Work / How are nurses graded in Poland and what is their typical salary? [14]


So was I.


I believe it's bad from what Polish people here tell me. I know one girl who was a nurse in Poland she gets more working in a coffee shop here. I don't really understand the nursing system in Poland so was hoping someone could explain it.

Well, this topic has come up again in my research and as I still haven't found out any significant information about it I would appreciate some help from people who know Poland.

How are nurses graded in Poland?

Well, I've got to include nursing systems in other countries in my next report so it wouldn't hurt to include Poland. Rather than quoting the same old stats from the usual countries it would be interesting to know the wage range of Polish nurses and their grades and salary differences.

I've just done research into the care of the elderly in Poland and it's interesting indeed. More family orientated in Poland compared with USA or the UK.

Language / IS POLISH LANGUAGE'S VULGARALISATION MEDIA-DRIVEN? [23]


It is. When I listen to British radio all the swear words are edited out of songs. Different when I listen to Polish radio, all the swear words are left in.


That was more about him calling an old man up and telling him he'd slept with his grand-daughter. I don't think that is acceptable.


Yes there were many more serious things going on in the world at that time but that's British Media for you.

Language / IS POLISH LANGUAGE'S VULGARALISATION MEDIA-DRIVEN? [23]

I believe that there is more profanity in films and on TV because the writers lack the ability to write an interesting script without it. Looking back at films and TV from a few decades ago, there was absolutely no need for profanity because the writers could write scripts without it.

UK, Ireland / Polish people in an english army [85]


The guy has said nothing about it, this is all speculation from his girlfriend, probably after he just casually said he might like to join the British Army. ;)

UK, Ireland / Polish people in an english army [85]


They consider NI as part of it all now (at least concerning the army). Here is a quote from the army.mod.uk - British Army Website:

UK, Ireland / Polish people in an english army [85]


It's about one in the same these days. The rules are adjusted to suit, as always.


I know what you said. However, this guy doesn't want to serve with his army. He wants to serve with British army. So as long as he passes all the required tests, let him.


It's true because of one base? Is this in the UK? If so, tell me, what is the holding political party in that region?

UK, Ireland / Polish people in an english army [85]


Well, that's just not true from the experiences I have had.


They are proud. As they rightly should be. To say that the Poles shouldn't enter isn't right though. Polish and British soldiers have something of a kinship (it may be Scottish soldiers though).


Actually you should learn that when soldiers join the army in the UK they join the 'British' army. So regardless of whether they are born in England, Scotland, Wales or NI, they are in the British army. Also learn that being in Scottish means you aren't English.


Actually I doubt this girl cares. She seems to despise the fact that her boyfriend wants to fight for her her country. She'd probably happily give his identity away for a kebab and a £1 bottle of cider.


So do I. If he ever reads this, all the best and make us proud. :)

Yeah neat edit Wyspianska, glad I caught it in quote though...

UK, Ireland / Polish people in an english army [85]


Aren't you a lovely girlfriend. Your boyfriend tells you something that interests him and you say it bores (well 'boars') you. Maybe he's more polite and doesn't tell you the things that bore him about you.

Why do you have such a problem with him joining the British army? It really is like you don't want to have anything to do with Polish people danielle1. He's perfectly entitled to join the British army as long as he qualifies, which he will do. He should do it whether you agree or not. You should be happy he wants to be such a part of British life yet you push him away. Hopefully he'll meet someone supportive soon.

He can join the British army and they would be happy to have him I am sure.

UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]


Exactly but that is not the problem. The problem is companies importing entire work forces rather than advertising jobs. It means that anyone living in the UK (of any nationality) are not getting the chance at those jobs.

The reason I pointed out that race discrimination quote from the article was to highlight how idiotic it was. I don't think racism is involved in this situation (at least it shouldn't be).

UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]


Yes I missed out a bit of it. I was just pointing out that the government was to blame not any immigrant group. ;)

I just read an article about a deal to end these strikes but it was written 3 days ago. It's interesting to read this :


The companies and the government have it all nicely tied up, it seems.

UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]


It does seem that way sometimes doesn't it? In reality it's been caused by governments splashing the cash and bad decisions by the biggest banks in the world. If people want to have a march against anything they should march against the governments or the banks.

