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Paulina   
1 Feb 2014
Love / The sexual lives of Polish immigrants (they have more sex than in Poland?) [16]

no doubt that in the Kielce's and Bialystok's of the nation - life is tough and the member does not rise too often

Why are you picking on Kielce, £ódź and Białystok?
I've read the article you've linked to in your thread about those patrols and according to what is written there such patrols take place in Warsaw, Poznań and Wrocław. There's also a comment quoted from some Mikołaj guy who states: "It's time to patrol clubs in Bydgoszcz and Toruń".

There was also a meeting of PLO in Warsaw in cafe Niespodzianka.
There's no mention of Kielce, £ódź or Białystok.

I am not aware of any PLO patrols taking place in Kielce. I don't even know what would be the point since there are very few foreigners in Kielce in the first place and, I can imagine, even fewer Muslims (if there are any at all, because I haven't met any).

Also, I had a look at PLO internet site and the forum. The administrator of the forum is from Mazowsze. The contact info for PLO is Stargard Szczeciński (zachodniopomorskie voivodeship). There seems to be barely any activity on the forum in general which is a good sign, I guess :)

Generally speaking, young Polish women coming to the US, UK, and Germany are very promiscuous.

According to that survey the British people were the most promiscuous in the 2008 and I suspect it didn't change much since that time.
I think that's one of the reasons Polish immigrants (both men and women) change their sexual habits when they move to the UK.
They become influenced by the British society and they adapt.

That Google translation provided by Xromium is dreadful so here's the original article:

A fragment at the end of the article (in that grey block):

"Has the departure to the UK changed the sexual life of Polish emigrants?

- Over 50% of people researched by me declared that yes. The extent of risky sexual behaviour has increased. Both in the medical and psychosocial context. The first simply means a sexual intercourse without protection with a random person. Before living the UK less than 19% of subjects of the survey has decided to take such step, after arrival - 30%. In Poland more often it is connected with alcohol, here - with drugs.

The second context is behaviour that we can consider risky, because it makes it difficult to create a stable relationship or it's causing it to fall apart.

Which means?

- Poles living in the UK cheat more often (55% in comparisment to 40% in Poland), decide to engage in group sex (15.7%, in Poland it's 4.4%), swinging (9.3%, in Poland it's 1.7%), having sex for help or favour (17.2%, in Poland it's 5.1%)."

Indeed, it was here months ago:

The woman that did the survey says that the "Daily Mail" article was manipulated, btw:

Before living the UK less than 19%

Before arrival in the UK
Paulina   
31 Jan 2014
Genealogy / Poles born under Russian control - are we Russian? [29]

TheOther, why does it bother you so much? I've never could understand this and I still don't. Poland didn't turn into Germany, Austria and Russia. It remained Poland. We have an independent Poland now and it's super cool that we do :) Get over it maybe, I don't know...
Paulina   
31 Jan 2014
Genealogy / Andruszkiewicz, Judycki surnames [20]

I doubt it.

Um... OK... But... Well, you see, if one of the spouses is of possible noble ancestry then it can be some surname coincidence, maybe, I guess, I don't know... But if the other spouse is of possible noble ancestry too... Then most probably it's no coincidence, because nobles did marry among each other in the past. I don't know what ben-Yudyt means but names Józef and Jakub were and are used by Poles too.

Also, the fact that Franciszka retained her maiden name could mean she was of noble ancestry. Of course, it's just my guess, but it all fits pretty well.

I found an official list of szlachta that lived in Vilinius region here: ... [in Polish but it's a list only - there are both Andruszkiewicz and Judycki surnames]

I've also found "Andruszkiewicz" among Polish nobles from Wołyń:

hen conspiracy of Emperors made the weakening Republic was sentenced to non-existence, its eastern - Lithuanian and Russian - lands were in the next partitions attached to the Russian Empire, in the the Volyn, who in 1795 became one of the province consisting of 12 districts - the central city of Zhitomir. Volyn nobility found itself facing a new legal and administrative situation, so different from the Polish law and tradition.

