Salary expectations in Poland

TruthaboutPolan
you write like an add. It's patronizing and slightly insulting. You don't have to capitalize the IMPORTANT words.

back (slightly) on topic...

Glassdoor has 80 something salaries for jobs in Poland
glassdoor.com/index.htm

My friend from the tax office just told me that here in Warsaw the average salary is 5400 zl (gross) and in Poland as a whole it is 3200 zl (gross).

Apparently this is the very latest figure.

Good God! If that is what they tell the taxman they earn, imagine what they must really be earning!

Well he was not that far off, mind you as a rule life is cheaper in smaller cities, Warsaw gets the highest pay but also the highest living costs.

I was surprised, and didn't ask him/her how they arrived at the figure. I don't know if it's for public consumption or just internal statistics for policymaking.

difficult to get 1000 euros definitly should be a MNC.

Well, being a Southern European and living here for 4 years, I should say that this is a nice country.

Of course each country has its own advantages and disadvantages, so it depends on each person how will feel it.

Salaries are quite bad, but if you are able to get some international experience it may be a big plus.

Bureaucracy is a big minus. Polish institutions can be a pain even for Southern Europeans like me. It makes me crazy everytime I must solve something in Government or at any services.

Protection for Consumers is quite bad and even in Krakow it may be difficult to manage well without knowing the polish basics.

Warsaw has better salaries, better offers and I would say a much higher standard of service, but is the capital, so you have the minus of being in a crowded place.

Poles are friendly and I felt very safe here. Krakow is a great place for having a social life and enjoy cultural and night life.

Prices in Krakow or Warsaw are just like in Europe nowadays. Of course food is still cheaper, but if you are not careful you will end by paying the same as in Madrid, Lisbon, Rome or Paris.

Salaries have increased but prices have increased also, even faster.

Prices of property is very much over real value, as there are very few support infrastructures.

Traveling by car reminds the 50's or 60's in Western Europe. Hospital Service is to forget, pay a nice medical insurance if you want to avoid headaches.

Climate is very bad in Winter and nice in Summer. But houses are prepared for cold, so you will manage.

Traveling to other countries is a plus, because you are in center of Europe. From here you may fly to different capitals quite cheap and after reaching border you have nice access to main cities from other countries.

I would say that if you have some reason to live here (wife, friends, business...) it is just fine and pleasant. If you have rather financial objectives and high living standard, avoid to move to Poland. It's a great experience for a limited time, apart from those who have sentimental connection to it (as me) :)

All the best!

i want to know what is the income in international trade (Export & Import) field. and Monthly Daily living expanses ? i want figur in EURO

And you are just to stupid to realize that the two are incompatible and seem to have a serious inferiority complex.

poland doesn't have the euro.. it has the zloty.. also, read the whole thread and search the forums. a lot of that info is around here.


incompatible or not they are not mutually exclusive..

There are quite a few jobs for expats in international companies especially real estate linked. I would say as a starter salary it would be about 6-8000 plz before tax and include private medical insurance and gym membership.

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Suggested income to live in Poland?

Hi,

Im planning to move and live in Poland and just want to know a reliable information from real people if how much should I earn monthly to have a simple and decent life there.

Im not into any luxurious lifestyle coz im not into that kind of life.

Thanks in advance.

Hey guys. I was wondering, how much do dentists make in Poland? It seems like no one really knows how much they make. I looked throughout the forum, and no one really provided me with an answer. I was just wondering if anyone knows how much dentists make.

4000 net To live alone in T1 appartment in Poznan or Wroclaw and travel once a year abroad is ok?

It's very confusing the information here. Some people says that with 2500 net you can do well, some says that with 2500 you will not finish the month. Some says that with 4000 you as well will not finish the month...

I know that everyone has a lifestyle different, but I mean an average lifestyle: Studio, bills, food and Weekend out.

About the salary, I've two offers of two bigs multinationals, one from Wroclaw and another from Poznan, I'm brazilian and I'm going to finish studies of engineering next june, I speak Portuguese and Spanish at bilingual level and medium french. Do you guys think that if I ask 4000 net it's reasonable salary for my qualifications?

Cheers everyone :)

I started at 7500zl brutto as Project Manager for an American company. Just had a performance review and I am set to make about 10,000zl brutto starting June 1st. If you provide value, you can make pretty "good" money in Poland - especially for Polish standards.

Seems quite reasonable for your first year.

Ignore what you read on here - you can get a flat for around 1,000zl if you look around, and ignore most of the rubbish online about prices - for someone in your situation, 4000zl a month will be fine as a fresh graduate.

It depends on multiple factors. From 2.000 to 20.000 a month.

How much earn dentist in Poland? Pay depends on the length of the dentist , specialization, the medium in which the village is working , whether in private practice or working in a public clinic. Therefore, the difference between earnings in this profession are gigantic .

