Poland's President-Elect Duda leads in public trust - CBOS poll

I think we need to watch carefully as to what happens in the JOW referendum. Palikot has positioned himself as the leader of the anti-JOW campaign, Kukiz is obviously the leader of the pro-JOW campaign and PO/PiS seem to be "whatever, couldn't care less" about it. If they don't meet the 50% turnout, then it will be a win for Palikot and the Left - which might translate into a boost at the polls.

But PiS need to be very careful now. Duda is already making mistakes - he's admitted already that he has no intention of keeping his promises, and Szydło is showing that she can't match Kopacz's workrate in the election. PO are showing a core vote of around 25-30% that will vote for them regardless, which means that it's a bitter fight for the 10% of centrists that will decide this election.

That would be good news if PiS had a comfortable 256 seats. Otherwise the Platfusy will be tempted to continue their 10-year hate campaign, wasting more time, energy, effort and media space on their sterile and fruitless back-stabbing for the benefit of their foreign-capital and domestic scam-monger masters. With a decent president and a solid PiS parliamentary majority, Poland can resume its clean-up campaign and move the country forward.

Except the problem is that it won't be a PiS majority, but rather a coalition of three parties. Do you trust Gowin to stay in line when confronted with socialist economics, for instance?

What % support in your view do the Gowin and Ziobro factions enjoy: 2-3% maybe?

This is the question - I don't think it's more than that, but it depends on the electoral lists.

But if the situation arises where Gowin has 10 seats and PiS have 235 overall, then it could be a nasty situation for PiS if they suddenly have to deal with Gowin demanding economically liberal policies.

What will Duda do to secure return of Poles from abroad to Poland? What is his message to Polish diaspora?

Nothing probably, it isn't his job.

What? what is his job then, to secure that more Poles leave Poland?

with more Poles out of Poland, assimilation of all Poles shall fasten.

Are my Polish sisters and brothers really that blind? are they gave up from Poland already?

He's a non-executive President, Crowie. He doesn't make policy.

Anyway, nothing at all wrong with assimilation.

But he can influence policy.

Poland (and not only Poland) is country that is exposed to increased assimilation of population. Its wrong. Assimilation is equal to destruction. Slow death. Insult to all ancestors who resisted to invaders.

In practical terms such assimilation is usually the equivalent of rootlessness - the loss of one's cultural heritage and birth right in favour of culturally sterile, nondescript global Anglo-commercialism. In other words abandoning rich, time-honoured traditions and values to emrbace commercially driven trends, fads and fashions concocted on corporate drawing boards.

Rubbish. That entire post simply makes no sense whatsoever. It contains a huge contradiction and just shows a fear of anything new.

Not everyone defines themselves solely by remnants of the culture their forbears had. You just seem misanthropically afraid of any and all change, harking back to a past that never was. Perhaps Duda appeals to similar dangerously nostalgic fantasists. Most people are happy with the way the world changes.

I also detect hipocrisy in your post, since now you're attacking assimilation which you have previously praised.

As I say, rather than a reasoned political outlook, just plain misanthropy.

One of the major threats facing homo sapiens today is run-away commercialism -- which is displacing genuine tradition, family, culture, human emotions, religion and patritoism.

It is replacing positive human emotions and reactions with fads, crazes, snobbish trends, allegedly new and improved (but in actuality junkier than their predecessors) Made in China products and flashy and pricey fashions.

Many thiunking people today are obsessed with global warming and environmental pollution which are bona fide physical threats but often fail to see the mind pollution and devastation caused by the commercialisation of the human psyche -- man's heart and soul.

That's meaningless, Pol3. However much you dislike it, nowhere, not even North Korea and certainly not Poland, is frozen in time.

This Duda can no more stop that than Canute could hold back the tide.

And there's no real appetite in Poland to be anchored to a vision of the past that never existed.

Nothing to do with time periods but common sense, prudence and human decency. True misanthroipy is depriving people of a deeper appreciation of truly humanistic values for the sole purpose of brainwashing, exploting them and siphoning away their hard-earned money. Unless you beleive that to be the epitome of human achievment.

Too bad I can't recall his name -- no it wasn't a Spielberg or Woody Allen -- a third-rate Jewish Hollywood film director, but his statement which appeared in Newsweek maybe 20-25 years ago has come to symbolise the essence of commerpop. He said: "I don't make movies so people can have a better life, I make the kind of movies 12 years olds will buy a ticket to see."

That goes beyond the entertainment industry and holds true for nearly all of today's heavily advertised goods, services and lifestyles.

That example is of the film is just reality. Exactly the same in Poland and always was.

Duda and his supporters, by appealing to a demographic who hate the present, fear the future and take refuge in a past that never was (except they were young enough to deal with it better) is simply abrogating responsibilities and retreating to fantasy land.

its not.


`frozen in time`? What a delusional phrase, which purpose is just to justify tragic Polish and Poland`s situation. Its even inhumane to say something like this.


