News / Madonna to Visit Oswiecim [15]


That's my first thought about this too. 8, 4 and 3? Those kids aren't going to understand a thing.

Language / Learning to speak Polish options. [17]

I don't think an audio CD is the best way. They tend to speak very strangely on those CD's, and doesn't really prepare someone for a down-to-earth pronunciation. The best way is probably to correspond with any Polish persons through Skype or MSN and ask them for pronunciations (much cheaper and more effective than a CD). It helped me quite a lot.

UK, Ireland / Scotland encouraging immigration. [90]


Don't we pretty much have that already? You can get benefits for just about anything these days. A single teenage mother working a part-time job can easily pay all her bills and still have enough left over to pollute her lungs with an endless supply of fags and go out every weekend to get pissed. If anything, this country is rather soft.

UK, Ireland / Polish view on Ireland. [32]

Haha.

Australia / "A team will respond to any anti-Polish comments or acts." [16]

tj123
Darius was being ironic...

Law / Selling on Allegro from UK [19]

I must say that Polish websites in general are a chore to sign up to. I signed up to Allegro about a month ago and was horrified to discover that they send you an activation code in the post. As if this wasn't mind-numbing enough, I never did receive anything in the post.

UK, Ireland / UK HATRED TOWARDS POLES GROWING? [122]

tornado2007
You are far too intelligent to involve yourself with these people. You made a decent and admirable effort with them; that's commendable, but it's all you can do. They've made their intentions and choices clear, so I say we let them live with their self-impositions. Ignore them, the world keeps on turning regardless of these creatures.

UK, Ireland / UK HATRED TOWARDS POLES GROWING? [122]


Pretty much. Watch out for his new account "GregKelly" as well.

UK, Ireland / UK HATRED TOWARDS POLES GROWING? [122]


When you've finished drying your tears, I suggest you go back in time 4 years so that you can learn some basic primary school reading comprehension. Nothing I have said even remotely indicated that I am polite, or racist. All I do is mention facts and observations, whereas you... well, your stupidity and filth speaks for itself. This is my last post addressed to you until you start to mature. Bye.

Life / How do Poles view Polish-Americans? [8]

Ask yourself first; are you truly interested in Poland?

As for Polish view on "Polish"-Americans; I don't know, as I'm not a Pole. However, Americans who refer to themselves as X nationality based on their ancestry look REALLY dumb and laughable. You seem intelligent and sensible, so if anyone asks, I'd advise you to only say that your parents/grandparents are Polish, and that you are American. Referring to yourself as Polish when you are not won't do you any favours.

If you do want to see Poland, it's strongly recommended that you gain a basic grasp of the language before you go. Polish is intensely complicated, and I don't think it would be beneficial to be immersed in it before you're aware of the basics. Take a few months to get familiar with it first. The pronunciation isn't hard. This should help you avoid looking silly when trying to speak Polish, and thus you won't look like an ignorant foreigner when in Poland.

UK, Ireland / UK HATRED TOWARDS POLES GROWING? [122]


To be fair, I don't think all Asians are like that. Like with all people, there are the good and the bad. The UK happened to receive a majority of the bad Asians. The closed-minded moronic ones who still think they're in Pakistan, and will cling on to their illusions until the second their worthless life in this country is done with. Some of the Polish youth are the same, and so are the British (the "chav" generation, basically). Pakistan and India are pretty much Anglophone countries anyway, so I don't know where you're getting this "They dunt spik inglesh" info from.

And the spread of religion is never a good thing.

UK, Ireland / UK HATRED TOWARDS POLES GROWING? [122]


Um...the most useful international language on the planet? Ring a bell?

UK, Ireland / UK HATRED TOWARDS POLES GROWING? [122]

I have not witnessed any anti-Polish sentiment. The only thing that could vaguely be interpreted as anti-Polish would be what I've heard from some of my family members in the Police. They often complain of the Polish (youth) drinking too much and being generally disruptive. This is, of course, an incredibly dumb double-standard, since the British youth do exactly the same thing.

