Going to Poland in a hijab - Polish people and Islam

@Levi

who said that i'm obligating anything she wears Hijab as her choice and if she choose to not wear i will support her too.

You said that ((woman are free to wear what they want)) then that means if my wife wants to wear Hijab she is free to wear it right? she shoudln't be obligated by you or me or anyone to particular kind of cloths, right?

I also lived in UK for a year and she were able to wear whatever she wants.

Note: she doesn't wear the all black kind of Hijab

don't worry Waleed, it is Levi's problem that he cannot imagine a woman making up her own mind about something.

It is different to the UK though.
I think a nice colourful hijab, possibly worn a little looser than usual, would be fine.

@WaleedAly: Salam brother, I don't think you'll face any difficulties here, especially in Wroclaw. I have seen a lot of women in Hijab at the Masjid but I can't tell if they wear it around town. Two years ago the story was different. There was a Polish girl who was always in Hijab. I saw her several times in Hijab around Rynek during that time but now I doubt if she still wears it outside the Masjid or her home. If you like I can ask the women in the Masjid on Friday(if Allah wills) about their experiences with the Hijab in town.

Why?


Yes please that will be a great help for me.

An interesting article, pointing out that hijab as a non-negotiable part of islam for women is a very recent idea (the word is apparently never used in the koran with the idea of head covering) and aligned with the poisonous creed of theocracy which has caused so much suffering in the muslim world.

washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/21/as-muslim-women-we-actually-ask-you-not-to-wear-the-hijab-in-the-name-of-interfaith-solidarity/

I have no intention of harassing any women wearing the hijab but it's not anything I can pretend to respect....

A very good article, and one which should be read by every muslim woman (if they can read). The authors state that "well-funded" conservative muslims have tried, very successfully in fact, to make the hijab seem normal. Well-funded from where? I think we all know. The same country that funds madrassas in Pakistan, from where brainwashed boys join jihad. A country whose unelected leaders are feted in Washington and London. A country which cuts people's hands off and executes minorities.

Jesus H Christ Roger give your head a wobble

I was referring to those women and girls who are denied an education.

And especially Arab countries mostly have terrible, terrible education systems that do not prepare most people for work (because their societies are mostly terrible at creating jobs).

Turkey and Iran have much better education systems though the latter is still stuck in theocracy (despite indications that a lot of people would like to dump it) and the former is regressing socially into backwardness....

From what i read you don't have problem with Muslim People but some of you are not very fund of Hijab and think it is unnecessary accessory of cloth?

i do respect all your ideas and thoughts but still it is my wife's decision to choose if she wants to wear Hijab or not.

And until now she wants to wear it and she believes and i do too it is part of the Muslim religion.

so do wearing the Hijab will Harm her in Poland or be a barrier?

Thanks to aggressive islamists it has come to be seen as part of the religion, but this can be proven otherwise. What is your response to the article linked above? I spent several years living in Turkey, and had many friends and colleagues whose devout wives were uncovered. They were sometimes abused on the streets by what are called kara fatmas.

As an add on Roger, after the fatwa was issued on Salman Rushdie for his writing of the Satanic verses, the Muslim world found a common voice. Today we see a M.E economic powerhouse at war with the western world. People in the western world and being driven into poverty, losing jobs, business failing all a direct result of one of the worlds largest oil producers decision to bankrupt western oil producers. The hijab is merely headwear it's not the scarf many people are opposed to, it's what it is sent to represent. I do not believe wearing a hijab in Poland is an actual problem per say. I do believe being a Muslim in many parts of Europe will become less free...

In winter people probably won't notice (outdoors at least). In better weather I really doubt that anyone would bother her (but again they won't think better of her or respect the idea behind wearing it). If anyone does say anything it might be more women than men (Polish women have a habit of being very vocal about things they don't like).

Most British people (non-Muslims) probably also felt the same - they'll be tolerant, but they don't respect the practice (though they would be very hesitant to say that out loud).

The migrant crisis has brought a cold war against Muslims, especially in Poland.


