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smurf   
16 Feb 2016
Life / Tacky commerpop and the slob chic in Poland? [24]

On this forum Jon that area of expertise belongs to Polonius3
Maybe you didn't get that memo, I didn't either but he certainly rules the roost here on what is good and bad for Polish society.

I just take it for granted that he must be some kind of expert in the field and we should all bow down to his vast knowledge
smurf   
16 Feb 2016
Life / Polish culture versus rotten West [279]

The main difference is its omnipresence and pervasivene

No it isn't

You don't like Rihanna, stop listening to RMF
You don't like Kim Kardashian, don't watch E Entertainment

It's really that feckin simple

None of the spectators wanted to become a gipsy or emualte the bear!

Of course they did, cultures are full of stories of heroes going off and joing the circus, becoming magicians/wizards etc. And if people didn't want to run off and join the travelling bands then where did they keep getting their entertainers from?

Come on man, try harder.
I know if I had a chance to become a trainer for bear jugglers or remain a feckin chicken farmer I know I'd be high tailing it after the travelling troupe.

Today's celebrity system has created a pattern for emulation

No different from 100, 2000, 500, 1000 & 2000 years ago. Christ sake man, you're a (supposed) Christain, you're whole life is based on emulating your long-haired leader.

More and more people these days are taking their cues from showbiz types

Whereas it used to be from clergy, same thing. People are idiots and need to get their cues from elsewhere coz they're too feckin stupid to have an original thought.

who often lead the most convoluted and mucked-up lives around

Same as above.

To a large extent they have replaced genuine authorities

Why do you need authorities? Are you too stupid to have an original thought?

Culture and a sense of aesthetics have been largely displaced by tawdry, tinsley crapola, and in place of ethical values we get ego-tripping and narcissism

No, they haven't.
Aristotle said about young people

They have exalted notions, because they have not been humbled by life or learned its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things -- and that means having exalted notions.

They would rather do noble deeds than useful ones: Their lives are regulated more by moral feeling than by reasoning -- all their mistakes are in the direction of doing things excessively and vehemently. They overdo everything -- love too much, hate too much, and the same with everything else.

The thing is, you're just old and past it man, you don't understand the youth coz you've forgotten what it was like to be young. Societies don't really change, people just get older and fatter and more useless and judgemental.

Celebromania and other aspects of commerpop

These are not words.

impact much of the lives of a growing number of people in Poland and world-wide

As did the lives of celebrities 100, 2000, 500, 1000 & 2000 years ago. Get over it.

I don't know about you, but I feel this stunts people's cultural and intellectual development

And who exactly are you to be the feckin leader on cultural and intellectual development? You're an ultra-religious homophobe bully. You are in no position to pass judgement on what is cultural and intellectual development. Give me a break chopie.

The more so that most people do not realise what is actually happening to them and behind the scenes

Most people don't care. Why don't you understand that. Most poeple would rather watch Rihanna or Kim Kardashian or Barcelona or Bayern Munich than tune in to depressing Polish political broadcasts. Pop culture is escapism, as is sport, people escaping from the grim realities of this f!cked up country or whatever f!cked up country they're from/living in. Can you blame them? I certainly can't.
smurf   
16 Feb 2016
Life / Polish culture versus rotten West [279]

but that they hate themselves

That certainly is the problem.
110%

If I hated myself and my life that much I'd put myself out of my misery.
smurf   
16 Feb 2016
Life / Polish culture versus rotten West [279]

Let me ask you point-blank: are you a big fan of today's popculture?

It's a pointless question.

Tell me this though, what is the difference between today's pop culture and that of the 1960s, or 50s, or 20s or the 1880s?

From a purely sociological viewpoint there is none whatsoever. Pop culture will always focus on people famous from the culture section of society, artists, actors, singers, writers etc.

The populace has always been interested in gossip concerning famous people, be they kings, writers, singers, vloggers. It's is human nature.

Your problem is that while you're obsessed with certain elements of culture, i.e. the political ramblings of morons you fail to understand that for many this means almost nothing. So you rush to judge as if you're style of living is the best.

Stop being a judgemental tossbag and quit the b!tching and moaning. You're a old broken record and it's incredibly boring. If you hate people and life so much, do us all a favour and leave.

