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From: Trowbridge,Wiltshire
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KingAthelstan   
13 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / We live in the UK; my husband is not legal in England [47]

I had no problem with Poles here in the UK before the invasion of 2004, a few 10,000s was barely noticeable and they tended to integrate (especially the War Poles) into wider British society. But the sheer volume of low skilled immigration in such a short space of time was a mistake, it has kept wages from rising over the last 7 years in certain sectors such as construction and plumbing, it has put financial strain on British plumbers. builders, mechanics bricklayers, painter/decorators whose work Poles will do for half the money.

How would you feel if a million low-played working class Brits came to Poland in a matter of two years?

PS I don't hate Poles I just think the UK should have put up immigration quotas like all the other EU countries.
KingAthelstan   
14 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / We live in the UK; my husband is not legal in England [47]

Poles literally never crossed my mind before 2004. The only Pole I ever saw was before 2004 was Telegraph pole at the end of my street and the cool guy from the great escape.
KingAthelstan   
15 Sep 2011
News / Poland hosts lowest proportion of foreigners in the EU [115]

No you take the Pakistanis, Arabs and Somalis and Nigerians, please from here please. I don't mind Chinese or Japanese or east Asian people never seem to cause any problems or try and demand special treatment from the host population.
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

In the main they will contribute to the UK in a positive way. As did their great-grandfathers.

Not sure that's actually true. Most of the Poles post 2004 don't really integrate into wider British society, they generally keep to themselves. Unlike the War Poles that did integrate, the recent migrant. have not really integrated into British society.
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

Give them a little more time.

It's not just about time, the wider point I'm trying to make is that when people come gradually in small numbers from a similar culture like say the Irish to Britain, they tend to completely assimilate, but when a single group of people from a different culture move in overwhelming numbers in a short space of time then they tend to congregate together, take for example the Mexicans in California, there is a parallel with post 2004 Polish immigration.

When there is already a large immigrant community present then a new immigrant would tend to be absorbed by them as opposed to the wider culture, for instance, if I went as an Englishman moved to Mongolia tomorrow , I would have no choice other than to speak Russian or Mongolian and would be forced to integrate with the local population , but if a Mexican moved to southern California tomorrow he could spend his entire life simply talking Spanish and eating living much the same way he would in mexico.
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

I blame Tony Blair and his absurd open door immigration policy. had we had immigration caps than we would not have been overwhelmed by so many people in such a short space of time.

Britain is full up.
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

I am not proud to be white, white is an American concept I'm English, of English ethnicity. It really annoys me that English people have been reduced to a colour, I was at the doctors surgery the other day and I had to write in ENGLISH in the other ethnic tick box instead of White Black or Asian. Oh England, what hath yea become? (Blair I sh*t on you)

A Belorussian or Jew born in Poland was regarded as ethnically Belorusian or Jewish of Polish citizenship. I have been reduced to a colour in the land of my roots, the left wing media talks about the 'white working class' (when they mean English working class) Poles are the same colour as me and it makes no sense to call me white.. No I am NOT WHITE I am English. Simple as.
KingAthelstan   
19 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

well that's load of ol pony, never been to the SwAN in Stokwell or a fundraiser gig elsewhere in London?//????

London is no Longer an English city, it looks like a 3rd world ghetto.

come to Trowbridge in Wiltshire near where I live and you will see that Polish and English people do not really mix outside work.

youtube.com/watch?v=lF6zBJjvyOQ

integration:

youtube.com/watch?v=UH3s9AIvi_o

Thought it was White British and White Other

I don't want to be to be called 'white' that is an American term I am of English ethnic origin. There is a tick box for Chinese, Pakistani, Indian on the census form, and Black African and Carrabian, yet all I get is White British. no I'm simply English not European, Not Scottish, not White, I'm English!

English and wider British society has become so Americanised that the media no longer refer to say English people in Bradford and pakistani people in bradford, they would say White people and Pakistani Asian people.

