News / Polish nursery rhyme book says Germans smell and gipsies sell their children... [28]

I concur Germans smell of wee and i bought two gypsy kids just yesterday, UK has issues with political correctness, i had toy soldier Germans and they were the bad guys when i played now i can never have a German friend, toy soldiers fvcked me up for life!

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]


Its incredible to see the level of indoctrination, Israel makes US of A and by extention all of its citizens its bytches and you seem perfectly fine with it, even though it touches you personally as a taxpayer.

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]

And what if it was not? They already spy on you.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


As for £emko population it was a tragic mistake and a crime of the communist regime, as for Ukrainian population you guys should be glad there was Russia to protect you, without Russia you would be facing a retaliatory invasion as soon as Berlin fell.


As for UPA i wouldnt cry if communist goverment executed all of these people, as for imprisoning innocent civilians thats always wrong, however lets not forget the crimes that Ukrainian Insurgent Army commited on Polish civilians (because you were completely unable to fight against our Home Army).

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


What did i deny? I've stated that Gdańsk was built and for most of its history inhabited by Poles and provided sources, the only one opposing those was Freebird who's argumentation was "COMMUNISTROTFLLMAO".

Then you said Poles did nothing with Gdańsk, i provided you with a few examples of Polish architecture including Gdańsk town hall.

Then you said Gdańsk got rich because of being a member of Hanza, i rebuked that Gdańsk got rich because of trading Polish goods which it did on account of being the major harbor on the coast of Poland.

As you can see the issue here is not denying any German achievements but you unwilling to accept Polish ones :)


Poland could have destroy Meklemburgia or Prussia at a certain period yes, whats so strange about it? As for wars Poland won several wars, so did Germany, comparison of power is meaningless since by the time Germany rose to power Poland was well in decline.


Of course! What shall we start with? How about historical sites though i'd be carefull if i were you, the town hall is by far not the only one.


Not really no, you're just used to Poland not speaking with its own voice and have a problem with a more assertive neighbour, people like Kaczyńscy are treated as idiots here which is why they lost the elections.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


You're again mistaking points i'm making for chauvinism, i never denied Germans a great deal of achievements what i do oppose is marginalization of considerable Polish cultural and civilizational achievements, the great development of regions and cities, what you view as rewriting history for us is asserting our position in the face of not always true German outlook on history.

The problem with German-Polish relations is that you were so keen on proving we're small in all regards you believed it yourself, we're definitely not as big as we sell ourselves to be but much bigger than German perception gives us credit for.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


Danzing got rich because it was trading Polish grain, Polish leather, Polish cattle, Polish...everything?


Of course there's plenty of beatifull buildings by Germans, you added greatly to the city but you didnt make it what it was or what it is, i'm opposing selling it as a German achievement thats all.




Polish built.

buczkowski.net.pl/obrazy/ratusz_01.jpg
Gdańsk town hall, guess what? Polish built (though there were also architects from Netherlands contributing there but hopefully that doesnt make it from Holland for you:)

Sorry BB but since Poland is no longer a communist country and our voice is going to be heard louder and louder you're going to have to come to grips with a lot of uncomfortable things in time, like Poland having its golden age and leaving traces of it, like many of "your" lands being disputable and many of what was sold as your achievements being in fact ours.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


By the time Teutons conquered Gdańsk it was the richest harbor on the Baltic, during the time of Commonwealth it grew to a point where it became so rich it rebelled, so yeah i'd say most of Gdańsk development was our job, Germans came and took over an already developed city.

But heyyyy we're still holding on to "Germany built everything and is uber" theory of yours right?:)


Riiiiiight, for the past 300 years? Or waiit do you mean "German" Kopernik who's father wad Polish, who fought Germans for the Polish king and who's works are influenced by his stay in Krakóws university?:))))

We've built Gdańsk, we've developed it, you came relatively late and took it over, selling Gdańsk as a German success is a blatant chauvinistic lie.


Thats because the commonwealth used latin on its coins which you would know if you knew anything about Polish history and wasnt an opinionated moron, Polish coins were inscribed in Latin, you just learned something you little redneck.