Polish traditions and customs seem to be more regional, not really relevant for a lot of Poles and somehow a part of the pas

I agree, Poland isn't really a united country, they only time it is united is durung bandwagon sporting events, other than that it's pretty much a few countries pretending to be one and the sooner it breaks up the better for all involved.
smurf   
12 Feb 2016
Life / Polish culture versus rotten West [279]

In the Republic of Ireland schools step by step have been take over by secular and at the same time left elements of the Irish elite.

I don't know where to being with how much is wrong with this sentence
smurf   
14 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

BANKSTERS NOT BABIES!

TYPING IN CAPITALS IS AWESOME!!!
SERIOUSLY MODS CAN WE PUT A STOP TO THIS PSYCHO TYPING IN CAPITAL LETTERS, THIS ISN'T THE DAILY MAIL COMMENTS SECTION?
smurf   
11 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

But we need to remember that Poland is not just Katowice

Yea tbh if I was with the Ruch Autonomia I'd be workin my arse off to push for autonomy coz of all the bolloxology going on in Warsaw.

The campaign would be something like this
"look at those idiots in Warsaw, we should go out on our own here lads"

They're even replacing hosts on meaningless breakfast TV

I'm waiting for these 'patriotic' shows. I wonder how good/bad they'll be and how many, if any, liberties are taken with the truth for 'dramatic purposes'?

There's this new show in Ireland at the moment called "Rebellion" it being 100 years since the Easter Rising, and it's being panned by everyone because it's not historically accurate enough for people. But I suppose they wanted to make it more dramatic so poeple would watch it. Can't win in a situation like that.
smurf   
11 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Do any Irish sorely regret that state of affairs?

A ;large slice of the blame lays with your buddies the RCC; when schooling was finally made available to Catholics in Ireland it was the Catholic Church who did so much very, very good work to get that to happen. However, they were against the teaching of Ireland as they say it as being regressive and they, wrongly, believed that if the population were ediucated only in English then their job prospects would be far better.

The thing about Israel was it was to re-establish an identity, with us lot, we know our identity, whatever language we speak we'll never lose that, thankfully :)

Sadly I believe that British occupation of Ireland has a great deal to do with loss of language and identity in Ireland.

Yes and no. the thing is they didn't really crack down on Irish speakers as a target, they just targeted people who opposed them, be they English or Irish speakers.

You must take into consideration too that in large parts of the country Irish wasn't really the main language of the people. In places like Dublin, a viking city, Irish was never the main langiuage, there was even a period where you would hear more French than Irish. But that's a longer story. It's like we say at home, if you can trace your family back 5 generations within Dublin, you're English.

also the famine and mass emigration....

Of course.

Poland was occupied for 123 years

Ireland for 600+ years, it's a surprise we survived at all really. Some linguists say that during those 123 years Polish stagnated. And they have a point. Languages in Europe at that time were more 'formal' and Polish is still quite a formal language, so if we were to say that while German, Russian etc continues to evolve, Polish kind of stood still for 123 years. It's certainly back with a bang now though and great that Poles never stopped speaking it.

It would be of vast advantage to mankind if all the inhabitants of the earth spoke the same language.

And it's difficult not to disagree with that.
I'm Irish no matter what language I speak.
I think the only way to 'save' Irish is to either a) stop teaching it and let people become patriotic about it....like the Manx & Cornish languages, or b) Switch every thing to Irish, media, all govt documents etc.

I think a would work, b would be a disaster.

I hope the mods see that I'm replying to points made and this doesn't gettin binned.

On topic, I attended the Katowice KOD protest again and I think the numbers there were larger than the last. Certainly there were a good deal more younger people than the last time.

I wonder how long before we see any changes to what's on our TV screens? Surely it'll take 3-6 months before anything tv programmes of worth come out?
smurf   
10 Jan 2016
Polonia / Should Poles help Germans organize protests demanding free media ? [136]

trying to make light of over

I'm not making light of anything.
Sexual assault is serious.
However, I thought, wrongly I admit, that there were no rapes reported.

