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Jewish love towards Poles


celinski  31 | 1258  
23 Feb 2009 /  #241
I just find the slandering of Polish bs. I was just reading

(Why wouldn't Jews collaborate with the Soviets? They weren't trying to exterminate them.)

This says so much about anti-Polonism. NKVD are killing off Polish and if Polish tried to defend this attack and a Jewish Pole was fighting with NKVD, was this anti Semitism or being on the wrong side of the fence? How can this be stated without this fact being pointed out. Did they really think Polish would just let them forget this.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
23 Feb 2009 /  #242
My student today told me that his school was racist. When I asked him how many blacks were there, he said none. He was talking about the Jews. Isolated case tho.
free palestine  - | 14  
3 Mar 2009 /  #243
The reasonable question is maybe is there someting in jewish people's attitude that causes so much hatred and harshness towards them?

you pal have hit the nail on the head. and i am glad you have put the jew history up there about how every nation has hated them throughout history right back to biblical times,does this not tell you people anything?these fuckers are enemys of non jews,they plan and plan and in the end they will bite the hand that feeds them,they will stab you any the back any chance they get.NEVER TRUST A JEW.
sjam  2 | 541  
3 Mar 2009 /  #244
When I asked him how many blacks were there

With respect maybe this says something about your views on racism and what is racist?
1jola  14 | 1875  
4 Mar 2009 /  #245
Israel Singer, General Secretary of the World Jewish Congress stated that "More than three million Jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish Jews. We are never going to allow this. (...) They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again. If Poland does not satisfy Jewish claims it will be "publicly attacked and humiliated" in the international forum.

Is this the same WJC that along with WZO did nothing to help the European Jews during the Holocaust??!!

Chutzpah.
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
22 Mar 2009 /  #246
You don't know the half of this WJC (World Jewish Council)...The WJC is the tool of the Bronfman family, 'Illuminati' Jews from Canada...They are probably the top Jewish mafia family in the world (the Rothschilds are on a different level)...The WJC extorted over $1 billion from Swiss banks for supposed 'compensation' that Jews killed in WWII never claimed themselves...It is a rather involved affair, but it was simply extortion, the Swiss caving in because of 'bad publicity'...Anyway, the Bronfmans pocketed all this money, which was supposed to go to 'holocaust' victims families...NOW, the Bronfmans are one of the primary players in the Madoff affair, transferring these billions through 'Israel Discount Bank' in NY, into offshore and Swiss accounts...The Madoff money didn't just disappear...Most went to Israel, some went to the Bronfmans.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
22 Mar 2009 /  #247
It's called leverage, right? If you can prove all that Joe, I'd believe. Where is the proof? Yah it's in offshore banks but 10 billion's already accounted for.

Joe, we all know Madoff's a sociopath. It's already been declared. Now provide links for all that other stuff you spout, about where the money has gone. I'd be interested to know because I thought in a Ponzi scheme previous investment was used to provide large, hasty returns for new investors to keep the scheme going...
Randal  1 | 577  
22 Mar 2009 /  #248
I thought in a Ponzi scheme previous investment was used to provide large, hasty returns for new investors to keep the scheme going...

You misspoke, HB. The new investors’ money is used to pay the previous investors.
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
22 Mar 2009 /  #249
Maybe, but I'm not sure...could have been leveraged to pay off investors too. It's complicated.
1jola  14 | 1875  
22 Mar 2009 /  #250
It may be complicated to you but not to Elie Wiesel - The Holocaust survivor.

After seeing how consistently Mr. Madoff generated handsome returns buying fairly plain-vanilla securities -- "He bought 100 shares of Coca-Cola and sold 500 shares of Pfizer," Mr. Wiesel said, describing his understanding of the Madoff strategy

Poor Elie, and I mean poor. He lost all his money to the scheme. The suffering continues but there is hope:

Wiesel said he is planning legal action against Madoff but called for the federal government to bail out charities just as it has bailed out carmakers and banks.

