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Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
26 Jun 2007 /  #31
I would just like to add!!! we all learned our history... now its time to learn from it!!!!!
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #32
Dude is posting anti-Polish provocations

WHAT????

What I posted was just TWO little jewish stories, told by Jews....you can find lot's of it on the net.

You call THAT anti-polish provocations????

Pat you are to good for this world...erm...forum! :)

....wow...just made my 500. post....*pats himself on back*
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
26 Jun 2007 /  #33
Dude is posting anti-Polish provocations, sometimes It's funny, but not all the time.

the only reason he posts anything anti polish is when someone is jumping down
his throat.. so to speak..

He stopped posting and was having normal conversation, and then someone else
we all know and yell at kept trying to instagate more!!

I wont point fingers. but he knows who he is.. and intelligence begins with common
sense to be tactful and know when to stop..

Yeah puzzy.. your intelligence was missing when you called Miranda a name

I like Brat. hes actually very intelligent. and I am sure in person is not the picture
people get of him here..

and I say that with respect..
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Jun 2007 /  #34
the only reason he posts anything anti polish is when someone is jumping down
his throat.. so to speak..

Give me a break, dude either has a poor sense of humor or is a real psychopat. He came here to spread anti-Polish garbade, 3 normal posts don't change that.
Patrycja19  61 | 2679  
26 Jun 2007 /  #35
Greg, he stumbled upon this site by accident.. when he read the posts , he became
angry,, of course he would. just like you would if you came across a german forum
talking about Polish..

now puzzler.. yes, he is pro poland, but he obviously forgot how use manners.
especially when it comes to treatin ladies bad.. and everyone seems to become
a poloniaphobic to him..

canada is right next door to me.. ive always loved canada.. beautiful country
and nothing against any of them.
TheKruk  3 | 308  
26 Jun 2007 /  #36
Sure some Poles pillaged jewish and german homes. But it probably was a minority, The Russian soldiers were by all accounts the worst towards everyone in the newly occupied Polish(former german) territory although there were roving bands of Polish toughs too.

After every war there are those with no scruples who steal and swindle for personal gain it is not limited to any nationality.
And if you were a Pole kicked out of your home in the East how would you behave to the germans when you saw them in the west where you were relocated. Although there are tales of Polish families living in the homes of german families around Wroclaw waiting until the german family could leave.
paul atreides  
26 Jun 2007 /  #37
Didn't Poles kill returning jewish refugees after the war fearing to have to give back all the stolen belongings?

Are you nuts? What Poles? And who kills who? Do you know Berman name? Are you kidding or just jealous idiot?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #38
Ever read Jan Gross' "Fear" or "Neighbours" (about Jedwabne)? Famous book...outside of Poland I think....some reading would help you out...of course anti-polish crap I know....

amazon.com/Fear-Anti-Semitism-Poland-After-Auschwitz/dp/0812967461/ref =sr_1_1/002-0899577-5985612?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182886313&sr=8-1
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Jun 2007 /  #39
Ever read Jan Gross' "Fear"?

Gross tried to make money in Poland writing about Jewish involvment in stalinistic crimes, once he figured out that It's not a good business, he left to America and begun to write anti-Polish trash.

Who is the idiot here, huh?

You...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #40
Now isn't that curious that whenever someone is criticizing Poles it becomes either "anti-polish crap" or "anti-polish provocations"???

What's wrong with you???

I will be generous and tell you a little secret:

Accepting wrong doings doesn't make you a weakling but gives you a better image internationally!
Denying it makes you look stupid (especially as there is so much evidence)....think about it if you have a functioning braincell left!
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Jun 2007 /  #41
Now isn't that curious that whenever someone is criticizing Poles it becomes either "anti-polish crap" or "anti-polish provocations"???

When someone bring that in a topic not really connected with this issue than what else this is ?

And generally when a nation with the highest number of "righteous gentiles" and 3 million of own deads in WW2 is blamed for Holocaust almost as much as your tribe and much much more than those which had collaboration governments and own SS units than what else It is ? "Anti-semitism" simply became offensive weapon against Poland and Poles and is often used by non-Jews (sometimes even Gerries like in this case which is hillarious) who definately don't give a damn about Jews, only wants to **** us off.

whenever someone is criticizing Poles

Definitely not "whenever".
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #42
When someone bring that in a topic not really connected with this issue than what else this is ?

