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From: Lviv, Ukraine/Toronto, Canada
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Nathan   
26 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

Yes, Freebird, I am referring to Polonius3. I simply found his quote in your post and used it. His post was on the other page and this is why I used yours :)
Nathan   
26 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

You are not even better, Grzegosz!

Polonius3:
- Contrary to the colonial tradition of suibjugating nations regarded as inferior, Poles have always adhered to the maxim: "For your freedom and ours", -- the belief that a fight for freedom anywhere in the world is a struggle for a free Poland;

Ukrainian Cossacks were said in Polish Sejm to "be nails that have to be cut off once in a while". No, you never regarded anyone inferior to yourself and you fought for my country's freedom as well ;););););););). My head bows to my ancestors that kicked bad your "superior" or "better" as*es, even though I see it didn't reach far enough into the future generations. You could have been so much more if you weren't "better" all the time. Please, don't make out of yourself what you are not.
Nathan   
26 Apr 2009
UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

This is for the first time I hear a cr*p like that. You worked on Ukrainian lands? Give me a f*cking break. You turned people, simple farmers into nothing. You sucked everything you could without moving a finger. Maybe, with the exception of a whip. You could do anything you wanted to the "barbarians" of Ukraine unpunished - the crown was on your side. You imposed your Catholicism by outrageous methods: people couldn't take weddings, christen their kids unless in the catholic church. Most Ukrainians then and now are Orthodox as you know. Churches were expropriated for the Catholics as well. Why do you think Ukrainian cossacks fought with you? Because they wanted to take away the bread you "raised" by your hands. My grandma told me that even in 1930s you were giving food to those who didn't have it only if they get Polish citizenship. Ukrainians called these people "melyasy" because they sold their identity for molasse. And you say that you are

We're not superior. We're just better.

. Wake up, "superiors"! History is history and different nations did different things, but to say that you are superiors or even better is simply preposterous.
Nathan   
26 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

And work in the coal mines when she's not cooking dinner.

Sokrates, I see you in the kitchen with an apron around your waist, hastily preparing dinner for the one and when she leaves to do some shopping, you quickly run to the computer to pour out every frustration against women you have or pretend to have against them. And there is not sarcasm in my world. We love to be heroes on our own fronts, killing imaginary enemies and stuff. On the real battlefield our chances are 30% or even less.

So lets ignore science

Ok. We have embryo, then it becomes foetus and after the birth we have an infant. Where along the way we have a human and removal of which will be a homicide? When there is some point, then before that - why wasn't it a human and what made it a such?

You are trying to discredit biologists now? Wow! :))

No, I don't. They are the front of our knowledge and they have many problems to solve in this real labirynth of life. But I see you are constantly avoiding a debate and real answers. I know I am ignorant, but shed some light on me , make me better, let me understand, so I can be defending your side. Please, Lesser.
Nathan   
26 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Thanks Nathan.

You are welcome, Freebird :)

I think that you need to study biology more...

Stop torturing biology, Lesser. Biologists can't still figure out whether virus is alive or dead substance and you keep on forcing us to open the books. What do they say? Why is the world still split on that issue - lack of reading? Tell me what you read that will persuade me and others in our

denial of science

I'm not saying you did. I'm asking. The reason is that you mention that there are moments where existence is worthwhile and pleasurable. So what is it about these moments that make it so?

It depends on each one of us. Each sees the sense and pleasure in existence in something different; it depends on your interests and likings.

You're kind of getting to the heart of the matter here. Who should make laws that go to the heart of ethical issues? It could be said US society condemns hitting a child as punishment. You can get in trouble for that. But who knows better? Parents or society how to discipline a child? It's really about individuals who have a strong sense of ethics and then go on to make the laws.

I think you left it open to debate, right, Samenesslove? Because who knows who is correct on moral issues and who has a strong sense of ethics. Usually those people write books and die quietly somewhere in the backyard. Politics is not their force usually. I am not defending slapping a child, but taking away this form of bringing up from occasional utilization by parents causes certain gaps in children's education. They become uncontrollable in many cases. Humanity is trying to escape its roots as an animal and make itself as something over everything. I think that school shootings in the US is partially caused by this faulty change in law.

