Food / What are my chances if I open Grill of Serbian cuisine in Poland? [14]


i apologize Pane.


i just started. Wait to see the rest


sorry. Please, don`t puke

Recipe

Serbian Burgers (Pljeskavica)



Ingredients

1 pound ground beef, preferably chuck
1 pound ground veal
1 pound ground pork, preferably neck or jowl meat; or use 1/3 pound pork belly and 2/3 pound regular ground pork
½ cup finely chopped onions plus minced onions, for serving
1 ½ teaspoons salt
1 tablespoon black pepper; or use 2 teaspoons sweet paprika and 1 teaspoon black pepper
¼ cup sparkling water
6 pita breads, warmed or toasted
Kajmak with herbs (see recipe)
Red pepper-eggplant ajvar (see recipe)

Preparation

In a large bowl, place meats, 1/2 cup chopped onions, salt, pepper and sparkling water. Using your hands, lightly combine ingredients. Cover and refrigerate at least 3 hours or overnight. Divide mixture into six equal balls. Place one ball between two sheets of plastic wrap and use the heel of your hand to pound it to a thin patty, about 1/4-inch thick and 6 inches in diameter. Repeat with remaining meat; refrigerate patties about 1 hour. Heat a grill or heavy skillet to very hot. Cook patties, turning often, until well browned on both sides, about 5 minutes total. Cut pita breads in half horizontally, and serve burgers between pieces of pita. Sprinkle with onions and spread with kajmak and ajvar as desired.

Food / What are my chances if I open Grill of Serbian cuisine in Poland? [14]


Sure, Panovie wants their share :)

in Serbia we say `podmazati`.


There is that restaurant Banja Luka in Warsaw already. They doing fine. What i heard, Poles accept Serbian cuisine but, location is decisive, what i already predicts.

As for Moscow, yes, it would be interesting, too. It could work, i am sure. Just, i don`t have my own friends there as it is case with Warsaw.


i visited place. Cool.

You have also restaurants and cafe-bars named after Tito, back then Yugoslav communist dictator but, in the same time, true gentleman and modern politician in his time.

Listen, you really needs to learn about Serbian logic and spirit. Yes, for Serbs, Warsaw, Kracow, Prague, Bratislava, Moscow, Minsk, Peterburg,.. truly means more then any western European city. No, not that Serbs atren`t aware of the Slavic weaknesses. They are, just, Serbs are Serbs. They truly believe in Slavic spring. Serbs, stubborn traditional Slavs and, at the same time, maybe the most modern Slavs. Go figure that. Sense of humor in Serbs is unbelievable.

See, west of Europe really really mistaken when took part in partition of Serbia and supported destruction of Yugoslavia by the line of German/Turkish interests and, fought against Serbs side by side with worse Arab mujaheedines. It was there stupid mistake. They stubbed Serbs in the back- you know we were in alliance with USA, Britain and France in two world wars. We seriously contributed to the ally victories. Now, Serbs wants to prove that Belgrade represent more important city in Europe then it is Brussels. And, Serbs would prove it. Brussels is only focused on interests of the west of Europe. Belgrade? Founded by the most glorious Celtic (ie Proto Slavic) tribe of Scordisci, that gave greatest resistance to Romans what is recorder in history, Belgrade is class for itself.

Novi Sad. My city. After Prague, Kracow and Chicago, Novi Sad is definitely most beautiful Slavic city. ;)

Crow, please stick to the topic of your own thread please.

Food / What are my chances if I open Grill of Serbian cuisine in Poland? [14]


listen, you can eat pljeskavica with many different additions. i myself, only when don`t have public obligations (or intimate), eat pljeskavica with ajvar or onion.

In most cases i eat pljeskavica without onion and ajvar. i just order pljeskavica with sour cream (on both halves of bun) and then plus tomato, green salad, cabbage. Its my favorite option. Then, as i said, when don`t go in public, i add onion, too.

UK, Ireland / Living in England - the reality. I am now returning to Poland. [30]


yes, while most of the people have only one life.

UK, Ireland / Living in England - the reality. I am now returning to Poland. [30]


Good. Let`s make Slavic world better place for living so that our people can avoid misery like traveling to England and beg for jobs there

News / Poland to withdraw from Visegrad defence radar project [10]


At this moment circumstances puts Serbs and Russians on the same side (we faces same threat). That gives pretty clear signal to Poles that right now, they don`t need to fear from Russian invasion. It is so because Poles and Serbs represent traditional historical partners. Even more, Poles and Serbians are to each others good loyal brothers. So, even if no other reasons not to confront Poland, at least- Russia won`t dare to risk her relations with Serbia.

