UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

Aberdeen fans are pretty rough when they go abroad, Szkotja. There are enough instances of mindless stupidity to give US a reputation. However, as Vincent said, the media tends to cover English fans more.

Although I tend to find that Scots are more cultured when travelling, there is evidence to the contrary.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

I gather that they have really toned it down and are calm at English football matches, time means. I just have bad recollections of English fans abroad, ripping stuff apart and needing the big water tanks to disperse them. There were more organised gangs, the firms. Nowadays it's a more mellow scene right enough.

I have heard a couple of stories about Scots in Kraków and I can imagine them being as rowdy as people said. My Scottish friend (from this city) was there at that time and he was ashamed. There are plenty of Scottish wan*ers too. In fact, a lot!! Mostly Rangers fans I might add!

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

Well, it's hard to say either way. It's not the kind of thing that you compile stats on, it's more about hearsay.

I've just heard many more tales about English folk doing it but it's another question if they are true or not. Football fans more so. Normal folk? Hard to say.

Maybe there's a shortage of good public toilets in Manchester ;0 ;)

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

Those fans were Unionists with close ties to Chelsea's hooligans. There was a story ran on that with them drinking together. They are Scottish by birth only in my eyes.

Time means, I'm not like that. I agreed with a certain forum member to spice it up and I guess he'll be doing the same elsewhere. I don't mean the sort of flames that get the Mods banning people, I just mean provoking discussion. I do the same in class when my students are listless and inactive.

The truthful position is that some are bad in some country and some aren't. I have English friends and, like PF member mephias said, I tend to judge by person and not nationality.

Any 'observations' I have made, I can always back them up. I'm not a troller and can say that I like the vast majority of English PF members here.

Maybe I should have used more wink marks ;) ;)

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

Hmm...I do hope you are talking about the lassies (ladies) ;) ;)

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

They weren't doing that again, were they? ;)

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

They probably found their stingy brothers there :) The Tartan Army likes to dance and mingle with others.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

Maybe, Shelley, but we tend to travel better. We tend to mix well with foreigners which is more than can be said for some English folk. Just compare the Tartan Army and English fans abroad.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

I was just answering the thread. Many Scots are just as bad.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

What about them indeed? ;) ;)

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

True, I can't disagree with that. Stupidity knows no national boundaries.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

It isn't the case that Brits do such things because it's Poland. They do the same in Spain and their islands. Turkey too. I saw the potential for the English guys to do that in Japan but they were under strict orders not too. Being caught being disrespectful was an instant sacking, not to mention dealing with the firm Japanese police.

English tossers need to learn to get a grip and learn to handle their drink. Kraków is a pretty cultured place and they need to get with the vibe of the place.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

Poland has exported some quality workers but the consensus is that it was the dregs of society that abandoned ship and fled for the shores of relief. This makes some Poles here mad in that they give Poles a bad rep.

As for any English who tried desecrating Scottish monuments by puking or pissing on them, they'd likely get a good hiding. Poles show more restraint here.

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

You might even meet some black Brazilians in there, McCoy ;) ;)

I hope you weren't referring to the person who picks up the soap ;) ;)

I really don't miss the laddish culture of the UK. Boorish crap!

UK, Ireland / English tossers give Brits a bad name in Poland [139]

How about a clay pigeon? ;0 ;) I wonder how they taste :(

It's sad to see all the yobbos coming across. My friend's bro is having a do in June next year and I told him to behave himself. The English tend to be worse though, more nationalistic but I don't like to generalise too much. It's just based on observation.

Brits aren't seen that well by many Poles generally. Richer? Yes Smarter? No

Law / Marriage Procedure in Poland [56]

Aha, ok, that's news to me but nevermind :) I'll get my parents to change my birth certificate and the US authorities to somehow recognise me as an American.

I've just undertaken the process of marriage in Poland, it'll be 4 weeks on Saturday.

I don't remember asking you a goddamn thing ;) ;) (Pulp Fiction)

Law / Marriage Procedure in Poland [56]

Not in any civilised country I know of, nomad. Witnesses attest to the consummation of marriage and you can't circumvent that, it just is.

