News / Russian court refuses to hear Poland massacre case [25]

FYI- from Russian news


russiatoday.ru/news/news/27244

News / Putin for Polish president? [69]


Are you sure you want people to prey Putin. OK then open the cage. Remember group it was Constantine's that told you to do it.

Life / XBOX LIVE in Poland? [13]


No way, You mean I didn't just win the war with Tom Clancy?

Life / XBOX LIVE in Poland? [13]

My son has xbox live and it's $50. per year. I have PS3 and it's free for live.

News / Putin for Polish president? [69]


This is what used to be said about lady's that were in abuse relationships. How sad for the Russian citizens.

News / Poland: the 51st state of America [119]

USA needs to remember what they stand for.

In 1969, how did he know... good old Red.

Some of you may remember him but he passed away possibly before some of you were born. Red Skelton was a good & funny man. He also ended every show by saying, 'GOOD NIGHT AND GOD BLESS'. Listen to the end of this. It is something he said 38 years ago.

It's very important that you listen to the very end!! Eerie! Take a moment and listen to it (from 1969). How would he have known that this is what is happening? Click on the link, and turn your sound on.

patriotfiles.org/Pledge.htm

News / Russian court refuses to hear Poland massacre case [25]


Not mad, upset. I'm beginning to think Russian's have been asleep for the last 100 years.

Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin currently leads the candidate list in an internet poll of greatest Russians of all time, dismaying
historians, reports said Tuesday.

The poll, which runs on the website nameofrussia.ru. till
September, threatens to become a disgrace, Russian media commented.

'The people simply cannot know the truth,' the head of the Institute of Russian History, Vladimir Lavrov, told the internet newspaper website Gazeta.ru in Moscow.

Lavrov criticized the portrayal of Stalin in school text books as a
hero.

Stalin, who came from Georgia, is generally regarded as the one of history's worst dictators, responsible for the mass murder of millions during his 30-year reign up to his death in 1953.

The poll has been organized by state television channel Rossiya and lists 50 candidates.

Already 1.3 million people have voted, with singer Vladimir Visocki in second place and communist revolutionary Lenin in third.

monstersandcritics. com/news/ europe/news/ article_1415671. php/Stalin_leads_ internet_ poll_of_greatest _Russian_ heroes

News / Russian court refuses to hear Poland massacre case [25]


And yet by the actions they take, this is what they are doing to themselves.

News / What American Foreign Polices towards Poland would you Change? [11]


Many already think of Poland as not friends but family. Poland needs and USA needs aside, mutual respect for belief system. Poland has always fought to be able to live like the USA, independence and freedom for the citizens.

News / Poland: the 51st state of America [119]


IMO health and safety are rather important to Polish. Cheap is also not how I would define Polish. We are hard workers that do an honest days work for an honest pay.

I think this refers to Poland merging with the States vs. Polish coming to live in the States. IMO this would assure Poland staying independent.

News / Putin for Polish president? [69]

There have been sinister jokes about Putin's administration in the 21st century, too. In one, the ghost of Stalin appears to Putin in a dream and advises him to shoot all his inefficient officials and paint the walls blue.


Taken from:

telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/07/05/bolew105.xml

Elaine Feinstein reviews Hammer and Tickle by Ben Lewis

News / Poland: the 51st state of America [119]


Good point and I feel the reason for this is many who fought for free Poland could not return when communism took over. I wonder what life would have been like for the ones that lost family to Soviets?

News / Putin for Polish president? [69]


I 2nd that and while Putin is moving to Poland we can get the Bush's moved into the Kremlin. LOL

History / Jews-Officers in the Polish Armed Forces 1939-1945 [52]


A crime is a crime, should our faith make us less guilty?

History / Jews-Officers in the Polish Armed Forces 1939-1945 [52]

Tensions Mount Over Lithuanian Probe

By Lana Gersten 
and Marc Perelman
Wed. Jul 02, 2008

A meeting between Jewish communal officials and Lithuania's prime minister did not dispel increasing tension over Lithuania's investigation into alleged war crimes committed by Jewish partisans during World War II.