After this idiot "Gad" redirected a valiant question about the search for jewish belongings to the german and russian embassies I just said that a search between Poles might have as much success...

And generally when a nation with the highest number of "righteous gentiles" and 3 million of own deads in WW2 is blamed for Holocaust almost as much as your tribe and much much more than those which had collaboration governments and own SS units than what else It is ? "Anti-semitism" simply became offensive weapon against Poland and Poles and is often used by non-Jews (sometimes even Gerries like in this case which is hillarious) who definately don't give a damn about Jews, only wants to **** us off.

Face it...as long as you deny what happened so long people will be only to happy to point your nose into the crap again and again...too much evidence buddy!

I doubt we Germans are the worst pointer....:)
We earned us ourselves a world wide quite good reputation for owning up to past crimes and trying to amend whereas Poland has a miserable image in that regard!
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
26 Jun 2007 /  #43
And generally when a nation with the highest number of "righteous gentiles" and 3 million of own deads in WW2 is blamed for Holocaust almost as much as your tribe and much much more than those which had collaboration governments and own SS units than what else It is ? "Anti-semitism" simply became offensive weapon against Poland and Poles and is often used by non-Jews (sometimes even Gerries like in this case which is hillarious) who definately don't give a damn about Jews, only wants to **** us off.

A very good point Grzegorz. Germany now basically has everything, a strong and prosperous economy and a good present image. There is only one thing missing to be able to be fully proud of being German in Europe these days, namely a praiseworthy past. The WWII stigma won't be that easy to get rid off. In order to do that one would have to find a nation to pas the blame on.

Jesus, look at this statements:

Didn't Poles kill returning jewish refugees after the war fearing to have to give back all the stolen belongings?

Poles raided the homes from Jews who were transported to the Ghettos, Poles raided the homes of Germans who were expelled...if you search for something my money is still on the Poles!

Not only Poles were riding Jewish abandoned houses ( yeah right, Germans were scrupulous enough to remember to pull out golden teeth from Jews mouths, but they forgot to take precious things left behind in their houses) but also poor and innocent German homes! Does anyone see a pattern here? And then, at the end of the day, they will tell you that Poles are the ones that live in the past. Hahaha…

Sorry Brat, as much as I admit that poles don’t have the monopoly on being righteous people I can not and never will even compare Polish and German attitude to Jews during the WWII. Drop the farce.
Meg  1 | 38  
26 Jun 2007 /  #44
I allways wonderd if Polish peopole even this days are fineding some jewish stuff (like picturs, candel holders,books, and so on) in apartaments where jews yoused to live ...or in basements... becoas I know that when the jews went to Auschwitz or other camps, they left there hous's like they were and took hardly nothing with them.

I would recommend looking up Jewish sites and, if possible, making contacts with Jewish folks in Poland. In my initial research into things Polish, I've found two Jewish sites that look good. One is jewish.org.pl, though it's in Polish only (several links to it note it as English/Polish bilingual, but clearly it isn't). All their stuff looks really interesting though - for example, they have a big story up already on the cornerstone laying for the Museum of the History of Polish Jews that took place in Warsaw today.

Also, the Polish Jews Forum looks like it might be helpful - it is definitely in English and Polish! However, the forum part itself looks like it's only in Polish. :^( Still, you might be able to get some information there.

Unfortunately (until one knows Polish much better, anyway!), most Polish-Jewish websites seem to be Polish only.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Jun 2007 /  #45
as long as you deny what happened

And what exactly happened my dear sausage... ?
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #46
Drop the farce.

Which farce?

Do you call the jewish experiences I posted a "farce"...is Gross' work a farce?

I'm not interested in comparing...
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
26 Jun 2007 /  #47
I allways wonderd if Polish peopole even this days are fineding some jewish stuff

Many people in Poland, when they knew something was going to happen, hid many things in a nearby wood or forest. Some dug a hole in the garden and buried everything.