There was an England before Multiculturalism, the government cares more about bending over backwards to accommodate immigrants than English people. You are now 'racist' for being proud of English culture. the government funds Muslim and Hindu street festivals in some areas yet does not do the same thing for St Georges day.

There are offcial Thames Valley Police signs in Polish in parts of Reading saying ' Please do not drink in the street'.

If I moved to Poland to live I would learn Polish and not expect the polish government to give me free Polish lessons.

Im English not White.
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KingAthelstan   
20 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

Multiculturalism is a step in the right direction

No I am fundamentally against the doctrine of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism in England, there was an English culture and identity long before the mass immigration of the 50s and 60s, long before New Labour shoved the Doctrine Multiculturalism down our throats.

Guy fawkes night, Morris dancing, Cheese Rolling, Running of Burning tar in Northumberland, Drinking Cider, Northumberland pipes, The Wurzels, John Lilburne, Thomas Hardy, Hallowe'en, John Locke, Isaac newton, this is England

The native cockney culture in London has become completely and utterly destroyed and it brings a tear to my eye, I am not against all immigration it's just when the parent culture becomes marginalised and dissipates and people are branded racist for waving the St Georges cross people create foreign ghettos that are left to fester like in Tower Hamlets or Bradford.

There is nothing unique about multiculturalism, if you want that go to New York. England unique culture which Poland still has been shat on, maligned and is vanishing.

The Irish came here in the 19th -20 th centuries in very large numbers and they assimilated into English Culture, The French Protestants (Huguenots) came in in the 17th-18th and did the same as did the Eastern European Jews who assimilated into cockney culture in London in in the 1890s.

read what Cleese said
thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3791303/John-Cleese-London-is-no-longer-English-city.html

John Cleese: "I love having different cultures around but when the parent culture kind of dissipates, you're left thinking, 'What's going on?' "

If I went to Uzbekistan I wouldn't expect to find the local chippy a pint of Newcastle brown ale and the Uzbek government to bend over backwards to teach me Uzbek.

aside of the fact that the level of immigration has been out of control, the very fundamental fabric of England has become so uncool and vilified to such an extant that what ken Livingstone was asked what's so great about Britain: 'oh its the Multi culturalism'.

Multiculturalism is just a load of other foreign cultures. NO, England has been here for 1000 years, but it has been reduced to being New Labour forcing us to be proud of having lots of different foreign cultures as the only unique aspect about England.

Oh England, what hath yea become?
KingAthelstan   
20 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

You are confusing multiculturalism with democracy. France for example has just as many ( if not more immigrants from the 3rd world, yet they to not preach the doctrine of multiculturalism and yet still manage to retain and be proud of a distinctly French culture.

perhaps you would like to take 5 million 3rd world immigrants and see how they sh*t on Polish culture, then we will see who's the smug ass?

You have an Eastern European country that has still retained and is rightfully proud of it's native culture. Multi-Culture is just an multitude of foreign cultures super-imposed on the native one. There is nothing unique about it. you can find it In Amsterdam in Toronto, in New York, this is England, when in Rome do as the Romans do.
KingAthelstan   
20 Sep 2011
UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

Lols....how many Irish clubs in England???

People of Irish origin:John lennon, Steven Gerrard, Wayne rooney, PAul Mccarthy, George OSborne. half of liverpool is Irish, they didnt deand gaelic signs on every street when they came in the 19th centuary

LMFAO, you have got to be having a bubble matey.....see that thing you are sat on? You aint meant to talk out of it.....

Some integrated Jews:Alan Sugar Amy Winehouse, sacha baron cohen, Nigella Lawson, Vanessa Feltz, David Miliband, Roni Anconna, Jason Isaacs Daniel Radcliffe.

And,just in closing, London has never been an "English City", it has always been a place dominated by immigrants,any 6th form history student could tell you that.

No, there was a cockney culture that had existed in some form for hundreds of years, and yes immigrants like the east end Jews ( there are many cockney words of yiddish origin) the Irish, the Huguenots all mostly integrated.

that culture has now become destroyed in the last 50 years.