I don't see any problems with Poles integrating. Culturally, they're already pretty similar to us (compared to the Asians here). As long as they can speak English, I don't see why anybody would have a problem with them. Honestly, the fact that so many Poles come here and can learn English plus integrate in such a small time frame should really put all those self-segregating Pakistani's to shame. I've met a few old-ish Poles whose English ranged from crappy to fluent. Compare that to some of the oldest Asians who have been here for decades and still fail to speak English. You have to wonder what the **** they're doing here if they can't even manage something which they should have picked up automatically within a few months. Even the younger generations have strange accents, and ******** English skills.

UK, Ireland / Scotland encouraging immigration. [90]


Your "us and them" mentality is so cute :D It'll be a shame for it to disappear as you mature into adulthood. Playing silly games of cowboys and indians gets quite tedious as you get older. I suggest taking up a competitive video game, such as Halo.


That's not at all what I meant, and you know it.

UK, Ireland / Scotland encouraging immigration. [90]


Incorrect. They will gain citizenship at some point, or they'll marry someone with citizenship, or their children will have citizenship. After that, they can stay indefinitely, which they probably will.

UK, Ireland / Scotland encouraging immigration. [90]


Wow, you mean capital cities tend to have a high immigrant population? Dear god, has someone alerted NASA?!

If you don't like it, I suggest you move to one of the many parts of Ireland which has fewer immigrants. You live in the capital, for gods sake. Your whining about how the Irish are being overrun by foreigners is made largely irrelevant by this one fact alone.

I can understand why it annoys you. I've been to London a few times, and even I was quite shocked with the sheer amount of non-natives there. Being brought up in a 99% white society and never having known any black people before, I was slightly uncomfortable with the amount of blacks I was seeing per second. I honestly do agree that immigration can be taken too far at times, the UK and Ireland being prime examples. Thankfully, though, there does happen to exist a UK outside of London, as I'm sure an Ireland exists outside of Dublin. If you don't like where you currently are, then the answer is simple; leave. You're not going to change anything by ******** and moaning to random people. Dublin is an international city, whether you like it or not. If a more authentic Irish experience you seek, then it should not be so hard to find.

Love / Do Polish guys think getting physically violent with a woman is OK? [40]

My "agenda" here is to discuss topics pertaining to Poland and the Polish language. It seems most of you have made it your own personal agenda to post as much hateful and irrelevant crap as possible, and that's fine for you, keep at it. Don't assume I'm going to indulge in your crap at all. Now that you've marked yourself out as one of those moronic posters who isn't worth their weight in bandwidth, I'll know to simply disregard your posts. I'll save my discussion and musings with the few intelligent members here, thank you.

Please, do continue your irrelevant angst-ridden rant about Muslims, or Jews, or blacks, or Indians, or whoever it is you're all disgusted with this week. If anyone has anything of worth to add, I'll gladly welcome the opportunity for some good, relevant and sensible discussion.

Love / Do Polish guys think getting physically violent with a woman is OK? [40]


What the **** are you all talking about? I'm just utterly baffled by the incapability of anyone in this thread to be consistent and coherent. Since WHEN are we talking about Muslims, and since when did I mention anything that could even be remotely construed as pertaining to being a "real man"? Seriously, what the **** are you people on? Your crazy off-topic BS may be tolerated by some, but don't assume for a second I'm playing your little games.

Love / Do Polish guys think getting physically violent with a woman is OK? [40]


I think you're intentionally twisting peoples statements to suit your own over-defensive position (you've done it twice in this thread alone). I don't know any person, man or woman, who would take "Women are weaker than men" and turn it into "Women are financially and professionally weaker than men". Is it possible for you to just take statements at face value, and stop intentionally misinterpreting them as negatively as possible?

Love / Do Polish guys think getting physically violent with a woman is OK? [40]


What on earth are you trying to say? Really, you're becoming quite the parody of yourself now. Either form coherent communications, or I won't be giving you the pleasure of a response from me any longer. I'm not sure in what circle of life you discovered it acceptable to speak like a retarded ape on amphetamines, but you should know right now that it's not tolerated when people actually expect from you understandable communication

Love / Do Polish guys think getting physically violent with a woman is OK? [40]


Don't be such a moron, Shelley. He said "weaker", not "submissive" (though an argument could far too easily be made for women being both of those things). There was nothing incorrect in his second sentence at all. Women are weaker than men. Fact.

