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Do Polish guys think getting physically violent with a woman is OK?


natasia2 1 | 14  
24 Jul 2009 /  #1
I am beginning to wonder whether it is more accepted among Polish male culture that being provoked into hitting or otherwise being overly physical with a woman is somehow ... excusable/acceptable in certain situations.

I don't by ANY means want to suggest that all Polish guys think like this, or indeed that any of you reading do .. but whereas I think to an English guy any kind of physical domination of a woman is considered completely wrong, I get the impression that there is a sub-current of opinion among Poles that in some situations it's pretty much the only option, or certainly an 'understandable' one.

Thoughts please ...
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
24 Jul 2009 /  #2
I don't think so. Although I'm not out with my clipboard and pen, I don't imagine that they are any different from Scots, for example. Some women bring it on themselves.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
24 Jul 2009 /  #3
Well i'm not sure about the history of Polish blokes and their attitude towards women, especially when it comes to giving them a bit of a slap. As i usually do i will say that hitting women or not has nothing to do with a particular nationality, it is down to the individual.

As far as i'm concerned a man SHOULD NEVER, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, TOUCH A WOMEN/LADY/GIRL. No matter what she has said or done, any man who strikes a woman is in my view a coward and should be treated as such. There is/are no excuses for a man to place his hand on a woman in anger, any man who does so should be severely punished!!!!!!

I've had a woman hit me, another one throw solid objects at me, scream at me. Yet still i managed to keep my cool in both voice and action, i'm not saying women have a given right to attack me but what i am saying, no matter what, it is not a mans place to physically harm a female.

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jump_bunny 5 | 237  
24 Jul 2009 /  #4
I saw my friend fighting with her boyfriend while breaking up. He left her for somebody else and she started punching him, he punched her back. I wish I did that to my ex but he was smart enough to end this on the internet. Polish guys are usually sweet and gentlemen though!
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
24 Jul 2009 /  #5
Polish guys are sweet, LOL. I appreciate comedy. Some are and some aren't.
sadieann 2 | 205  
24 Jul 2009 /  #6
a man SHOULD NEVER, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, TOUCH A WOMEN/LADY/GIRL.

I feel very strongly about this. It should never, ever be tolerated. Your simply not a real man if you ever do this!
Jihozapad  
24 Jul 2009 /  #7
As far as i'm concerned a man SHOULD NEVER, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, TOUCH A WOMEN/LADY/GIRL. No matter what she has said or done, any man who strikes a woman is in my view a coward and should be treated as such. There is/are no excuses for a man to place his hand on a woman in anger, any man who does so should be severely punished!!!!!!

Agreed, but it should work both ways, though - no-one has ever hit me (and I've never hit a woman), but the first woman to hit me is SO dumped immediately, with no chance of any "discussion". No cheating or violence. I would expect to be dumped for doing either of the above, so I don't tolerate it either.
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
24 Jul 2009 /  #8
my ex but he was smart enough to end this on the internet

thats not clever, that is gutless and cowardly, how dare somebody end a relationship that way. It shows total disrespect to the partner, if he had any feelings for you at all then he should at least have the balls to confront you in person if he is going to tell you your breaking up.

Polish guys are usually sweet and gentlemen though!

90% of blokes are jump_bunny, it may just seem like a higher percentage aren't, well in fact its made to look like that because all the violent men who hit women are shown on the news or in newspapers. The ones who are normal, treat women well even if they are arguing, never feature because its not news.

I feel very strongly about this. It should never, ever be tolerated. Your simply not a real man if you ever do this!

EXACTLY

but the first woman to hit me is SO dumped immediately

I don't think anybody would have a problem with that, in fact that is the best action to take, show her while your not going to ever lay a hand on her but at the same time your not willing to accept it either.
jump_bunny 5 | 237  
24 Jul 2009 /  #9
thats not clever, that is gutless and cowardly, how dare somebody end a relationship that way. It shows total disrespect to the partner, if he had any feelings for you at all then he should at least have the balls to confront you in person if he is going to tell you your breaking up.

