How is that possible?
do you realy believe that Russians didn`t know what prince Czartoryski doing among Serbians?
just one example of Polish-Serbian coordination...
Prince Czartoryski's intention was to make conditions for the establishment of independent Poland by using the Eastern question.
Close contacts of the Polish émigrés with the Serbian Constitutionalists was the result of their common hostility towards Russia.
A large area of Poland was under Russian rule. Why on earth would they want Poland to regain their independence?
with all due respect on Poland but, warm seas were always most important Russian foreign `investments`
Then, how to rule Poland taking in consideration religious differences. Foreign factor always managed to use those differences in order to divide Slavs even more. Considering those religious antagonisms, Russian failures on Slavic West were turned into real tragedies for Slavic world.... Russia was in unpleasent situation and needed reson to retreat from Poland
It is also important to underline traditional Polish-Serbian ties and tragic situation of both those ethoses. Both- Poles and Serbians desperately desired independance, both- from multiple factors. Serbians were convinced that Poles could help them (relying on tradition) and any Russian attempt to interfere in Polish-Serbian relations could be understand as attack on vital Serbian interests. For Serbians, liberations from Ottomans was priority, for Poles independance was imperative, for Russians warm seas were necesity. So, Russians didn`t risk to weaken their position among Serbs and they tolerated Polish-Serbian actions. Russians were also aware of mutual Polish-Serbian influence based on pure slavophilia and when they sow Polish-Serbian interaction which resulted in increasing Pan-Slavism they for sure sought an opportunity to let Poland get independance and even to profit on that (Polish resistance to Russia was increased but also to non-Slavs). Then Russians concentrated on Slavic South (warm seas) and greately pushed Turks, saving Serbians, saving warm seas for themselves.
When so called west sow development in Slavic world, that time France (Napoleon) lounched attack on Russia in order to support survivor of Ottoman Empire, leaving complete Slavic South on the silver plate to Ottomans, just to secure its economic investments in bussines with Turks/Muslim world. While internal Slavic relations were enough to provide mutual balance and independance of key Slavic players, self declared `Slavic masters` on so called west reacted to support non-European (Turks) invaders on Slavic world.
But even that can be attributed towards the pro-Russian rulers of Serbia at the time.
what pro-Russian rulers of Serbia?
Serbs like Russians for same reasons as they like Poles. My dear, it is Russian and Polish failure to divide over religious antagonism. Serbians were always above that. ALWAYS (don`t trust to anti-Serbian propaganda).
When Russia tried to force Serbia to obey to her, Russia learned that Serbians likes them but that they also has their specific interests. So, Serbian rulers who didn`t respect choice of Serbian people and inteligentsia were forced to abanden Serbian throne.
With the help of Polish representatives, who sent Zwierkowski to Belgrade, the Constitutionalists organized a revolt in Serbia in 1842, and expelled Prince Michael Obrenovic. After that, Alexander Karadjordjevic officially became the new Prince.
Russia wanted to neutralize the Ottoman threat in the area. As well, they were looking for any pretext to redeem themselves after standing down to Austria-Hungary's threats a few years earlier...
exactly!
and for that they needed Serbians and Serbians were sure that they need both-Russians and Poles. Russians needed to respect Serbian choice
This does not make it o.k. The Russians were acting in their own interests.
millions of lives are millions of lives in any case and Poland got its independance. I guaranteed to you that Russians were ready and prepared for such a development.
Yes, Russians acted in their own interests. That exactly i want to show to you! In one moment, situation in Slavic world and our mutual necesities forced us to coordinate and to help to each others (as many times in history), sacrificing something of our own (sometimes/often selfish) interests.
I feel sympathy for the men who were forced to be cannon fodder, but not towards Nicholas or any of that aristocratic scum.
i have respect for all Russians who enetered in WWI on the behalf of Serbian boosted with Pan-Slavic spirit, no matter stuborn Serbian responds to Russia. I am absolutely sure that Nicholas was among those people of Russia who believed that Poland deserve its independance same as Serbia- that`s the bottom line of his life, he paid with his life for his Pan-Slavic attitude when weakened Russia failed under communism because of German schemes.
Source for quotations:
Ilija Garasanin's "Nacertanije"Institute for Balkan Studies
Serbian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Belgrade, Dusan T. Batakovicrastko.org.yu/istorija/batakovic/batakovic-nacertanije_eng.html