History / "GANGING UP" ON POLAND? [99]

Thats actually a coincidence, all of the mentioned sides had different reasons for their assaults Germans trying to deal with their guilt by attempting to "share" blame with Poles, Jews venting their anger at Poland not giving them money and Russians just being Russian.

History / Gdansk and it's history with Poland [116]

Well Germans did build a nice catedral you got to give them credit where its due but building a big church and living in a city for 300~ years when its over 1000 years old stil doesnt give one historical claims to it.

History / Gdansk and it's history with Poland [116]


I didnt post clearly enough, my fault, i was referring to Gdańsk as far as accuracy in regards to pre-war architecture.

I completely agree that Warsaw was rebuilt only in places and even then shoddy, its a fugly city and thanks to our esteemed German neighbours what was once classified as the second or third most beatifull city in Europe is now bloody fugly.


Sjam its not your first day here, not your first post here either, we both know you posted knowing squat about the subject and being fully convinced there's not a Polish site in the city.


Well you got your particular examples, there's loads more too, i can even get you before and after photos, we did as good a job rebuilding as we did building, i completely agree about Warsaw though.

History / Gdansk and it's history with Poland [116]


Warsaw was not rebuilt fully or even partially and this is why there and only there in whole of Poland architects were allowed liberty in rebuilding, every brick you see in rebuilt structures is as it was in the available blueprints, pictures and postcards, Gdańsk suffered no "reinterpretations".


Gdańsk is as it was before the war as far as rebuilt structures are concerned, Warsaw is another issue entirely and i wouldnt bring it to any discussion about architecture since it wasnt rebuilt as it was before the war, not even partially.


All major landmarks is your annswer, there is a significant number of houses both hanzeatic and Polish styles that have been constructed plain or with few decorations and the remainder has been painted over to match pre-war patterns but apart from that Gdańsk next to Kraków has one of the largest examples of Polish architecture, both rebuilt and wholy intact so implying that Gdańsk has barely any Polish architecture is rather silly.

History / Gdansk and it's history with Poland [116]


Then respond to what you've seen, Polish town hall built on orders of the Polish king, developed on the orders of several other Polish kings, the armoury, the priests house, the granaries but like i said and i stand by it, you're an anti-Polish bastard who will ignore anything that doesnt fit, you've asked for examples of Polish architecture i provided them and more so i can shut you up for good :))))





No reinventions, Polish renessaince and baroq in its full glory :)))) Of course you wouldnt respond to these examples since you were hellbent on claiming Poles never built anything in Gdańsk when in fact the majority of surviving architecture is Polish built, but hey always glad to make you look as stupid biased and prejudiced as you are :))))

Oh one of my favorites

Royal chapel.

And some more:

No Polish architecture indeed :)))

And since i enjoy making you look like an idiot, Polish "Kamienice" built by Shuter


Care to take back your statement now?:)))))

History / Gdansk and it's history with Poland [116]




I can keep going but its not like you or Harriet care, you're both anti-Polish kunts :)))

Gdańsk is absolutely full of classic Polish architecture, including its town hall, the problem with you rednecks is that you dont know it, never been there, never even cared to learn that Gdańsk was built up by Polish kings, that until late XVI century many Polish noble families built up the city:)))

News / Polish elites vs German elites [7]

Poland does not have a political elite.

History / Gdansk and it's history with Poland [116]

Built by Poles, nuff said.

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


To be specific there should be a Police officer assigned to those trips, young Jews or their bodyguards who are caught doing their stuff should be detained and charged, after we bust 10 or 20 in our charming prisons they'll clean up their act amazingly fast.


Can you speak Polish?

tur-info.pl/p/ak_id,21009,,izrael,ochroniarze,izraelscy_ochroniarze,krakow,kazimierz,mike_urbaniak,atak.html
szczelo.salon24.pl/39161,relacje-polsko-izraelskie-casus-mlodzi-izraelczycy-i-ich-ochro

There's a bazilion articles, the problem is not exactly new, in fact its not some jewish trips, its most jewish trips.


What kind of an arrogant stupid remark is that? My views are behind 1939 because i dont want Jews assaulting my people?

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


I'm sorry Yehudi i dont speak yiddysh so i wouldnt know where to look.

msostrowiecki.salon24.pl/57269,bedziemy-nienawidziec-ich-z-powodu-udzialu-w-zbrodniach

Tak brzmi, strona izraelska twierdzi że już wycofana, instrukcja dla młodzieży żydowskiej wyjeżdżającej do Polski, kraju rodzinnego dużej części obecnych obywateli Izraela.

