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14 Oct 2008
Study / University in Poland is too easy [68]

University in Poland is sooo easy !!

In Gdansk we have the Higher School of Tourism and Hotel Industry (so called 'Hollywood') and University of Technology pretty close to each other. When you compare how girls look like in these two places then you will know where they have enough time. So, from your perspective studies in Poland might look easy indeed.
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12 Oct 2008
News / POLISH PRESIDENT & PM ACTING LIKE SPOILED BRATS [15]

People vote for them based on policies, inter alia.

People vote for colorful pictures, they have little idea about policies.

Come on Lesser, monarchs aren't corrupt in any way? They are exemplars of morality?

How often do you hear about private firm owners accepting bribes against interest of this company? Somehow this is always those directors of state owned companies doing so. The same analogy you can apply to monarchs on one side and 'democratic' politicians or dictators on the other side.

Morality is other question.
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7 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

12 deaths by falling pianos within a year...maybe pianos should be banned

You see, this is hardly possible that 12 innocent people would executed in civilized countries within a year. It appears that falling pianos are even more dangerous.

One could mention a car. When we allow to produce cars we are fully aware that many people will be killed in road accidents. However we don't think about banning cars.

No person MUST suffer the death penalty

No person MUST commit awful crimes.
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7 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

no didn't miss your point because i'm quite sure it doesn't exist on this note. I'll reiterate my question, are those specialists a part of society or not? if they are then my original question remains valid without need of interpretation.

So you refuse to acknowledge that society consist from people who have different skills and capabilities? All of them have some role in the society. people are not the same.

Great, i'm glad you've come to a conclusion, now why is it called the justice system?

This is justice system of the state. State is not obligated to fulfill all wet dreams any of majority or minority.

well you felt competent enough to make the statement that begged the question so i'm wondering if you were competent enough then...

One need to know where is the end of his competences in certain areas.

so, then, according to you, if a convicted criminal receives a punishment, then after that punishment is served in whatever way, the main lesson they can then take from it all is that it's best not to get caught should they endeavor to commit another crime?

This is private problem of criminal, whether change or not. I cannot interfere and nobody should unless criminal want (of course taxpayer money should not be involved). If such person would commit another serious crime then suppose he would never be free anymore. Law should be more severe to recidivists, this is practiced.
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7 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

?? I don't get it. The fact that someone may be wrongly executed is already a strong argument against the death penalty.

So in your opinion undoubted possibility that piano might fell on your head should lead us to conclusion that production of pianos should be stopped?
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7 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

I see, so this education system doesn't affect the victim or society but those occupying the highest posts are best entrusted to decide what a rapist receive as "punishment." ok

It seems to me that you missed my point. Only relatively small group of people have specialist education in this direction. While those occupying the highest posts shoudl be the best. Of course, I oppose politically motivated nominations.

ok, that's your opinion (and a might conflicting one if i've interpreted you correctly) but that's not the question i posed.

Victim would be more justified to decide than society without any doubt.

exactly what function does one who has "the highest post" fulfill and how does that seperate them from society?

I'm not competent enough to answer to such detailed question. They should be a specialist on these matters while society is incompetent from its nature. Only individuals can be competent.

So i ask you again, what's the point of a punishment, i mean, after it's been given and served or performed or inflicted or whatever, what's the point in it?

State inform everybody that some behavior wont be tolerated. If a person ignore this then he/she will be punished. Punishment should be appreciated to committed crime. As I write earlier, there should beno deeper sense. This is my opinion.
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7 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Aha, so it must be highly educated people who can decide Lesser?

If you don't want to use unique abilities that some educated people have then perhaps we should burn universities? :) If they cannot be trusted, why to waste so much cash?

Rape is a societal problem, why marginalise people?

Flu is even more social problem, however I'm sure that if your child would be infected you would go to ask doctor. You would not consider society to be competent enough.

