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celinski   
28 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

Julie,

My family were also affected in WW1. I find my strength in my the family I lost, or never got to know as they were victims of crimes as Poland was attacked from all sides.

Yet in the west this history needs to be written in truth. I think with people like yourself bringing forth history, we shall see in the near future not just a transformation of Russia but a growth.

I am sure your Babka and other loved ones smile down on the family represenitive you have become. While they were silenced, you speak on their behalf.
celinski   
25 Apr 2008
News / Peres: Poland one of Israel's greatest EU allies [30]

you have different perspective and point of view.

This IMO comes from life experiances, family history and lifes lessons.

Very nice poem.

Its a pity that this side of Poland doesn't get the gratitude that it more than deserves.

Well said, Thank you.
celinski   
24 Apr 2008
News / Peres: Poland one of Israel's greatest EU allies [30]

only, all crucifixes and crosses will have to be removed from sight

I don't feel Poland should hide a thing. As long as they don't feel they can change or should I say become another country within Poland. Poland belongs to Polish and religion is not a state within itself.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
Life / What do Polish people think of burning the national flags? [58]

The rockets red glare gave proof in the night that our flag was still there. Don't burn the flag. What about the one presented to a loved one and treasured forever after a loved one dies. No, I aggree with donkey, there are better ways.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
News / What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? [226]

segment of immigrant society in america

I sure hope so. I don't see Polish people as outspoken. In fact they are rather quiet. I don't like to sterotype so I'll say my family from Poland are rather quiet. They don't complain much, in fact with all my father lived through he opted to not speak about his past. Even when questioned, his take was what good would it do to talk about it. My take is it sets history in truth.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
News / What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? [226]

so youre saying that these others are unable to do this,

No, I think anyone can be as happy as they choose to be. I think in the USA we put people at a disadvantage and keep them down by giving to much. I am happy when I do it on my own and yet our system tells to many people they can't and so they are scared to try. Or by trying they risk losing what they have for. It's like with our children, give them everything for free and they don't appreciate. Let them work for it and it's gold.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
News / What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? [226]

why are you content with your lot while others feel so bitter?

I measure my life in the family, friends and knowing at the end of each day I did something to improve my standard of living.

but to fall into that line of thinking is truly madness.

I take it you are voting for Obama? What do you feel was the purpose of the statements made by him?

I'm sorry if it offends you, have you seen the house being built for Obama's pastor? Comments made by Obama did nothing to satify me that he does not hold the same belief system. In fact,statements he made in defense of the church were "understanding" what "Blacks in America" feel, yet others do not hold this right?
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
News / What do Polish friends think of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton? [226]

an alternate interpretation is that of a section of society which has failed to integrate and suceed, despite being in america for generations, hard working, educated and white

Youe welcome, I did quite well as did the rest of my family. We work for what we have and I love the USA.

Failing to integrate has nothing to do with it. When my family came to the US they did not start a Polish speaking channel and you had to prove you had a job and a home. It's not the same as today. Today we give them cars, homes, food time to establish themself. Many live here and don't even speak English.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

were you directly effected by what the russians did??

Yes I was, does it show?

that it puts russia in a bad light???

To not say sorry puts them in a bad light.

so what your really saying is that enough people around the world cared therefore the germans had to act.

No, What I am saying is because of the power "Stalin" was given, the nation has been lied to. Now that Poland is free and the truth is out, the people are asking for Russia to do what Germany has done all along. Take responsability, accountability, tell the victims you are sorry. Why do so many feel they must baby and walk on egg shells for Russia, I really don't understand?

anit-russian than concern for your countries losses.

IMO this would be the best move Russia could make. I know Russian's in the USA and they aggree. To continue to live this lie makes them look foolish. This is not anti anything in fact with the truth comes a trusting relationship where Poland and Russia can grow closer vs. the past keeping them apart and Poland unable to trust their neighbor.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

so why would you want one of them??

It's the right thing to do.

that is the decision taken by the Germans themselves

I feel this was not made by the German's but society made them take responsability, Soviet was the main inforcer of this as they were placing all the blame on Germany.

strong views on leaving the past in the past

I look at this as healing. Most Polish do not trust Russian's and I feel it is due to not telling the truth and taking responsability. In order to renew a proper place in the nation IMO Russia must show they can be trusted.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

an apology from people who had nothing to do with those events and who don't really care to be honest.