Even involvement of Serbs in Ukraine, gives guarantees for satisfaction of Polish interests in the region, on the long run. Yes, i am quite sure that i speak truth when say that are Serbians guarantors of Polish eastern borders. That is something what NATO can`t offer to Poland. Never. On the contrary

Actually, Polish people, intelligentsia and politics already realizing that Serbian challenges must be seen as Polish challenges, if Poland wants to survive.

necessary to be said here.

At this moment of history Poland and Russia are very mutually interdependent.

Till now, in history, Poland may benefited from weak Russia and/or opposite, Russia may benefited from weak Poland. Even then, neither Russians, neither Poles wanted total destruction of the opponent. It is because, no matter their mutual antagonism, they were aware of the extremely aggressive foreign, non-Slavic, factor on both- Poland and Russia. That is situation that exist now too, with further straightening of factors that increase mutual interdependence. Greater danger for Russia, Poland would feel more endangered. Not from Russia but, in case that Russia collapse. It is so, because without Russia, as factor of balance in Europe, same factors that could eventually destroy Russia, after finish with Russia (as if), would inevitable turn to finish with Poland. Reason would be invented in the blink of an eye.

And so, interdependence rising. Why would then Poland want to end this situation and give contribution to the destruction of Russia? For sure Poland won`t do that. Especially, ESPECIALLY, when situation qualitatively dramatically change with every new day and, when now Russia starting to have interest in strengthening of Poland in Central/Northern Europe, same was as profit from strengthening of Serbia on Balkan/Central Europe, as well as, let us also underline, from strengthening of China in Asia, Brazil in Latin America, etc, etc.

News / Poland to withdraw from Visegrad defence radar project [10]


that`s the good one.

all real Polish enemies are members of NATO.

News / Poland to withdraw from Visegrad defence radar project [10]


Its now more political move then anything else.

Poland may easily found itself in the crossfire, between west of Europe and Russia.

Also, if we follow logic of the NWO development, its reasonable to expect that is Poland, next point of crisis in Europe. Its the only vast Slavic state, except Russia, that isn`t fragmented till now. Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Ukraine were already object of trade.

But, Poland has last card to play if her political leadership isn`t entirely corrupt. That is military neutrality on global military alliances and move out of NATO. Still, one may note that Ukraine did played that card and we see that it didn`t save her. Yes, it is truth. Same is with Poland. Crisis is inevitable. Declaration of neutrality would only affect how would Poland go out from crisis. It can`t prevent crisis.

At this moment declaration of neutrality strategically has effect as if Poland declared formation of new Commonwealth. Think of it.

But, that would mean that Poland starting to think of herself. Right now, it suits Russia. Beware, it is west of Europe and USA that are now natural enemy of Poland.

Food / Was Slonina (Lard) originally extracted from Elephant meat? [17]


well, if you have suggestion how to found out does `slonina` or `slanina` coming from `slon` (elephant) i would appreciate that.


word exist and has same meaning in Serbian, too


yes, some old word in Serbian also sounded like that if not the same. Just I don`t know is it originally Slavic or we (Poles and Serbs) borrowed from some other language.

Food / Was Slonina (Lard) originally extracted from Elephant meat? [17]


ok. Its `slano` in Serbian


Serbs also say `osoljeno` or `posoljeno` or even `soljeno`- salted (when one eat meat and then add salt to correct the taste of food). `soljeno` could have same meaning with `osoljeno/posoljeno` and `usoljeno`, what depending on context.

`usoljeno` goes for meat that is prepared that way... salted, under pressure, smoked,.. this process is in Serbian known as `salamura`. `stavio sam meso u salamuru` > `i have placed meat in salt (?)`

Shall we back to the topic, please?

Food / Was Slonina (Lard) originally extracted from Elephant meat? [17]


in Serbian > `usoljeno meso` > meaning if directly translated in English `meat placed in the salt`. This goes for the kind of meat that is prepared that way... `slanina je usoljeno meso` > could be translated as - `bacon is salted meat`

But, there is also `slano meso` > (for example)... `Meso nije slano` > `Meat isn`t salty`... `staviću so (sol) na meso` > `i will put salt on meat`

Point is,... i don`t know if English language has exact words that differ `usoljeno` and `slano`. What is situation with Polish?

