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Mister H   
19 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / What exactly is the process to get into the UK? [44]

It does make it easier to be in that position, but people should still take such a move seriously.

Well I think so anyway. We'll just have to beg to differ.
Mister H   
19 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / Working as an au-pair in UK and leaving the host family. Is it legal? [60]

fucc you, you are like one of these who have heads up their arses (my host family lol) I want to be an au pair only to improve my English. I don't work full time so I don't have to pay taxes, after a few months I'm going back to Poland, don't be afraid I am not about to stay in YOUR country. Geez get over it mkay. Polish were more of a fun and laid back people.

What a charming little ray of sunshine you sound.

Good luck anyway !
Mister H   
19 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / What exactly is the process to get into the UK? [44]

Yes I agree that there is often always "something" on a job agencies books, but there will be more people chasing that job at the moment.

Also, this Cheery chap may want something more than just "any job". Therefore my advise would be to anyone looking to move here for work, is that they have to check things out an ideally have a job waiting for them before coming here.

It's not even clear if he knows anyone that lives here already and if he doesn't have a few friends to "sofa surf" with, he needs a proper plan even more.
Mister H   
19 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / What exactly is the process to get into the UK? [44]

I am a Polish citizen, and I've none citizenship where I am... I have another year of college and I really want to leave this place a while after I'm through. I just thought I'd ask a few if they would help provide some information on the matter, what arrangements are to be made.. I don't intend to relocated unprepared, if that was what most of you thought..

Jonni is making it sound like the streets are paved with gold.

We're in a recession and people are losing their jobs everyday. This is not the time to just "turn up", although the paperwork side of things is pretty minimal.

Get a job and a place to stay BEFORE you come here, unless you have enough cash to last you at least six months.

Do you have a budget for rent, food and general living expenses ?
Mister H   
19 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / Working as an au-pair in UK and leaving the host family. Is it legal? [60]

Please Wyspianska,
believe it,
you are legally allowed to work in the Britain and Ireland.

There are still some formalities to go through and it doesn't sound like she has done this. It sounds to me like she is working illegally as she is working "cash in hand" without any stoppages being taken off her wages.

She, her employers and her job agency should be reported.

It is illegal not to pay tax but you have not stated if you pay tax or not and is your business ;)

Eh ? She has said that she doesn't know if she has an NI number or not and would have had to fill in some forms to obtain one. Therefore it would seem that she hasn't and her and her employers are taking the mick.

This is basically "cash in hand" and if she is working full-time hours, she must be earning enough to become liable for tax - just like the rest of us.

This is tax evasion.
Mister H   
18 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / What exactly is the process to get into the UK? [44]

Wrong, if he comes here on a visa (none EU national) he has to provide proof that he has money to survive and support himself if he comes on a working visa he can only work for 1 year out of the 2 years he is allowed to stay.

If he comes here as an EU national, then he isn't allowed to claim any benefits (state assistance) until he has paid NI for 12 months.

So, either way someone walking into the country (unless they are an assylum seeker) gets nothing

Or that's how it is supposed to work!

I was assuming he is an national of an EU country, but my point was that regardless of where he comes from, we should be checking people to make sure that they have a method of supporting themselves before they are allowed in. I think that is how it works in Poland for EU nationals.

I don't understand why if his parents are Polish and now living in a different country, he would want to come to the UK.

As for work, forget it - we are looking at record breaking unemployment in the UK...British people will take what jobs are on offer - most people, contrary to popular belief can not afford to be out of work and pride doesn't pay the bills neither does £56 per week (or what ever it is).

I would suggest this kid goes to Poland at least he has a family support network and they don't seem to be in such a steep decline as what we are.

I agree.

He should stay where he is or get work and a place to stay here sorted out before moving here. It's too big a gamble otherwise.
Mister H   
18 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / What exactly is the process to get into the UK? [44]

I think I'm right in saying that if you go to Poland to work, you have to provide proof that you can support yourself financially if you don't have a job to go too.

This makes perfect sense and is something that is sadly lacking in the UK.
Mister H   
18 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / POLISH TEENAGER MURDERED IN UK..man convicted [28]

This interview with the girl's mother suprised me though. She seems a very decent person.