During a visit to New York, Lithuanian Prime Minister Gediminas Kirkilas made stops at both the American Jewish Committee and the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research. At both places, he was grilled on a current judicial probe in which three Jewish partisans, all of whom fought with the Red Army's anti-Nazi resistance movement, are being questioned.

"The murderers are now becoming national heroes," Arad told the Forward, "and we, the few surviving victims who took up arms and fought the murderers, are being under investigation as criminals."

forward.com/articles/13704

News / Father Rydzyk In the News Again [28]

Why is it the Jewish are so concerned with Poland's priests vs. say US or Britian priests.,

Today in Iraq Catholic's are hiding underground to follow faith and here Poland should be told by Jewish what they can and can't say. Maybe it's time the Catholic's start editing or auditing the Jewish church's. Holocaust funds disappearing as we speak?

Sorry if I offend Jewish but I am so sick of them telling Poland
what to do. Yet look at Israel, seems they would have enough in their own backyards without constantly running to Polands.

What's that saying about glass house's or maybe spike in your eye. lol

what is the difference between a Catholic and a Protestant

One kneel's to pray (Catholic) while the other does not, one can have Jesus on the cross the other does not. Really they are the same.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


This was 1919-20 and the Soviets lost.


Sometime when you really want to learn the truth, go to Roosevelt files and read the letters between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin.
search.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/cgi-bin/htsearch

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


We will never know, will we? You seem to think leaving Poland to "Communism" with millions of people losing a country in the hands of a barbaric murdering dictator is insignificant. WW2 killing of Polish did not end with the war. Polands military is listed 4th in the line up, yet from your post you sound as if it was OK to use them and in the end thrown them to the curb.

You also assume Stalin would have the money and power to fight USA, Britian and Poland. Lets see USA gave money and supplies to keep them in the game, stop this and turn the tables I can't see Stalin going to very far. Not to mention Nazi's still standing on the sidelines waiting to see how far Stalin could go.


yes I am, each person that fought served a "crucial role". Each life that was taken was an important person reguardless of where they were from. Lets see if Poland did not take the first blow from Nazi and Soviets combined what others would have been up against?

Sadly the outcome was differant for Poland as in the end they were shafted.


We saw this as Poland was attacked and were on there own yet even after this follow the war and Poland fought from start to finish on all fronts.


Why was it Stalin's "Uncle Joe" who decided if your allies, "Polish military" received help?

FYI this is 1919-20

It was Poland that attacked Soviets first. Why are you always protecting Soviets? Good thing Poland won as Lenin would have continued throughout Europe.

FYI After minor conflicts in 1919, in April 1920 a Polish force invaded Ukraine, took Kiev in May. The Soviet Red Army launched a counteroffensive and reached the Vistula near Warsaw in August 1920, where they were defeated by the Poles (Miracle of the Vistula). A truce was signed in September, the Treaty of Riga (March 1921) ended the war. The Polish forces suffered c. 25,000 fatalities, the Russian forces c.105,000.

zum.de/whkmla/military/betwwars/russopol19191921.html

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


Or it happens to their country.


I want to remind you of 1920 and Polish being able to take care of Soviets on there own. Oh thats right they didn't say ask first.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]

On the 90th Anniversary of the infamous October Revolution in 1917, here's a piece of truth shredding the cover of lies scattered by the communist over the years.

This documentary originally called "Edward Griffin - The Truth About Communism" and features:

- An introduction by an eighty years old Alexander Kerensky, the first President of the Russia post-Tsarist Regime that was ousted by Communist in October.

- Narrator of this is Ronald Reagan.

- Documentary footage of the events, since Russian revolution to the Cold War. Special interest on the Spanish Revolution too

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


Ouch.


