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Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
5 May 2008 /  #31
If I had a Polish passport, I would be Polish.

No, you wouldn't be... Har, have mercy... Do you seriously think that a Nigerian or Pakistani or Chechen guy becomes Polish the day he gets Polish citizenship... ? Of course not (HE IS A POLISH CITIZEN OF NIGERIAN/PAKISTANI/CHECHEN NATIONALITY) and you know that very well but...

Or is your statement just another example of the casual racism which infests your posts? Do you think that I can never be Polish because I am not Christian enough for you?

...that gives you opportunity for another pathetic attempt to portray me as a racist and obviously an antisemit just because I can confront your agenda. And isn't It ironic that people with very low intermarriages rate and using DNA studies to check, who belong to their group think that they have some God's given right to decide If somebody is a racist or not ? Ooops... I guess I'm antisemitic again... bad me...

Yes, obviously I hate Poland and Poles.

Unfortunately.

My mother really couldn't give a sh!t about Poland or Poles. She never even thought about the place or the people until I moved here. But it's nice of you to insult my mother anyway

Very interesting...

"Every Pole sucks anti-Semitism with his mother's milk"

Icchak Szamir - ex PM of Israel

...too bad I haven't yet achieved sophistication of this man to insult all the mothers in the nation... sorry... in this case he was obviously only bashing bad bad racists...

Even the Polish IPN (not normally noted for loving Jews)

And how IPN isn't "noted for loving Jews" ? Geez... Har, you are full of It...
Harry  
5 May 2008 /  #32
No, you wouldn't be... Har, have mercy... Do you seriously think that a Nigerian or Pakistani or Chechen guy becomes Polish the day he gets Polish citizenship... ? Of course not (HE IS A POLISH CITIZEN OF NIGERIAN/PAKISTANI/CHECHEN NATIONALITY) and you know that very well but...

Well of course he won't be Polish to you. He'd be a N!gger or a Paki or a Wog. And to you N!ggers, Pakis and Wogs can never be Polish. Just as a Jew can never be Polish to you. To you I can never be Polish because you don't think I'm a white Catholic.

Alternatively, why don't you tell me what makes a person Polish? If it isn't being a resident and a citizen, what is it? Well, apart from being a white Catholic obviously.

...that gives you opportunity for another pathetic attempt to portray me as a racist and obviously an antisemit just because I can confront your agenda. And isn't It ironic that people with very low intermarriages rate and using DNA studies to check, who belong to their group think that they have some God's given right to decide If somebody is a racist or not ? Ooops... I guess I'm antisemitic again... bad me...

Confront me with my agenda then. Alternatively just reinforce your credentials as a racist by telling me what my agenda must be based on what you think my race is. You assume that I'm Jewish and so you automatically tell me what my agenda is.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
5 May 2008 /  #33
And isn't It ironic that people with very low intermarriages rate and using DNA studies to check, who belong to their group think that they have some God's given right to decide If somebody is a racist or not ?

Ah, yes, good point...but you see, Jews frown on intermarriage with 'goyim' unless it will help move them up the financial ladder...and they usually use their women for this, because to Orthodox Judaism, women are in the same category as slaves, oxen and 'goyim'!...now, Jews don't like Blacks either, unless they can make money off of them...the great Jewish religious scholar, Moses Maiomides, called them 'apes without tails'!
Harry  
5 May 2008 /  #34
now, Jews don't like Blacks either, unless they can make money off of them...the great Jewish religious scholar, Moses Maiomides, called them 'apes without tails'!

Wow! You mean that some Jews are racist? Well that would make them like every other race of people on the planet.

Apart from Poles of course. No Poles are ever racist. Polish football fans only ever threw bananas at black football players because they were concerned that the player might need a healthy snack during the game to give him a burst of energy.
southern 75 | 7,096  
5 May 2008 /  #35
Alternatively, why don't you tell me what makes a person Polish? If it isn't being a resident and a citizen, what is it?