What is also interesting, English word BACON has obvious Slavic origin.

etymonline.com/index.php?term=bacon


see this now

Serbian BATAK means `meat from the back and sides of a pig`. Word `batak` in Serbian coming from word `bat` that in English means `hammer`. `BAT` in `BATAK` because one ``hammering the land`` when he walk.

Food / Was Slonina (Lard) originally extracted from Elephant meat? [17]

Interesting


Is this the same what is in Serbian `slanina`? i suppose so


There is much more in it then possibility that elephants were all eaten, in the vicinity of Poles.

This could be taken as one of proofs that ancestors of modern day Poles originally populated Poland from the Balkan along the Danube river. Then, if we have `feed-back` of the word `slonina` - `slanina` on direction South-East to the Northern Europe (and if it is for sure based on the elephant meat), we can, by the evolution of language, say that this could be proof that speaks in the favor of Slavic autohtonicity in Europe.

Spot this... one of oldest Europe`s Mammoth`s skeletons is found in Serbia (500.000 years old), on Balkan (that was Ice age refugium during periods of glaciations; refugium means that it was place where was warmer climate and was possible for human civilization to exist in Europe during Ice age; when Ice age finished people started to disperse deeper in continent- always (!), preferable along rivers)

Mammoth skeleton pulled from Serbian mine

Marko Drobnjakovic, The Associated Press
Published Friday, April 11, 2014 12:38PM EDT
ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/mammoth-skeleton-pulled-from-serbian-mine-1.1771738

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]

Let us here don`t manipulate with situation which was result from the German genocide on Serbs. Chetniks were legitimate members of the Yugoslav Royal Army, while government and King were in exile in Britain.

Story is that Germans, for every 1 killed (by resistance movement) German soldier executed 100 Serbian civilians. So, Chetniks sometimes were forced to negotiate and to accept temporary cease fire with Germans in order to prevent further killings of Serbian civilians.

In any case, Chetniks of General Draza Mihailovic inflicted significant damage to the German forces during WWII. Its well know historical fact.

From Over 500 US MIAs Saved By The Serbian People During WW2

youtube.com/watch?v=NtMrL-XEC7U

US Airmen Saved by Serbian Chetniks

youtube.com/watch?v=_wD1RK1G0gI

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD

srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/Felman/snf-speech.html

History / WWII - who really was the first to help Poland? [900]


Serbians, or as old Poles called us- Racowie

Go investigate for yourself and learn. Stance of Serbs in back then Yugoslavia, was first real and selfless help to Poland. No matter that it was suicidal for my people

History / Why is the Battle of Grunwald celebrated more than the Battle of Lubiszewo? [29]

Well elaborated.

just few days ago i spoke to one friend of mine about battle of Grunwald. We both agree that battle was decisive for the survivor of Slavic west and by analogy for survivor of Slavic south. It goes hand in hand. Crucial battles of Poles vs. Germanics and Turks were decisive for survivor of Serbs and, crucial Serbian battles vs. Turks and Germanics were decisive for survivor of Poles.

History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]


sure. Lithuanians are now disoriented, subjugated to interests of EU and NATO leading powers. If Poland re-create Commonwealth things would change. But, is it Poland capable for that, its questionable. Still, i believe in Poland.

USA, Canada / Why do Americans (and Canadians) hate Polish people? [226]


how couldn`t they hate Poles, when Poles are Slavs. For Slavs are reserved even genocidal feelings, not just hate.

Genealogy / Create gene bank of Slavic and therefore Polish people? [44]

SLAVIC PEOPLE
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fcrhMUL6Nw4

Beauty of Slavic people

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NlAmL5V4rWs

Travel / Trips around Wrocław and in Lower Silesia region [11]


ok. Its good to know that when one travel to pilgrimage in Arkona, via Poland

@DominicB
Thanks very much for info.

Travel / Trips around Wrocław and in Lower Silesia region [11]


is that separatist movement in Silesia aggressive? Are trips safe?

News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]


that difference coming from fact that modern day Eastern Germans originates from Germanized Serbs, while Poles simple represent other branch of the Serbs (read Sarmatians).

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]


but, dilemma of this thread is clear... Was the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth a European power?

what you think? Why are you so selfish and don`t wish to share your opinion with rest of us?


believe it or not, Harry, i believe you on this one. Poles are wise.

Even my people (generally very suicidal), after all troubles that were unleashed on us by that same European Union, starts to see itself within EU. Better alive in EU then the alternative- destruction by EU. My people learned lesson. We accept destine of the conquered people and, we are now, after beaten like dogs, more opened. Life of servant is still live, after all.

