Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

I would agree, I have no real problem with either of the main party's, they both seem to make mistakes and have their own problems when it comes to credibility on the global stage.


That won't happen unless an external devious extreme external powers such as Russia or the EU force their style of marxist dictatorship in Poland.

I can't see facism catching on any time soon in Poland , but be aware there are still dark forces left over from communist times eager to support all that is left wing and marxist.


We don't have a lefty liberal communist party in Poland but I think that KOD is the seed from which a worryng new extreme left wing party will grow.

This is exactly what some of them want.

no it's not, it has not very competent government doing incompetent clueless things that te country will easily survive, Poles don't do totalitarian and even martial law (the worst of the PRL) wasn't as bad as normal operations in East Germany or Romania...

Poland's apathy will keep it from crazy extremes.


uhhhh how long have you been living here now? I'm over 20 years and those "dark forces" don't exist beyond the fevered imaginations of a few rabble rousers like Rydzyk or Kaczyński.

Dunno where you live city?

I was warned about who to watch out for when I first moved here in the village, and true enough there are those that have some level of influence who are very much unhappy about the fall of communism and the old days and how that has impacted on their LivelyHoods (Cheating and scamming)

Yes, there's one of those here, but everybody just laughs at him.

what PO was trying to do by illegal ways, PiS tries to make a LEGAL STANDARD.

I strongly oppose any government that tries to hide itself from "uncomortable" questions of **various** journalists. I don't care from which option these journalists are. They may be from TVN, Polsat, TVPInfo, Tv Narodowa, TV Lewicowa, whatever.

These days, governments in so called "democratic" countries love to spy on everyone and know everyting about their citizens, yet they love to hide behind venetian mirror. That's why I oppose recent try of PiS and I fully support recent demonstrations.

No responsability, no accountability, endless posibilities to steal - this is what crooks from governments love to do. Just like they did in Hungary.Just google how does look journalists' access to parlaments in various democratic countries...Only crooked and corrupted countries like Italy or recently Hungary are doing things like that. Its not about KOD, about coup, about thiefs from PO or PiS...its about STANDARDS !

Supporters ofPiS:

I really dont care about your frustrations,its nobody else's fault that you earn 300 euros/ month.
""PiS because they will give me something, and this is what government is for. "" I bet that 70 % of Poles would signin under this, thats why we have what we have now. nationalist socialists

Demonstrations are ...

Hilarious and pathetic. Hahahahha. Those few manipulated people always make me laugh.

Exactly.


Pro-Putin Russians laugh at those anti-Putin protesters in Moscow too. They find them hilarious and pathetic too. (Oh, and they consider them to be traitors either manipulated or bought by the West). So you're in "good" company.

You're probably a fan of Putin too? :)

Poland is safe and that is most important. That`s what I see from Serbian media. That`s most important.

You forgot Kijowski, Petru, Schetyna and Komorowski. The latter is advocating physical force, but only a punch-up. Wałęsa proposes defenestration and has
said opposition should help government officials jump out of the URM's upper-storey windows.

@Paulina
Sure i am. I am "good" with all that can be good for my country. Im sure that good relations with The West and with The East are just like that.

I see no reason to polarize. We can cooperate with all. We dont have to call Russians enemies just because Hamburgerica hates them (is scared of them).

Femi-Facsism and Homo-Fascism are even worse!

Putin is now probably rubbing his mits with glee at the sight of hostilre mobs ont eh streets, blocking parliament, holding the PM and MPs hostage and trying to prevent them leaving the parliamentary grounds. The sight of such anarchy and general instability is grist to his mill. After all, he secretly hopes NATO will deicde that such a volatile and politically unstable Poland may not be the best place to deploy troops and hardware along the eastern flank. Way to go, KOD!

See, Putin have imagination, for sure. But, its not Putin who isolates Poland from Hungary and Serbia, lure Poland into political instability. Think about that.

Anglos shake Poland right now.

Before Duda came to power, official Poland recognized partition of Serbia, while police in Poland used to beat Polish children during pro-Serbian demonstrations in Poland. That`s how started political instability in Poland.