What surprised you ?

I have to say that I was surprised too. Yes, she seems a decent enough person, but comes across a little bit as though she wasn't really looking out for her daughter as much as she maybe should have been. There is no mention of the Dad either.
Mister H   
18 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / What exactly is the process to get into the UK? [44]

Forget about Polish buerocracy, everything's much easier in England. Except paying for stuff.

Some would say too easy.

My advise would be to visit first and test the water to see what you think of the place. Use that time to check out some decent jobs, places to live and try and envisage yourself living here.

Do you have any idea of the area of the country you want to live in ?

Make sure you can afford to live somewhere decent.

Given the current economic conditions, get yourself a job and a place to stay lined up before you make the move.

Good luck !
Mister H   
13 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / POLISH TEENAGER MURDERED IN UK..man convicted [28]

Sadly I think you're right.

The Government ********** around immigration so much that it's unravelling......FAST !!

It's not a case of the British being intolerant and racist (although some are, just like any country), it's more a case of being pushed to the edge time and time again. Sooner or later (probably sooner) someone will react and it will all kick off.

When it does, the Government will bury its head further in the sand to avoid any responsibility.

Having said that, what this country needs is a revolution, not a race war.

******** = pu**y-foots. What's wrong with that ?
Mister H   
12 Nov 2008
UK, Ireland / POLISH TEENAGER MURDERED IN UK..man convicted [28]

Iraqi factory worker Abobakir jabari aged 39 has been jailed for life for the murder of Polish teenager Lidia motylska last year in Leeds..This man did not approve of Lidia,s relationship with his flatmate , a fellow muslim , so he garotted , stabbed and almost beheaded this 19 year old girl....I can,t say any more on the subject , as i will be accused of being a racist , which anyone that knows me will know i am not.....I just hope the guy winds up sharing a cell with a twenty stone racist nutter...

You can say whatever you want to say on the subject, within reason. As long as you don't tar every muslim with the same brush then you should be ok.

I agree that anyone who has such a problem with someone else's choice of partner should just leave them to get on with it. If that means they have to leave the country then so be it.

This is the link to the article: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7723399.stm
Mister H   
19 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Are polish pupils harming native british childrens education? [280]

How tolerant of you.

And what do you do to try and combat this ? Are you on the board of governors of the school or something ? Have you spoken to the principal there ? Have you contacted the local Muslim society to discuss your concerns ? Do you observe all the Christian religious festivals in a traditional way ? Have you spoken to the other local faith organisations to see how they interact with each other and the local Muslim population to promote integration ?
Mister H   
19 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Bobski the Builder ... Channel 4, 9pm Thursday16th Oct 2008 [20]

Such a sterotype sadly. But it did make interesting viewing if nothing else.

Yes it was interesting, but they did nothing to advance the debate really.

You could even say that the British builder was doing a half-a*sed job for someone who happened to be asian. This together with his views on foreign workers did make me wonder if the race of his customer affected how well he did the job.

We should have seen more examples of work that both of them had done. Seeing one job of each didn't tell us much.

True! At the end of the day the TV company were making a programme and they had entertainment value first on their list. It would not surprise me if they also paid to put the work right again as one client seemed to be laughing a lot. In the case of the British builder I think they would have to start from scratch again.

The builders and the customers probably got paid to appear as well.
Mister H   
16 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Bobski the Builder ... Channel 4, 9pm Thursday16th Oct 2008 [20]

On a likeability scale ... for me Jarek the Polish builder wins hands down !

Yes, for me too ! He seemed the much nicer of the two blokes, but did seem rather naive about what it takes to run a business. Also, if he was four months behind with his rent, how come he hadn't looked for another job entirely ?

I was rather disappointed that the British builder had to be such a stereotype. Did they really have to go for someone like that ? Was that the best C4 could find ?

It showed the Polish as hard workers that hope their work ethic will get them through any situation (even when they don't know what they're doing) and it showed the British as "Bodgit & Scarper" merchants whose jobs end up the subjects of official investigations !

I think that the programme makers had their own agenda (as they always do) and I don't think they wanted to portray British builders in a positive light.
Mister H   
13 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / UK recession on the way? [58]

I think it's a combination of your credit score being pretty healthy together with banks who probably have yet to really learn their lesson.