"I think it would be a great gesture that the Obama administration should show, we really think of those who are helpless and who are doing with their money only good things."

You don't know the half of this WJC

You're wrong Joe. I don't know one tenth of one percent, but I have read Finkelstein describe the fleecing of the Swiss. Speaking of fleecing, read how the threats work in this example. The threats come at the end after a nice dose of insults.

jcpa.org/jl/vp412.htm
Husaria  - | 15  
22 Mar 2009 /  #251
LOL at free Palestine. With a name like that i wonder what your attitude towards jews is...
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
22 Mar 2009 /  #252
It may be complicated to you but not to Elie Wiesel - The Holocaust survivor.

So far I haven't read about a connection between Madoff and holocaust survivors (until you posted this).
joepilsudski  26 | 1387  
23 Mar 2009 /  #253
It's called leverage, right? If you can prove all that Joe, I'd believe. Where is the proof? Yah it's in offshore banks but 10 billion's already accounted for.
Joe, we all know Madoff's a sociopath. It's already been declared. Now provide links for all that other stuff you spout, about where the money has gone. I'd be interested to know because I thought in a Ponzi scheme previous investment was used to provide large, hasty returns for new investors to keep the scheme going
...

Prove it?...My dear, I wouldn't say it if there wasn't substantial evidence to indicate this...Where do I get my evidence?...Well, for a start, you also have a computer...Go on it, and ask the pertinent questions, and you will get some answers...The hard evidence that the prosecutor has, but won't use?...You would have contact one Lev Dassin, dual US/Israeli citizen, the head US Attorney handling the case...Bernie Madoff is not a psychopath...He may be a fall guy...He may have been made an 'offer he can't refuse' by the Israeli/Jewish mafia...This was an organized crime swindle, involving high level Jews...It was not a Ponzi scheme...It was mass theft and money laundering...The money was moved to Israel and Israeli controlled banks...And, some Jews may have lost some money...But Jews also steal from other Jews....For the good of 'Greater Israel'.

Lev Dassin
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
24 Mar 2009 /  #254
I'll believe it when you provide the links from credible sources. Sounds like another conspiracy theory. More likely the guy kept taking out more loans to buy more expensive stock so he could sell and make it look like he was garnishing high returns when others weren't so he could attract more investors.

Joe there's a hole in your conspiracy theory. A record number of jews is pissed at Maddoff because he ripped them off, took their money and leveraged it. If the money was going to Israel, dontcha think all would be forgiven? All has not been forgiven.
Rafal_1981  
24 Mar 2009 /  #255
Israel Singer, General Secretary of the World Jewish Congress stated that "More than three million Jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish Jews. We are never going to allow this. (...) They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again. If Poland does not satisfy Jewish claims it will be "publicly attacked and humiliated" in the international forum.

New link (the last one is broken): geocities.com/jedwabne/english/exploitation_of_the_tragedy.htm

only the truth is interesting
HatefulBunch397  - | 658  
24 Mar 2009 /  #256
Israel Singer, General Secretary of the World Jewish Congress stated that "More than three million Jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish Jews. We are never going to allow this. (...) They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again. If Poland does not satisfy Jewish claims it will be "publicly attacked and humiliated" in the international forum.

Okay...why do you want to keep posting that? You are reminding people over and over of what was said by Israel Singer. You are reminding them of it on a Polish forum where people come to read about Poles. WHY??????????? Don't you see how bad it makes Polish people look???????

THAT is my complaint. Is posts like yours that keep reminding people over and over they should hate the Polish. That is all that post of yours is doing. Hope you are proud of it!!!!!!!!!!!
1jola  14 | 1875  
24 Mar 2009 /  #257
Instead of getting histerical, why don't you comment on what you think of Israel Singer's threats toward the Poles.

Don't you see how bad it makes Polish people look???????