But I do think it's pretty f*ckin stupid that every refugee gets tarred with the same brush coz of the actions of some boozed-up idiots.
smurf   
10 Jan 2016
Polonia / Should Poles help Germans organize protests demanding free media ? [136]

recent mass rapes

Why are you telling lies?
Nobody was raped in Cologne on NYE.
They were sexually assaulted, not raped.
And by sexual assault a lot of women had their asses and boobs grabbed.
No different than most nightclubs/danceclubs in Poland every weekend.
smurf   
10 Jan 2016
Life / Payment method for Electricity / Gas / Internet bills in Poland [3]

I'd reckon the vast amout of people pay bills through their banks with transfers.
With things like utilities though you can pay them in your local post office too.

I'd get a Polish bank account if I was you, just to make things easier.
smurf   
10 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

That's meant to be a headline

OH that MAKES it OK then.
I know FROM the NEWSPAPERS and WEBSITES that I READ that ALL headlines ARE in CAPITALS

............annoying isn't it?

The only alternative is to provide a headline in caps.

A better alternative would be to stop posting forever.

Personal question....you know the troll story from the other thread, the paid troll who is paid to troll online forums and wesbites?
You are one of the them aren't you?
What's the pay? I'm thinking of a career change.
smurf   
10 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Nobody cares about

Hungary and Serbia

.
Nobody.

Everyone knows what it means ltierally

I doubt that, there's not really that many Polish speakers on the planet

"Wh*re, I missed my bus!" "Or what the wh*re are you doing?

Yes, they do, they say exactly that in Polish.
smurf   
10 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

KOD - POLITICAL SPRINGBOARD FOR A RUTHLESS HANDFUL

I think THAT it IS REALLY helpful WHEN you TYPE in CAPITALS

One of the KOD board members wrote in reply

Yea, sure, I love the way that it's totally proven that that was said.
Oh no wait, it wasn't

k*rwa

it means wh0re, you're welcome
smurf   
9 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

Have you checked who owns that?

That's not the issue of who owns it though. I mean Rupert Murdoch owns Sky and he's evil incarnate.
What's important is that they are independent. Doesn't matter what views they spew, the govt cannot control them. Y'know if PiS lose power and PO come back in then Polsat will be against PO, that's OK, that's their market. But at least they won't have to follow a party line, PO will be able to use PiS' law to do that in public television.

What makes you say PIS have won that?

It looks to me like it nothing will be changed for 4 years. I hate saying it but I can't see PiS being outted until their time is up. Yes, the opposition are regrouping finally, but unless a snap election is called (it won't be) then PiS are going to stay where they are.

The only thing we can do as concerned citizens is attend protest and put our local representatives under pressure and let them know that we aren't happy with how things are being done.

The real failure here is democracy, how a party with such a low margin can win power is very much undemocratic.

And this BS about parties needing 5%+ that's nonsense....although I'm happy Korwin didn't get in, he still should be in parliament. This thing of having zero independent politicians is utterly, utterly ridiculous, but that's a different issue for a different time I guess. It's the same in England, 3 parties constantly, only 2 of them ever being in power. That's not democracy, it's just an illusion of democracy.
smurf   
9 Jan 2016
News / Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy. [2554]

being forced to pay extra taxes to fund a government mouthpiece is madness.

It's no different than the BBC in Britain though really.

I'm putting my journalist's hat back on here.....this is what I think.
On one hand the new media law doesn't matter, why? Most people don't get their news from the public new channels, they watch the privately owned ones. The same goes for newspapers & radio, thankfully too.

Even though it certainly appears to be an anti-free press law, EU law won't allow the press to be gagged. And they won't be gagged becasue most of the media is privately owned.

On the other hand though, I have to say that the vast majority of Polish journalists should be utterly ashamed of themselves. In most countries they would be striking in protest over these new laws. But they're not, they're cowards, more concerned with keeping their pay cheque coming.

I honestly don't think that the new media laws will make much of a difference to how people consume media here. TVN & Polsat will remain independent. The same goes for the radio stations.

Now, of course they'll still be pushing their own bias. But all media is biased (towards their target market). With the launch of Netflix now in Poland even more people will begin the migration away from national television and continue to watch things on demand over the internet. Old media is dying a slow death and give it 5, maybe 10 years and we just won't have a monopoly of national stations anymore, they won't be needed becasue we'll all be watching what we want to watch when we want to watch it.