The article is but not good enough to declare a ruling on dress code for women. The author has based his analysis on the Quran alone. It almost impossible to understand the Quran without taking into consideration the sunnah of the prophet. Before our holy prophet(S.A.W) passed on, he commanded us to consult both the Quran and his sunnah(which can be found in the hadith books) in case of uncertainty. I will understand you if you think the article is flawless because you don't know Islam.


Turkey is not that islamic like you think. I have very close Turkish friends and I have lived with a lot of them too. Apart from the few I meet in the mosque, and one other guy I met during an Erasmus program, I have never seen or met any Turkish who is a practicing muslim. I interact with them on daily basis. If there was an accurate statistics, it'll tell you that close to 50% Turkish are not practicing muslims.

Well I have. I lived there for three years. How about you? The mosques were always packed when I was there.

Practicing Islam extends far beyond just the mosque.

Wro1010. The Cold War as you call it is between Saudi and Iran - there is no Cold War in Poland against the Muslim world quite the opposite in fact Polish business will go to any country it can do business irrespective of religion as was seen in the 70/80's. There is a public outcry of how Merket et al have handled the European immigration crisis, as Poland has its own human crisis with the half a million Ukranians who have arrived since 2013.

Religious fanatics who want their faith to extend to all areas of life are seldom able to live peaceably alongside those with even slightly different ideas....

Saudi is a cesspit of violence and primitive backwardness (if anything the royal family is more progressive than most of the population). Iran has tremendous potential if they could just get rid of the mullahs and get on with things....

This discussion has to be about Poland

It is not the immigrant crisis.

It is the rapes in Cologne, the murder of Alexandra Mezher by cold blood at Sweden by a illegal immigrant, it is all the rapes of Hamburg, the riots, all that sh1t.

Poles just DONT WANT MESS THAT in their country. And it is their right to do so, and that is NOT racist by any means. Period.

A moderator, assuming my identity (identity theft! identity theft!) wrote


Just add "In Poland as in other countries... to the first paragraph

and

"Very much unlike Poland..."

to the beginning of the second.

El problemo es solvado!

@Levi: Cheap propaganda is patronized by people whose judgement has been clouded by their emotions. Yes, assaults might have occurred but trust me, the entire news about it has been exaggerated. Even before the incident, you were here saying all sought of things about muslims in Poland, do you remember?

again that not muslims that are terrorists please it is insulting to any muslim to say that these are acts of muslims.

These don't represent MUSLIMS.

WaleedAlly, The terrorists have hijacked Islam, they are Muslims and they represent Islam in the media. It is not for non Muslims to be apologetic about their concerns and fears. It is up to the more moderate Muslims to condem the heinous crimes of Muslim extremists. One such act could be your wife not wearing a hijab in Europe, just as my wife wears a hijab out of respect to the culture in Muslim countries. Europeans do not wear their religion on their sleeves it's a private affair.

Yes, in the media but not in the real world.


Wearing hijab in Poland or even europe has no correlation with terrorism.


I attend ceremonies of my friends in churches here in Poland.

of course that those muslims that raped defenseless girls in Cologne represent muslims in real world.
they are not ******* holograms!!!!
And anyone that walked through the streets of Cairo or Algiers knows that what happened in new year in Cologne, happens there everyday!!! The disgusting Taharrush mania was spread in Cairo.

Answering the OP: Yes, a Hijab can make yuor wife feel unconfortable in Poland. But violence against her is unlike to happen.

Muslim countries don't force hijab on anyone except in saudi arabia and iran.
In egypt it is optional to wear what ever you want.
I do believe it should be like this everywhere even in saudi arabia and iran

And it is not out of respect for my wife to take off hijab it is her choice and belief that should guide her to do so.

That thing should be illegal, just like nazi and soviet symbols.

Yeah! just like the catholic robes and rosaries.

These are actually illegal in some countries where your cult is dominating.

They might be illegal( which i highly doubt) because the laws of that particular country says so. Article 53 of the Polish constitution clearly states that everyone has the right to practice any religion of their choice. My point is that if the Hijab is a religious practice of someone, why should she be deprived of that right?