And you use the word parents, but does that include the father as having a right to stop an abortion or to initiate one? What about having a law that says parents have a right to a choice to whip their children? What exactly is it about abortion that there should be a choice?

I personally think that both have to decide, but mother should have a final say and if she against, then it means "no".

If by "whip" you mean slapping on the butt, why not? I was slapped once by my father and it gave me a lesson for the whole life. And I am greatful for it as strange as it may seem to an American. I don't see anything wrong in it. But don't take me wrong - I am not saying beating up.

If people have no right over their own bodies and their sexual life, then why to have rights at all? Who needs freedom of speech or confessing a religion? Why should there be a choice?
Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

I think that many Muslims have more reason than you, they are not science deniers. You are typical product of public education, a complete ignorant.

Ignorant? Haha. What product are you? Religious, private school or something else. Saying ignorant just because you don't agree is funny.
Why do you stick Muslims here? If I am a product of public education than

anybody who have mere idea about biology must agree with me.

I learnt biology and I understand it and I don't agree with you. Life starts when the organism begins to function on him/herself. It is when a person takes in first breath. Until then it is a part of a woman and her body. The rest you know what I will say.
Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

I sense guilt here for being in a position where you're not suffering while others are

Complete misunderstanding. Sorry I made you miss my point. I don't have the guilt you are talking about.

Is it just the hedonistic value?

Where did I say that the life's worth in the hedonistic values?

You're looking at the exception to the rule and then making a rule for everyone so that the exception does not occur.

Who knows that better parents or society? I don't make one rule for all. You are actually making it. I am just saying that each parent has a right to decide, not society making a law.

Others can do something. Can't they?

I don't know exactly what you meant here, but if you say that child can be killed after the birth, I consider it wrong.

You propose murder in prevention and back this providing silly slogan of radical feminist groups. You discredit yourself enough.

Why do you rip off a pice of my conversation and spill it with some baseless thoughts?
Radical feminist groups? Murder in prevention? I said woman has a child in her body, it is a part of her and let her decide whatever she likes to do with it.
Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Don't say "flawed" when you don't present a contra-argument to what I said. Read also my #128. My existence is Ok, but thank you for attention.

I don't want to take nobody's right to live, but as part of the society I consider a kid a part of its mother and she should have complete right to do with it as she wishes until the kid is born. After that she can't do anything.

Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

Where is your human spirit for enduring suffering to bring about something better?

How many children would come to tell me that? How many children would be able to come up to me on gangrenated legs, swollen from hunger bellies covered in flies, or those who were tortured by their parents and these kids "succeded" in what? I don't want to take nobody's right to live, but as part of the society I consider a kid a part of its mother and she should have complete right to do with it as she wishes until the kid is born. After that she can't do anything. I don't think that existence is a pleasure. There are things in life that make this existence worthwhile and pleasurable, but in itself it is empty and senseless. You say of me that I am a misanthrope. Maybe. But maybe you never felt hunger and disease caused by lack of food and medical treatment, never saw death of bodies and minds, sufferings beyond your imagination of sitting in front of TV and watching a documentary and letting a tear run down your face and then running to pick some ice-cream from the fridge because the movie changed the balance of nutrients in your pampered body. There is no right answer to this question and each one of us is feeling the way we learnt to feel through experience.
Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
News / Non-Polish members - what knowledge does your country have about Poland? [35]

Russians REALLY have to accept the fact that vodka is a Polish invention.
You stole it from us and try to pretend that it's your national drink, but
we'll always remember that it was Poles making it first.

The only Russian invention was balalayka. That's it. One, two-strings instrument. Most sophisticated or advanced would be three strings, but not many will be able to perform on it unless completely drunk.

[quote=Torq]
vodka is a Polish invention.

I don't think you can attribute it to anyone specifically.

Besides they have vodka which is inferior to Russian and butiful girls who nevertheless are inferior to Russian girls.