There is no shortage of dentists earning over 10 thousand . zł net , there are those who receive the hand approx. 1.5 thousand . zł . There is always a dentist salary is adequate to his abilities - sometimes overpay , because the dentist 's office takes with marble tiles.

Young dentist after graduation must complete an internship , after which receives the right to exercise the profession. Therefore, initially can count on about a thousand golden salary seniority . With time wages are rising , but still a dentist in the first year of work on the big money does not count .

1.4 thousand . zł net

Hello!

Nice forum, with lot of good information.

I'm Danish and thinking about moving to Poland

I have a question to you, about living and earnings in Poland.

I found this job, and I'm thinking of seeking it.

toplanguagejobs.co.uk/job/1157151/IT-Customer-Service-with-Danish

But what can I expect/demand in salary? - Before and after taxes.

They need a Danish speaking person in Poland, so I guess they are willing to pay a decent salary, or else it's difficult to get a fluent Danish and English speaking person to Poland.

I have just finished my university studies, and am now a Master of Science in Public Administration, so no experience from former jobs.
I'm aware, that it's not a goldmine, to work in Poland. But I expect to live a decent live and not turn every coin. - I also got a student debt in Denmark to pay (about 200€ pr month).

But the main reason to seek the job, is try to live in Poland for at few years, not to be rich :)
I would also be very glad, if you could help me with cost of living in Poznan.

Thanks!

@ MartinDenmark.

If I were you, I would look for a better place than Poland. I've done 5 years here and can't wait to go back to my home country. 1 month and it's airport time.

You will make better money in another country and your life will be easier. Take it from me.

Most people in this country are liars, cheaters, and scammers. They will fleece you any chance they get. Seriously- they are like mosquitoes and you are a big blood filled sack with an easy permeable layer.

All contracts mean nothing. They never hold up in a court of law. They are all open to interpretation. Prosecutors are lazy and don't take your evidence into account and deny your right to a trial so you must go through appeals. Pathetic.

The majority of workers in businesses just "maintain the minimum", meaning- they just do as little as possible to keep their jobs and earn their pay, and don't give a ____ about the customer.

The police do nothing to help you. As far as they are concerned- you are a parasite and not worth helping. My non-Polish friend had all his ID (passport/drivers license/residency card) stolen and the police wouldn't even take a report of the incident. He couldn't get help from other government offices because he didn't have a police report of the stolen ID- so they could not verify he is who he claims to be. It's been since April, and he still doesn't have a report and keeps getting the run around from his country's embassy and the local city hall. What a joke.

You can buy 1 liter of Tymbark orange juice for say 2.25zł, and then see the 2 liter box for 2,75zl. Go check this. It happens all the time in Carrefour/Real. What is the sense of this marketing? Does no one figure this out?

I've made friends with foreign nationals of other countries living in my town, and I've heard so many horror stories about how they got a job, but never get paid on time. Usually 2 months late, or even not at all. All the Polish nationals got paid. WTF?

I suggest recording with your phone or with a camera (audio/video) all important transactions, such as signing contracts, negotiating. Poles have a great way of going back on the things they have agreed to and promised. But wait...your "proof(recordings) won't help you in court, even when both parties are aware of the event being recorded.

Customer service here sucks. No one cares about the customer. You are a PITA for the employees.

You will hear "this is Poland, you must speak Polish" over & over & over by arrogant idiots that hide behind their poor language skills.

For example: that guy at the computer shop has great English all the times you went to buy something or ask a question, but when you need them to service your computer and it's taken 2 months for what would be a simple repair and you are getting agitated by the time gone by and press him as to why it's taking so long, that same guy "forgot his English all of a sudden" and you will get that aforementioned chant.

You are just a customer...nothing special.

You will pay higher prices for things than a Pole. I bought 4 large nectarines in Netto today and it cost me 1,78zl. I went to the lady selling fruits and veggies across the street from Netto and her price was 4,23zl for four equally sized nectarines. Of course she has the weight and unit price on the scale obscured by watermelons/dill/parsley.

5 years ago when my friends said that I was choosing the worst country in all of Europe to live in and now I see they were right.

It's just not worth it. I can't wait to be gone.

*end rant

Now what did you want to know again? ;)

Do you know which company it's with? might want to do a search on the company and the word "pensja".


Dunno, I've bought, sold, chartered, and maintained aircraft here with no problem on the contract, quality, or payment side of things.

Hi “unique_username”
Thanks for the story! The easy answer to your question, “why go to Poland?”. - It is the adventure to live in a former east country, before I settle down with family, child and so on.

In aware that it isn’t the same high standard of corruption level and public service/police help, as I have in my own Nordic country.

But as you point out, I expect to get my salary at time every month. That’s the least to expect!
I’m very sorry to hear your story. That’s scares me! But can I ask, why you chosen to stay for five years anyway??