Language / Polish Case System [32]

OK, thanks for the recommendation.

Language / Polish Case System [32]

Merged: Learning about the different cases

The different cases are a very important and fundamental part of the Polish language, and probably the main reason why it's so difficult to learn. I have yet to find any resources on the different cases that didn't over-intellectualize the whole thing to the point of obscurity and impracticality. I.e. They would tell me the name of the various cases, spelling, show me examples of when it's used, but rarely would they just simply tell me what it's for. "This is case X, and it is used for... You can use it like this... etc." would be nice. I feel the intellectual approach to learning Polish (or any) language is ineffective, and really takes away from any practicality that might be learned.

So, basically, does anyone know of any practical and thorough resources on the various cases?

UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]


I see what you're saying, but I don't think those huge cities like London, Manchester and Glasgow are accurate representations of the rest of the country. Any gigantic city is going to have gigantic ethnic proportions. It's a given. I could point to most capital cities in the industrialized world and complain about the Africans/the Asians/the Jews/the Poles/the British/the Arabs/the Indians/the Chinese/the Latins taking over. People who are bitter about this fact should just move somewhere else in the country.

Using Wikipedia as a source, in 2006 England had a 90% White population. If by "65%" you mean only "65% ethnically Anglo-Saxon", then that's quite irrelevant.


Studies indicate that the entire human race originated in Central-East Africa. The point that was being made is that all ethnicities and nationalities are NEVER indigenous to a particular point of land. They migrated there at some point, and most likely they fought bloody and senseless battles for that land, either wiping out the former settlers or being wiped out themselves by future settlers.

UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]


I live in a large town, which I think would be representative of what the rest of England or the UK is like. It has a 94% white population, reminiscent of the overall 93% for the whole of the UK, so it confuses me when you state a 90% ethnic population in a school. I can't help but think that most of you are overreacting or hyperboling somewhat... ?

UK, Ireland / Irish Primary schools to teach Polish [223]

Where on earth do you live that teaches Urdu in schools, and is 90% Asian? Are we living in the same UK?

Law / Do I have Polish citizenship? [12]



No.


LOL no.

Life / Damn proud of being (half) Polish [77]


Haha, I love this reply. There's nothing more amusing than seeing idiot nationalists brought down a notch by reality.


I'd like to further expand upon this by pointing out that Caucasian officially refers to all or most ethnic groups within Europe, North Africa, Middle-East, South Asia, Central Asia, and North Asia. Yes, who'd have thunk it? Skin colour actually means very little when it comes to ethnic classifications.


Before anyone swells with pride upon reading anything that their country/ethnic group contributed to WWII, let's all take a step back and try and realise the scope of WWII, and why it's utterly pointless to be proud of a war that killed hundreds of millions of people worldwide:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participants_in_World_War_II article lists 103 participating countries, so pretty much anyone can give themselves an ego boost by saying that their country/ethnic group contributed to WWII. Newsflash: A LOT of countries were involved in WWII. Yours is no special snowflake among them. Also, pretty much anyone, if they can be bothered to trace their family tree, can find someone in their family who participated in the war. "Wow, my grandpappy was one of the millions upon millions of people who fought in the war, how unique!!!" - do you see now how stupid this sounds?

In the off-chance that you're still mentally deficient enough to still want to have some feelings of pride directed in or around WWII, or your national/ethnic heritage in general, let's take a look at some selectively good points that various countries have attributed to them during the war:

Germany - built itself from the ground up into the most powerful, respected and feared country on Earth. Plunged the entire world into the most brutal and unforgettable war in the history of mankind, and managed to wage war on too many countries to even count, all by itself. Most interesting, though, is that despite being defeated and plunged back into it's pitiful penniless state, it recovered in a "miracle-like" fashion. Even today it remains a largely important country with envious influences and economic success. It even recovered faster then the United Kingdom, which actually won the war and had histories largest Empire at its disposal. OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being German, durrr.