"So states the (now withdraw according to the Israeli side) instruction for the Israeli Youths leaving for Poland, the homeland of the large part of todays Israels citizens."

Its been a pretty large issue in its time.


The horse has been flogged so many times i'm tired of it, its not an issue of teenagers but socially approved prejudice in Israel that results in our citizens and property being targeted by outlanders, its assaults, robberies, vandalism, handcuffing, blocking the streets etc.


So its ok for them to assault our citizens because grandpa got gassed by Germans? Are you on crack?


It needs to be stirred because if we wont talk about it they'll keep getting away with it.

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


Sean thats not "some" it was the unoficial stand of the Israeli authorities to teach their children that Poles were responsible for the Holocaust.

Untill 2007 a pamphlet was handed out to all trips bound to Poland "we will hate them for their part in the crimes".

Love / Polish girls are the funniest [26]

I enjoy laughing at my girl when she tries to speak too.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Its still pointless Sjam is here only to drop a "bomb" they wont pick up anything uncomfortable simply because discussion is not their goal.

Whatever definitions Bereza was a severe prison and nothing more, German or Russian concentration camps were in practice death camps so definition regardless applying the same definition is misleading (and i believe that Sjams intent).

History / Drang nach Osten. [79]


Does history affect future? Is that a rhetorical question?

History / Drang nach Osten. [79]


Really? Then what great cities have you built there? Poznań, Gdańsk, Szczecin all the major urban centres in the region have been built by Poles unless of course we include farming communities by the Germanic tribes as a claim virtually all civilized infrastructure we established?

The amusing bit about German premonitions about civilization is that we ddint kick out German tribes, we didnt take over the existing settlements, the places we mention are scratch built by Poles, we literally brought civilization and urbanisation to all lands we inhabit and you claim as yours (with the exlusion of Wrocław, that was the Czech domain).

The "German cities" you mention are all built by Poles and for the majority of their existence inhabited by Poles, but yeah i agree before we came and built cities, castles, roads and churches there were Germanic hunters-gatherers and some villages there, question is that does justify said eastern expansion if everything of note was built by us Poles.

History / Drang nach Osten. [79]

*Yawn* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EasternEurope750BC.png

And here we have Lusatians well before that :))) We can play with proto expansion maps all day, including early slavic settlements in and around modern day Berlin the hard fact is that we built 90% of cities there, the first chronicles in the region are written in latin by our people, the first stone buildings are chapels built by Poles, the first roads, harbors, villages etc etc, thats hard archeological evidence.

Besides its not our fault that you're dying out, your border towns are peachy with Polish inhabitants, regardless of stereotypes we do work hard, pay our taxes and thats in time when you have less and less of your own people to do that.

History / Drang nach Osten. [79]


Where here? In Europe? I daresay we arrived in Europe at the same time, in Gdańsk? We, the Poles built it, in Poznań? Also Polish built, Wrocław? Built by Czechs and taken over by Poles (so even here we were before you guys) so BB where exactly were you first?


Even here you put a blanket statement, Olsztyn i'm forced to agree was first built by Teutonic Knights but for example Szczecin was built by Slavs and first governed by Poles and specifically Mieszko I and his descendandts, even Bydgoszcz is first mentioned as a Polish city in 1238 and later occupied by TO so where were you "first?"

You could probably argue about TO but they arrived to an area typically inhabited by Poles and other nations for over 4 centuries so no you were not first, not in Pomerania, not in Wrocław and Poznań.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]

Quite a big one, for example Ukrainians in Bereza Kartuska were not worked to death. There's a huge difference between whats basically a very harsh prison and a concentration camp.

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


Well i'm Polish, we're discussing a problem where Polish citizens are being harmed by outlanders based on racial issue and out of the blue you invent the "ANTISEMITS!!!1" so of course you will be received as stupid as you sound.


Not really no, i'm just tired of people and in this thread it means you countering every wrong commited by Jews on Poles with this mythical "Polish anti-semitism" that i never seen.

Thats no argument at all, its just stupid bias or just stupidity on your part.


Right back at you :)))) You still didnt asnwer me what is the relation between Jewish youth demolishing property and assaulting our citizens and "Polish anti-semitism" most of these Jews never saw a Pole before in their lives.

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


Yes i do, its called turning the horse on an issue and is an underhanded way of avoiding the uncomfortable problems by twats who support the side causing said problems.

There is no relevant anti-semitism in Poland, there is a significant issue with anti-Polonism in Israel and i wouldnt care if Jews didnt decide to bring it to our homes.

"Jews beat up Polish people in the streets, why?"