I think that this job requires a specialist.--you should be able to earn good money. I wouldn't know where to start with an estimate but I would think something like 8,000 pln- if not more.

I live in Warsaw so this is not an outrageous amount.
I am not sure how much to believe about that guys story up there. I have lived in Warsaw for 9 years without any problems. My husband works with a Danish guy who is married to a Pole and he is quite happy here.

I would expect the company, even though it is international, will give you a low ball number- see if you can find an initial offer then judge from there. Also because you receive a lot of benefits living in Danmark- I mean health care, good education- you should expect it equally in Poland. You should have medicover paid for and quite possibly a relocation fee or something like that.

I have a Polish friend who works for Skanska- he has great benefits.

If it was so bad, why not leave straight away?


But you'll also pay a lot more money for basic things, and you can forget about accessible private healthcare on an ad-hoc basis, unlike in Poland. Here, I can see a private specialist for 90zl for a consultation. In the West? Forget about it.


Hahaha. And what makes you think that elsewhere is any different?

Most people in this country aren't liars, cheaters and scammers - they're ordinary people. In fact, if you surround yourself with liars, cheaters and scammers - no wonder you're so unhappy.

Just because you got a dodgy contract from a language school (that you probably couldn't read anyway) doesn't mean that all contracts are the same. In fact, Poland is quite good in this respect - because everything must be in accordance with the relevant legal acts. A well drawn up contract should present no issues - and is easy to enforce. If you sign something that isn't right - well - who else to blame but yourself?

Again - if you shop at bottom level places, no wonder you're treated like that. I recommend shopping in a better class of establishment.


Suuure they wouldn't take a report. It's not hard - you go to the local police station and make one.


That's quite normal in any European country. And it makes sense.


That's your problem - you're making friends with foreigners who haven't got a clue.


A promise means nothing - haven't you ever done any business with people in places like Italy? The only thing that matters is a contract that was drawn up in accordance with the law in Poland. If you don't know the laws - pay someone that does. And in Poland, contract law is pretty straightforward - again - you're basing your tales on the woes of stupid foreigners.


Wrong, again. Perhaps so in low class establishments, but that's the same anywhere.


Well yeah, when in a country, if you want to do business, you either speak the language or get someone that does. I mean, haven't you ever visited France/Spain/Italy/UK?


Wow, your life must really suck if even small shopkeepers are screwing you over. It's never happened to me - in fact, in such shops, they're normally charmed that someone is able to use Polish. I've never, ever been overcharged by small shopkeepers.


It's because you're dealing in serious cash and not working in some awful Callan school and shopping in Netto.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys is certainly true in Poland.


Not much, actually. It doesn't require fluency - and there are plenty of graduates in Danish who also speak English.

Maybe he didn't have the chance to walk away so quickly, delph.

90PLN for a consultation? That's expensive! Why not consult a medical book?

There are liars, cheaters and scammers in quite a few places and Poles themselves readily acknowledge this. Cheating in shops like Żabka is common.

Some contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on, delph.

I also see his point about the difference between 1l and 2l being odd. Why pay almost nothing more for an extra litre when a litre itself costs 4.50PLN sometimes (Toma in Żabka, for example)? It works two ways. You can get a much bigger pizza for almost nothing more :)

Poles sometimes don't get paid in teaching either. I get paid on time more than they do.

Really?What do you people talk about?Ever heard of free market?And there is orange juice and orange juice.In my local Food Lion there is orange juice for $1.49 a litre (you don't want that one) and next to it there is orange juice for $2.99 both the same size.And it's normal that prices for the same thing differ depending on a store.Powerade drink is $1.50 at gas station and the same Powerade is $0.79 in Food Lion.What's new here?Did you come from a country where there is only one brand of mentioned orange juice and there is no choice or what?

It's not really about the brands, grubas. It's about the weird variations in prices.

As for salary expectations, it depends on the job and timing. It can change at the drop of a hat.

Thanks for all of your answers!
Even though some people had some bad experiences I Poland, I still what to try to get a job “downthere” :)
A salary about 8000, as one mentioned could be a decent salary, due to low cost of livings. But it’ll take a little bit more, if I have to move. The Danish unemployment wage is 16.600 Dkr/month (9.250 PLN), so I will try to demand something like 10000-12000 PLN, and then end on something like the Danish unemployment rate. I know it’s a very high wage I Poland, and many companies will not pay that, but that’s my minimum :)

You haven't got a chance. The job isn't aimed at native speakers, it's merely aimed at those that are capable in the languages. And - as I said - there are plenty of IT-literate graduates of Danish who can also use English.

If you get 5000/gross a month, I'd be amazed, especially in Poznan. I think I know what the job is, and if so - the job is going to pay no more than 2500/net.

(by the way - these jobs almost universally expect Polish, too)