How does Singer's ridiculous threats make Poles look bad? Hello??
Harry  
24 Mar 2009 /  #258
why don't you comment on what you think of Israel Singer's threats toward the Poles.

Why don't you explain why people should not be compensated for property which was stolen from them?
1jola  14 | 1875  
24 Mar 2009 /  #259
Stolen by whom?
Harry  
24 Mar 2009 /  #260
The Polish government for example. And then perhaps sold on by the Polish government to private individuals or companies.
Mr Grunwald  33 | 2133  
24 Mar 2009 /  #261
1jola:
Stolen by whom?
The Polish government for example

If it's about the goverment of PRL, then I would seen your statement as... unlogical.
They were more sovietic/Russian then really Poles! People just don't get it.
Just you call a pig a wildboar doesn't make him into a wildboar!
Harry  
24 Mar 2009 /  #262
only the truth is interesting

Perhaps that would explain why the article you link to is so boring.

Typically no Jewish survivor of the war has been tried in the courts in Israel, no matter how terrible crimes he might have committed in Europe during or immediately after the war.

Read about Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950. Then read about the trials Israel held from 1951 to 1964 in which a number of former camp kapos and ghetto police were tried.

If it's about the goverment of PRL, then I would seen your statement as... unlogical.
They were more sovietic/Russian then really Poles! People just don't get it.

Ignoring your comment that Poles were Russian, property which was stolen by the PRL has still not been returned to its rightful owner. Please justify why that should be tolerated.
McCoy  27 | 1268  
24 Mar 2009 /  #263
Why don't you explain why people should not be compensated for property which was stolen from them?

ok, but first let the countries who had slavery pay descendants of slaves for work of their great grandparents. lets say 50 cents per hour plus 75 for overtime and 100 $ for death during work (;

and let the colonial countries give back everything they stole from other countries. life ain't fair Harry.
Harry  
24 Mar 2009 /  #264
We aren't talking about descendants and great-grandparents: we are talking about the people who used to live in houses which still stand today but who are offered nothing as compensation for the theft of their property. I would be quite happy to see a limit imposed on compensation claims in Poland that nobody could claim more than one generation back.
McCoy  27 | 1268  
24 Mar 2009 /  #265
Are you a jew or just the just one?
1jola  14 | 1875  
24 Mar 2009 /  #266
The Polish government for example. And then perhaps sold on by the Polish government to private individuals or companies.

Jews with property deeds can get in line with the Poles to try to recover property confiscated by the communists.

property which was stolen by the PRL has still not been returned to its rightful owner. Please justify why that should be tolerated.

This matter is decided in courts not in blackmailing shakedown speeches by World Jewish Congress, which during the Holocaust did absolutly nothing to save the Polish Jews.

Read about Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950. Then read about the trials Israel held from 1951 to 1964 in which a number of former camp kapos and ghetto police were tried.

Since you have read about the Kapo Trials, tell us how many Jewish collaborators were convicted and what was the punishment.

Also, what did the Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950 state?
Harry  
24 Mar 2009 /  #267
Jews with property deeds can get in line with the Poles to try to recover property confiscated by the communists.

So you don't want any Jews who were in Poland in 1939 claiming back their property. OK. Nice of you to say so.

This matter is decided in courts not in blackmailing shakedown speeches by World Jewish Congress, which during the Holocaust did absolutly nothing to save the Polish Jews.

You can of course prove that the World Jewish Congress did nothing to save Polish Jews. And you will no doubt go into great detail when explaining exactly what the World Jewish Congress could have done to save Polish Jews.

Since you have read about the Kapo Trials, tell us how many Jewish collaborators were convicted and what was the punishment.

You want to know? Go look it up. My point was to expose yet another of Iwo's lies.

Are you a jew or just the just one?

Neither actually. I'd like to see all Poles, regardless of ethnic background, recover the property stolen from them during WWII. The only Jew posting in this thread is the one who abandoned Poland and fled to the USA with his parents at a time when Christian Poles "could only dream of escaping communism".
1jola  14 | 1875  
24 Mar 2009 /  #268
1jola:
Jews with property deeds can get in line with the Poles to try to recover property confiscated by the communists.

