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Is moving to UK now a good idea? - antipolish prejudice of the Brits


Wroclaw Boy
13 Aug 2011 #31
I think the people who damaged or stole anything should be blinded like the child from slum dog millionare.

I think you should be strung backwards over a sacrificial shrine and have your fcuking head chopped off, for being such a judgmental, media manipulated drone. With little to no understanding of the underlying issues that drove a nation to take such drastic action.

Fcuking yanks.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #33
Good point, WB. Whilst stealing is not right, you have to look beyond the Conservatives' justification of why they did it. Maybe the OP poster should be alert when in the UK as there will be a backlash against immigrants by scapegoating them. However, for now, they are manifesting their discontent against the government.
pip 10 | 1,659
13 Aug 2011 #34
Fcuking yanks.

don't hold back.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #35
We don't need any stirring of the hornets' nest. Most Brits have tolerated their harsh realities.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,849
13 Aug 2011 #36
these riots are nothing to do with Monica whotsit being Polish..it was just a dramatic photo now being exploited by the media and being used to whip up anti immigrant hatred...Mrs. Mom, do NOT BUY INTO it!!

anarkismo.net/article/20316
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #37
The BBC is good at that. 9/11, Srebrenica, take your pick.
JustysiaS 13 | 2,240
13 Aug 2011 #38
I personally would like to hear Poles take on daily life in Britain, what it's like for them.

during the riots or in general lol? i never experienced any animosity because of where I'm from, had some problems with fellow Poles living in the area (long story) but the local people are nice, most of the time they don't really pay attention to where one is from. if they have a problem with it, they won't show it or say it to your face (not many tend to be direct), they'll write to a redneck newspaper or log on this forum lol. if the thread author has a job offer, speaks English and is familiar with all the paperwork they'll need (WRS and National Insurance) to work legally then I wouldn't discourage them and wouldn't let them be discouraged by peed off Londoners who seem to be the minority in their city now. the money is still better here and the standard of living, even on a minimum wage, is comfortable. plenty of Polish food and shops, people are familiar with some Polish phrases (mainly swearwords lol) and they'll be friendly as long as you're not being an ignorant ass. less bureacuracy (unless you're applying for benefits I hear), only a short flight away, give it a go.
Wroclaw Boy
13 Aug 2011 #39
I dont think many of us can contribute more than we already have to this thread, its the same people with the same opinions. Divided we stand - gotta love democracy....democracy and the internet is our savior. I dont see any other way really, just get rid of the media and we can have a general unbiased opinion on all things.

I hate the media, i never buy it, i was actually reading the Daily mail the other day whilst waiting for my breakfast in a UK cafe and i honestly couldn't believe what i was reading. Talk about right wing. fcuking unbelievable. Brainwashing at its finest.

Just went over your thread Justys and no bones to pick, where are you in Hampshire at the moment? im in Hampshire.
Forfour44 9 | 94
13 Aug 2011 #40
I think you should be strung backwards over a sacrificial shrine and have your fcuking head chopped off, for being such a judgmental, media manipulated drone.

So you think it's right to pilfer?
I do not mind people protesting at all, as long as they do not hurt anyone.
Would you like it if they burnt your house or life down?

Who are you calling a yank? Why did you bring that up? I'm British.
pip 10 | 1,659
13 Aug 2011 #41
Talk about right wing. fcking unbelievable. Brainwashing at its finest.

this is for you

truth-out.org/14-propaganda-techniques-fox-news-uses-brainwash-americans/1309612678
Wroclaw Boy
13 Aug 2011 #42
Would you like it if they burnt your house or life down?

Not that shite again, thats not the point, its a small piece of the puzzle. Of course i wouldnt.

I do not mind people protesting at all, as long as they do not hurt anyone.

Well, let the people protest and then the government does nothing, people will get hurt and thousands die every die just that we dont see it in our streets. Dont be such an ignorant ass.

Who are you calling a yank? Why did you bring that up? I'm British.

Because you sound like a yank. Obviously.

So you think it's right to pilfer?

I dont know what pilfer means, i could google it but im not going too.

[quote]this is for you/quote]
Cheers read a few lines but thats it.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #43
Pilfer means steal, WB
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
13 Aug 2011 #44
I started to wonder whether moving there is such a good idea.