"Poles are anti-semit!!!!!!!"

So um...fok you sir?

News / JEW YOUTH SHOULD CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN POLAND [420]


What kind of a bloody martian are you buddy? We're talking about Jews assaulting and mistreating our citizens in our own country for racially related reasons and you come up with anti-semitism?

News / Putin for Polish president? [69]


I for one would welcome our new Russian overlords, i'm even building a Gulag in my backyard.

First on order would be shooting reporters, then we could start working on creating an indoctrinated backwards society, the fun!

Putin is a man broken by his upbringing, having lived deep immersed in the system he's unable to step outside the soviet mindset so no i wouldnt like him here, he's just perfect for Russia though.

USA, Canada / Popular US Newspaper offends Poles. [22]


In case of Jews yes, to follow rules of Judaism is to be a Jew, to be a Jew is not to be a Pole, he can be a citizen of Poland with all priveliges and duties that entails but thats it.

News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [427]


So you're all for indiscriminate opening of the border to all minorities? What about muslims, blacks and jews causing problems now and historically? Just ignore it and invite us a whole new bunch of issues?

USA, Canada / Popular US Newspaper offends Poles. [22]


Michnik is a Jew not a Pole, a Polish citizen yes, a Pole? No.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]


It was there but it was only forming, there was no significant academic works in it, the Eneid you quote is the first such work and the revolutionary one, Poles for example wrote books in Polish for more than half a millenium by then.


Yes, lets compare Kiev and Warsaw:

Kiev skyline.
pictureninja.com/pages/ukraine/kiev-skyline.JPG
farm1.static.flickr.com/73/180923383_653f6740b5.jpg?v=0

Warsaw skyline.

eapoland.com/assets/images/warsaw-skyline.jpg
plfoto.com/zdjecia/679137.jpg

So yeah Kiev is a poor dump whether you like it or not.


We developed Lwów, our Polish architecture is the only saving grace of the city, the cities you controlled longer changed into dumps.


And look where its today? An underdeveloped fugly city bearing scars of communism.


I did, for a capital its nothing special. It only shows how much better off you were ruled by Poland :)))

News / Does Poland count in Europe or is it ignored? [427]


Why Asia? We got Ukrainians and Belarussians, people without their own cultural heritage who are easy to assimilate.


This is why you must stop now and go visit London, inviting colored minorities who will not assimilate is NOT an answer, we have **** poor neighbours with similar mentality and very little heritage and you want to invite minorities that will create ethnical and cultural problems, why not open up to Belarus and Ukraine, their kids will be 100% Polish.


Look what it cost us, Jews, Germans, Ukrainians, all hostile to the Polish state, i'm all for immigrants but we need to be picky about who to let in, no Jews, no Africa or Asia and definitely no Muslims, learning from experience is a must.


Sorry buddy thats not tolerance, thats because Polish girls from low income regions behave like wh0res on account of seeing marriage with a foreigner as a means of social advance.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]


Nope Sasha is right, though not technicaly Russians all Eastern Slavs have been known as Rusyns, there was no separate group of Belarussians, Ukrainians or Russians, as for Ukrainians your current language operates for less than 200 years, you do not posess the original Ruthenian language.


Buddy while i have no great love for Russia Moscow is swarming with skyscrapers while Kiev is to put it politely a poverty stricken hole, Russias history while inhumane and cruel is filled with great conquests and epic endavours and what conquests or achievements Ukraine has?

Furthermore you exist because of Russia, without Stalins intervention Poland would take over its former lands as soon as WW2 ended and you could do squat about it all, you have always been someone's province and nothing more.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]


Ruthenians were genetically different people, they used a completely different language and the only similarity in their culture was the orthodox religon, Ukrainians have nothing in common with old Rus.

Sorry buddy i know you guys are searching for your identity but making up history to fit your view aint gonna cut it.


These people had different language, different customs, its like claiming that Germans and the French are one nation since they used to be a country once.

History / World War II - a tragic story for Poland and the World [489]


No it does not, we could probably draw a link between Kievan Rus and modern Ukraine but thats a very general link since at that time there was no distinction between Russian and Ruthenian, it was all Ruthenian culture, for several centuries then Ukraine remains a province of the Commonwealth, retains no national or state institutions, no military, no nothing.

Cossacks were a multinational military class that fought for priveliges and power for themselves, not for Ukrainian liberty since they didnt perceive Ukraine as a separate national state.


We're talking about your historical books too.

Since the defeat at Irpen there was no state or national consciousness, you guys didnt exist as a country even in the perception of the local population so there's no point in creating a new history to fit your own sentiments.