POLISH szeląg with fron Gdańsk in 1457, with Polish kings coat of arms and "Casimir Rex Polonus" Casimir king of Poland.

Anything else you want to learn or do you prefer to stay in your little barn and continue to spam idiocy?


Again you're a moron, i'm not even going to bother quiting wikipedia since you ignore the sources, Tuetonic Knights conquer the city in 14th century, that means that the city was purely Polish for more then 450 years, it then retains a Polish majority well into 16th century, the primary language of upper classes of Danzing was latin since if you knew anything about history rather than humiliate yourself time and again you'd know Polish upper classes spoke latin, Polish documents and coins were in Latin and so on.

So yes there's Polish coins, Polish books, Polish coats of arms and i can keep posting them if only you wouldnt ignore all those on account of being so merry stupid, i can live with BB being chauvinist, no one is perfect but idiocy just pisses me off.

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]


Personally i'm not an American, i like and admire USA but i dont care that much, now if i was an American i'd demand that my country stops all support of Israel because Israel never contributed anything to my country and costs us a lot.


I dont really care and you shouldnt either, mark you without US Israel might be forced to a lot more peacefull outlook and who knows maybe your lack of support would actully bring peace.

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]


I'm going to be cynical here, what do you as a country lose if Israel is doomed?


So you believe that US should support all unstable countries out of the goodness of its heart?

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]


What exactly are Israels contributions to US economy?


They're american jews not citizens of israel so where's the connection?


Why would they need to lobby the goverment if the alliance was beneficial for the US?


9/11.

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]

How many Israelis pay taxes in US? A hundred thousand? I doubt even half of that, yet you send 2 bilion dollars annualy, in other words you're paying for an alliance which brings no benefits whatsoever yet costs you money and international flak for supporting a controversial state.

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]


What is this reason? What kind of support has Israel ever offered you? How did America benefited from the alliance?


They took the lands of the locals based on the book they wrote and you say history is on their side? Nevermind that they're a nation of several milion universally hated by hundreds of milions of Arabs around them and Arabs who slowly go nuclear and breed like rabbits while Israels Jewish population shrinks and they're not threatened?

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]

To finally solve the Gdańsk issue and maybe it will make freebird shut the fuk up.

trojmiasto.pl/Historia-Gdanska-o9351.html

Excerpts for our non-Polish speakers "In approximately 975 A.D from the initiative of Mieszko I a city with a harbor was built on the river Motlava, its name written down in "The life of Saint Wojciech" was Gyddanyz".

Thats the first account of the city being there.

"Archeologia Polski Wczesnośredniowiecznej" by Andrzej Buko with pictures and sites (also by German teams freebird so up your ass) proving conclusively that Gdańsk is inhabited almost exlusively by Poles for more than four centuries.

Even more amusing is the fact that the oldest houses predating the establishment of Gdańsk are also from the Polish tribe of "Polanie" which would indicate that the region was inhabited by Poles as early as 8th century, it would also explain how it was able for a city to pop up in what was then hostile teritory.

History / "Our Forgotten Allies" - Polish-American relations. [52]


Amusing thing is Arabs initially didnt want to slaughter them, expulsion is the word here also no without your help they wouldnt be slaughtered since they're devoting 1/3 of their considerable GDP to develop and upkeep their military, they also steal technologies from you :))))

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


Oh the teritory at the time was in reality Prussian, the city of Gdańsk however was Polish, a Polish city built in Prussian teritory, as to how it was possible? Prusowie were tribals, there was no united front against the Polish expansion, Poland built cities and settled entire regions but the majority of the place was definitely Prussian.


If you're heading for Prussian built or inhabited city then no, there's conclusive evidence that Mieszko built it by both the contemporaries saying so and by digging out earth-wood walls and other items/bits of architecture.

By that time German tribes built everything starting with a small stone keep surrounded by a pallisade, Prusowie just made woodworks and stockades and Poles built their cities with a specific design of earth-wood "wał" wall.



Thats one example, the one at Gdańsk was a different type but also at the time exclusively Polish, Prussian "wały" were basically artificial hills with a stockade on top, also there's items that belonged to Polanie (the main Polish tribe at the time) so there's no chance the locals had anything to do with the harbors construction and were unlikely to inhabit the city proper.