Tell me, what use is a marriage without any vows? It's the whole point, to solemnly declare and affirm your commitment to your partner.

I suggest getting married to a horse, nomad. See how you go and be sure to send me a postcard from the village honeymoon ;) ;)

Law / Marriage Procedure in Poland [56]

Thanks, Szarly, much appreciated! The kid is for later, it likely won't be delivered until 2011 but I won't discuss this too much on an open forum.

Law / Marriage Procedure in Poland [56]

Vows are obligatory of course. There CAN BE no opt-out because you are entering into special promises. I had a civil ceremony as neither my wife nor I are Catholics.

There must be witnesses as it's a procedural requirement. You can always enter a sham marriage if you want but I'd guard against it.

Life / IS IT MY NAME DAY IN POLAND TODAY....? [73]

It's quite a nice touch to have a day like that. It gives some meaning to the process of choosing. It's a classic Polish tradition, one extra special day.

Law / Marriage Procedure in Poland [56]

The vows are really short, only 4 lines. It's over before it's started, really. Nothing to worry about.

Oh, thanks Chris. Nah, no small talk. I kept my distance before going into the room and going through with it.

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

That's the downside of the procedure. Things can go wrong but it's better to get it done legally when raped as it's a damn sight worse when done by non-professionals.

UK, Ireland / English people attitude towards Poles? [761]

BE, again that's our problem and not that of the Poles. I keep saying it, they are just using their options. Also, it applies to Brits too. I was talking by FB to my Scottish friend. He was telling me how the benefits system now works and he is appalled to see how much of a nanny state we have become. At a deeper level, I can see where they are heading. We are the government and we will protect you. It allows a more hands-on role for our government.

Also, let solid and verified stats speak for themselves. I'm generally sceptical of stats but if they are compiled officially and confirmed then we should go with those. I'm quite certain that they will dispel the myth that the Poles are scroungers. Some may scrounge, yes, but the majority are there to work and contribute.

Another aspect is culture. Poland doesn't have a very well-developed benefits system as it lays the emphasis on other forms of help such as MOPS. They give peanuts, little more than beer money so it doesn't pay to explore that option. Besides, there are various criteria which they must meet.

As a Brit, I was privy to all the crap and the stigma attached to seeking benefits. As an interim measure, benefits are very useful and shouldn't be downplayed.

Life / IS IT MY NAME DAY IN POLAND TODAY....? [73]

Don't forget that here on PF there is an option in the top-right hand corner before you log on which shows whose name day it is.

Sean never comes up ;) ;) ;)

Law / Marriage Procedure in Poland [56]

Thanks, k98_man! Memorise to capture the sense of the words but don't implant it too deeply. The Registrar changed the text and I was already nervous so I had to just get into the moment and focus. It depends on your level of Polish really. I deemed mine to be good enough but it is a critical moment. Short as it is, most non-Poles should seek out the services of a translator. The most important thing is that the Registrar can see that you understand and that you say those words solemnly.

History / What would Europe look like with Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian Commonwealth today [209]

Gulags for critics and gulasz for the hungry :) A dictatorship with a free press for the dictator, yes. Putin virtually had a monopoly over press content when he was leader (he's still de facto leader, not de jure).

Life / Where do you live in Poland? [19]

Tak się mowi, frd :) Nah, Gliwice is fine, it's just going through a grey phase at the moment.

Life / Where do you live in Poland? [19]

Well, I know better than to comment about other women on an open forum and one which my wife browses so, no comment :)

I live in Gliwice, a city with some history and has enough for my needs. The lack of abundant options is actually a good thing, it keeps me out of trouble!

Law / Marriage Procedure in Poland [56]

The vows are similar. You solemnly declare that, upon entering the relationship of marriage, that you will do everything in your power to make the marriage happy, agreeable and lasting.

Life / Where do you live in Poland? [19]

I just meant the look with the big glasses, her pose and the way she wears her hair. As an actress, she is actually quite pretty :)