Yes, yes,.. we shall all unite... Ukrainians, Belorussians, Poles, Serbs. EU leading powers needs us all.

But, it won`t harm if we have our dreams. See,... among those dreams, most beautiful one is the dream about new Commonwealth.

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]


its a pity.


no matter how i contemplate on politics, i can`t see where would finish Belarus. In branch of Slavs/Eastern Europeans led by Poland (what is now let`s say Visegrad Group) or in Eurasian Union? in any case i can`t imagine prolonged crisis between Poland and Belarus. Also, its absolutely mind blowing to me that are Lithuanians so passionately against Poland. Same goes for situation with Ukraine. i can`t understand penetration of those retro ideas there. As for the future trends, i expect normalization of relations between Lithuania-Poland and Ukraine-Poland. Its up to Poland to demonstrate, on one side- its economic power and stability and, on the other side- its balanced politics. Then, things would settle.


hope won`t die. That`s for sure.


i understand that.

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]


good news


does it mean that Poles, among themselves, no matter in Poland or abroad, don`t even talk about possibility to re-create some sort of Commonwealth?

what more Poles think of Commonwealth that existed in past?

well noticed. i myself noted how is expected from Slavs to prove themselves to be bigger Europeans, then other Europeans. i tries to figure out is it in connection with amount of resources that are controlled by Slavic governments/countries and so, west of Europe worry are we competent enough to use it properly.

Have in mind that Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had historical, linguistic and cultural continuity with the ground/territory where was formed. Basically, as great conglomerate founded on Slavic heritage (not hostile on foreign element but on the contrary, very tolerant, hospitable) and, inherited from and after Svatopluk`s Great Moravia, influenced strongly by the Serbian Empire.

On the contrary to it, Austro-Hungaria was Germanic creation on essentially culturally, linguistically and ethnically Slavic ground. It appeared as imposed foreign element that was hostile on domicile population. That`s the reason for the failure of A-H Empire.

Now, both Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Austro-Hungarian Empire were predominantly Catholic. So, when we are at reasons for the failure of Commonwealth, i found that problem wasn`t in Catholicism. Problem for sure also, wasn`t tolerance and free Slavic spirit. No, problem were backward neighbors of the Commonwealth. Commonwealth was in front of its time. Piedmont and embryo or real democracy, electoral system and human rights in modern sense of the word. In attempt to balance all interests, in hostile environment, Commonwealth collapsed.


great truth has been said here.

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]

people, i want to know what young Poles in today`s Polish schools and universities study about Commonwealth? what ordinary Polish folk think of back then Commonwealth?

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]


alright Harry.

Shall we back to the topic, please? i am honestly interested about Commonwealth and, i don`t wish that neither my own, neither your stupidity ruin this educative thread.

Why don`t you give me some comment about Commonwealth? say, was it a European power? your opinion?

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]

not Polish. Man who comment on video is prof. Ivor Norman Richard Davies

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]


i heard what British commentator on video said. What to tell you. Even when they appears to be nice on you, they think of their interests.

It was also in contradiction with my previous knowledge in case with how many people voted, as you said. Although he admits some accomplishments of the Commonwealth he obviously tries to minimize it. What is interesting, he practically said that is today`s Poland falsely creation because of its homogenous ethnic structure. Also, he, British (and we know how are they `loyal` to the continental Europe), underlined parallelism between back then Commonwealth and modern-day European Union. That turned to be pro-EU propaganda. It looks impossible to him to imagine, that are modern Slavs (Poles) capable to create any great conglomerate based on Slavic (Polish) language and that we all now have EU what suppose to satisfy all our necessities. When one listening to him, one coming to conclusion that he in fact said - `What can we do. Commonwealth wasn`t capable to survive test of time and today we have something better, we have EU. All accomplishments of the Commonwealth would be assimilated and added to the glory of European Union, which is m ore competent. Its better that way, because modern day Poland anyway represent false creation.`

History / Was the Polish/ Lithuanian commonwealth a European power? [111]


fascinating. Thanks for info....
Good that people from the west of Europe can see, admit and understand Polish/Slavic accomplishments. If Slavs didn`t had the destine of eternal shield of Europe from the hostile non-Europeans (Mongols, Turcic people,...), we can only imagine how could Slavs contribute even more to the our Western civilization. Not to mention that Slavs were often victims of the western European greed, instead that western Europeans show solidarity with eastern Europe.

Szalawa, if you found some more videos (or links), please share information. i am very interested in this matter and want to learn as much as possible about back then Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, because Serbians had their role in it.