I am not Russian and not Polish, but Polish women are unsurpassed in beauty on average, different story with the heart, though.
Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
News / Kaliningrad. Problem, Threat or Opportunity for Poland? [185]

Boris Jeltsin allegedly wanted to give Królewiec back to Poland,
but our government wan't interested - a big mistake IMO

Who wrote this fairytale? They wanted to give away and you didn't agree? Come on, wake up! I see a tendency of liking to bang oneself in the butt for the sake not to tell the truth because Russians are so scary - boo! Let's hide our heads in the sand and keep our butts high in the air because - boo! boo! I am scared - help me!
Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
Love / Depression and Polish Men [30]

I don't know about being depressed, but they are more likely to put their mind and soul into a relationship ( a true one, I shall add). When the break up happens, they can be unhappy about and express it.

Comparing a the western man who'd say oh, well b*tch begone, f u.

I dont think its just polish men, but all SLAVIC men.

Agree almost 100%
Nathan   
25 Apr 2009
News / Abortion - how is the Polish government going to deal with this issue? [273]

sad but true. its a male Dominate thing. wish female too were involved

Males dominate at "outside" work, but women form many of our ideas and views at home. So women have much greater influence than it seems. I don't see the reason women are not in politics in the EU. The only reason seem lack of interest on their part and not a glass ceiling as I see many present. Politics demand diplomacy, corruption, absence of feelings which I think are most women's weak side and this is why they are not as abundant there.

I consider abortion an absolute choice of those who created an embryo or fetus. If they cannot take care of the future child it is better to kill her/him now than to kill him/her slowly in constant yellings, poverty, unattention, unlove, beatings etc. In the same plain there should be an agency which will gather information on parents willing to adopt a child or those who want to have a child but cannot due to diff. reasons. So each woman that wants to get an abortion and one willing to have a child are informed on possibility of this exchange (if both parties are interested).

Laws are mainly written and voted on by men, since they are majority in the governments around the world. Scandiavian countries have a more sensible law due to a higher volume of women in the government.

Anti-abortive laws are powerful not in countries were there is more men in politics, but in those where religions have a lot to say either directly or through the minds of religiously-oriented politicians. As I noticed Poland, Spain and Ireland - powerful strongholds of Catholicism - are the ones who have the stricter abortion laws. But each should decide its own way of life. I personally consider that, for the sake of not parents but child, abortion should be allowed.
Nathan   
24 Apr 2009
News / Russia and Poland possibility of the alliance [75]

Let's live separately like friends and not like room-mates who begin to cough when you are making love. It is much more intersting to deal with one another than be forced to find out ways to solve every sneeze of a different Slav.

The House of Representatives of citizens (representative represent % of population)- `one man one voice`

So what about Slovakia and Montenegro which don't have that many people compared to some others "giants"? What will happen to their interests in the Confederation? And representatives of the states will have as much influence as much resouces of energy they possess. Or you want to introduce liberum veto # 2 which will lead the Confederation into the abyss and will make it unfunctional? Plus Russia in the democratic confederation - what is it an oxymoron? Stop unite everyone, leave communists dream on with their ideas. Let's move forward on a business basis, not some utopico-kissing-licking-brothers-forever ideas.
Nathan   
23 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

The history of humanity runs from Africa to the most remote parts of the world (relative to African continent) - Australia and Americas. Before that the places were uninhabited. Now they slowly but surely become overpopulated. People have to move in order to find a better life because it doesn't repeat twice, unfortunately or fortunately. You can keep the doors shut, but "osmosis" will find its way - either out or in. It is a question of time. We will converge eventually - there is no escape from it, unless we will move to Mars or the Moon and start from there. Overly i agree that majority feels safer in monoethnic communities whether they are black, white or blue. But can you build pressure by overpopulating the Earth and then try to resist afterwards by building borders and walls? They won't withstand and will have to come down.
Nathan   
23 Apr 2009
History / Taras Bulba - the movie [115]

This theory

This theory is called history and it is not theory at all but facts. Read and learn history.
Nathan   
22 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Listen, take the away colonial history, and you guys would still be eating each other, enslaving each other, fashioning dung huts, and basically being the Arab's play things. That's right your people were enslaved by Arabs for 14 centuries.

What would you be if there were not colonial times? I think 300 pounds and over of 60 % of US population wouldn't exit right now. US produces tons of bowel gases contaminating the world air supply and destroying ozone layer.

