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Should Germany claim to be the victims in Poland?


the_falkster  1 | 180  
15 Dec 2007 /  #241
bockwurst...

do you really believe that nationalistic people like you are the future for germany?
do you really think that you have anything serious to contribute to our culture?
has germany not gone through all this once already?
don't you think that the intelligence in germany will prevent this aggression against our neighbours that you represent?
isn't it people like you and the likes of you that always only make it into the media for any violent acts against foreigners (amongst others) for example?

do you really believe that anybody is taking these people serious through these acts?
do you believe that on here people take you serious?

i mean... wake up, boy!

btw i do not hate east germans as large parts of my family live there. what i certainly DO hate is uprising of far right nazi tendencies amongst low educated visionless unemployed young people who follow the wrong idols...

the time of the "falksters" is going to end

i like that... having a period of time named after me... it is going to end?? i don't think so...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #242
Hehe...what do you know falkster...there in England!

And please...bring some support to show that YOU are right and not me!
Till now it's only ME bringing facts into this discussion!

BELIEVING can you what you want!

PS: You should be really careful of others accusing with "low education".
In this discussion I showed that it was YOU who had no idea....

PPS: And on the other hand YOUR kind of "education" is noted and disliked...
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #243
Steinbach for Chancellor! :)

Great example

she is head of this organiation she came to Poland in 39 together with German soldiers and escaped before Russians came (I have checked it) she is one of milions expeled form Poland ... I forgoten about the fact that 30% of members of this organisation are former SS soldiers
the_falkster  1 | 180  
15 Dec 2007 /  #246
we are "Do'ers"

i assume that labels the army of unemployed peole in east germany who at this moment have pretty much nothing to "do"?
unless you specifiy "we" a bit more, in which case i would apologise...
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #247
the other fact is that after building the center it is posible Polish organiations are going to go to courts, because Germans havent payed anything ... and some Jewish lawers (they won in simillar cases against Germans) declared help ... I dont know if it is good direction ...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #248
i assume that labels the army of unemployed peole in east germany who at this moment have pretty much nothing to "do"?
unless you specifiy "we" a bit more, in which case i would apologise...

"WE" are the new right...contrary to you old green-left-multikulti-moslemloving-warguiltwallowing-sandalwearers! :)
(forgot "INTERNATIONALISTS")

Germans havent payed anything

Again....how much worth is all the land, the farms, the little villages, the big towns??? Wanna compare???
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #249
Again....how much worth is all the land, the farms, the little villages, the big towns??? Wanna compare???

yes ...

we can copare 6 mln Polish citizens killed ...

95 % of Warszawa totaly destroyed ...

as to your properies you expeled Poles form there using force, or simply killing them ...

GERMANS STARTED THE WAR , AND WANTED TO EXTERMINTE OUR NATION

USA UK SU DECIDED TO CHANGE BORDER AND EXPEL GERMANS !!! IT WASNT OUR DECISON
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #250
GERMANS STARTED THE WAR , AND WANTED TO EXTERMINTE OUR NATION

Hmm...what makes you so sure?
Germans ruled in the East for centuries...and you still existed in these lands.
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #251
Germans ruled in the East for centuries...and you still existed in these lands.

ruled

pffff

Prussian duke (beging on knees BTW nice beginig of Prussia ) and our King ... later you atacked Poland together wit Russians and Austrians and started to expel Poles (whole XIX century)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #252
Then how comes there were all those Millions of Poles in Prussia/Silesia etc.

So many to make uprisings???

(If they would had been really expelled the way the Poles did it...there would never have been a danger...)
the_falkster  1 | 180  
15 Dec 2007 /  #253
old green-left-multikulti-moslemloving-warguiltwallowing-sandalwearers

so not me... lol

but okay... i have my image of you and you have yours of mine...
let's just leave it like that we're most certainly not changing each others opinion...
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #255
(If they would had been really expelled the way the Poles did it...there would never have been a danger...)

because it is not so easy to expel Pole

town where I live

All in all, the policies of Germanisation of the Poznań area mostly failed. Although most of the administrative measures aimed against the Poles remained in force until 1918, between 1912 and 1914 only four Polish-owned estates were expropriated, while at the same time Polish social organizations successfully competed with German trade organizations and even started to buy land from the Germans. The long-lasting effect of the Polish-German conflict in the area was development of a sense of Greater Polish identity, distinct from the identity common in other parts of Poland and primarily associated with nationalist ideas rather than socialism, prevailing in other parts of the country in 20th century.

Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #256
because it is not so easy to expel Pole

Germans unable to expel Poles (even if they wanted to)

All in all, the policies of Germanisation of the Poznań area mostly failed.

Germans unable to "Germanize" Poles (even if they wanted to)

Those stupid Germans! :(
(They should take lessons from the Poles to do it "right")
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #257
so you started to use force ...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #258
Yes...after centuries we now thought it would be time!
(My are we slow sometimes....)

...not only stupid but slow too...:(
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
15 Dec 2007 /  #259
...not only stupid but slow too...:(

Remember that it is you who said it, not us. ;P
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #260
but the disturbances between the moslems and the Germans grow daily.

I feel sound ... so we have first enemies :-) of empire LOL
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #261
Remember that it is you who said it, not us. ;P

It's how I said before:

Germans can't hold a candle to the Poles concerning ethnic cleansing!
I wondered about all that resistance my first post got...the facts are there...

I feel sound ... so we have first enemies :-) of empire LOL

Huh?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #262
OK MAYBE AGAIN GERMANS INVADED POLAND WANTED TO EXTERMINATE ALL POLES ...

BUT FAILED ... AND WERE KICKED

WE KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS CENTER AND FORMER NAZIST WILL BE FACE OF THIS PROJECT ... AND IT WILL BE BASED IN BERILN (SO YOU WILL REJECT POLISH PROPSAL BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT WE GAVE PROPOSITON ... WE ARE NOT ARGUERS BUT OUR PROPOSAL WAS RESPONSIBLE)

BUT IT IS GOOD TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF FORCES ARE STRONG IN GERMANY NOW
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #263
OK MAYBE AGAIN GERMANS INVADED POLAND WANTED TO EXTERMINATE ALL POLES ...

Who said: "Opinions are like arseholes..everybody has one!" ???

PS: WHY do you want us Germans to exterminate all of you so badly?
Does it make you feel better?

WE KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS CENTER AND FORMER NAZIST WILL BE FACE OF THIS PROJECT ... AND IT WILL BE BASED IN BERILN (SO YOU WILL REJECT POLISH PROPSAL BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT WE GAVE PROPOSITON ... WE ARE NOT ARGUERS BUT OUR PROPOSAL WAS RESPONSIBLE)

Erm...you locked your Tab key I fear....

Anyway...there is nothing wrong with the proposal to build the center in Danzig...I like that idea actually!
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #264
OH YES WHAT IS MORE 80% OF GERMANS (FOR EXAMPLE IN GDANSK) SUPPORTED HITLER ... (ONE OF THE BIGEST LEVELS IN GERMANY) SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE SERVANTS ...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #265
Of course did they support Hitler...he was the one who promised to bring them home...to make Danzig a real german town again, something the Treaty of Versailles destroyed!

To right again what was percieved by millions as a grave injustice!

The uprisers in Silesia also supported the Poles and wanted to become part of Poland, didn't they? Weren't they traitors to Schlesien?
Or can only Poles have this right but not Germans?
Lukasz  49 | 1746  
15 Dec 2007 /  #266
and were killing Poles
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #267
You mean after or before they did expell them?
Crow  154 | 9310  
15 Dec 2007 /  #268
Relations between Berlin and Warsaw are strained

I`m not surprised. Germans are Germans and Poles know their duty

Germany rule EU, trying to destroy Slavic South, provoke Poland. On the long run Germany would face with united Slavic respond

What I learned analyzing Slavic history is fact that Slavs always, no matter were they in formal union or alliance, behaved as ONE ORGANISM and demonstrated solidarity (!even no matter on mutual divisions!) with other Slavs threatening by hostile foreigners.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
15 Dec 2007 /  #269
CROW!!!!

:):):)

What I learned analyzing Slavic history is fact that Slavs always, no matter were they in formal union or alliance, behaved as ONE ORGANISM and demonstrated solidarity

Yup...Poles and Russians...what a love story! :)
..and the Czechs were so happy to give part of their land to Poles...
And the Ukrainian Waffen-SS division...boy did they love their slavic brothers!

Not to mention how they all stormed to help Serbia as Yugoslavia broke up...I remember the voluntares from all slavic countries taking up arms for Serbia!

*nods vigorously*
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
15 Dec 2007 /  #270
It's how I said before:

Germans can't hold a candle to the Poles concerning ethnic cleansing!

I liked the part about "germans beiong stupid ans losw " written by you better. :P

PS: WHY do you want us Germans to exterminate all of you so badly?
Does it make you feel better?

There's notting better than smell of napalm and being exterminated in the morning... :))

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