Harry:
So you don't want any Jews who were in Poland in 1939 claiming back their property. OK. Nice of you to say so.

You seem to have comprehension problems. Read it again and have an adult explain it to you.

1jola:
Since you have read about the Kapo Trials, tell us how many Jewish collaborators were convicted and what was the punishment.

Harry:
You want to know? Go look it up. My point was to expose yet another of Iwo's lies.

You haven't exposed anything. You made a statement without supporting it. I know the truth is inconvenient at this point. So, again, how many were convicted and what was the punishment. After all, there were thousands of Jewish collaborators.

Also, what did the Israel's Nazis and Nazi Collaboration (Punishment) law 5710/1950 state? The answer is not convevient either so you will not answer.

You can of course prove that the World Jewish Congress did nothing to save Polish Jews. And you will no doubt go into great detail when explaining exactly what the World Jewish Congress could have done to save Polish Jews.

It is not me who accuses WJC of not lifting their finger to help European Jewry - it is the Jewish sources who condemn WJC and WZO. They could have saved many lives with funds, influence, blank passports. Instead they studied the problem with results we all know.

The only Jew posting in this thread is the one who abandoned Poland and fled to the USA with his parents at a time when Christian Poles "could only dream of escaping communism".

You should think what you are writing. Here you are accusing Jews who emigrated from Poland of abandoning their country. You are my hero.
Harry  
24 Mar 2009 /  #269
You seem to have comprehension problems. Read it again and have an adult explain it to you.

Do explain how it can be rational to expect a person who has been thrown out his home, locked up in a ghetto, sent to a transit camp, then on to either a concentration camp or an extermination camp before finally surviving a death march to have kept a property deed.

I know the truth is inconvenient at this point. So, again, how many were convicted and what was the punishment. After all, there were thousands of Jewish collaborators.

If you know the truth, perhaps you would like to share it with us all. How many Jewish collaborators emigrated to Israel and how many were punished there?

It is not me who accuses WJC of not lifting their finger to help European Jewry - it is the Jewish sources who condemn WJC and WZO. They could have saved many lives with funds, influence, blank passports. Instead they studied the problem with results we all know.

Actually it is you and Jewish sources but nevermind that small point. Do please explain precisely how much influence the WJC had over the Nazi party.

Here you are accusing Jews who emigrated from Poland of abandoning their country. You are my hero.

No, I am accusing you of abandoning your country in her hour of need in your search for comfortable toilet paper. The truth hurts doesn't it?
1jola  14 | 1875  
24 Mar 2009 /  #270
Do explain how it can be rational to expect a person who has been thrown out his home, locked up in a ghetto, sent to a transit camp, then on to either a concentration camp or an extermination camp before finally surviving a death march to have kept a property deed.

They came up with a better idea. Give us 65,000,000 dollars and we will call it even and stop our smearing campaign. Are you part of that campaign?

Actually it is you and Jewish sources but nevermind that small point. Do please explain precisely how much influence the WJC had over the Nazi party.

WJC and other world Jewish organizations had plenty of influence then and now over allied notions' government, however, they were not interested in saving all the Jews. They were interested in saving a few young ones to start Israel. The plan worked. Allied nations were not interested in saving the Jews either and in fact didn't want to allow any large numbers of Jews into their countries. The Nazis were suseptible to bribes and deals fell through because Jewish organizations failed to supply the money. If you are interested, I can point you to the right literature on this subject.

No, I am accusing you of abandoning your country in her hour of need in your search for comfortable toilet paper. The truth hurts doesn't it?

You are calling me a Jew who abandoned his country in her hour of need. You are accusing Jews who emigrated from Poland of abandoning their country in her hour of need just so they can have comfortable toilet paper. Bravo!

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