While I'm having a bash at governments, this situation in England which kicked off this whole anti-immigration tirade was caused by the British government allowing a system where they could sell a company to a foreign buyer and then allow the foreign buyer to be 'selective' about who they have working for them, in this case importing Italians to work in this Italian firm. That's what really needs to be sorted out. Ideally at least 50% of the jobs should have been advertised in the UK but then again, it's not guaranteed that 'British' people would have applied or got the jobs.

UK, Ireland / Here comes the Anti-Immigration marches.... [114]


Why? There have always been foreigners. It's not a new thing. I'm never sure where this 'I'm sick of foreigners' thing comes from. Is it because they bring new cultures that people just don't want to get used to? I had the laugh of my life a couple of weeks ago listening to a person who I don't consider a friend but who hangs around thinking they're liked. I listened to a diatribe about Pakistanis and Indians in the UK. A very bad mouthful indeed. Then we all decided to order some food and this idiot said 'Oh get me a beef curry, the hotter the better'. Yeah, the curry, that great British traditional food...

Irish problems in the UK? Yes there are some, especially if you are Irish Catholic in some parts. (Some places in Scotland). You can get stabbed for walking down certain streets in Glasgow particularly.


An Irish friend of mine uses the phrase 'fogged off' all the time. She used it today in fact when she went to see her boss about something, she told me he 'completely fogged her off'. Different dialect, different words.

ShelleyS you are actually very racist (towards British citizens it often seems - considering many 'Pakis' are actually British) and for a female, very foul mouthed. It may be a Mancunian thing that their women resemble their men but for everywhere else in the world, the women have a little decorum and can broadcast their beliefs without using foul language or derogatory statements. No doubt you'll reply to this with about six lines of swearing and insults and I don't care. I learned long ago that people who replied in such a manner lacked the intellect to construct a proper reply, with fact and intelligent argument.

Travel / Clubbing in Warsaw - will we have trouble getting into the bars? [5]

You shouldn't have any trouble getting into bars at all. It's large groups of males that have the reputation and they (bouncers) probably won't be worried about a guy and his girl out together. Have a lovely time. :)

Love / KISSING ON THE LIPS (problem with my Polish in-laws) [17]


I think you already know the answer to that. Possessive over their son yes, I can see that happening, snogging other members of their family in such a way...no.

Talk to your husband, he didn't put up much of a fight when you asked him to stop kissing them on the lips, maybe he doesn't think it's normal either.

UK, Ireland / WHY DO POLISH PEOPLE THAT COME TO ENGLAND CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH? [118]


I can understand what you are saying there. I look at it slightly differently though. I know Polish women who have come here with their partner and worked hard since the day they arrived. A couple of them have fallen pregnant, left work for maternity leave and returned to work after that time has been over (although working reduced hours). Their partners continue to work full time all through it. So although they have only been here a couple of years they have been paying tax all that time, they may not have contributed much but at least they have contributed something and continue to do so.

What gets me is standing in the checkout queue behind a foul-mouthed chavette who has probably never paid much tax before falling pregnant and using our tax pounds to bring up their child. It's unlikely that this person will contribute much to this country. So I understand what you mean about NHS care to immigrants but also that this country happily funds chavs to bring up other chavs and so on. That bothers me more than any one who is hardworking and contributing.

On another note - my company employs a lot of Polish people many of whom were trying to sort out English lessons but couldn't because of the times of the classes v the hours they work. So now my company is a bit more flexible with the working hours to allow time for classes. For example, one girl found a class that ran every weekend, Saturday and Sunday but she worked every second weekend. So the Boss arranged her working pattern slightly and now she attends her class every week. During holidays though she works all weekends. It just takes some give and take. ;)

Life / Living In Poland For The Expat [67]

It's very effective. You also get less harassed by them because you're doing it deliberately. ;)

Life / Living In Poland For The Expat [67]

The trick to dealing with people who harass you at the checkout queue is to go even slower than they already think you are. Take ages put things down on the counter and packing your bag and then take ages finding the right amount of cash or right card and then packing your change/card away and collecting your bags together. You'll annoy them even more if you drop your card or something and then take your time in picking it up. :)

Travel / Regions in Poland - interesting and helpful website. [4]

Yes it is quite a good site. I only looked at the Pomorskie region but I like the slideshow at the top and at the side. The music gets a bit much after a while but you can mute it. It is a nice site though and the pictures could entice you to Poland if nothing else did! :)

Also, I think the idea of having it in six languages is great.