And who support Serbians within Poland? Patriots. Right winged Catholics and others. So, defending Serbians they defending their Poland. It also means that Russians now aren`t involved against Poland. Polish patriots knows that. Russia traditionally have respect for Polish-Serbian deals. Russia demonstrate it on the example of Hungary, too.

Tusk was behind Poland`s decision to recognize Kosovo. He then admitted to Polish students that he did so due to Poland`s obligations to NATO. See, Kaczinsky opposed to Tusk and defended Serbians. He traveled to Russia to talk about Serbia, among else. Serbia is probably last connecting point of balance between Poland and Russia.

See. Tusk admitted already. He worked on the pressure from western Europe, USA Clinton`s and puppet Obama. Only blind and idiots don`t see simple truth.

But, we most humiliated and most contemptible, we are most loyal to Poland. Those who attacking us, those same attacking Poland.

A fan of Putin?


Really? PiS seems to have problems with both the West and the East... lol


With the devil too? lol


You think he wasn't doing that during all those demonstrations about Smoleńsk with torches and when he watched the devastation of Warsaw during the Independence Day marches?


PiS caused this anarchy and instabilty by breaking the law and the Constitution.

Right now I don't care what Putin is rubbing, tbh, what I care about is whether my country will be a democratic, successful country and not some semi-authoritarian corrupt state ruled by incompetent, primitive idiots who can't tell democracy and rule of law from their toilet paper.

Rather with eastern the soviet(Russian_) neo-imperialism and western neo-Marxism. I would say that being enemy of both is kind of good.


What devastation? are you Sienkiewicz or Sikorski by any chance? PO done it as all and sundry already know.

Some claim that that the law of rule is possible only when the post-PZPR/post-KOR clique are in power and their backers and stoogres alone enjoy the fruits of transformation. That became especially clear when KOdists and ex-SB guys were marching shoulder to shoulder in defence of "democracy". For the Polish "rabble" (the majority of the nation) the choice is between a dead-end job in Poland or washing dishes or hammering nails in the UK.

Piutin is a sh*t, a pint-sized megalomaniac and mini-Hitler. And he won't last forever. Even the long-suffering, long-under-the-boot, incredibly patient and lethargical Russians will rise up and sweep it all away.

What then would you calll the Tusk-Kopacz regime? A construct based on ex-SB and ex-KOR types turned shady businessmen, Soros-style economics and supportive professional dynasties and entertainment-industry types, scamsters, banksters and assorted wheeler-dealer con artists. And that to you is preferable to a government of the people, by the people and for the people? As a Catholic you most certainly are for the salt of the earth, not snooty, self-styled, look-down-on-your-fellow-man elitists!

That does seem to be the case, doesn't it? For a lawyer, JK seems to hate the idea of having to follow the law.


That is just demented. No one with their eyes open can deny that Poland has benefitted enormously over the last 20 or so years, or would you prefer to go back to 1996 living standards?


If you can think that PiS is out to help anyone but themselves and their cronies, then you be crazy!

Haven't they introduced the 500+ program to help families with children?

Remind me how that's being funded.

i'm not a "catholic" Polonius, but I know more about religions and antropology than more than 80 % of so called catholica in .pl

will it make me welcome in new Poland or will I get considered as a "enemy element", "burgouiose element" or example of unneccsesary burgouis science.

How will i fit in brave new world ? ;-))

Will I get taxed with special tax because i'm different than visions from Kaczynski's and his cat's heads ?

its funded from the money of people that dared to work harder, know better and be stronger than the rest.

usually, these kind of people dont count on the government to rise and feed their kids, maybe thats why they will be considered as "strange" in brand new catho- socialist Poland....

"ostatni gasi swiatlo", like they say.
"Wodzu prowadz nas na Kowno ! "

So what draws you to poland smart arse, are you another superior know all being from another land here to educate and dictate to us poor Poles.

I think you are probably another economic looser now trapped in Poland, who cant make it in the lands where the economic big boys play.

But carry on even poor substitues are needed to fill the gaps left by our migrating graduates .

Who are the previous ones, Dolno, any ideas?

Since when were you either of those things?


An outflow that's going to be increased by the illegal actions of the 18% regime.

so you believe in Russians?