I was being sacrastic Torny!
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
24 Jul 2009 /  #10
well forgive me for pointing it out but its really hard to tell in black and white bunny, you could have at least put some sort of emotion at the end to show you were being sarcastic
southern 75 | 7,096  
25 Jul 2009 /  #11
Most polish women have told me their partner beat them and I can see the reason why.
But we are soft in mediteranean countries.
OP natasia2 1 | 14  
25 Jul 2009 /  #12
Most polish women have told me their partner beat them

my point entirely.

But we are soft in mediteranean countries.

this kind of softness is desirable
tornado2007 11 | 2,274  
25 Jul 2009 /  #13
this kind of softness is desirable

i think in general that is what you will get, as i said before it is only the violence you ever get to hear about, hardely any men would even think to take their hand to a woman.
Robert A 1 | 102  
25 Jul 2009 /  #14
English guy any kind of physical domination of a woman is considered completely wrong

Sorry to disabuse you of this notion; domestic violence in the UK is a sorry fact of life.

Interestingly, my girlfriend, who is Polish, was recounting a conversation she had with a work colleauge, also Polish and female. During the course of their conversation the subject of having a relationship with an Englishman came up. To my surprise, this woman advised my girlfriend not to have a romantic relationship with any Englishmen, because they are violent toward Polish woman.

My girlfriend was married to a Polishman for thirteen years. He frequently abused her both physically and emotionally - even killing her pet cat when she told him she was leaving him.

My girlfriend did point out to her colleauge that she is in a realtionship with an Englishman and that I had never made any attempt to visit any form of abuse upon her person. Of course we have arguments, and yes I do get angry. When it gets to the point that I want to lash out, I walk out of the door.

Domestic violence is not confined to Polish men. It is here in the UK too, and in other countries around the world also.
Dancing_Fire - | 2  
25 Jul 2009 /  #15
As far as i'm concerned a man SHOULD NEVER, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, TOUCH A WOMEN/LADY/GIRL. No matter what she has said or done, any man who strikes a woman is in my view a coward and should be treated as such. There is/are no excuses for a man to place his hand on a woman in anger, any man who does so should be severely punished!!!!!!

yes a man who hits a woman is a man who can not hit another man..

I agree.
Pimpek 1 | 24  
25 Jul 2009 /  #16
what happens if the man is a relative..like a father ??
mw78 3 | 29  
25 Jul 2009 /  #17
what about really old men or disabled men.

I think stephen hawkins was abused by his partner, is this true?

A girlfriend of mine threw a dart in my head once, i didn't hit her but part of me wanted too.

It really hurt!

I hate it when women use this to there own advantage or to get other men fighting with each other.
plk123 8 | 4,149  
25 Jul 2009 /  #18
natasia2

u r definitely onto something.. unfortunately i think it is true and most posters here are either ignorant or in denial about this.
frd 7 | 1,399  
25 Jul 2009 /  #19
From what I know, probably the same everywhere, domestic violance is mostly connected to abnormal and pathological environment poor uneducated families with a history of alcohole and abuse - and the story repeats itself with every next generation. In communities of well educated people chances of a deviation are much much smaller.
ozdan 8 | 67  
25 Jul 2009 /  #20
As far as i'm concerned a man SHOULD NEVER, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, TOUCH A WOMEN/LADY/GIRL. No matter what she has said or done, any man who strikes a woman is in my view a coward and should be treated as such.

I disagree..

A friend of mine in london once told me a story of how he and his girlfriend got into an argument with two female prostitutes over a taxi. The prostitutes ended up getting violent and attacked both him and his girlfriend with their high heeled shoes, and they both ended up in hospital.

He's actually quite a big guy and could have easily controlled the situation, but because of this "never hit a woman" mentality he ended up putting himself and his girlfriend in danger by not using appropriate measures to defend himself.
time means 5 | 1,310  
25 Jul 2009 /  #21
There is/are no excuses for a man to place his hand on a woman in anger,

On your soapbox again.