The pictures I saw were really good. Should be a useful site for travelers indeed. :)

Life / Facebook - is it popular in Poland? [22]

You're right. I asked a few of my Polish friends about joining facebook but they told me no and asked me what was the point of facebook was. Yet they're all on NK... :)

UK, Ireland / Getting married to a Polish Citizen in the UK [371]

Well, needless to say that in UK, USA and obviously Poland there are girls who are willing to marry for the sake of a few thousand dollars so that their "beloveds" can get their papers. Why is this a shock? I'm sure you all know this by now.

Then there are the naive girls who fall for someone giving them line. Now come on girls, we all fall, at time to time, for a guy giving us a smooth line. None of you are innocent of that so why badger a girl who did. For many women a guy saying all the right words can deceive for years. We all know it so don't give "miss" a hard time. At least she finally worked it out.

Life / When in Poland, should I be British or Scottish? [104]


You've proof of that do you? Or are you just believing what the Daily Record told you to believe? Hmm?

A person can feel Scottish without blatant hatred I am sure. LondonChick was asking a different question to the one you've answered.


Not always. We're all aware of the scum element within the Scottish football "fan" base too. Less advertised but just as prominent.

Love / Polish Girlfriend gone missing [154]


Don't take this the wrong way but I feel that when you start to feel something like that strongly then you know it's time to go back. If nothing is making you happy here then don't fight it. Why stay when you know that things could be better in PL?

Or maybe life would be different for you here if you weren't with that guy? Who knows? You have some decisions to make and good luck with them. :)

As for the girlfriend of the OP, she's just nasty.


Precisely.

Love / Best foot forward please advise Polish ladies? [6]

Maybe but maybe not. Two of my Polish friends are in Poland over the festive period visiting their parents and family, they are single and have no "others" in Poland.

It would be harmless if you just asked him how his Christmas was, if you get a chance to talk. You can say to him that you understand the Polish tradition is to celebrate Christmas Eve and see where it goes from there. Good luck. :)

News / POLISH TV CHEF MACIEJ KUROŃ DEAD AT 48 [7]

This is very sad and I am sorry to hear it, he had a wife and I think two children so my thoughts are with them.

Life / How do Polish people view themselves? [92]

That is how some people live and work though Cheery. They may not want to but to get by, they must.


Maybe he's not joking?


Grand.

Love / Polish Girlfriend gone missing [154]


Hmm, no I think it's more than this. A summer romance ends after summer. Maybe it takes one or two weeks but not into December when all other aspects of life have moved on.


This was not the only visit though, as you'll have noted, there have been four (five?) since then.


That's actually a very good point. In Poland Doctors are not like in the UK, they don't have a rush to get your out of their surgeries, they actually want to help you. So they might suggest to go to hospital for something they aren't sure of. Then if you are ill, yes some time to get better you head back to the family.

Send her a letter and do something smart like type the envelope so no one recognises the writing on the envelope.

May I ask? Does her Father speak English? If so you may want to write or attempt to speak to him and explain that you are extremely worried for her and only want to know that she is OK and as far as romantic interest goes you fully intend on spending the rest of your life with her, if that is what she want.

Law / POLISH BUSINESS IN UK OR UK BUSINESS IN POLAND??? [5]

I imagine it's very difficult both ways. Money (and red tape) are probably the biggest barriers. I'd say Poles in the UK would have the money issue more than Brits in Poland.

The best people to answer this are of course people who've experienced either and I'm sure there are a few on the forum. :)

Feedback / PolishForums.com mission needs to be plastered on the front of this forum [49]


lol - yes and the rules too, when I first joined, not just recently.


Sorry, bad English. Simply I meant it would be a tragedy to hide negative points about Poland or Polish people.


Not all of them but then this isn't a perfect world. If it was then we'd be saying "my dear Lady, I apologise but I feel we differ on this subject. I respect your differing opinion as you respect mine." People argue. Some people don't like Poland or Polish people and they aren't going to put those points forward nicely 100% of the time.

Feedback / PolishForums.com mission needs to be plastered on the front of this forum [49]


I know that.

I think you're suggesting the threads are edited to provide a more negative or controversial view and therefore attract more people. If you do think that then you need to stop looking for the negative threads and concentrate on all the forums. There's a great mix of threads on PF both showing Poland's good points and the bad (and the bad do exist so of course there will be threads about this). There are negative things to be said about some Polish people too and to hide the points about that would be a tragedy. PF reflects a wide spectrum of views, good and bad.