Initially, after the division of the lands attached to the governorates and the introduction of the Russian government, maintained the old land courts and Polish officials lower administration and tried to get the favor of the Polish nobility, and through her nobility having estates - posesjonatów. In contrast, treated suspiciously minor gentry, most strongly patriotic [3]. In areas connected, the Polish element was liczebniejszy from invaders and not very readable - the same dangerous - in its ownership. That is why, among other things, it was decided to verify the Polish nobility by ordering her "Hramoty of nobility" to identify themselves before Herold in the St. Petersburg. As rightly foresees a large part of the nobility fine made considerable trouble to present the relevant documents which may indicate nobility.

Paulina   
31 Jan 2014
Genealogy / Andruszkiewicz, Judycki surnames [20]

No. For whatever reason, the Andrulevièus name became played with and got turned into variants like:

Are you sure? Because it looks like her husband could have noble ancestry too:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judycki
Paulina   
31 Jan 2014
Genealogy / Andruszkiewicz, Judycki surnames [20]

Franciszka Andruszkiewiczowna Judicka and Antonio Judicki

Originally it must have been "Judycka" and "Judycki". Here you have an example of a person with such surname:
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnieszka_Judycka

As for "Adruszkiewicz"... That's interesting. Does your family has noble roots perhaps?
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andruszkiewicz_%28herb_szlachecki%29

And somebody who looks as Polish as [insert the most Polish thing you can think of here] but uses a non-Polish first name and a non-Polish surname very possibly doesn't consider themself to be Polish.

Harry, what on Earth are you talking about? Ask an American to read/pronounce the name "Franciszka" lol No wonder she changed it to "Frances" (English equivalent of her name).
Paulina   
29 Jan 2014
Love / Polish girls don't go for one night stands, is it true? [56]

Who would do what, sweetie? lol Would Polish "chicks" in night clubs "bend over easily" for you? Well, if you buy them enough drinks it is possible that they will get drunk and bend over... a bar or a table :) And maybe they will even have sex with you... lol
Paulina   
28 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Yes prejudice could be a reason but it doesn't explain why the phrase was only used recently when prejudice was still very much present.

I'm not sure what you mean by "recently". According to this link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

...it was first used in this sense in 1877.
According to Wikipedia article this term is used since the 1950s. I would see a simple reason for this - after the World War II anti-Semitism started to be a big "no no" and so the prejudices were diminishing.

They were on a mission from God to liberate the soul and mind unlike the Catholics who just wanted conversions.

I'm not sure what's the difference, to be honest. Both denominations wanted to convert to save souls and both wanted to get lands and riches, I guess lol

And they didn't need to stress links between Christianity and Judaism to do that...

Biblical Protestantism also needed a link to Jewish scripture otherwise there would be a detachment from God

I'm sorry, Barney, but what you write doesn't make any sense to me. What link to Jewish scripture? And why only Protestantism? The Old Testament is the part of the Bible for both Catholicism and Protestantism (and Orthodox Christianity).

No further "link" is needed...

Put these things together and you have a reason to invent this Judeo/Christian idea, It kind of kills two birds with one stone.

lol
One doesn't have to invent anything, imo, Barney...
I really don't see how recognising Jewish roots of Christianity would help to justify colonialism. I'm not sure what "cranking into gear" means, but when the colonial powers were discovering and "acquiring" new lands this term "Judeo-Christian" wasn't in use yet, I think? Wasn't it the 16th and the 17th century mainly? The Age of Discovery? The term "Judeo-Christian" is used only since the 1950s (according to that Wikipedia link).
Paulina   
28 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

If we are talking about Christianity why the Judeo part, why was it added when for the overwhelming majority of history it was never mentioned. There was no talk of Judeo/Christian traditions during the Crusades, nor during the great Christian Schism or indeed during the later religious wars.

Well, the fact that Christians were prejudiced against Jews could be a reason, I guess...

This nonsense came about with the rise of Colonialism.

What do you mean?

Btw, did you know that Polish word for Saturday ("sobota") comes from Jewish "Shabbat"? It's the same in Spanish, Italian, Czech, Russian, Croatian.
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

That's true. We both find prolonged interaction with you 'tiresome'. Please ask yourself why.