My advice. Don't go.

go back to poland if England is not up to your high standards

I went ;)
Wroclaw Boy
13 Aug 2011 #45
Pilfer means steal, WB

Thanks Seanus, to answer his question yeah i think its absolutely OK to Pilfer, pilfer as much as you can, we get pilfered on a daily basis anyway.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #46
WB, no worries.

Peter, do tell :)
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
14 Aug 2011 #47
Probably all this woman wants is a place to live and work that isn't hostile. It is what most people want no matter where they are but there's so many crazy fools in the world, no such place exists.
stinkybugger - | 56
14 Aug 2011 #48
I may have some job offers waiting for me in the UK but I started to wonder whether moving there is such a good idea. I mean, I'm proud of being Polish and wouldn't accept being treated as a second class citizen. I also wouldn't like hearing that I should go back to where I came from.

Come to the UK, newspapers and comments on websites news articles are very extreme and not from the majority of people. I read loads during the riot and it was like 'what!' it's rubbish and you have ta take it with a pinch of salt...so ignore it...sometimes even laugh at it, because there is ignorance out there.

When you are here you will recognise this and realise most people are wonderful.
It's important that you find out what places are like first hand and see that people are very accepting and if you are a good person then you will be treated well.
modafinil - | 418
14 Aug 2011 #49
If you are the type of idiot like Konczyk to judge the entire nation because of a fraction of the population then by all means stay with 'mom'. As for being a second class citizen, you have said you are thinking of coming here as an economic migrant not for citizenship at all, nothing you say suggests you are interested in anything else.

I had a look at the comments on The Sun and most were about her outlook, not about her being Polish at all. Tell me I'm uncivilised, I too will tell you where you can go...not because you are Polish but because you have a choice.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
14 Aug 2011 #50
plenty of Polish food and shops, people are familiar with some Polish phrases (mainly swearwords lol) and they'll be friendly as long as you're not being an ignorant ass. less bureacuracy (unless you're applying for benefits I hear), only a short flight away, give it a go.

Well said JustysiaS.

Even though I have never been to Britain, your description of the British sounds fair and accurate to me. Brits are like anybody else. If your in their country and show them respect, they will respect you. If you act like an ignorant ass then naturally they won't be friendly to you.

In my opinion, the British have to be one of the most lenient people there are. The UK is not set up like the US which is set up to handle immigrants although I think we have too many now, but that's another topic for another time. As for the UK, they seem to be letting just about anyone in and giving them all types of benefits and goodies, which I think unfortunately may be contributing to creating an underclass that has an entitlement mentality.

It's important that you find out what places are like first hand and see that people are very accepting and if you are a good person then you will be treated well.

stinkybugger I agree with you too. No doubt some media is fueling unnessary tension in Britain to sell papers and perhaps keep attention away from the negative things of certain media barons.

You are right that most people in general will be friendly to you, if you are friendly to them no matter who you are.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
14 Aug 2011 #51
2 million Poles emigrating to the UK

Are you on crack? the number in under 1 million-with most commentators saying its around 700 000.

You have to remember, people whom post in the Sun are a) Thick as **** b)

I must say that is a pretty poor opinion on the vast majority of Brits-who happen to read the sun (most popular selling newspaper)

one thing "my mom", you did neglect to mention that the woman in question has just appeared on the front of "the SUn" newspaper with HER quote as the headline saying "ENGLAND IS SICK"
So your concerns and quotes were slightly out of context. Really, what kind of comments did she/you expect?

She was just repeating the comments made by the British Prime Minister, so I don't know you tell me?

Coming from someone who can be generally considered to be an anglophile. I would advise you to follow the best job option you get, if it is a choice between the US and the UK with similar conditions, i would choose the UK hands down. However if it is a choice between some other EU country and the UK, than i would choose that other EU country unless you have some special passion or interest in the UK. It has to be said that there is an underlying current of Polanophobia among the British 'working class'-I use the inverted commas advisedly because many of them have given up on work a very long time ago, it is probably generated by a fear of competition. And the UK is a bit saturated by the Poles at the moment, times are going to get harder and you know what happens when people feel the pinch, they look for someone to blame.

At least the likelihood of the lower classes being as degenerate as in the UK in some other EU country is rather remote (given the British lower class embrace of what Starkey terms as black culture-probably should be more appropriately termed as gang culture).
pip 10 | 1,659
14 Aug 2011 #52
this is for you

good grief- don't be such an ar#se. It is not insulting towards you at all. It is actually comical because it makes sense and you can see what it describes --it is also very useful information.
modafinil - | 418
14 Aug 2011 #53
2 million Poles emigrating to the UK

Are you on crack? the number in under 1 million-with most commentators saying its around 700 000.

