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Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

(looks mightily German to me):

You can do better than that can't you BB? After all your arguing, you leave it down to some facial reconstruction, which in any event, doesn't look entirely Germanic to me either. DNA will solve it.
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Interesting, because in 2005 they found a body which they believe is Copernicus' in the basement of a POLISH church. They are now trying to find some other deceased relatives of Copernicus to make sure that it is him, and then they can do a DNA test. Until then, neither Poles or Germans will give in.
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

do you consider all the millions of Poles growing up in the german Empire as Germans because they were born in what was then Prussia???

I'm sorry, but there is a bit of a difference in forcibly being occupied and having regulations on who go's in and out, and someone who is born within Polands boundaries and has the freedom to go to which ever country or land he chooses.
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Manno, you can keep Nietzsche if you want him! Satisfied? :)

I think what he's getting at, is that Poles can claim Polish heritage on a number of German intellectuals, political figures and demand that the world recognize their findings, etc... But they do not, not at least, to the extent that Germans always seem to. Why can't you just sit still and relax?

You want her??? :)

No, you can keep that ugly beast.
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

between normal c

Bratwurst, my German friend, and what in your mind, would be considered normal? Would your definition include sudden urges to change the history books when everything was just fine as it was?
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

mixed heritage!

Exactly, so why do Germans always have to take it for granted that he was fully German, and had allegiance only to Germany, when he in fact had Polish blood? Why the sudden change of heart to change history books?

Seeing your arguments I doubt they did teach you much...

No, probably not to the level that they taught you in Hitler Jugen school.
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Did you go to school in Germany?

I believe the point she is making Bratwurst, is that only in Germany do they teach you he is full blooded German. In all the rest of the world, including here in Greece, it was taught he was a Polish astronomer. A Polish citizen. No political or cultural allegiances attached!
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

So political allegiance changes race, culture and heritage??? Do you mean that???

No, but you were arguing because he signed his name in German, he was obviously German. So why can't political allegiance be at least at the same level as some scribbling in pen at the end of a document?

How did you fare in history in school Fili?

Not well, actually.
So convince me that Teutons were an unwanted presence in Germany...

Christ I'm tired... why do Germans have to be so stubborn and always want everything their way?
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I can go...

No, please, the place was just heating up!

a Pole or a germanized Pole but a GERMAN, subject of the polish crown

Really, tell me the honest truth. Because if all "foreign" subjects acted like he did, then each country would really be without any cultural conflict of any kind. So you tell me he was a German that fought his own kind? Now what kind of PROUD, decent German would do this when a Teutonic victory would have resulted in the greater good for glorious Germany?

That's great for your grandmom but Kopernikus surely did feel differently or he wouldn't had used this sig in all of his books:

But surely he would have aided his fellow Germans then?
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

Shortly before

2 days, 2 years, before, after, who cares? What counts is that was within Polish boundaries at the time.

Copernicus and his uncle Watzenrode remained Catholic.

If he wanted to remain Catholic, and the Teutonic knights were Catholic then why...

organized the defence of Olsztyn

Just read the link again...

Yawn.. Kopperlingk. So its German. It proves nothing but the fact that his dad dealt with more rich Germans in his business than rich Poles.

Since you bring out arguments from a page you didn't cite, maybe I can be so kind as to show our good people the counter arguments made within the same source.

since even the name suggests that also his father was german!

that Copernicus' great-grandfather had obtained citizenship in the city of Kraków around 1400. Kraków, like many medieval cities, had been created under Magdeburg law and later became a Hanseatic League city, but was Polish.

In terms of the political geography of his time, the position that Copernicus was born Polish is undoubtedly correct.

There are no extant letters written by Copernicus in Polish - those which have survived are all in Latin or German. However, Latin was at the time the international language of scholars and those letters in German might have been addressed to German-speakers and therefore for this specific purpose written in that language.

I have a great grandmother that lived in Silesia district her entire life, didn't speak a word of Polish, yet her parents could trace her lineage to Northern Poland. And she considered herself Polish!

Finally,

One can say summarizing, that Copernicus' working language was Latin, his mother tongue was German, his sovereign was Polish and his father tongue was probably Polish. He is undisputedly a Central-European.

This has gotten us nowhere. What remains is the fact that the Germans are attempting to Germanize a man that was obviously a Polish citizen. Why must they change history books?
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

nor do you bring any arguments for your side!