I had a letter from my bank today suggesting I increase my loan and borrow more. It's madness !
Mister H   
12 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Does Irish government pay Polish workers to return to Poland? [18]

I'm sorry but thats a huge exaggeration. The standard of living in Britain, even among the poorest classes, is something that most people in the world can only dream of. And speaking in Ireland's case, I challange you to find someone who isn't better off financially now when our population is 12% foreign-born than 15 years ago when we were the most ethnically homogenous country in Europe.

I guess it depends on what you're used too. Standards of living maybe generally higher, but the cost of living compared to the average salary means that it's a very difficult balancing act to keep one's head above water. When someone from another country offers to do your job for half the price, it's a big problem as it's not as simple as just reducing our own rates to keep the business.

As for your claim that Polish workers will sign on to the dole, why would they choose to do this when they could instead return home at a time when their country has a severe labour shortage, especially in the construction sector. Living on the dole would mean their disposable income would drop below what they could earn at home, among family and friends. The reason for the huge levels of migration after the asscession was the huge discrepancy in wages/costs between Poland and Ireland/Britain. Now that wages/costs in Poland are at a much improved level (and improving all the time) you will see Polish migrants returing home to work rather than stay in Britain on the dole.

I agree that it should be the case, but I think many will stay hoping that the job situation will improve.

People keep saying that the Polish are going home, but I've not seen much of that happening yet.
Mister H   
12 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Does Irish government pay Polish workers to return to Poland? [18]

And Poland and the U.k. are part of the E.U. sooo...???
Maybe it is also semantics to call Scotland a country? which it is.
But I will agree with you, that racism is not the correct word.
And management of people is the job of your government

Essentially, what I am saying is that the UK is an island and it cannot cope with the influx of so many extra people. I'm not trying to stop or force anyone to do anything, I just think that an open door policy to immigration and total freedom of movement from within the EU is flawed. Everyone will flock to where they think they will get the best deal, which is natural, but it isn't going to work if they all head for the same place.

You're right, it is the job of Government to manage all this, but the British Government either don't want to be bothered or don't know what to do.

Do you think the whole thing would be better if there was no credit crunch?.
When you need foreign workers you throw open your doors.
Then the greedy fat cats mess everything up and the very foreigners you needed are the ones first to go. Wham Bam, thank you Mam? it doesn't work like that and what a relief.

The recession, when it happens, and the credit crunch will see many Polish having to sign-on the dole with other British people and that's when I see the real problems starting. Resenment towards migrant workers or whatever you want them to be called will grow when unemployment grows.

I don't think that's fair, but you don't need to be an expert in sociology to see that British people will get hacked off if they see the few jobs that are available going to someone with a foreign accent.

We should never "throw open our doors to foreign workers" as you put it. Employers should pay its staff a decent wage so that the average working British man/woman can do a days work, pay the bills and not be expected to live on fresh air like they are now.

The British Government should look after its own before others.
Mister H   
12 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Does Irish government pay Polish workers to return to Poland? [18]

Actually it is, if people from Glasgow were "controlled" and could not work in London, it would be racist (for want of a better word), this is the E.U.

Maybe managed is a better word than controlled, but that's just semantics.

Glasgow is part of the UK, so your argument doesn't really stack up, but I see what you're saying.

It's not racism, it's a numbers game. I don't want to stop anyone from going anywhere within reason, but there has to be checks in place to stop it from getting out of hand (like it is now).

Whether you call the Polish immigrants, EU migrants, foreigners or whatever label you want to put on them, the end result is the same. Too many of them and not enough jobs, houses, money, welfare benefits, school places etc etc to go around. Those who have been here longer and now have to have to hope that being born in the UK gives them a stronger case when trying to get on the housing list etc (which most of the time it doesn't) start getting brassed off.

European Utopia, which you seem to want, doesn't exist. It's being forced onto a population who don't want it in this way.
Mister H   
12 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Does Irish government pay Polish workers to return to Poland? [18]

Would you care to expand on that comment ?

It's not racist to expect a little control over numbers of the people entering any country.