High cheeks,my friend.And a large kielbasa for polish haters.
Harry  
5 May 2008 /  #36
High cheeks,my friend.

And the ability to play football (assuming they aren't white Catholics of course).
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
5 May 2008 /  #37
Well of course he won't be Polish to you.

He won't be Polish to any person with a working brain.

He'd be a N!gger or a Paki or a Wog. And to you N!ggers, Pakis and Wogs can never be Polish. Just as a Jew can never be Polish to you. To you I can never be Polish because you don't think I'm a white Catholic.

lol...

You assume that I'm Jewish and so you automatically tell me what my agenda is.

lol...X2
Harry  
6 May 2008 /  #38
He won't be Polish to any person with a working brain.

So you mean only racists like you have a working brain?

Good to see you still won't answer my question. Now we all know your answer. A person who has a Polish passport and Polish citizenship and is a permanent resident of Poland can to you only be Polish provided he is a white Catholic. Nice you're proving yet again that you are a bigot.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
6 May 2008 /  #39
Apart from Poles of course. No Poles are ever racist. Polish football fans only ever threw bananas at black football players because they were concerned that the player might need a healthy snack during the game to give him a burst of energy.

Way to go Harry! What a great idea to describe one nationalities opinion of black people through the behavior of football hooligans. What next? Depicting British society’s approach to gay people through british skinhead subculture or Scandinavian opinion of Christianity through Norwegian black metal fans?

PS: My friend just applied for Irish citizenship (he spent almost all his life in Poland). Do you think once he will acquire it the Irish will consider him Irish?
Harry  
6 May 2008 /  #40
What a great idea to describe one nationalities opinion of black people through the behavior of football hooligans.

I would never try to describe the qualities of an entire nation. Doing that would be racist.

My point was showing that Poles can be racist. As some the posters here also prove.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
7 May 2008 /  #41
Har, spreading xenophobia and anti-Polonism through the forums and in the same time accusing others of racism, you are only making yourself look like a total ass.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389  
10 May 2008 /  #42
Apart from Poles of course. No Poles are ever racist. Polish football fans only ever threw bananas at black football players because they were concerned that the player might need a healthy snack during the game to give him a burst of energy.

Harry, Poles are as prejudiced as anyone, and myself included...but as far as that footballer, yes, maybe the fans thought that he was hungry...also, bananas are very high in potassium, which helps an athlete retain fluids and reduces muscle cramps!
z_darius 14 | 3,968  
10 May 2008 /  #43
My point was showing that Poles can be racist.

No s.hit.
It would be more exciting to know which nationalities can't.
Easy_Terran 3 | 312  
10 May 2008 /  #44
It would be more exciting to know which nationalities can't.

lol
axactly.

Harry, my dear researcher, show me a country, ANY country that has no antisemites in its population.

Go ahead, enlighten me.

Edited 2.
And show some numbers. % Jews here, % nasty attacks here.


And skip Japan, China, Madagaskar and Antarctica.

Edited 1.
You know what? Keep those countries in yours list, too. That'd be more entertaining.

BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
11 May 2008 /  #45
most people know that there are racists, antisemites and homophobes in every country.

the point about the polish is the lengths they go to to deny it. if poles on the forum held their hand up and said 'yes, poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia' then this might go some way to reduce the animosity towards them. but of course that never occured to you. did it. then we have to conclude that some polish posters dont see any problem with being racist, antisemetic homophobes.
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
11 May 2008 /  #46
the point about the polish is the lengths they go to to deny it.

Incorrect and untrue. The Poles don't deny it and do admit there is a minor issue in their country with racists etc. The true problem is the lengths that 'others' (media, certain ethnic/religious groups, certain people) go to show that Poland does have a problem with it, and it is way too often overblown and exaggerated. That is the problem as I see it.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
11 May 2008 /  #47
'yes, poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia'

No, It doesn't...
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
11 May 2008 /  #48
yes it does. youre a prime example. check yourself before you wreck yourself dude

The Poles don't deny it

No, It doesn't...

youre too funny mate
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
11 May 2008 /  #49
the point about the polish is the lengths they go to to deny it. if poles on the forum held their hand up and said 'yes, poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia' then this might go some way to reduce the animosity towards them. but of course that never occured to you. did it. then we have to conclude that some polish posters dont see any problem with being racist, antisemetic homophobes.