Shouldn't that apply to both sexes? What about in defence? If you go around hitting someone you have to expect getting one back.
esek 2 | 228  
25 Jul 2009 /  #22
I get the impression that there is a sub-current of opinion among Poles that in some situations it's pretty much the only option

wrong impression...

just keep in mind that many stupid 'dresow' went to england/ireland etc for easy money 2-3 yrs ago and while you aren't polish most probably you don't know if you're talking with 'dres' (or seeing his actions) or just normal guy.
lexi 1 | 176  
25 Jul 2009 /  #23
In communities of well educated people chances of a deviation are much much smaller.
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In communities of well educated people chances of a deviation are much much smaller.

Domestic violence has no boundaries, it crosses every strata of life.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
25 Jul 2009 /  #24
Some women bring it on themselves.

What??? Are you crazy! A man can easily walk away if a woman is trying to cause an argument, its not a green light to fcuking hit a woman!!!!!!!!!! Im really shocked at that comment Seanus!

Agreed, but it should work both ways, though

Agreed.

to put a woman in the place dat was given to hers by ALLAH our creator is cultur norm in albania. she is weaker then men.

You are a fcuking retard...I'd like to get you in judo ring and see who's fcuking submissive! Ya tw*t!
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
25 Jul 2009 /  #25
I was talking about those crazy women who like being abused, Shelley. There are those who don't leave such brutal men and even provoke them into such actions.

Plenty across the world. Ask a Pole what 'rodzina patologiczna' means.

I didn't mean it in the way you read it. Just stating fact though.
Matowy - | 295  
25 Jul 2009 /  #26
You are a fcuking retard...I'd like to get you in judo ring and see who's fcuking submissive! Ya tw*t!

Don't be such a moron, Shelley. He said "weaker", not "submissive" (though an argument could far too easily be made for women being both of those things). There was nothing incorrect in his second sentence at all. Women are weaker than men. Fact.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893  
26 Jul 2009 /  #27
Women are weaker than men. Fact.

Ya reckon so? I have a friend who owns more properties properties in the UK and abroad than you could ever dream of she also holds down a very good job...Im sure she is a "stronger" woman than any man you'll ever know!

I was talking about those crazy women who like being abused, Shelley. There are those who don't leave such brutal men and even provoke them into such actions.

If you'd ever met a woman who'd been in such a relationship you would have an inclin into why such women stay in such relationships...fear is a big factor and the fact they've been conditioned to respond to such abuse, its very ****** up but it becomes a part of daily life...as a man you really couldnt understand. As someone said its not restricted to class in the UK, the nice middle class man comes home and beats the **** out of his wife too.

I knew albos are strong men who beat women.

I'd like to see one try and do it to me, Im not violent, quite the oposite, but if someone put their hands on me, they'd be wearing the scares not me!
Matowy - | 295  
26 Jul 2009 /  #28
Are you on your grammar, superiority reign again >LOL<.

What on earth are you trying to say? Really, you're becoming quite the parody of yourself now. Either form coherent communications, or I won't be giving you the pleasure of a response from me any longer. I'm not sure in what circle of life you discovered it acceptable to speak like a retarded ape on amphetamines, but you should know right now that it's not tolerated when people actually expect from you understandable communication
Jihozapad  
26 Jul 2009 /  #29
Don't be such a moron, Shelley. He said "weaker", not "submissive" (though an argument could far too easily be made for women being both of those things). There was nothing incorrect in his second sentence at all.

Actually, you're the moron, Mr. politically-correct holier-than-thou grammar expert.

She might not have even been referring to the second sentence. The first refers to "Allah's will", and as Islam is all about "submission to Allah", putting the woman "in her place according to Allah's will" puts her in a submissive position.

Maybe you and the Albanian may be better off posting on SoAsians.com, because we don't need any Islamic apologists on here.

Women are weaker than men. Fact.

Which makes woman-beating Muslims look like even more like "real men", oh yes indeed.
Matowy - | 295  
26 Jul 2009 /  #30
Ya reckon so? I have a friend who owns more properties properties in the UK and abroad than you could ever dream of she also holds down a very good job...Im sure she is a "stronger" woman than any man you'll ever know!

I think you're intentionally twisting peoples statements to suit your own over-defensive position (you've done it twice in this thread alone). I don't know any person, man or woman, who would take "Women are weaker than men" and turn it into "Women are financially and professionally weaker than men". Is it possible for you to just take statements at face value, and stop intentionally misinterpreting them as negatively as possible?

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