History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


Why? US wants to remain a global hegemony, EU as a superstate would threaten that and Germany is the major driving factor in this unification?

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


Yes you are enemies, America see's Germany as an integral part of potentially unified Europe, US does not want EU to happen any more than it already had.


Thats politics mate, you together with Russia are two prime targets for US foreign policy, of course at the same time US wants to live well with you untill its able to kick you down because of you being the most influential state in Western Europe.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

Rubbish, violence breeds great movies and computer games.

News / FRENCH SNUB POLISH WAR EFFORT [50]


I never said he's smart or did anything good or great, its just the way he's able to cynically achieve profit thats awesome.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


There's a reason he got moved to France though, by 43 Germans tankers in the East were dying like gerbils in a meat grinder, high command realized that if they leave Wittman in the East he's going to be dead within weeks thats why they transferred him to a place where enemy tanks were jokes on wheels.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]



Like beside how many oceans Ukraine lies :D


If Germans didnt try at Kursk Russians would (as they did) have three new armies, nineteen armored and cavalry/mechanized brigades created and would have swarmed Germans like they did anyway, Kursk was the last attempt to take over the initiative and it had a chance of success, marginal but it did.


Kursk shows the superiority of your crews, Russians at the time no longer had dedicated tankers, you still had plenty of surviving veterans.


Correct, but in regards to Wittman most of his success comes from driving a tiger, before he was driving a Stug and his achievements were not nearly as impressive.

News / FRENCH SNUB POLISH WAR EFFORT [50]


He's my freakin' political idol. Also he's a cvnt but thats beside the point

News / The Emperor is naked. Lech Walesa, fool or hero ? [34]


What doubt? He was leading "Solidarność" in times when he could well get a bullet for that, thats pretty brave by any account and anyone who undermines THAT is either an idiot or communist supporter, there should not even be a discussion about this particular fact.


Thats because apart from being pretty heroic in his time Wałęsa is also an idiot, people cant seem to be able to grasp a concept of an heroic idiot though :)


There is no controversy about his role in the past and i'd appreciate if you'd stop that communist ********, Wałęsas role as a face, symbol and a rallying banner in difficult times is indisputable, what people do bring out is that he was also a two faced prick in private life which i'm willing to believe, he's still a hero though, a stupid little man who by fate or accident found himself in the right time at the right place but he did.


I find your entire post odd stupid and out of place, are you some sort of hardline commie? There is no question about Wałęsas role during "S" movements and he's still a hero, the point is whether apart from being a hero for Poland he's privately a decent man which i very much doubt he is.

But given that most Irish, English and Scottish heroes were also murdering cvnts, thieves, pirates or tyrants i dont see a problem and neither should you, a national hero is not necceserily a good human being.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


Always! :)


You're Solomons brother arent you? I've got a feeling he's bringing in family recently.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Garand#Descendants

Like i said its obvious there was a German influence because AK-47 uses a banana clip and is shaped differently but thats that so its deffinitely not a German project.


Erm call me esoteric but Gerries started developing those after trips to Tybet, India and other weird places, who knows what did they find, anyway i dont undermine awesomeness of the Nazi science but AK-47 has as much to do with German projects as Americans with geographical awareness of anything over 100 miles from where they live.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


And here i was thinking only us Poles get a random Kaczyński urge :)) Germans were leading in rocketry and among the leaders in jet designs, but the specific case of AK-47 is technically based on M-1 and for that alone it cannot be a "German design".

Also this was not because German scientists were briliant but because funds allocation, Germany was not democratic, if Hitler said project X gets Y money it did, thats why your scientists went so far in fields of avionics and allies grabbed men and plans because it was cheaper to aquire something that Fuhrer already paid for :) As for Ak-47?

A Russian design technically based on American design built with German assistance, that would be correct.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


Everyone did it, including Americans but that still doesnt mean its a German design, in fact given superiority of many Russian designs its clear that he was not a neccesary requirement and his help was just this, help.


There's none, they look similar and thats about it, the internal mechanisms are influenced by M-1 both rifle and carbine, the influence may have come with the banana clip (most Russian mgs used a drum till then) and the overall shape but thats still not a German design.


He did, he said there's M-1 in there and upon dissasembling an AK and M-1 there are huge similarities though one is a semi-automatic rifle/carbine and the other a fully automatic rifle, and he said that he got help because he got help thats all there is to it, do you think Leopard 2A4 was developed by Germans only? That Polish jaw dropping radiological equipment was developed by us only? It doesnt work like that for more than 70 years now.


Panther was heavily based on T-34 (though not a direct copy) and was a basis for Standardpanzer (which never got developed) King Tiger was an independet project for a superheavy tank.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]

No i'm just saying that calling AK a German design is rubbish, based on that you could call quite a few German designs "Polish" since Polish engineers helped in designing MP-4, Wiberlwind, PaK 43, these kinds of projects always have multiple brains working on them but most job is done by the project lead, also given that Russians had briliant designs by themselves i doubt Kalashnikov would need Shmeisser for anything major as you seem to imply.