There is a subtle difference between arguing with a statement that Poland is a racist, homophobic and anti-semitic country and saying that Poland is absolutely free from those awful attitudes.

I hope that those most people you are talking about see this difference.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
11 May 2008 /  #50
so do i maty, but i see no indication from some that they do
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
11 May 2008 /  #51
youre too funny mate

If you claim that Poland has a problem with racism, antisemitism and homophobia then prove It. Show the facts. The number of attacks on Jews, Blacks, homos etc. compared to other countries. Is there more of them ? No ? So you are only spreading Polonophobic garbage.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
11 May 2008 /  #52
and once again it all goes woosh over your head G, doesnt it

this is why people take the p!ss out of you. constantly
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163  
11 May 2008 /  #53
You are posting crap and can't prove It. That doesn't have anything to do with my head.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
11 May 2008 /  #54
G my little friend. your head is stuck so far up your racist, antisemetic homophobic polish arse that you are unable to see the wood for the trees.

and so are you.

the difference being that i have no problem acknowledging my racist tendencies and take active steps to confront them

where as you live in denial
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
11 May 2008 /  #55
Harry & BubbaWoo,

You seem to never quantify the number of Poles you are referring to as 'racist, anti-xxx, etc'. Instead, you have the tendency to say "Poles" or "Poland", indicating, you are accusing an entire country, and all Poles worldwide. That is a problem you have. Learn not to stereotype, generalize, accuse in the aggregrate, and slander. Read up on your history and current affairs as well, using objective sources. It will make you a more educated individual. Obviously, you both have an inbred hatred of Poles and Poland and a twisted agenda to distort the true facts.
dtaylor 9 | 823  
11 May 2008 /  #56
a twisted agenda to distort the true facts.

You could also say that the history taught in Polish schools has more of a political agenda than a factual agenda.
OP scorpio 20 | 188  
11 May 2008 /  #57
dtaylor, can you provide some concrete examples of your claim, perhaps via a link to some source on the net of what you are exactly trying to say? I've taught in a Polish public school and have seen firsthand what they learn in classes such as History. I haven't witnessed any form of a 'political agenda'. They learn accurate historical facts very well and I haven't seen anything indicating otherwise. Again, please provide examples.
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
11 May 2008 /  #58
Learn not to stereotype, generalize, accuse in the aggregrate, and slander.

if you havent learnt that generalisations can be made and stereotypes do exist then you are spectacularly niave. its a simple approach referred to as 'segmentation' in marketing terms. someone has pigeonholed you

we all fall into categories, some of which have positive attributes and some negative. being concious of this encourages selfawareness and the ability step back in observation. it also enables critical assessment

as with many poles, but by no means all, you are unable to see this despite it having been pointed out enlessly to you and your like on this forum. i am fortunate because it provides me with an endless source of amusement

thanks for the laugh
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544  
11 May 2008 /  #59
if you havent learnt that generalisations can be made and stereotypes do exist then you are spectacularly niave.

But isn't this the gist of racism, anti-semitism and homophobia? Putting people into negative categories?
Why racist generalizations can not be made while others, like generalizing about Poles being racist, can?
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510  
11 May 2008 /  #60
But isn't this the gist of racism, anti-semitism and homophobia?

of course it is. we all form preferences and prejudices based on our interpretations of distinctive characteristics, regardless of what context they are applied to. on what we are allowed to express our prejudices, and how we chose to espress them, are governed by many factors. as you are no doubt aware. but this does not preclude the fact that both the characteristics and prejudices exist

its the same process of generalisation that allows polish women to be placed upon a pedistal. only a fool would apply their characteristics across the board. but only a fool would deny the characteristics do infact exist

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