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Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.


Kezcaisim  1 | 37  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2461
I can't believe there's still people in Europe who believe that any country that's joined the EU lives in a democracy.

Dumb goys.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2462
I can't believe

So if the EU is so terrible, why is the UK going to vote on June 23rd to Remain?

Facts? I well remember Poland before the EU, and what Poland would be like if Kaczynski and his cronies were allowed to run wild, uncensored.
Ziemowit  14 | 3936  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2463
if the EU is so terrible, why is the UK going to vote on June 23rd to Remain?

If the EU is so wonderful, why is the UK going to vote to remain in it? Just to confirm that the EU is wonderful?
Crow  154 | 9258  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2464
I can't believe there's still people in Europe who believe that any country that's joined the EU lives in a democracy.

exactly pane. That`s correct. Level of obedience is much more important condition then level of democracy or democracy at all.

Dumb goys.

yes, horribly deluded
jon357  73 | 23008  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2465
Facts? I well remember Poland before the EU, and what Poland would be like if Kaczynski and his cronies were allowed to run wild, uncensored.

This is key; the effect of EU membership (and the EU is popular in Poland) has been huge.

Those here who rather stupidly suggest that there is some sort of issue with lack of freedom should ask themselves this question; what has the EU ever stopped them doing?
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2466
he effect of EU membership (and the EU is popular in Poland) has been huge.

The effect of EU membership (and the EU is popular in Poland) has been a huge loss of sovereignty and the dilution of national identity. Poland does not want to leave the EU but as a member state intends to help shape the bloc's future in the direction of a loose voluntary confederation of sovereign national state, rather than a Brussels-ruled United States of Europe. Countries should be free to opt-out of EU directives that do not serve their national interests. Ireland has opted out of involvement in any future EU military alliance, Britain as regards labour laws and Poland in family matters (pro-abortion and pro-homo stuff).

When countries such as France viołate EU agricutural policy they do not get called on the carpet the way Poland has over the TK issue. Perhaps zat is because zey have no snitchairs comme par ecemple M. Schetyne & M. Petroux!?
Harry  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2467
no snitchairs comme par ecemple M. Schetyne & M. Petroux!?

Didn't we recently read something about not using deliberate derogatory names for public figures in an attempt to bait other members? Those two men are widely respected for their work in Poland in defense of democracy. Or at least I assume you refer to Schetyna and Petru, it's a bit hard to tell, as you have deliberately mis-spelled their names. Are you referring to Schetyna and Petru?
Ziemowit  14 | 3936  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2468
Perhaps zat is because zey have no snitchairs comme par ecemple M. Schetyne & M. Petroux!?

as you have deliberately mis-spelled their names.

Et oui, M. Polonius has mizpelt ze names to give zem an elegante French look. Francja-elegancja, you see.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
6 Jun 2016 /  #2469
Are you referring to Schetyna and Petru?

Bien sûr! Highly respected by the KOD crowd of post-PRL military brass, ex-PZPR functionaries (mostly now in SLD or PO), PO losers and other pushed away from the feed trough by the Polish voter with some assorted old hippies of the Kijowski ilk thrown in.

Janda has been especially critical of PiS. Why? Under PO her private theatre got a 1.5 million złoty govt subsidy, now it is only 150,000 zł.

democratically elected scamster PO govt

The PO scamster govt slid its way through two terms in office thanks to their clever rhetoric and slick and slippery MO. People finally cauight on last October and showed them the red card. As an oppostion grouping they are continuing their old tricks. According to Kijowski: "PO was superbly prepared for the 7th May march. They organised 300 busloads of marchers from all over Poland and brought in 15,000 people. They also invested in bilboards and the media to publicise our march."

Merged:KOD defends post-PRL "arrangements", not democracy -- junior MP

During children's day in the Sejm, a young teenager Krzysztof Dąbrowa addressed parliament and asked (the opposition): "What are you defending? Tell me. Arranegements rooted in PRL? Your fat SB pensions? Because you're certainly not defending freedom or democracy, as you claim. A free state is one free of taxes and bureacracy with a market based on national capital."

Even at his tender age young Krzyś is a helluiva lot brighter than the KODerasts and many posters on PF.
Atch  22 | 4207  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2470
I wonder who wrote his address for him - or did he speak extempore? That would take a bit more work alright, Mama and Tata would have have to rehearse him thoroughly. He's starting the right way for a political career anyhow, do any of them ever write their own speeches?
mafketis  38 | 10939  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2471
Krzysztof Dąbrowa addressed parliament and asked (the opposition):

It's sad when adults work out their trauma though their children. Poor kid has terrible parents.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2472
Poor kid has terrible parents.

Jealous that he's a tad more on the ball than you and other pro-KODerasts?
smurf  38 | 1940  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2473
young Krzyś is a warped kid that's been brainwashed by his douchebag parents

Fixed your post bro

You're welcome

Also, Children's Day was like a week ago, old new, boring. Try staying up to date a bit more.
Harry  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2474
scamster

Is that a derogatory name you are applying to public figures in order to provoke a reaction?

As an oppostion grouping they are continuing their old tricks.

Clearly the opposition in Poland needs to defend the rule of law and the constitution: Chairman Kaczynski doesn't give a jot about either.

KODerasts

Is that a derogatory name you are applying to public figures in order to provoke a reaction?

What are you defending? Tell me. Arranegements rooted in PRL?