Shite tank, it broke down half of the time and was so heavy it got stuck in every second pond, Germans forfeited one of the principles of tank design with this one - mobility, Tiger-1 was much much better.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


No, in 1939 virtually all German units were professionally trained, exceptionally well led and well equipped, in addition to that Germany perfected British theories and was able to use the weapons it had much more effectively.

Poland had less modern weapons, fewer good commanders, medium and low ranking officers and common soldiers were equal or superior to their German counterparts but spirit and skill is not enough when your enemy is of equal valor and has more and superior equipment and better leadership.

Poland proved that it could make diamonds where others saw shite with its 7TP, 10TP, UR AT gun, 37mm AT cannon, machineguns and so on but Polish army was still inferior on every field safe personnel and even there Polish high command was levels below their German counterparts.


Thats actually correct, Americans requested we dont use our most advanced radio devices.


Given Kalasznikovs aptitude i doubt Schmeisser had more to do it than rudimentary help, if anything its Americans who are bound to have helped (even though they get no mention) since AK-47 borrows heavily from M1-Garand.


The Tiger was superior to T-34, at Kursk Germans lost most of their tanks to mines, artillery and their heaviest tanks either broke down or got rammed by T-34s.

News / The Emperor is naked. Lech Walesa, fool or hero ? [34]


Both, he's a very simple man who once rose to shoulder a great challenge so he's definitely a hero but he's personally nothing more than a simple electrician who never really grasped the greater affairs of the world.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


Thats problematic at best, Wehrmacht was in 1939 not up front with its casualities, there's instances of battle where SS units lost several hundred members, in the battle of Wizna Guderian lost thousands of dead and it was never admitted exactly how many German troops died since this victory was so humiliating.

Its entirely possible that fatalities were closer to 50 thousand maybe even more.

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Thats wikipedia for you, the tank was very good for its time and ceirtanly superior to PZ I and PZ II it was in virtually all respect the equivalent of the German Pz 38


You mean without the Russian army? No but conquering Poland would likely stretch well into 1940 rather than last 30 something days.


The German soldier was the best at the time, that is to say not becuase he was German but because Germans were the first to take professional military training seriously.


You owe that excersize fully and completely to Russia, without its 800k soldiers you'd be stuck under Warsaw for another four or five months, even your generals confirmed it in the diaries.

News / Poland and Germany - Germany unhappy with the present border with Poland? [88]


Jesus no, hate those dwarves.


I voted for PO, i'd vote for a herpies ridden hooker if it made those little twats lose, it doesnt change the fact that PO should speak out on the international forum, perhaps not even point blank opposition but to make the German statement a milder sounding one.

News / Poland and Germany - Germany unhappy with the present border with Poland? [88]


I'm in two minds over this, from one side i hope thats just electoral ********* but knowing full well how must Germans are about the matter i dont think so.

From one side we have PiS who are probably right in every point they make but they make those points like raving morons, from the other side we have PO which reacted in a severely inadequate way.

Expulsions of Germans post WW2 need to be supported as morally sound consequence of a genocidal war, how can we in clear coscience say that these repercussions were immoral, Germans suffered a consequence of their own actions rewarding their descendants with a moral thumb up in the face of all that happened between 1939 and 45 is wrong.


Oh we are very unhappy but its not our closet policy to one day recover it.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


And you still sing the old song, i've changed my tone specifically after CDU issued statements about "more German language, international condemnation of expelees" i dont mind ambition, the problem with Prussia's twisted child is that you guys dont know when to stop untill you slam into a brick wall so i dont enjoy these kinds of statements.

If anyone but Germany made them that'd be just rubbish talk but with you they're historically a vent for real ambitions that start in Berlin and end in Dresden dragging everyone around down along the way.


Sadly my suggestions about executing our players and their families fell on deaf ears.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


Of course, undertaking realistic tasks with achievable goals, in this case it was Teutonic Knights down to a man so Prussia would never happen and letting Turks roll through Germany to have a more peacefull less hostile neighbour.

Of course our ancestors need to be forgiven they did not have the luxury of hindsight.


At multiple times in history Poland was poised to annihilate what would later become Prussia through action or inaction, practical consequences would lead to unification under much more peacefull Austria or conquest by Turkey which had significant respect for Poland, one way or the other both world wars would never happen and a significant threat to European peace and stability would never be there.

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I've no other dream than that we could just live in peace, however i do not believe Germany is capable of long term peacefull existence, as such deconstruction of your state was a logical move, sadly constrained by realities of the time it didnt happen.


BB if we were pragmatic you'd be conquered by Turkey or not here at all since Teutonic Order would have gotten wiped out to a man, Germany exists because Poland failed to be pragmatic.

History / Western Europe and America vs Russia WWII - chances of Poland being saved [494]


However Morgenthau plan was far more justified, you cant deny Germany has been a problem for Europe for the last 100 years, in fact you're still a sticky business.