Many educated people have made horrible decisions for education.

I agree, you know that I oppose bureaucracy. I definitely don't consider all educated people to be smart. Standards on the universities should be higher and thus less students would be able to manage.
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7 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Which is more fair: a rape victim be free to choose the punishment or society? why?

Society? I hope that you don't suggest that I want to organize referendum on this issue. Neither victim or society should decide, our education system is supposed to produce qualified specialists. Those who have the highest posts should decide.

what's the point of a punishment?

The point of punishment is to inform everybody what is the consequence of certain crime. Rules should be known before game is started.
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7 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

Do you realise that the word 'liberal' has many meanings, not only as in 'economic liberalism'?

Of course, I have some sympathy to libertarian movement. For example I criticize the EU on this forum mainly from liberal perspective, although I'm not pure libertarian.

Lesser, u r about as liberal as Thatcher was. U r a right-winger with leanings off the edge of the right end of the spectrum. U r about to fall.

Yes I'm rightist, conservative-liberal. I think that I'm more conservative than Thatcher.

He just loves labels.

There is no emotions in political labeling on my side. You see in other topic I have argument with some poster when I rejected claim that Jaruzelski was hard-line communist. I may assure you that I don't feel any sympathy to Jaruzelski.
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7 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Regarding the orginal question, if found quilty and if the victim is alive then the victim should be free to choose the punishment for the perpetrator.

Punishment should be known before crime is committed. While execution of penalty should be stripped of any emotional reactions. Vengeance is really unhealthy.

Why should the taxpayer pay for three hots and a cot for some rapist, for the rest of his life?

I completely agree, this is unacceptable. IMO 10-20 years of Siberian labor camp would be appropriate. I'm sure that Kremlin would be happy with such practically free labor force.

Nice to see that so many people support re-establishment of death penalty but this is not proper crime IMO.

I can't say what the psychological damage of being raped is, maybe it's much worse than I believe, but I remember a few girls who claimed they were raped and talked about how their life was ruined forever, and perhaps this is true, but then I've come across some men who've been raped by other men, and they're attitude was obviously not happy, but still completely different. They were talking about it the same way they would talk about a mugging or something. I wonder if it's because female rape is so often dramatized in debates and on tv etc, whereas male on male rape is far less discussed.

This is not about any TV debates. You seems to deny true about obvious differences between men and women. Look, this claim fits to your observations perfectely.

And for everyone else who jumped on the "death penalty band waggon". If you punish someone with death and you get it wrong. It can't be rectified.

I don't support death penalty for rapists, however your argument is weak. In highly civilized countries courts are extremely wary. One could also be worried about piano which might fell on him everyday.

Now for all you kids who say "kill for rape" what if its a 16 years old getting drunk ? What if a man does it in a drunken desperate stupor to his ex wife ?

This is not the question who is a predator. Penalty should simply be appropriate to committed crimes.

May I ask what, in your opinion, is the point of imprisonment, not just for rapists but in general?

Might, I answer the question. Imprisonment is just a punishment, there should not be any deeper sense.
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7 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

Well, actually my hobby is to read political books, thus I'm very accurate as far as political labels are concentrated. Vast majority of people using political labels without any sense and thus it is hard to communicate with them effectively.

I read many your posts and you seems to be leftist. For sure not a liberal. Well, some people talk about liberal-left but leftists are liberal only 'od pasa w dół'. :)

PLEASE Lesser, comment on the following to see how u damage people more by labelling them and giving them complexes and mind-changing treatments like ECT.

Actually I'm not interested in their private life. When I see inaccurate comments then try to correct them. I don't think that this is necessary to lie to make somebody feel better, this is short-sighted strategy.

I would like to point out that 'sin' is not a scientific term. You might join to some churches where sins are defined differently, you are free and membership in the CC is voluntary.