Might he be referring to people who used the dodgy connections they made during the commie era in order to purchase state-owned property for a song. I wonder if young Krzys also supports taking such properties away from such people.
mafketis  38 | 10939  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2475
you and other pro-KODerasts?

I'm no more a member of KOD than I am of the PiS party.

bunch of paid-shill nonsense

Lemme fix 'at one for ya, pardner!

The PiS scamster govt slid its way into a general election victory thanks to their clever manipulations and bait and switch campaign (vote for young christian democrats and get a boxload of toxic, crazy old people). People are finally catching on and will probably show them the red card well before their term in office is scheduled to end. As an oppostion grouping they will continue their their old and socially poisonous tricks.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2476
warped kid that's been brainwashed

How do you knwo that? Teenagers to you are all stupid pimple people incapable of thinking who do nothing but text and play computer games?
smurf  38 | 1940  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2477
How do you knwo that?

I met him once, he's a tossbag

Teenagers to you are all stupid pimple people incapable of thinking who do nothing but text and play computer games?

Nope, not at all, teenagers are the future, you sir are the past.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2478
teenagers are the future

I agree, and the future looks brighter every day, as the youngest Poles are the biggest backers of patriotism, family values and wholesomeness. The day when it was cool to be a leftist libertine is fast fading and are most widepsread amongst those of late-middle and pre-retirement age like yourself. PO lost in every region except the two Pomeranias, but even there the youngest voters backed PiS. More and more teens are taking an interest in Catholic and patriotic organisations, riflemen's clubs, self-defence units and historical re-enactors' groups. It is libertinism that is going out of style in Poland, and those who don't realise it can't figure out what's happening.

pro-KODerast

pro- does not imply memebrship but support!
mafketis  38 | 10939  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2479
I support the rule of law.

You support the rule of party leader.

That's all there is to it.
Atch  22 | 4207  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2480
late-middle and pre-retirement age like yourself.

How do you know Smurf's age??

patriotic organisations, riflemen's clubs, self-defence units

Sounds more like America than Poland. Anyway what do you mean by self-defence units? Do you mean vigilante militia or what?

It is libertinism that is going out of style in Poland,

Was it ever in style? Really Polly, Poland missed out on the whole social and cultural revolution of the 1960s due to being part of the Eastern bloc. Of course there were always small pockets of that kind but the nation as a whole didn't experience anything like the shift in attitudes that occurred in the west from the 60s onwards. Note I didn't mention the sexual revolution because it seems to me that they've always been a bit free and easy in that respect. They like to keep an air of outward respectability but they're not that prim and proper no matter how much they rattle their rosary beads.
smurf  38 | 1940  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2481
as the youngest Poles are the biggest backers of patriotism, family values and wholesomeness

no, you're wrong there Ted, your way is the wrong way, the grreat thing is you'll be dead when Poland finally becomes the forward-thinking free country that it's destined to be

More and more teens are taking an interest in Catholic and patriotic organisations, riflemen's clubs, self-defence units and historical re-enactors' groups

I love the way you can just say sh!t and expect people to believe you without even offering a shred of evidence.
I no more believe you than I do the sh!t that comes out of Donald Trump's fake-tan mouth

I support the rule of law.

You support the rule of party leader.

Here here, he's basically a card-carrying cult member. Waco Texas is where he should've been

late-middle and pre-retirement age like yourself

Bah-hahahahaha, wow, I'm nowhere even close to that.

Anyway what do you mean by self-defence units? Do you mean vigilante militia or what?

Haven't you seen these guys?
Basically rednecks with crappy tattoos playing airsoft on the weekend to escape their crappy lives living in backwaters in bieszczady and the like
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2482
I support the rule of law.

PRL also supported the rule of law...so did Stalin!
mafketis  38 | 10939  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2483
so did Stalin!

You are digging yourself into a deep hole.....
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2484
self-defence units

Various formal and informal paramilitary youth groups.... Yes, luckily Poland remained largely unscathed by all the hippy crap, as a result it is far less debauched than the West. Now that there's a decent patriotic and traditon-minded govt at the helm, things are looking up. The more so that it's the youth that support PiS the most.
smurf  38 | 1940  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2485
PRL also supported the rule of law...so did Stalin!

Naw, you're grasping at straws now buddy, they made and controlled the law, the function of a constitution court is to make sure laws are constitutional, PRL and Stalin just made their own laws willy-nilly with no checks.............exactly what PiS want to do

Yes, luckily Poland remained largely unscathed by all the hippy crap, as a result it is far less debauched than the West.

more horsesh!te
Harry  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2486
Various formal and informal paramilitary youth groups....

Are any of them called Kaczynskijugend? Although at least such an accurate description would be good for getting more protesters out on the streets.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2487
Kaczynskijugend?

What

to make sure laws are constitutional

And you know the TK was created by the sterling, exemplary democrat Jaruzelski!

Atch: was I far off the mark re Smurf's age?
What about Harryjugend? They both use an "H" name!
mafketis  38 | 10939  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2488
the sterling, exemplary democrat Jaruzelski!

Well he's got a better record than a certain JK I could name.....
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
7 Jun 2016 /  #2489
Well he's got a better record

Of course he does. Delcared war on his own nation, killed, maimed and imprisoned thousands... What have you been drinking ro snorting?
mafketis  38 | 10939  
8 Jun 2016 /  #2490
Of course he does.

I'm so glad you agree.

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