So you are saying this takeover was known prior to WW2?


What is the meaning of allies? Polish were on the same team. I fear the war would have turned out very differant for Brits had the Polish not covered your back, like they said they would. With the USA/Brits and Poland all defending each other Stalin would have had to back off. Polish could have gone home to their country, they did not need a Soviet dictator to take control.


Yes, if it was England vs. Poland think of how you would feel if USA/Poland said Stalin was better able to take over your people?

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


Internal Security Corps, under the watchful eye of the KGB, The deployment of the KBW during the October crisis was of particular importance because it was the first time since World War II that Poland refused to accept blindly the mandates of her Soviet masters and, instead, followed her instincts as a nation of the brink of freedom. At the conclusion of the Second World War, the Soviets brought a very different kind of occupation to Poland. The Soviet occupation of Poland exceeded simple control by traditional military forces. In order to insure unquestioned compliance with communist doctrine, Stalin authorized the development of a secret police organization in Poland. This organization, advised and led by seasoned Soviet State Security (KGB) personnel, was made up of Polish citizens whose loyalty to Marxist ideology was beyond reproach. Soviet manipulation of this organization seemed to negate the already remote possibility of forming any sort of alliance which would pose a direct or indirect threat to the Soviet control of Poland.

stinet.dtic.mil/oai/oaiverb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&ident ifier=ADA167735

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]

[quote=isthatu2]plenty of Poles were satisfied with,or activly supportive of the status quo in the post war period.

What ones are you referring to? They went along and did what they had to in order to survive. Poland's miliary could not go back to Poland as they were enimies of the state and to be killed.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]



noimmigration going to store.


The files I refer to are from the full term and org. documents between all parties.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


I will find the conversation in the Roosevelt Musuem files.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


Everyone knew Stalin's true colors and when Katyn was uncovered, allies should have regrouped. There's safety in numbers.

Why was Stalin even asked if Poland could recieve assistance? Poland was an allie and USA/Brits never should have asked. IMO They should have just helped. Remember Stalin was in need of air support and supplies asking USA for help. In the Presidential notes when the planes from the USA were to be used for Soviets one question was asked prior to granting Stalin's request, What is in Sibera? This question was neven given in reply as stipulated, yet the planes flew over Stalin's concentration camps.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


I guess boycotting and showing rage toward Stalin's behavior would have helped vs. celebrating in a festive parade. Cold War was US saying this is not what you said you were doing.

Lets face it Polish were screwed. Even if the US / Britian wanted to help Poland when they saw what Stalin had done, they had already given him to much power.

I don't want to incinuate Brit's did not fight a tough battle. IMO they never should have made a pact with Poland and given them a false sense of security from the get go.


Say what, in the west the real war was Jewish/Nazi and no others. Holocaust has replaced history with biased version. Poland was the only one to accept Jewish and let them set up their own area's, schools ect...

I wanted to add, "Getto" was not a negitive prior to WW2. It was used like community. Negitive was due to what happened in this area. Jewish had their own community and this is what they wanted. Schooling was not free in Poland for anyone. Each family paid for the ones that attended. The real issue's with Polish/Jewish relation developed due to Jewish no longer being happy to be part of Poland. They wanted their own country within Poland and Poland said no.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


Maybe actions of Soviets and Nazi's would be closer to the truth.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]

Great points, I just wanted to add, the attack on Polands people did not end when the war did.

History / Are Germans going to pay for WW2? [180]


A book, lol. If this accusation were fact one thing I know is the Jewish would be a wee bit more vocal than your one book.


I am in shock over your non educated, biased bs post. Now you say you are Poland's savior. Then you did a great f'en job seeing as how you gave what we fought for "Poland" to Communism/Stalin.

Seems to me Poland, even after fighting Nazi invasion without promised support, still covered your but*'s pretty darn good.


Maybe it's due to the fact Polish know Germany took responsability and althought compensation is still lacking it is more than Soviets have done.