I am Catholic and I am moving to Poland. Catholic Church is going to be stronger ^^

Welcome, this is immigration policy that I like. :)

Yeah, I just looked it up. Nobody ever killed anyone during crusades according to the rules of Christian mercy and the fifth commandment..

Don't forget about ecumenical masses.

If somebody want to read something on this subject I recommend Balard and Madden.

I think the appoinment of the new Pope stuck in the craws of many Poles.

He seems to be better than JPII IMO.
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5 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Catechism of the CC is the official stand, like it or not. End of discussion.

Yes, little battles in Ireland show that.

I'm not an expert from NI but I'm sure that those who know more would reject your judgment.
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5 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

I explain my point calmly without 'personal travels', using arguments.

Rydzyk spread socialistic message that I don't support. However you Seanus should be happy, you are socialist after all.
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5 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Seanus, what is your point? You wanted official stand, I provided it to you. It close this discussion with is off-topic anyway.

You claim that everything in this world should be seen through the eye's of a fanatic Catholic.

Of course Catholics are not fanatic, you simply don't bother to learn more. Most of the stances and politics of the CC can be successfully defended without referring to Bible as you suggest.
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5 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

No i don't consider it a virtue but you have to look at my original post a little more closely. It's the fact that (correct me if i'm wrong) the new testament proclaims poverty to be a virtue yet the church doesn't walk that line, that's where my criticism lays.

I'm glad that you don't consider poverty to be virtue. I did not expect other answer. Simply I provoked you to elaborate, because this post could provoke some people to write rubbish.

While the parable of the talents is very capitalistic.

Where did i write that I encouraged them to take a step back in time and reject technology?

People who live in poverty have very reduced contact with modern technologies. Simple conclusion.

Nonetheless I question your position. I doubt wheter a priest having an iphone or driving instead of taking public transport (you know like a lot in the country do) somehow allows them to understand people's problems much more than if the opposite were true.

These are details which help them in their mission. Everybody ask yourself whether you prefer public transport or car and why. Sometimes it is indeed more useful to use public transport but I think that I don't need to explain how much cars help us.

Human nature is rather timeless and whatever religion seeks to cure or control isn't rooted in modern machinery.

Fortunately the Catholic Church fully respect separation from the state.

Look lesser, I don't know if you've purposely been trying to target me but this is getting rather repetitious for me and fruitless for you (if your goal has been to prove a point). Hey if you catch me on something inconsistent then hats off to you and a big "thanks" for helping me see the light but you've yet to do so and generally just muddle things up so at least be more critical of what you write than what i do.

Don't be so self-centric, I regularly comment posts of many other posters as well. Nothing personal, in the internet forums expect also people who disagree with you on some issues. After all, you made some good points, much more than many other posters. If somebody would help me to understand that I'm wrong on some issues, I would be only glad to him. Otherwise you at least learn how other people see something from different perspective.

It's how he gets his money that For4

So then you question for example how I spend my money. If I donate then this is only my problem.

You don't sound very tolerant to me.
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5 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

This is probably from the same article as u swiped Lesser. This is fanatacism and some of the worst argumentation I have seen. Merely adhering to the standards laid down in the Bible is a sign of a weak-minded individual. Informed consent replaced moral highgroundism a long time ago.

You are entitled to your opinion, however we will never agree.

Maybe u should go rapping on the doors of homosexual people and inform them of the need to avoid 'sin' and see what response you get.

Terror in prevention, this is leftist method that I despise.

Get ur head out of a book and into reality.

I love to read books, I advise this to you too. You would expand you horizons...
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5 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

Ooh - accusing Switezianka of being uneducated? Not wise.

Perhaps, just whom were the educators? :)

Not going to church has spared me listening to gibberish that it preaches. It teaches you to be a victim, it teaches weakness, turning the other cheek.

Personally I'm not used to turn other cheek as well as the vast majority of people. So if anything produce weak people this is not the church (which actually helped to end the communist period in our part of the world and not only) but welfare state. If bloody communist regime would take over Sweden and international community would ignore this fact, you could be sure that this would be very long dictate.