Duda have much more maneuverable space then Canute. But true, with time, with this rate of assimilation of Poles maneuverable space of Polish patriots would decrease. It would be really horrible if Poland accept fate of eternal younger player in European arena, what would happen if due to assimilation, Poland lose prefix of Slavic; Slavic Poland. For Slavic Poland is destined to initiate new Commonwealth for the good of both, Slavs and non-Slavs on the Baltic-Balkan line. That Poland, Slavic Poland can be real European power and with Commonwealth even world power. So, why would Poland accept destruction of its own future? For the sake of foreign civilization? No way


What you think, that EU`s and NATO`s `performance` in policing the world in last 30 years won`t affect Polish opinion on those organizations? It will. You think that EU`s and NATO`s, side by side with worse Arab mujaheedines of Islamic league, involvement in violation of sovereignty of Slavic countries, won`t affect Polish opinion? It will. You think that collaboration of EU`s and NATO leading powers, with bearers of Nazi ideology in Croatia and Ukraine, won`t affect Polish opinion? It will. You think that weak and even dangerous euro money won`t affect Polish opinion? It will.

Man, Poles would re-analyze values of EU. At the same time, Polish patriots would push for the Polish interests. i clearly see moment when would Poles arise against EU and decide to try Commonwealth. At least to try to walk with dignity once more. It would be maybe `last charge of the Poles` but they would try. And when they try, they won`t be alone. Many of us looks in Poland with hope. So Poles shall refuse to die in silence, in assimilation. i know that. God would bless Poland with the victory

As much as I would like you to be right Pol3, as much I fear that it is Jon who is on the right path. History has taught us that humans, like electrical current, take the path of least resistance or, said differently, prefer instant/effortless gratification to the long winding (and uphill) road of effort, whathever satisfaction might follow. And Poles are, after all, humans..

That's probably why it's been said of hyper-materialistic people like you and your fellow-Bully Brits that the English have a shopkeeper's mentality -- they know the price of everything but the value of nothing!

You do realize that you're quoting Oscar Wilde, whom you don't like very much seeing as he was in your own words 'an old perv'. Careful now........


Be fair now Pol. Most people like their creature comforts, if they can get them. I'm sure you do yourself. Wanting nice surroundings, clothes, spending money on a hobby or enjoying little treats and luxuries is normal. Hyper-materialism is something else entirely and something that few ordinary people can indulge in. Also having or wanting to have material pleasures is not wrong in itself. It's only 'wrong' when it's coupled with general selfishness and no thought for the comforts or needs of others.

in other words, only dramatic events can prevent total fall of Poland. Very interesting conclusion. Now, what it may be ...

Just crossed my mind. Poland founded itself many times in history on the edge of oblivion and then something happened what moved things in right direction. Last time it was Serbian student Gavrilo Princip

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Latest CBOS poll results: PiS 36, PO 27, Kukiz 12. A TNS Polska survey showed that 67% are dissatisfied with the performance of the current Kopacz government.

Kukiz won't hold on. He's managed to turn Telewizja Republika against him by getting into fights with them, and he's had a very clear and obvious falling out with the PiS-establishment too. Without a single sympathetic media outlet and a loss in the JOW referendum, he has no chance.

Who said an "old perv" can't come up with interesting thoughts (like "work is the curse of hte drinking class!"), just as madman butcher Adolf also gave the world the VW and Autobahn.

The latest IBRIS poll: PiS and allies 39,1%, PO 19,0%, Zjednoczona Lewica (SLD, TR, Zieloni i UP) - 8,3% Ruch Kukiza (Kukiz'15) - 7,0%, Nowoczesna Ryszarda Petru - 5,6%, Polskie Stronnictwo Ludowe (PSL) - 5,2%.


This is one of the first polls in recent times to show so many smaller parties clearing the 5% (or 8% in the case of coalitions) threshold. Many surveys have shown only PiS, PO and Kukiz.

If such results were produced by the October election, PO could team up wtih PSL and Petru but would still have only some 29% of the vote. PiS would have the option of co-opting Kukiz, although potential problems with such an unpredictable character might prove daunting. If faced with the prospect of parliamentary absence, PSL would probably join PiS in a coalition. PSL has been in every parliament in free Poland.

This is what confuses me about the seat allocation - I've seen a suggestion that such a result would mean a majority for PiS, but I don't understand how. From previous elections, 39% should mean around 200-ish seats.


It would be a huge gamble for the PSL - Kaczyński is still very much the party leader, and they will be well aware that he openly attempted to destroy his coalition partners last time in a misjudged attempt to win a majority. If they accepted such a thing, they could also hugely alienate their middle-class semi-rural electorate.

I would say - whatever happens - PiS have to stay away from Kukiz, otherwise they're headed for a repeat of the 2005-2007 government.

Duda is seen as patriot but, crucial question is what Duda says about imminent assimilation of Poles. If he don`t speak of it, then you know what clock is it.

Not by me and many others. The man openly used public cash to get to his weekend job teaching at a private university!

well, that`s it. Intersection of all what he doing and all what he says and what he fails to say, suggests that is he corrupt and controlled by Anglo-Germanic coalition.

True, but those happen to coincide with the policies of the poltical camp from which he sprang. PiS & Associates will turn the pledges into reality. They will also have to sort out and clean up the mess (test-tube babies, gender change on demand, etc.) the Platfusy leave in their wake.

I wonder if he'll last a full term of office.