Oh also Sean Gdańsk was the first urban project in the region, there were undoubtedly villages all over the place but its the first city, i'll dig you up the detailed archeologicall story its in polish but you shouldnt have any trouble:)

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]

Seanus
Ah no they were not but what does it matter for Gdańsk question? Prusowie were tribals, Poland had strongholds all over the place and interacted with them on a peacefull foot (when not crusading against them) the lands were interlocking and its not like there was a state of total constant war between the two.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


Erm i scrolled back and couldnt find the question so i assumed you were referring to the Prusowie, what was the question then?

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]


Like when we had this huge state and you were a bunch of little countries?:) This is exactly wht Poland dislikes Germany, you got where you are through luck and forgot that in the past you were a dwarf, want me to give you a map of the Commonwealth in XV century? We had the means to squash Germany like a bug buuut instead we went to Vienna :))

Oh wait we butchered the flower of your knighthood for about 100 years in every war with the Teutons because we were lucky, that must be it :)))))

Chauvinism wont get you far mr 61 million people and failing economy, our economy is not failing, in fact all predictions are good for us, bad for you, it would be good if you'd come to grips with your oversized balls since soon enough you might mean quite a bit less than Poland :))))

News / The Polish-Hungarian friendship is as well as poisoned [45]

No one gives a crap, not even Hungarians (asked a few friends) no one even knows about it so who the frack are you, you're sure as hell not Hungarian.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]

Absolutely, Pomerania was conquered by Polish units and relinquished to 7 Teutonic Knights who occupied Vogelsang, so Poles did break the Prussians at 1230, what happened after was merry German genocide of peoples who's military might was being systematically broken by Poles for about a century.

Pomeranian lands were nominally Polish, in reality Prussian and were given to Teutonic Order as vasaldom, then of course Teutons annexed the lands so we have an illegal German action on lands that pro jure belonged to Poles.

As far as Danzing is concerned its still a Polish city untill the Teutons commit first genocide and achieve political authority there.

On another interesting note, Poles didnt conquer Prussia because they were unwilling to commit genocide.

Leszek Biały was famous for refusing to decimate civilian population of the conquered region (which resulted in his enemies having the manpower to eventually evict him) Teutonic knights achieved success because of their merry embrace of genocide which is food for thought, whether Germans during WW2 murdered because of the influence of the period or whether there's some genetically conditioned element in Germans as such.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


How can you love history if you dont know it?:) You're claiming that Germans have rights to historically Polish or Czech regions?:)))))))

History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]


NATO.


And why would Germany out of the blue attack Poland?


Yes i'm sure your mighty economy ... oh wait.


We have no interests on the Balkans, none whatsoever.


How? To achieve power through alliance you have to ally yourself with a nation thats either large and strong or has a potential to become such, Serbia is neither large, nor strong and it doent have potential to become so either.]


Yes Crow most of us including me did support Serbia on the Kosovo issue but we're not that much into all the post Yugoslav mess to lose any sleep over it all.

History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]

I didnt say it in the context that Russians are worse in some general way but you have to admit what makes you country tick is mind boggingly alien to westerners.

History / Poland before WWII or Poland now what would you choose? [390]


Nothing you wrote is obvious, they're just your uninformed opinions.

Love / Polish girls attitude - what should I know about the behaviour of Polish girls? [30]


Yes he was, except he wasnt at all :)))

Love / First date with this Polish girl! Some advice required on what to say and what to do. [35]


You would be amazed.


Only ever use this phrase adressing fat fugly girls who have nothing going for them, beatifull eyes or a pretty smile because otherwise you're a goddamn loch ness monster .

Love / First date with this Polish girl! Some advice required on what to say and what to do. [35]


Buy her some cheap vodka and a jar of pickled cucumbers.


Szczebrzeszyn szczerzy szczęke, Polish language is easy you'll do just fine.

History / Russia: Poland responsible for WW II [300]


Boring like hell but guess i can appreciate it.


The way Western Europe does business with Russia you'd think it is.