I'm asking you both, let's call it, inconvenient questions, I'm giving reasonable and logical arguments and I'm not letting go until you answer (and you usually don't) or you or jon357 start trying to weasel out of answering, usually by getting personal (which shows what kind of people you are).
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

You (Paulina) ask too many questions.

I've asked jon357 two questions :) I haven't got an answer yet to any of them.

If they get answered,

The problem is they don't get answered.

And if evidence is presented, you don't bother to look at it.

Stop lying (again) and going back to an old discussion (again) and making it personal (again).

Interaction with you rapidly becomes tiresome.

You know, you and jon357 are quite alike, I've noticed, you have one common characteristic I don't like. I think that's why you find interaction with me "tiresome" :)
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

And Europe as well as our planet is shrinking - terms like 'Judeo-Christian don't have the same relevance as they once did,

This doesn't change the historical fact that the Judeo-Christian (or only "Christian", if you like) element was one of the foundations of European civilisation.

You wrote "the terminology is subjective" but I don't understand what's so subjective in stating that one of the foundations of European civilisation is, for example, Ancient Rome?

Or Ancient Greece?
The alphabet? Roman law? Latin language? Art and architecture? Philosophers? Etc. etc.?

Yes, Europe is changing, the modern Europe has and will be getting some new foundations and influences, etc. but I don't see how this changes historical facts.

And yes, if you do want to talk about 'Judeo-Christian' in the context immigration by Muslims, you do have to look at the the similarities between all three Abrahamic religions and the way they shaped the societies they came in contact with.

Jon357, the fact that Islam is one of the Abrahamic religions doesn't make it a big influence on Europe, it's mainstream culture, etc.

You wrote yourself, as I've understood it, that Europe is becoming more and more secular so how any religion would have a great influence on European civilisation nowadays?

For Islam to make such a big impact on Europe as Christianity had or Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece majority of people in Europe would have to, for example, convert to Islam. We would have to adopt Arabic alphabet (instead of Latin alphabet).

I don't know, maybe it will happen one day :), but I don't see it happening right now.
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

No, jon357, I'm just asking what you meant by "Which we've established can't be objectively described as 'Judeo-Christian'."

I don't even want to discuss anything anymore, I just wanted you to clarify this one simple thing and any sane person would do this long ago, but you've turned it into some kind of a big problem.

This is simply ridiculous.

Because I think we can both see from the thread that your 'question' is far from simple.

No, it is very simple.
Your answer could be, for example: "Yes, I think the "Judeo-" part should be dropped".
Or: "No, what I meant was..."

And I'm continuing this only because it looks like you're trying to weasel out of answering the question, again (since I don't comprehend why any sane person would make such a big deal out of clarifying something about their comment).

Perhaps you can find someone in the chat box to argue with.

lol
You've started to argue, jon357, not me.

It's really annoying when someone demands you answer THEIR questions. Sure sign they're only interested in the points they're makin

Maybe you could explain it to me why do you think that asking for claryfing something about jon357's comment shows that I'm interested in the points I'm making?

The funny thing is that all I want to know is what jon357 thinks, but he's not willing to tell me... lol

OK, I give up, looks like my English isn't good enough to express my intentions and even what I'm trying to say.

This hasn't been established at all.

That's my impression too.
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Because, Paulina, this isn't a question and answer session.

No, jon357, this is a discussion and people are allowed to ask questions during a discussion.
I've asked you to answer just one simple thing, because I didn't know what you meant exactly and clarifying this to me would probably take you one or two sentences and yet you refused repeatedly (during all this time you could simply answer my question).

I didn't understand whether you meant that the "Judeo-" part in the "Judeo-Christian" term should be dropped or whether you disagree that one of the foundations of European culture and European civilisation was that "Judeo-Christian" or "Christian" element.

And thus, I also didn't know where this authoritative "we've established" came from. So, as you see, I don't know what was "established", according to you, and by whom.

That's all.

And yes, some of the answers to your 'questions' are now in Random.

Well, that's not my fault.
If your answers addressed to me were put into Random then give me links to them and I'll answer there.
Unless you mean posts from the general discussion on this thread - then I'm not going to waste my time on searching for them in the bin.