1. Copernicus was born on Polish land (at the time yes, and the boarders change often, yes, FACT, but it was Polish at the time)
2. If he really felt so proud to be German, he would have helped his fellow brethren in capturing more Polish land
3. His father was Polish, and considered himself Polish. Males count more it seems, (patriarchal society) when determining nationality in the centuries past, therefore, Nicholas is Polish.

4. He studied in Krakow primarily, and that is where he was first exposed to astronomy by a Polish professor, and he may have indeed studied at German schools as well, but he studied in Bologna and Padua too. Does that make him Italian?

and by the way....

neither here on this board nor in the EU! I

I don't give a flying **** about the E.U!
Filios1   
15 Oct 2008
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

I am a neutral observer of this argument, and now do declare that the Poles have won. Copernicus is, and always will be a Pole in all our minds.

Yes, thats right German Boy, take that Bratwurst and stick it somewhere where the sun don't shine!
Filios1   
13 Oct 2008
Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

respective corners having a rub down

I tried to console both of them by telling them they could come to my place for a few drinks and talk it over, but they would not listen to words of wisdom.
Filios1   
13 Oct 2008
Off-Topic / PF - The Omnibus Edition [1502]

Where is Miranda? Is she no longer hear?

I believe it was Justysia who put her over the top...
Filios1   
8 Oct 2008
Love / Are Polish Girls scared of English Guys [124]

Are Polish Girl's scared of English Guy's. Your thoughts

So I take it you have an ass for a face, and you are stunned as to why some pretty Polish girl won't give you the time of day at the local grocery store?
Filios1   
21 Mar 2008
Travel / Stag Parties in Kraków [119]

YES. Don't go to Krakow.
Hopefully some of my former friends over there will be around to crack your skulls if you start acting like typical drunk Western twats.
Filios1   
19 Mar 2008
Food / Cooked Fruit in Poland - Fruity Fillings, Flan, Pies, Tarts and JAM [85]

Jabłko?

you are talking about fruit soup usually served in the summer and I think people serve it all over Poland. That reminds me of pierogi with blueberries and sour cream and sugar. Mnima, mniam.

mmm. i can feel my stomach calling for me now...
yes, but finally at least one person knows what i was talking about : )
one of my favorites, defintely.. strawberry/blueberry soup with kluski..
Filios1   
19 Mar 2008
Food / Cooked Fruit in Poland - Fruity Fillings, Flan, Pies, Tarts and JAM [85]

Yes! I HATE it.

hehe, so do i! i would gag as a kid when i tried to gulp it down... just something bad about seeing the plums floating in there like that... yuk

Plum butter, on the other hand!

I've never heard of that.

hmm, thats odd.. what region are you from?
anyone else heard of strawberry or blueberry soup in the summertime?
Filios1   
19 Mar 2008
Food / Cooked Fruit in Poland - Fruity Fillings, Flan, Pies, Tarts and JAM [85]

Has anyone ever had strawberry or blueberry, or both together, in kompot form, with some kluski (noodles) as a soup? mmmm, I had a grandma from southern region of Poland who made the best strawberry soup..

i don't know if this is just regionally though?

There's also sour cherry, blueberry, rhubarb, raspberry, mixed berry.

there is also one for wielkanoc (christmas eve) that has plums i believe?
anyone??
Filios1   
19 Mar 2008
Food / Cooked Fruit in Poland - Fruity Fillings, Flan, Pies, Tarts and JAM [85]

The top five apple producing countries in the world are:
(based on est 2004/2005 crop data)
China
United States
Poland
Turkey
Italy

-No wonder there are so many apple juices coming from dear Polska...

The Poles make great use of fruit

Got that right! Nothing is wasted, and everything tastes delicious.. I think I will need to stop at the store tomorrow to grab some jam and have it for breakfast : )
Filios1   
19 Mar 2008
Food / Cooked Fruit in Poland - Fruity Fillings, Flan, Pies, Tarts and JAM [85]

that is my favourite too - how did you know:D I also like and strongly recommend to you Osiol any kind of Polish made Powidła - plum butter - it is to die for. Cannot recommend

I'm telepathic I guess : )
Actually, my 3rd favorite is the Plum butter as well (the name doesn't do it justice) I believe £owicz makes it as well, Osiol, I recommend you buy it next time...

Oh, boy. I don't know if I should be happy or worried:) Thank you. I would not notice it- thanks for pointing it out to me.

No problem : )
hmm, now that you mention it, I joined exactly one year after you did.. Nov 13th : ) All these strange coincidences, haha