Canada - "About one million Canadians served in uniform during WW II." I don't know Canada's population back then, but by today's standards 1 million people is a huge 1/20'th of their population. OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being Canadian, durrr.

India - I thought this one would be extremely fun to mention, seeing as how its contributions are often 100% overlooked in the history books, and that this forum has a striking disdain for Indians. "Over 6.8 million Indian citizens fought with the Indian Army, Royal Indian Air Force, and Royal Indian Navy, forming the largest army raised by voluntary enlistment. Part of India was occupied by Japanese forces during the war, and India suffered 1.5 million civilian casualties, as well as up to 4 million dead from famine in the Bengal region, which was created by both the Japanese military actions and the British administration[citation needed]. Over 96,000 Indian members of the armed forces were killed or went missing in action, and 74,354 were wounded during the war. Indian personnel received 2,000 awards for gallantry, including 31 Victoria Crosses." OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being Indian, durrr.

Iran - "Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, who was willing to fight the Axis powers. Within months Iran entered the war on the side of the Allies and became known as "The Bridge of Victory"." OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being Persian, durrr.

Ireland - For being neutral, they sure contributed a lot. OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being Irish, durrr.

Saudi Arabia - "Saudi Arabia did sever diplomatic contacts with Germany on September 11, 1939, and with Japan in October 1941. Although officially neutral, the Saudis did provide the Allies with large supplies of oil. Diplomatic relations with the United States were established in 1943. King Abdul Aziz Al-Saud was a personal friend of Franklin D. Roosevelt. The Americans were then allowed to build an air force base near Dhahran. On February 28, 1945, Saudi Arabia declared war on Germany and Japan." OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being Saudi Arabian, durrr.

South Africa - "Union of South Africa declared war on Germany shortly after the United Kingdom, on September 6, 1939. Three South African infantry divisions and one armoured division fought under Allied commands in Europe and elsewhere, most notably in the North African campaign and the Italian campaign. Most of the South African 2nd Division was taken prisoner with the fall of Tobruk on June 21, 1942. Under the Joint Air Training Scheme, part of the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan, South Africa trained 33 347 aircrews for the RAF, SAAF and other Allied air forces. Only Canada trained more." OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being South African, durrr.

Turkey - During the War, Turkey helped the Jewish Community by protecting those who made it to Turkey. OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being Turkish, durrr.

United Kingdom - The United Kingdom was one of the original Allies, entering the war in 1939 to honour its guarantees to Poland. After the fall of France, the United Kingdom was the only Allied nation left in Europe until the invasion of Greece. It remained the only one of the Big Three in the war until 1941 when the Soviet Union was invaded. The United Kingdom was heavily engaged in the Western European, Atlantic, Mediterranean, African and South East Asian theatres, and was considered one of the Big Three during Allied conferences in the second half of the war. The United Kingdom maintained close ties with the nations of the British Empire, and the forces of those countries were often incorporated into British military operations. OR... ololooloolllol I'm damn proud of being British, durrr.

Hopefully you'll see what I'm saying.

Life / Why do a lot of Polish people stare and why is good personal hygeine shunned? [108]


Washing your hands after going to the toilet and showering are two different things completely. I wash my hands as thoroughly as possible, moreso than anyone I've ever known. This takes no longer than 10-30 seconds. A shower can take anywhere from 10-25 minutes. Going to the toilet around 7 times day would be approximately 2 minutes of washing time for your hands, at the MOST. Couple this with any cooking you do throughout the day, which would be around an extra 3 minutes. That's 5 minutes of soap and water exposure for your hands, approximately. Even just 5 minutes can be quite a lot, as your hands will be noticeably dryer than they were previously. 30-40 minutes of showering at different intervals in the day would not be good for the skin.

Showering twice a day can be good or bad, depending on how you go about it. Using shampoo, shower gel, etc. for both would most certainly lead to dryness of the skin and loss of skin/hair protection.

Language / When does polish "ch" sound like eng "ch" and when is it "h"? [59]

"Loch" makes a "k" sound when pronounced in a non-Scottish accent, so I'm not sure if that is the best example?