England:
youtube.com/watch?v=vzeBDcmrjjY

Not England

youtube.com/watch?v=g8gZ8JKw1rw

youtube.com/watch?v=qoMeUcC_M20
KingAthelstan   
21 Sep 2011
News / Poland hosts lowest proportion of foreigners in the EU [115]

Why is it ok for a Pole to be rightfully proud of their ancient Polish Slavic culture, yet here in England I am force fed this PC New labour created notion of Multiculturalism that decries me as a racist for being proud of English culture. And yes it is English culture not British for in Scotland or Wales, it is perfectly acceptable to be patriotic and nationalistic there(SNP Plaid cymru).

No! There is still an English culture that exists ( despite what the guardian may say) in The West country, Northumberland and Cumbria for instance but has virtually vanished from England's major cities such as London or Birmingham or Bradford which have become foreign segregated ghettos.

And by the way, France has about 8 million Muslims and 2 million other non-European immigrants, we in the UK have only about 5-6 million third world immigrants of an alien culture that refuse to integrate, yet France does not espouse a doctrine if multiculturalism and has managed to retain and is proud of French culture, yet in England we have been reduced to Multiculturalism as 'the culture of England'.
KingAthelstan   
21 Sep 2011
News / Poland hosts lowest proportion of foreigners in the EU [115]

The goal by extremists zionists

I don't blame Jews, that's just absurd, Poland lived in harmony with 3 million Jews for 1000 years. The Jews here either mind either own business or integrate and do not try and bomb us or impose their way on us. (and by en large vote conservative). I blame it partly on the left wing upper middle class londoncentric people like clinate that was created under tony blair, the guardian, Ken livingstone. It has to be said problems began back in the late 50s with mas immigration from the fmr Empire and was not invented entriely by tony blair, he merely cemented the DOCTRINE of multiculturalism and took a great big dump on English culture )

And partly the result of belated white man's guilt in somehow thinking that if we house half the bleeding former Empire, it will karmicly absolve us of the misdemeanour's of our great-great-great grandfathers escapades in Africa and India and somehow make us cooler funkier people.

And partly the result of the Americanisation of British identity, in classing people as 'white', instead of ethnic English for instance.
KingAthelstan   
21 Sep 2011
News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

Merged: This is Warsaw in 50 years time....

You should try multiculturalism...its fun :)

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g8gZ8JKw1rw

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qoMeUcC_M20
KingAthelstan   
24 Sep 2011
News / Has there been an influx of Polish people into Germany? [21]

I was wondering if Poles have starting moving to Germany since they lifted immigration restrictions this year?

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/8485408/Germany-braces-itself-for-invasion-of-Polish-workers-as-it-follows-EU-immigration-rules.html
KingAthelstan   
24 Sep 2011
News / Has there been an influx of Polish people into Germany? [21]

it would be good if some Poles in the UK went to Deutschland. why do I see so many Middle aged and older Poles who just sit on the benches in the town centre in the middle of the day drinking vodka. it used to be just Young Poles in their early 20s who came to work here,but now they seem to have brought over their entire families
KingAthelstan   
24 Sep 2011
News / Has there been an influx of Polish people into Germany? [21]

Not putting immigration quotas for Eastern Europe was one of the biggest mistakes any pot war British Government ha made. it has really f*cked over the British working classes. Working class Brits can not compete with a Pole who will do a job for half the price. they have stopped wages from rising as much as they would have over the last 7 years. It ha put an immense financial strain on working class Brits involved in manual labour industries such plumbing, bar work, mechanics, brick layers who roofers, allot of new jobs are taken by people registered are reserved for employment agencies based in Eastern Europe. The Poles now here do not integrate with wider British society, there are Police sign in Reading saying ' Please do not Drink' in Polish.

How would you feel if there was an influx of nearly 1 million low payed working class Brits to Poland within a space of 2 years?

this has nothing to do with your opening post. keep the thread on topic. otherwise i'll bin it. thank you.