If some poor Mexicans pick grapes all day, are they makers of fine wine? No

Yes, they are, you lazy butt-sitter! Have you ever moved your ass in your life doign something besides carrying paper in the offices and damaging a chair by your butt?

Castanea:
Non-white culture is degenerate

I never said non whites were all degenerate

I guess I am preaching to the crickets.

I wish I was a cricket when you are talking because they have no ears.
Nathan   
22 Apr 2009
History / Taras Bulba - the movie [115]

who did Gogol mean in his novel under the word "Russian"? :) Just be honestand don't answer the question I didn't ask you.

Sasha, you know that Gogol couldn't say many things he wanted and was forced to publish a different than was intended before version of his work in order to glorify Matushku Rasieju. In his time "Russian" meant Russian and at time of Cossacks there was no such a word, because Russia didn't exist as such. There was "Rus" from Kijivan Rus' and like in case with Romanians who were so much fascinated by Roman empire that called their own country Romania, the same way Russians called later their country after the Kijivan Rus'. Of course, the replacement about which you are talking is much appreciated and more correct. I hope I didn't avoid your answer. If he used "Russian", it means he was either chronologically incorrect or censorship made him be like that.

Nathan:
Tongue is working, nice job, Sasha.
Yes, I can speak. :)) You?

It is just the way you jumped from "Bulba" to "baba" in the "#78" that I thought you have a great dexterity in certain muscles usually called diplomacy. ;)
Nathan   
22 Apr 2009
History / Taras Bulba - the movie [115]

Firstly the country was only one at that time and it was Russia. Secondly the cossacks themselves represents the population where the national verge between Russians and Ukrainians was sorta blur and in a way came to naught. They defended one country - the country where they lived.

Why do you keep on writing that ********, Sasha? Aren't you tired of constant lies like that. Ukrainian Cossacks kicked your ass on many occassions - Konotop battle of 1657 alone is worth mentioning here. Were we fighting ourselves or somebody else? Russia didn't even exist at that time - it was a Moskovite kingdom comprising a small territory around Moskow village. Existance of the embryo of your state - Russia - began a bit before pillaging of Kijiv by a Dolgorukyj's son in 12th century.

between Russians and Ukrainians was sorta blur and in a way came to naught.

"Kacapy" was a distinct name for all Russian-speaking or ones from Moskovite "kingdom". There was no "blur" whatsoever. Ukrainians fought you and for it, for their own country, you are right about that and own freedom. To name Cossack a "kacap" was a big disgrace, therefore, Russians couldn't be Cossacks at all.

Gogol was actually pro-Polish he just took an honest look.

too much of "Matushka-Rus'"-stuff which is mentioned at every turn (it's a bit exaggerated comparing to the original), also they went too far with violence having a will to monsterize Poles.

Any contradiction? I wish at least one thing to be done by Russians that could have been honest, but how is it possible if all your history is based on dishonesty and trying to turn everything around.

Are you planning to watch it in original? I liked that they didn't translate some Polish-Russian dialogues. It clearly shows lingual similarity.

P.S. The Polish actress there is indeed beautiful.

Tongue is working, nice job, Sasha.
Nathan   
20 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Non-white culture is degenerate

You are not even able to express your thoughts. They are limited to generalizations about cultures. You look at the crimes in your micro-region of the US and create an opinion about Indians, Africans, Asians etc. I lived in US for ten years and without minorities' celebrations its white culture is baseball cap, popcorn and flags everywhere (even in a toilet on a toilet paper) culture. It has no inner value, it's empty, it is invented to cover up the void. Your white culture trembles around a baseball glove like without it you can't survive. Take popcorn away and you will start shooting each other because what else you can eat in your "culture".
Nathan   
19 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

Go put on your helmet and

The primitives had no knowledge of science.

Europeans believed till 17th century that sun revolves around the Earth.
They sold indulgencies for sins and burnt, killed and raped South American nations and destroyed Aztec and Mayan legacy. Witchcraft - the last case in 1828!!!! Those knew when there is an eclipse of sun and moon long before European took fork into their dirty hands. What do know of culture? Do you think culture confines itself to gothic temples and barocco curly swirls? Culture is so much more, dear. I don't argue that many great inventions and progress came from Europe, but to say that Indians were savages, violent and stupid is preposterous and childish without acknowledgement of Europeans' atrocities. Say humans were stupid in general then at least this will have partial justice in it.