On other hand, maybe this is good that Vatican doesn't add fuel to the flames, because gregarious instinct of the masses is a really bad adviser.

Still, I don't know what did you do for Poland... Don't be shy.

What irks me about the RC faith here is that you have these priests who are supposed to be messengers of god, doing what the apostles were supposed to have been doing, preaching the word of jesus who they view as god and how are they living? Well they certainly haven't taken any vows of poverty.

Why do you think that poverty is a virtue? Sounds very socialist to me, 'if not poor then cannot be trusted'. While in fact priests are neither poor or rich. They are living in modern world and rejection of technological achievement would not help them to understand problems of our generation.

Not a priest in a BMW.

Please stop... Why do you want to tell somebody what to do with his money?
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4 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

I don't really know what the future holds but I do know that people should spend less time at church praying for miracles and get off their asses and do something about country's problems instead running away from them.

I assume that you don't attend masses.

1. What did you do for Poland?
2. How much advantage of one hour weekly (over church-going Catholics) helped you in your achievements?
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4 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

I however do. And as for your 'left media' comment, don't the left have a right to their opinion too.

Let them speak out, I'm very liberal. However your comment sounds strange, you care so much about future of left-wing media while this ideology control mainstream media since 1989 (I'm so kind to ignore PRL). You don't find it strange than in such conservative society, so long center-right media could not reach mainstream? Ideological mouthpiece (GW) of very small party (UD) strangely happened to be the largest and practically the only daily in whole Poland? Of course they were supposed to represent whole 'anti-communist opposition'.

So often people attribute an non-ontological viewpoint to people's political stance whereas in reality their world-view derives from a more sophisticated dialectic?

In my opinion behind the world-view of majority there is no any sophisticated dialectic (I don't like to use this word in Hegelian sense), just populist slogans.

Polish church is pro

Church is international and have hierarchic structure. I don't deny that some people always bring national bias but they have no clue. While even people who share similar views often disagree about many issues. The anti-liberal idea of total agreement belong rather to leftist totalitarianism.

Don't try to discuss using theoretical arguments, because theoretically Christians are merciful and practically they organized crusades.

Learn about crusades before commenting...
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3 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Your link proofs nothing on the mentioned subject. I'm going to bed, perhaps tomorrow I will find a time to provide here some official stand.
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3 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

Lesser, u r also wrong. The CC DOESN'T think that the act of homosexual sex, sodomy, is a sin now. It was considered as such but it changed. Check it out.

I checked in wikipedia and nothing changed. I would heard about such change for sure.

Marriage is a process of putting 2 people together formally.

You are in denial...

U r living in the Stone Age too. I wish I could wind the clock forward to see how u'd be. I'd probably die laughing

I'm simply too smart to accept everything hiding behind supposed 'progress'. Certainly not everything that some people deems to be progressive is in fact progressive.
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3 Oct 2008
News / Should rape carry a life sentence in Poland? [146]

British are not going to change law in our country.

The crime was committed in the UK, so their law should be applied. He should be in British prison. Initiative of the EU bureaucrats caused this ridiculous mess.

It is a SIN to be gay, wtf?

According to the CC, homosexual act is a sin, not homosexuality itself.

Look at America, they have started to allow gay marriages.

Marriage is a relationship of man and woman by definition. You need to figure out some new word to call permanent relationship between people of the same sex.

Are they behind? Doesn't their argumentation convince u?

Behind what? Behind the times? "Times" happens to be more or less ugly from time to time. My above comment overthrow their argumentation.
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3 Oct 2008
News / What is the future of Catholic church in Poland. [154]

You show a good example of how Poles hate other Religions, but yet, you're country was built on tolerance? I dont get it?

I don' hate other religions, actually I support pan-religious political platform to counter destructive leftism.