There will of course still be news channels. But we can already see the changes. Look at the UK, you have the BBC & Sky News news pumping out a conservative viewpoint, while Channel 4 and ITV are far more liberal. The Independent has gone totally liberal, while the Guardian has always been. The Telegraph and The Daily Fail continue to be ultra conservative. When print media was predicted to die these outlets went full out to really target their niches and they did so. Especially the Daily Mail, I think it's the most read online paper in Europe or something like that.

I really wouldn't be too pessimistic about the media laws, while private ownership is allowed then the media landscape in Poland will remain balanced, and so long as access to foreign media is allowed we'll all be able to get our media from wherever we want.

A far greater threat to democracy in Poland is the whole kerfuffle over the tribunal, and PiS have certainly won that.

Edit....I will add that I don't really watch Polish tv, other than live sport I don't really watch much tv anyway and I get almost 100% of my news from internet outlets.
smurf   
4 Jan 2016
Life / Polish and Slavic Art [48]

umorisa.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/polish-folklore-t-shirt/

Thanks for that, I'll inform the person who originally designed the image they are using.
smurf   
4 Jan 2016
Love / English guy marrying Polish Fiancee - how expensive is a wedding in Poland? [6]

pay a lot of money to the British Embassy in Warsaw

Wherever you get married you're going to need to do this and do it in that country's embassy. Well, you can do all this remotely of course, but they'll still need to be done.

I had a church wedding, I don't recommend it, we had to jump thtough all kinds of mad hoops, even attending marriage courses, where we learned about the evils of contraception! Lol.

Doing it in a registry office here though it pretty easy, you need that UK embassy document...how much is it? My Irish one was I think 60euros, but I think that's the only state document I needed, I needed a whole ton of church paperwork but that doesn't apply to you, luckily.

If I was in your boat, I'd just do it here, Poland's pretty cheap to get married in and weddings pretty much pay for themselves (so long as you ask enough people to come that is) and importantly, you don't want to pi$$ off the wicked tesciowa already. Remember, she's your free babysitter when that day comes ;)

You could looks at options in Czech & Slovakia, that way most invited guests could still make it, but y'know, they have similar legal systems so the requirements will be similar, plus your fiance will have to submit and get here paparwork in order too coz she won't be a citizen of those places. I think you'd be making it far handier on yourselves to do it here. Trust me, you'll already be stressed and have arguments about organising it so my advice is to try and keep those to a minimum.

G'luck
smurf   
3 Jan 2016
Law / Biggest supermarket chains in Poland vs Germany [23]

while they do not allow foreign supermarkets on their soil?

Just a quick google shows that there are plenty of 'foreign' supermarkets in Germany; Spar for example, they are Dutch.
smurf   
3 Jan 2016
Law / Biggest supermarket chains in Poland vs Germany [23]

why the germans are complaining about the new taxes to their supermarket chains in Poland while they do not allow foreign supermarkets on their soil?

Well, the thing is, like with the stupid levy that Pi$ have put on the banks this will only end up costing consumers more.
Yea, they govt will receive more tax money from this, but the shops will just do the obvious (like the banks already have) and increase prices so it ends up being yet another stealth tax on the consumer.

I don't really understand why they must be so sneaky about these levies, if I were in charge I'd come up with a simple road tax where 1% of people's wages goes into that fund.

Another potential tax idea that would be better would be something like in Ireland with the USC tax.
Why can't they just be upfront about it?

Why are the German chains complaining? That's pretty obvious. They are here for profit, this stupid 'tax' eats into it and will end up with them putting their prices up, meaning consumers will be somewhat disgruntled and leads to bad PR for them. Tesco and the French chains (you left out Leclerc & Auchan) are in the same boat.
smurf   
3 Jan 2016
News / Do you think Germany will stop buying out Polish media? [15]

that image is full of mistakes:

More up to date info is available here (from an independent source as of October 2015:
money.pl/gospodarka/wiadomosci/artykul/media-w-polsce-do-kogo-nalezy-prasa-,138,0,1988746.html

media