These people didn't even have a written language or the wheel.

They have it now. But they relied more on spoken language than on books which now lie dusted in your parents' closets. Wheel is not even an European invention. Mesopotamian region people invented it 3500BC, before even pyramids were there.

Go put on your helmet andcount your marbles retard.

I am European, therefore, I'll go and do it.
You are a kid :)
Nathan   
19 Apr 2009
News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

The Native Americans were not the peaceful creatures of the history books. Most were violent, stupid and savage. There are countless stories of tortures and cannibalism. We Europeans were the first to inhabit this continent. Our forebears were here at least 5,000 years before any asiatic native americans. Watch Ice Age Columbus

Blah-blah story of 5 year old child. What about Europe? Most were not violent, stupid and savage? Europe knew more wars than any other continent in the Milky Way. Our religion made more tortures than their tribal disputes ever produced. Stupid - I don't think they were more stupid than your comment about them. And the most interesting savage - we burnt people in gas chambers 50 years ago! We dropped an atomic bomb on innocent people - TWICE! in a span of few days! Women got the right to vote in the US and Europe only in the 20th century. And you say Indians were savage and stupid? Look at yourself, educated Homo sapiens. We were first in my ass on that continent.
Nathan   
17 Apr 2009
News / Racist text book for Polish schools [130]

Real Christians should have taken the following places: 5,6,7,8,9,12,16,18,19,22,23,24,26,27,30
The problem has an embedded deep Christian teachings of loving your neighbor as yourself, no matter what religion she/he confess. Correct answer would be self-sacrifice. It just depends how you look at it :)
Nathan   
17 Apr 2009
News / Polish minority abroad and minorities in Poland [71]

Salomon, I have read the article you presented, but as far as I understand, cease of giving off the land was due to the economic crisis and involved not only Polish people, but everyone. Of course, there is some advantageous policies directed towards Lithuanians, but again it is their land and they can take any laws they want within set norms.
Nathan   
16 Apr 2009
News / Polish minority abroad and minorities in Poland [71]

They simple faild as reliable parners ...

Who are they, Salomon?

The problem is that Lithuanians weren't so efficient in ethnic cleanising like Ukrainians ...

If Ukrainians were efficient in the BS you are talking about, believe, it would be quite different now. But they never did it, especially like some conquering the "Promised land".

In my opinion Poland should diversify as much as it is possible gas and oil supplies

main strategic partner should be Russia.

Funny. Diversification and singled-out partner.

Now Lithuanian government gives back the land and properties for all citizens ... avoids only this with Polish origin...

Would you supply an article, please.
Nathan   
16 Apr 2009
News / Polish minority abroad and minorities in Poland [71]

but the Poles and the Russians are not doing thoroughly well over there.

What is the problem, Sasha? Why is there always a problem? Russians are "oppressed" everywhere: In Ukraine - it is the Crimea, in the Baltic region - it is Estonia and Lithuania, in the Caucaus - it is Georgia. Why are you always "oppressed"? I am not saying it sarcastically, I just want you to explain me the reason. Thank you in advance.
Nathan   
16 Apr 2009
News / Polish minority abroad and minorities in Poland [71]

Salomon, what in hell are you talking about? Again freaking Russian propoganda about developed, culturaly rich Baltic states. You tell your friends to learn language of the country they live in like normal people all over the world do. Then you won't have your so-called "neo-nazi descrimination" ********. Respect the country where you come to live and don't teach others and you will have peace which you hate so much.
Nathan   
16 Apr 2009
Life / What should Poland and Poles do, after first day of nuclear war? [133]

Just wait till i get power, you're gonna wear an armband along with Harry and Sjam.

I hope when it happens Polish will cut off your balls and stuff 'em in your filthy mouth. People like you bring nothing just destruction in the name of their brainless heads. But still I don't think you are past 20, so you have an excuse of being a kid.