When the russians came they had no respect for anything and whatever was left was destroyed. I have found all manner of broken things in the garden. No treasure yet.

In some areas of nowadays Poland the Jewish population might have left before WWII started.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #48
And what exactly happened my dear sausage... ?

Read the links!

(What did you actually learn in school?)

Says it all really:

shalom-magazine.com/Article.php?id=460306

"...In terms of complicity in Holocaust crimes, Poland is clearly not Lithuania or Latvia, but “Operation: Last Chance” has exposed the deep denial still widespread in Polish society regarding the role played by individual Poles in the murder of Jews during the Shoa. Obviously, if any Polish Holocaust perpetrators will ultimately be prosecuted thanks to O:LC, that would be a significant victory,but forcing Polish society to face the complicity of individual Poles in the crimes which contributed to the annihilation of one of Europe’s largest and most important Jewish communities is also a worthwhile achievement. ..."

Do it or leave it....but the "pointers" won't go away...and they aren't Germans...
zion  
26 Jun 2007 /  #49
word !!!!
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
26 Jun 2007 /  #50
Do it or leave it....but the "pointers" won't go away...and they aren't Germans...

And all that time I thought that you really are German. :)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #51
Come on Maty...all these links and thousands more...no Germans...
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Jun 2007 /  #52
Do you call the jewish experiences I posted a "farce"...is Gross' work a farce?

Gross' "work" is a farce for sure and in case of "experiences" there's so many of them that one always can find some, which support his opinion.

We were forced to accept Russian version of our own history for too long and you must be out of your mind If you think that now we will accept yours and you will be pushing on us your own guilt. Your granparents created the most perverted regim in the history of mankind, which destroyed our country and killed millions of Poles, we were fighting against your tribmen from Norawy to Africa and from France and UK to the eastern front and saying that now we should accept some "guilt" is so ridiclous that It's not even funny.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #53
Do it or leave it....

Your granparents created the most perverted regim in the history of mankind, which destroyed our country and killed millions of Poles,

Anti-German crap!

Would you please stop those anti-german provocations!
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Jun 2007 /  #54
Anti-German crap!

No... I'm sorry sausage but your tribmen had been the biggest perverts ever and watching you in black leather trousers and t-shirts with Hasselhoff I have serious doubts that you really changed.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #55
Just another anti-german provocation!!!
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
26 Jun 2007 /  #56
So you say that I force them to wear Hasselhoff t-shirts ??
Matyjasz  2 | 1543  
26 Jun 2007 /  #57
Just another anti-german provocation!!!

A typical germanophobic attitude displayed by Poles, innit BB. Accusing poor, innocent German Nazis of atrocities committed during the WWII. Actually I'm sure it was Poles standing behind the holocaust, etc… geeezz:>
Gad  
26 Jun 2007 /  #58
After this idiot "Gad"

I see, you call me for some kind "Bratwurstboy" duel. OK. But after all fighting, we can end up as friends, and that`s what I am afraid of.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11820  
26 Jun 2007 /  #59
A typical germanophobic attitude displayed by Poles, innit BB. Accusing poor, innocent German Nazis of atrocities committed during the WWII. Actually I'm sure it was Poles fault standing behind the holocaust, etc… geeezz:>

GENAU!

So you say that I force them to wear Hasselhoff t-shirts ??

Why else should they wear them??? :)

I see, you call me for some kind "Bratwurstboy" duel. OK. But after all fighting, we can end up as friends, and that`s what I am afraid of.

You have no chance!
My Bratwurst is longer than yours....

:)
jan72  
26 Jun 2007 /  #60
Bratwurst boy.

A few nights ago I saw a Byelorussian film called "Come and see", (Idi i smotri).

Dont know know if you have seen it - if not do.
Wont even begin to desrcribe it as I am still quite disturbed by it,
People don't change much in 60 years!

Bratwurst boy.

A few nights ago I saw a Byelorussian film called "Come and see", (Idi i smotri).

Dont know know if you have seen it - if not do.
Wont even begin to desrcribe it as I am still quite disturbed by it,
People don't change much in 60 years!

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