Morgenthaus plan would permanently eliminate Germany as a political or military presence without resorting to genocide, while i'm all for diplomatic solutions i believe that Europe without Germany would be much more stable than Europe with Germany.

What was left of your economy could have been handed over to neighbouring states and you'd be growing crops and living out your lives in peace whether you liked it or not, today we might get an European leader like France or UK with much more responsible approach, there would be no rift between East and West, much greater solidarity in regards to policies towards Russia and of course all the capital that US poured into such an unstable state as yours could be use in central and eastern Europe.

Morgenthaus plan had so many advantages its a shame it never happened.

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Destroying or taking over your industry and reshaping your country into an agrarian state with nothing but a police force, with an international commitee managing your international policies for you, if there was ever a country that needed to be babysitted with a gun to its forehead it was a pre-war Germany (and i'm not sure you improved at all).

History / Poland: dont blame us its the Germans. [174]


Truth.


A result of neighbouring a nation with tendencies that often border on psycopathic, you cant deny your people are the source of two largest conflicts, the largest genocide in living history and centuries of abuse towards each other and their neighbours, you have been unable to establish a peacefull society for longer than a 100 years and most major conflicts in the region start with Germany.

While i remain impressed with a lot of things about Germany you're Europes great problem child and i'm not sure if we wouldnt be safer if you did not just dissapear post WW2.


If not for the war You caused, for the destruction You caused and for the losses You caused we'd have a full blown western style economy for generations, what we got from Germany is pocket money when compared with how much You have cost us.


Oh you did quite a lot of things no one before you did, death industry, plans to genocide entire races, and 60 years later arrogant attempts to rewrite all that into a milder form so you dont seem quite the monsters you were, i've deluded myself untill very recently that Germany changed somehow from this dysfunctional psychopathic creature it became in late 19th, but you're the same, CDUs declaration made it pretty clear you're still your little old chaunivistic twisted self.


You were this close to getting your nation sterilized or changed into a bunch of shepherds and you're glad? The only thing that saved you from obliteration was Stalins little feud with the West.


You mean a chauvinistic state filled with descendants of murderers who insolently try to shift blame onto the descendants of their victims and rewrite history? Or the fact that you're going to lose 1/3 of your nation within some 50 years, the fact that you're forewer bonded with Nazism and Hitler in the eyes of the world and every single achievement you made is forever overshadowed by WW2? You're a damn success BB!


We've been winning most battles for over 7 centuries, our problem is that we let the little medieval nazi aka teutons survive and turn into Prussia when we should have wiped them out post haste and let Turks take you over, Germany doesnt exist because its super, its where it is because we stupidly allowed it.

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The Germans would still start WW2 on account of not being able to cope with failiure, the size of the failiure didnt matter as much as the fact that it happened.

What shoud have happened was Germany being transformed into an agrarian state with much of the teritory partitioned between Poland, France and other neighbouring states.


Of course it could simply be because he was an abusive bastard who always given the slightest reason humiliated people?


Sean stop being such a fvcking apologetic, Germans CAUSED the Versaiiles to happen.

It only shows how deeply dysfunctional Germans are at a core level as both human beings and a society, first they start a conflict out of no other reason then overblown ambition, they get smacked down and concessions are forced for all the pain and suffering they caused and then Germans suddenly feel hurt over mistakes that are purely their responsibility.

Germany is to blame for WW1.
Germany is to blaim for Versailles.
Germany is to blame for WW2.
Germany is to blame for expelles post WW2.

Germany has no right to be angry or dissatisfied, it started all these conflicts on a pure whim, there was a thousand other ways to resolve the conflicts, many of these were artificially created by Germany itself, there is no "but we need to understand Germans were angry" a murderer doesnt get to be angry over his jailtime.

Germany takes 200% responsibility for all of these, there is no excuse and no reason other than Germany being deeply dysfunctional as a state, society and nation.

History / Territories of eastern Germany should rightfully belong to Poland? [161]


Jesus Christ almighty yet crucified like a total wuss savior of humanity, keep Turkey the HELL away from EU!

History / "Shafting the Poles" [44]


Ah speeches, speeches are good, sometimes they're even true!

History / "Shafting the Poles" [44]


Please dont make me recall college years i'm puking dates to this day (although i have no idea what happened in Stirling last monday? I'm guessing its not about Mel Gibson owning some British?).

Bringing up Afghanistan is completely misguided though, we'd still be there as part of multinational alliance, everyone who is there is there due to US leverage rather than NATO mandate, US is working hard to destabilise Pakistan and it needs credibility which means breaning in Europe.

History / "Shafting the Poles" [44]


The purpose of NATO was to counter the Warsaw Pact.


Make it 10, its not a realistic prospect, its basically certain, either it will fall apart or become so low key that it'd amount to the same thing.


No hyphotesis here, NATO is a political entity thats purpose was to be a counter to Soviet Union, right now its simply a club of convenience.