Todays Germans had nothing to do with what took place in ww2 yet they are still saying sorry and writing checks. This was not a small war crime this is over a million killed and a country taken over for fifty years and silenced by the ones that were responsable.

i'm not questioning if it happened or not

Thank you for not questioning but there are many that deny and change history.
celinski   
22 Apr 2008
News / Why does Poland love the US? [144]

Poland wants U.S. to be 3rd leg of its security plan

iht.com/articles/ 2008/04/21/europe/poland.php

Neither NATO nor the European Union can provide sufficient security
to calm Poland's fears, particularly with Russia now resurgent to
its east, and so the government in Warsaw wants the United States to
base part of its planned antimissile system here to provide an
American guarantee of safety, according to Poland's defense minister.

iht.com/articles/2008/04/21/europe/poland.php
celinski   
21 Apr 2008
Real Estate / Advice regarding inheritance of Polish property. [4]

You say your Mom left Poland in 1960's do you know why? If she left due to being displaced this would not take her Polish citizenship. You say she was born in Poland and therefore you as her child are entilted to being Polish citizen also. It all really depends on why she left Poland. If you want email me your information and I may be able to give you proper links and forms.
celinski   
19 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

Poland was unable to speak of the crimes until 1989. Deadline is Dec. 2008. People are now speaking out and writing congress.

if enough people cared then something would already have been done

Here is a very good book on why so many may seen not to care. It is how this "Soviet Genocide" had been treated.

BLANK PAGES

Soviet Genocide against the Polish People

pyrford.com/pp51.html

if enough people cared

Now they are starting to care.

MEPs call for EU stance on communist crimes

By Lucia Kubosova
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Several members of the European Parliament have called on the EU to formally recognise crimes committed by Stalinist regimes and compensation for its victims on the same terms as victims of the Nazis.

euobserver.com/9/26021
celinski   
19 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

The people that lost their homeland care, I care. Germany is still writing check as is Poland. This to me is crazy, Poland writing checks to Poland's people for Russian's actions. Yes there are many alive in fact war criminals are being tried today.
celinski   
19 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

if we went over every single war crime committed by whoever all around the world,

I would like to suggest Russia step forward and take
responsibility for their actions on Polands People. Reguardless of the time frame the nation must see when crimes are commited the victim's are compensated by the ones that are responsable. Lets not let Poland (the real victims)pay for the sin's of Russia.

A perfect crime is one where the criminal is unknown, in this case we know who did it and yet Russia plays the innocent card. It is only when we can be honest about the actions and Russia takes responsability that trust between Russia and a nation can grow.

Why has Russia not taken responsability? This is simple, no one has told them they must. They claim to be the largest victim due to number of deaths yet many were killed by "Stalin" himself. They say "Communist Poland" /"Soviet run" compensated with "Germany" property. This stealing from one to pay another only added another

victim. "Stalin" takes eastern Poland and charges it to Germany.

Poland being free to speak out as to the crimes commited has really just started. "Katyn" is a true story and just has broken the ice for the whole story to come to light. History will show the world the full truth in time. I suggest Russian's be brought up to date on the standards. It may even change the way the world view them?
celinski   
19 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

If it was OK for Germany to pay, why would you say Russia should not. Or are you still thinking it was not blood on Stalin's hands and under his leadership that the revenge took place?

A Family Chronicle of Soviet and Nazi Terror

polandsholocaust.org
celinski   
18 Apr 2008
History / Should Russia pay compensation claims for the families "Stalin" removed? [27]

Poland is stuck with the bill for the compensation to the families that lived in "Eastern Poland". This was decided by "communist" Poland in 1945. In other words, "Stalin". Stalin also compensated some families for this property by taking the property from "Western Germany". For "Soviets" this was a win-win as they took the eastern property. So now we have Poland being abused once more. To try putting a guilt trip on the Polish that claim compensation is not fair as this is saying it's ok to leave them as victims once more. If "Russia" took responsability for this it would also show a nation that they want a strong, trusting relationship with Poland. What do you think?
celinski   
10 Apr 2008
News / EU a beacon of light for the World to follow [85]

Now thats a horse of a different color.

Poland plays veto card in NATO row

russiatoday.ru/news/23295

Poland is threatening not to lift its veto on the EU-Russia
partnership talks until Georgia and Ukraine are put on a clear path
to joining NATO. President Lech Kaczynski also says he'll press
Ukraine and Georgia's case with Germany and France.