I've asked you just one question. Just answer it and let's finish this *sigh*

Jon357, why do you make such a problem of every discussion with me? Why can't you just answer one simple question?
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Jon357, I'm not trying to argue, I think you are. And you keep not answering my questions, I don't understand why... That's one thing.

Second thing - could you answer my question concerning this comment: "Which we've established can't be objectively described as 'Judeo-Christian'."?
You wrote that I should read the thread but I joined the discussion about the term "Judeo-Christian" while it was still taking place and I haven't seen any collective unanimous establishing of anything. Just people giving their opinions about this term (me included).

So what are you talking about? Who established what exactly?
(And no, I'm not going to dig through the Random and search for posts there o_O).

You do know that most of the biblical exegesis you've heard is far later than the world in which Christianity changed from being a small sect to a large religion? Or the discontinuity between the Jerusalemites (gone without a trace) and the Hellenistic Christians? All fairly standard stuff.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah#Judaism

"In Jewish eschatology, the term came to refer to a future Jewish king from the Davidic line, who will be "anointed" with holy anointing oil, to be king of God's kingdom, and rule the Jewish people during the Messianic Age. In Judaism, the Messiah is not considered to be God or a pre-existent divine Son of God. Belief in the eventual coming of a future messiah is a fundamental part of Judaism, and is one of Maimonides' 13 Principles of Faith.[8]"

You can't talk about Christianity without that - it's central to the Theology - read St John's gospel (the first chapter will do if you can't manage all of it)

Jon357, what on Earth are you talking about?
Christianity has it's roots in Judaism. I don't see how the concept of logos in Christianity would somehow change this rather basic fact o_O

No matter what pagan additions it may have, the roots of Christianity are in Judaism.

Anyway, Paulina, how do you think this relates to Poland not becoming like France?

What relates?

Anyway, Paulina, if you can find someone who's still prepared to talk to you and doesn't mind playing games, good luck

Pity you've changed your comment.
But your demagogy doesn't work on me.
I don't play any mind games. I'm trying to have a normal discussion with you but you're not making it easy...
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Read the thread carefully - if you still don't understand, why bother posting?

I posted to comment about the "Judeo-Christian" term.
You wrote "Which we've established can't be objectively described as 'Judeo-Christian'."
What did you mean by that?
That the "Judeo-" part should be dropped and the term should be "Christian" only?

No. Theologically it comes more from other sources - read up on the logos.

Jon357, what do you mean? Christians believe that the Jewish Messiah has come (as prophesied in the Old Testament) and they pray to the God of Abraham lol

Not to any god, but to that particular God. They consider the Old Testament their holy book too. So I'm not sure what you're talking about (logos or no logos).
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Have a look at the thread

I'm not sure what you mean and where I'm supposed to look. I haven't established with you what you claim we've established ;)

Could you be so kind and perhaps quote or provide a link to a post you have in mind? :)

Ditto

?

Christianity as we know it has far more Theological influences from outside Judaism

I wouldn't agree with that. But as I already wrote it doesn't matter - Christianity comes from Judaism. Not from Hinduism, Shinto or even from the religion of Ancient Rome. Christianity has it's roots in Judaism.

I don't even why we're still discussing it...?
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Which we've established can't be objectively described as 'Judeo-Christian'.

Where have "we" established that?

That process is certainly starting.

In what way?

Less so than Islam, since Christian practice (and theology) has far more outside influence.

Less or more, it doesn't matter, jon357, the fact is - Christianity has it's roots in Judaism and that's what I've stated...

(seems to me you want to argue :))
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

What is indigenous European?

Barney, it had some influence in those places, I'm sure, just like, let's say, Slavic culture had and still has some influence in Poland or Celtic in, I don't know, Scotland or Ireland, but it didn't affect the European culture as a whole, it wasn't a common element. It was a local influence.

This modern ill defined phrase is like "stuff" it can mean anything, calling it a tradition is not kosher.

Then don't use it, if you don't like it ;)

Paulina a lot of people use that phrase without understanding usually without malice, but you can be sure when pressed most will struggle to accurately define it.

