News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]

Come on, Poland joined the EU in 2004, not 1957 when it was the EEC. Reasons for that aside, extensive thought went into joining it. Poland tried to accede b4 but didn't meet certain environmental standards.

Crow, every ratifying nation relinquishes a lot of power to supranational Brussels. Poland is no different in this regard, not a special case.

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

And even here he was deluded. The SS WAS super efficient. German soldiers were very talented fighters. They were just outnumbered and outfoxed.

To call them weak was unfair. A sad little man in denial he was

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

He was full of nonsense, a man filled with rage. I did a project on him, way back in secondary school mind you, but details like his tend to stick in the mind somewhere.

He wished the very thing that he praised dead. THEY WERE his cause. That showed how twisted he was. Disappointed him? Couldn't it be that the Allies were just superior and that he was fighting a losing battle?

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

Even at the expense of terminating life, the most heinous thing imaginable??

He certainly did have psychological problems, through art school rejection and snow sweeping.

No shopgirl, I was trying to get at £ukasz. I don't believe it but he was stating that Germans and Nazis were synonymous. I was trying to make the point, sarcastically, that u couldn't have such a scenario of those who condone killing and such brutality, being at large.

Read my previous posts and u'll see what I was hitting at.

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

That was staged according to most. There is evidence to suggest that Hitler's evil hand was behind it.

Oh, btw BB, what is ur opinion of Hitler? To me, it's the Thatcher syndrome if I could call it that. Many people, when asked, will say that she was a wretch and heavy-handed tyrant but she still won SOOOO many votes. Please be frank!!

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

I agree with Luki here, if only a little. Germans could have done more to stop him. However, Saddam proved that it's hard to overthrow a dictator. It needed American intervention to take him out. Many coups were attempted but all failed. So, I agree in principle Luki but practical realities lead us to different conclusions. Assassination attempts were either for the very brave or clinically insane!!

What did u have in mind £ukasz? What should Germans have done?

I've said it b4 £odz, many Slavs matched the criteria of an Aryan. Blond hair and blue eyes, sturdy build etc etc. Also, I find it hard to believe that a nation of mass murderers could be built so easily. It takes a certain type or EXCESSIVE propaganda.

However, you argue rationally and I do agree with a lot of what u say. I just like to argue the other side of the coin, it was kinda my training to do so.

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

The greater u pump up the potential percentage, the more fragile the case becomes. Let's say 70% were Nazi voters, even 80%. Dissenters were likely few.

So, 80% knew that the Holocaust was gonna happen and agreed with it? That's one nigh-on impossible change of sentiment after the war. Couldn't it just be that they were sold a manifesto full of goodies and went along with it?

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

Fair enough, but £ukasz still cannot prove his case. 43% is not overwhelming. It's hardly the landslide victory of the last couple of centuries.

How can so many inadvertently be mass murderers and serial killers, or aiders and abetters of it, and then turn full circle and enter into the ECSC? Wouldn't u agree that it takes a bit more for a serial killer to reform, if at all? Monsters don't become cooperative do-gooders overnight, that's my point.

News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]

So, u have nothing against sin? Sin is good, what Hitler did was good, right? Come on laddie, look at what u have just written.

Maybe it's the very fact that they keep announcing their Catholic status that turns people off. Ever thought of that? People don't wanna hear tedious musings from religious folk.

Point me to a law forbidding Christians from being an EU politician. Do u think they are all from other religious denominations or atheists/agnostics?

Do u think being Christian necessarily allows them to do their job better?

Aha, u edited ur post, well done

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

BB said it right. He had a nice program, one which only tenuously hinted at evil through lebensraum. Only insiders really knew how insidious his plans were.

Also, 43%, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't even half of the THEN German population. Hardly a basis for saying that we should be talking about Germans and not Nazis.

Don't get me wrong, Hitler was EVIL and the Holocaust was HORRIBLY wrong but that doesn't mean that things should be distorted and blown out of proportion.

My grandma was attacked too but I still look for some objectivity.

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

Pride doesn't mean that u eradicate an entire people. In Scotland, we have pride in our fighting triumphs but it doesn't mean that we wipe out millions.

I think there was just a national sentiment that Heisenberg (or whatever Hitler's predecessor was called) needed to be deposed and replaced by a strong leader. People rally behind such hard talkers.

Ancient promise, yeah, propaganda again.

Finally, a few letters of fan mail doesn't prove that he was a God, nor anything like it. U could find the same letters in many countries

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

No, Hitler was responsible and he is dead. Get with the program!!

Then why did the ECSC get formed as early as 1953? Stalin died and sufficient momentum had been gained to constitute this body. Germans u-turned after WWII, to look for a common pact with the French in particular. They did so because Hitler was no longer there to coerce or bully.

How many Germans have u talked to Luki, that have actually expressed such a view that Hitler was God? It was all part of the propaganda machine. Do u even know anything about Hitler's background btw?

News / Are Christians prosecuted in Poland (and Europe in general)? [53]

Yeah, but why thrust religion into the limelight? Keep ur private views to yourself, who cares what religious denomination u r?