Do the British not have any "rights as EU citizens", or do they just apply to others from elsewhere in the EU ?
Mister H   
4 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / THE POLES OF CHESTER, DRINKING & CRIME [5]

I just have one question? Why would anyone want live in the "armpit" of cheshire?

I've never been there, so will have to take your word for it, but it does seem quite common for the Polish and other foreigners to head for places in the UK that they no nothing about.

It must be very heart breaking and disappointing when they find themselves in a sh*t hole.
Mister H   
2 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Integrating Polish people into the British society [150]

Simple question; which immigrant do you choose - the hard working one or the lazy bum? Now here's the second question, which immigrant suffers the media bashing? No, not the obvious one, but instead the hard working immigrant. Why? Because he's white. If you bash the lazy bum, the PC brigade are going to call you racist.

Just because the media isn't picking on other immigrant groups doesn't mean that they're getting an easy ride.
Mister H   
2 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Integrating Polish people into the British society [150]

Those darned elephants :) R u the son of Alf Garnett, Mr H? Just kidding, I see what u r trying to say. We criticise the Chinese for sweeping problems under the carpet and we don't take the bull by the horns either.

Thanks, I'm glad you (and hopefully others) see my point.

I always refer to any problems I have with immigration as being the "uncontrolled immigration" we have now and certainly don't have an issue with immigration.

Im sure there are a lot of cross cultural friendships and I think England is a happy place, it's just getting a bit over crowded Liza and people are starting to notice and that's what is causing the tension. Did you know that in Bradford alone there are circa. 20,000 arranged marriages (partners coming from overseas) that's another 20,000 people a year arriving in Bradford every year..do you seriously think that we can continue on such a scale? Anyway my mate emmigrates to NZ in a few weeks so there's another foreigner to add to NZ :)

The issue has always been a numbers game and, for reasons best known to themselves, successive Governments just don't seem to want to deal with it.

Yes there are a lot of mixed friendships and relationships going on, but the crucial thing I notice where I live (Brighton) and work (Crawley) is the numbers of different groups of people who don't seem to get involved with people from another race/culture. I can walk around Crawley on a typical lunchtime and you see so many different races of people, but in the main they're not mixing and are just sticking with their own.

It's asians in groups of other asians, black people in groups of other black people and white english people in groups of other white english people etc.
Mister H   
1 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / Integrating Polish people into the British society [150]

Being forced to learn English and demonstrate a certain competence would help break down barriers.

I've never understood why this has never been the case and successive British Governments have ignored this and other problems raised by uncontrolled immigration. It's been the elephant in the room for years.
Mister H   
1 Oct 2008
UK, Ireland / How long before a newly arrived Pole can buy something on credit ? [24]

I dont know about that, my boyfriend got a letter and calls and a notice posted on his windscreen a few weeks before the 6 months was up, so somehow they knew. Cos if its taxed in Poland you dont have a tax disc on the window, so its obvious. Then if you try and tax it here, they register it.

Your boyfriend was shopped by someone (neighbours probably) as there is no real system in place to monitor foreign registered cars and it is purely down to someone telling the local DVLA office that a car has been around for ages and for them to look into it.

I'm not suggesting that your boyfriend was trying to avoid registering his car, but at the same time I don't blame whoever made the call for doing so.

probably your neighbours rang up the DVLA or council to complain. I would be interested to know what happens if you ignore these letters etc.. because I don't see how they can prove how long the car has been in the UK.

Personally I don't see it as a "complaint". Either buy a UK registered car if you intend living here for a long time or register a Polish car with a UK registration number and pay what the rest of us have to pay.

The DVLA would go by the date that they were informed about the car being here. Six months after that they would be able to take action, unless it can be proved that the car had been out of the country for a long period, which might re-set the six months back to zero.
Mister H   
29 Sep 2008
UK, Ireland / Integrating Polish people into the British society [150]

Being terribly honest, and as awful as it sounds, I gave up trying to make British friends a while back... It just gets on my wick when the media bangs on about intergrating! I've made plenty of friends from other nationalities, including Poles of course... and figure its the Brits missing out ;-)

Ahhhhh, don't give up !

I know it must feel like one-way traffic, but it's just people being afraid of letting their guard down mainly.