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The Battle of Vienna - Poland helped save Europe [57]
Rubbish, we were in the position of Germany from 1400s to 1650s, thats a quarter of millenium of absolutely unchallenged power, the worst we did was mess up a few Moscow districts and abuse Ukrainians a bit.
No, the destructivity grew with the technology and the industrializations.
Former local wars became world wars with bombs who could kill thousands at once....but war is war!
Ask the Balkans what they think about the civilizations of their turkish opressors.
(Skull tower anybody?)
Or the Inkas about their genocide or...the Carthagians against Rome...history is full of brutality and mass murder, full scale destruction, enslavement of whole peoples and genocide.
And Poland never was in the position of a big power who had the means to the will to opress and conquer on the big scale. But you did what you could (or you at least tried) with what you had.
You can't leave your polish-centric viewpoint behind, that is understandable but that doesn't makes it true.
It's not so much a question of national pride but of historical context.
For example after Rome conquered Gaul, 1 in 4 Gauls got murdered/enslaved.
But today Rome has many admirers....what would the enslaved, murdered Gauls say about that?
Rome didn't had the weapons Germany had....but if they had, do you think they wouldn't had used them?
Napoleon was a dictator who tried to conquer Europe. An alliance was build in the end to break his neck, for Europes freedom...without Poland if I remember it correctly....wheren't you buddies with Napoleon then? Even accompanying to Russia to conquer Moscow and the Russians???
Wouldn't Nappy had used every weapon he could have gotten his hands on to achieve his goal?
First you took Polish lands, then after WW1 you lost them and started WW2 to take back the lands their previous owners won back from you 29 years earlier.
Well, we just took back lands you Slavs stole from us as we didn't look....why not go even farther back! :):):)