Tension has existed for a long time in Scotland. Gazza was fined for making a flute gesture, highly inflammatory. It works both ways, he made a Protestant gesture.

We don't need Christian parades. I don't wanna know if sb is Catholic or Protestant or otherwise. That's their private belief which shouldn't touch on the public domain.

Do u really think Muslims or Hindus are more accepted in Europe? As for Rocco, he has VERY religious views as u said. An instant turnoff.

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

Ruch NS is fairly sizeable in Poland too. Groups like Honor popularised it. Actually, many skinheads in Poland follow this movement.

Sorry, these people are not German.

Law / Commendable attitude to certification of Polish products [9]

Many local producers can continue producing their ice-cream or whatever it is they produce. The EU's prime objective isn't to force such companies underground. I agree that, on some occasions, intervention can be unwarranted but they need to maintain certain standards and strive for harmonisation.

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

Developed or not, people can still be brainwashed by crafty manipulation.

History / Polish - Soviet Brotherhood in Arms. [35]

Yeah, and Mr Lech Kaczyński is not gonna be seen in a show of solidarity with Medveded and Putin. He is still pursuing Lech Wałesa, even tho Wałesa has come through some arduous court battles triumphant.

By all means, go and drink with some Russians and feel some sort of solidarity. Like a high or a buzz, the effect doesn't last.

Travel / Misconceptions of tourists about Poland [14]

The temperature is one of them. Many see Poland as a freezing country. Yes, in 2005 that was very true but it's not that bad. It's almost October now and the forecast is for relatively warm weather. Poland is not like parts of Russia, Omsk or Novosibirsk for example.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]

The Roosevelt files are not an accurate portrayal of the truth tho. What goes into some archives is hand picked. Roosevelt acquiesced to Russian demands, he was not the pro-Polish altruist that he is sometimes depicted as

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

Exactly. It's fine commenting with the bravery of being out of range. Radical regimes take radical measures and the fear factor was high. People voted for ideals as Daisy said Luki.

There were many who went along with Hitler's convincing speeches. Trust me, that phenomenon was not confined solely to Germany, by no means.

History / Polish - Soviet Brotherhood in Arms. [35]

The Russians championed communism for sure. The tie is inextricable. The problem is, the gulf is so entrenched now that we rely on the good judgment of people to see that there are commonalities. There must be identification of common ground. I live in Poland and I think that hatred has been etched into the psyche of the many. Hatred is more of an emotional response than a rational one tho.

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

It was a REGIME £ukasz. A killing machine. Because they were NAZIS. There were those who supported Nazi ideals, whether they be Scottish, Hungarian or whatever. Nazi sympathisers. Not just Germans.

Look at Germans after the war, under different direct influence. They reviled what the Nazis did. People don't change that quickly, they deplored it b4.

U can subclassify people within a country in many ways, here is no exception.

Exactly Boat, different times bring different attitudes and those insightful enough can see their mistakes.

Sorry for the 'shouting'

History / Why we talk about Nazis not Germans [138]

This is ridiculous £ukasz, exactly what I have argued against. This is what breeds hatred and contempt.

I'm sorry, I don't and won't hold the Germans to account for the Holocaust. Do all Poles vote for LPR or other right-wing factions (radical too)? Of course not. But are they still Poles? Yes.

Hitler brainwashed a nation, a classic example of the power of propaganda. The full extent of his plans were not laid out for all to see at that time. If a monster was in the making, people should have reacted sooner by reading between the lines.

U didn't live in those times £ukasz, u don't know the full picture

History / Polish - Soviet Brotherhood in Arms. [35]

Listen to Arkona, u will hear the glorification and passion of what it means to be Slavic. As a Celt, I like this music. It has soul and drive.

youtube.com/watch?v=lpve39LKuEk&feature=related Śiła Slavnih

Look for commonalities, not divisions!!

UK, Ireland / Integrating Polish people into the British society [150]

Variety is the spice of life

History / Polish - Soviet Brotherhood in Arms. [35]

Crow is conspicuous by his absence. No Slava's, no Slavic Union addresses, nothing. Is he saving himself for yet another outburst?

UK, Ireland / Integrating Polish people into the British society [150]

I agree. U have to balance and juggle priorities. Cutting the bin rounds to once a fortnight is hardly acceptable. And Brits, as the primary taxpayers, should come first.

However, money seems to pop up in strange places. We never truly know just how much is in circulation. Hard factual statistics are hard to come by.

I think the fact remains that Britain still has a culture where top brass earn way too much and mismanage local govt funds. Sad but true!!

UK, Ireland / Integrating Polish people into the British society [150]

I agree that they should pay for their own lessons but that doesn't change the fact that free courses FOR THEM exist. OK, maybe some of their tax goes towards it.

It's a sign that the British govt believes they are a worthy investment.

Language / How do you say "give me a kiss" in Polish [53]

Daj buzi is the imperative. Do mi buzi is Silesian, using the future

U could just say buzi with the right intonation, implying that u want a kiss