That's the turnover figure. the million now arn't the same ones, some reach their financial goals or hate UK and go back to Poland or another EU country.

She was just repeating the comments made by the British Prime Minister, so I don't know you tell me?

Cammy said 'pockets of society are sick' ,putting it mildly.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
14 Aug 2011 #54
Cammy said 'pockets of society are sick' ,putting it mildly.

He also said that Britain is broken, so it seems they are pretty much on the same chapter.

That's the turnover figure. the million now arn't the same ones, some reach their financial goals or hate UK and go back to Poland or another EU country.

Right like i said before the number of Poles in the UK is closer to the million mark, instead of the 2 million figure. Still a big number, but there is a bit of a discrepancy between 0.7 million and 2 million.
Wroclaw Boy
14 Aug 2011 #55
Right like i said before the number of Poles in the UK is closer to the million mark, instead of the 2 million figure. Still a big number, but there is a bit of a discrepancy between 0.7 million and 2 million.

how many in total do you think have come to the UK thats including all the ones that worked for a few months then went back. If the figures 1 million in the UK right now, what would be the total figure for all Polish workers that emigrated? 1,800,000 at least i reckon.
isthatu2 4 | 2,703
14 Aug 2011 #56
Good posts media watch. et al.
Rather amusing though that the one disputing the figures and conditions in the UK lives on exactly the opposite side of the planet.........................
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
14 Aug 2011 #57
how many in total do you think have come to the UK thats including all the ones that worked for a few months then went back. If the figures 1 million in the UK right now, what would be the total figure for all Polish workers that emigrated? 1,800,000 at least i reckon.

Well no it wouldn't, at least not according to the most credible sources, besides people not only go to the UK, they also leave the place. The most common figure used is 700 000.

isthatu2

Good posts media watch. et al.
Rather amusing though that the one disputing the figures and conditions in the UK lives on exactly the opposite side of the planet.........................

What is amusing is your stretching of the truth and double standards

Even the racist daily mail thinks that the figure is closer to a million:
" Polish population in the UK soars from 75,000 to more than HALF A MILLION in eight years"

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391151/Polish-population-UK-soars-75-000-HALF-A-MILLION-8-years.html

You already had a historical lesson from me, perhaps you would like a demographic one?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
14 Aug 2011 #58
Although official sources can have agendas too, they are more reliable than those of newspapers. Why not quote some of their figures? The point is that some perceive the Poles to have stolen employment away from them. Right or wrong, we have to start from that premise.
modafinil - | 418
14 Aug 2011 #59
He also said that Britain is broken, so it seems they are pretty much on the same chapter.

No. As I have said that woman, Monika Cocksick, or whatever, has taken a very few to judge all like some of the fools I get a taste of on this site. The phrase Broken Britain is regarding social cohesion - the haves and the hopeless separated by issues such as wealth, education, drink and drug use,, criminality, teenage pregnancy...
Midas 1 | 571
14 Aug 2011 #60
Looking at TS's original post

I may have some job offers waiting for me in the UK but I started to wonder whether moving there is such a good idea. I mean, I'm proud of being Polish and wouldn't accept being treated as a second class citizen. I also wouldn't like hearing that I should go back to where I came from.

UK is not my only choice so I don't see a point in going there if I can get a better treatment somewhere else. Will British kids throw stones at me and will I be questioned by the police once a local swan goes missing or are we talking more subtle forms of resentment here?

By all means if you're worried by such examples of anti-Polish behaviour feel free to take your highly-in-demand and professional persona to another country.

I could probably fill a book full of antipolish comments coming from British people. So, I reckon, I should just mark Britain as "antipolish and racist" on my map and ignore any offers that come from there?

And I could probably fill two books with anti-British comments made by some Polish people. Just read the thread about the "English Yobs in Cracow" on this forum. So what?

The United Kingdom is a country with a long history of tolerance for outsiders. It has accepted waves after waves of people coming from very different cultures ( Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Chinese, people from the Carribean, Greeks, loads of Eastern Europeans since 2004 ) and has endured. I cannot honestly imagine Poland taking in 2.000.000 British people over the course of a couple of years right now, especially if said people went on to compete for jobs with the Polish.


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