I think there's nothing wrong with this term when it's used in the context I've mentioned. Those were the foundations of European civilisation. Of course, Europe is changing and it will continue to change, I guess. Some new influences are being added and will be added. But the core historical foundations were those I mentioned, I think. And there's nothing wrong with that. Every continent had it's history and influences :)

Those who use it with deliberate intent tend to use it as code for White European.

Well, if you say so :)
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

That must make all the difference.

What do you mean?
I wrote "that's all I can say".
Meaning - I only know that it was used at my school.
Do you understand?

Neither is Judaism, except by immigration or Christianity, except by proselytising.

Um... Jon357, I'm talking about the main, general foundations of European culture and European civilisation in general, common for all European countries.
I am not aware of Islam being one of them. The Quran didn't have any influence on general European culture. Islam is even younger than the Christianity, so I don't see how would that be even possible. I'm talking about historical foundations, not present day influences or whatever or even local historical influences in some countries. The main reason why this term "Judeo-Christian" is used, I imagine, is because Christianity has it's roots in Judaism. Not in Islam. Islam has it's roots in Judaism, just as Christianity.

(Btw, I'm not writing this because I have sth against Islam o_O I don't. It's just history, people...)
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

If it exists at all as a valid concept.

Well, it existed at my school, I guess, that's all I can say :)

And if it does, we can't ignore Islam which is part of the same religious heritage.

Not of European heritage, though.
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

a representation of David would be anathema to religious Jews.

It doesn't matter, jon357. We're not talking about term "Judeo", but "Judeo-Christian".
I've given "David" as an example to show what the European culture was influenced by. It wasn't only influenced by the New Testament, but also by the Old Testament.

I guess one could argue that since Christianity and Christian culture is a kind of hybrid of Judaism and pagan Roman/Greek influences, the addition of the "Judeo-" part is redundant because everybody knows what are the roots of Christanity and Christian culture.

I don't know. I didn't coin this term and I don't really care ;)

A christian sculptor took a character from the hebrew bible and depicted him in a way that would horrify the ancient hebrews. (The idea of showing a full body statue of a king is anathema to jews, and a naked one yet!).

xD

The depiction is greco-roman if anything.

Of course it is. That was my point ;)
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Btw, I can even give a simple and easily recognisable example, if anyone is interested:

David

"David" by Michelangelo is one of the symbols of Renaissance (and of European culture, I guess). It's a classical sculpture (Ancient Greece/Ancient Rome) but depicts a Jewish king from a Jewish holy book. And, of course, it was made for Christians ;)
Paulina   
27 Jan 2014
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

This so called "tradition" has no basis in reality, if it is clear and obvious explain what it is and when it was established as a tradition?

Well, I was taught at school that the European civilisation in general (not only Western, mind you :)) had basically three main foundations: Judeo-Christian, ancient Roman and ancient Greek. That's the history of our continent, I'm not sure why is that a problem?

Christianity is a branch of Judaism, as is Islam.

I have a feeling Jews wouldn't agree with your statement xD

Christ is a name from the Greek language.

Messiah comes from Hebrew though ;)

I don't think the theological differences matter as far as this term "Judeo-Christian tradition" is concerned. It's about culture, I think.
Paulina   
21 Jan 2014
Language / rules for genetive declension of female nouns ending in 'a' [8]

Does this sound complete? Anything I'm missing? Thanks in advance!

Solaris783, I must say I'm impressed - I'm a native speaker and I wasn't even aware of those rules lol I guess as kids we simply learn all of this stuff by heart unconsciously.

So I'm afraid I can't help you with this...

I'll add that I'm doing this because I'm writing a program to help me with Polish. As I'm reading srories, lessons, news, etc, I can highlight a any word and the program would give me the meaning of the word, which declension is being used, and why.

Sounds cool :)
Paulina   
14 Jan 2014
Life / Eating out in Poland, is it expensive? [28]

Can someone please tell me honestly what is the cost of meal in Poland.

Here's a menu of a bar mleczny in Wrocław called "Miś":
barmlecznymis.net/ulotkamis.pdf

First course - soup - 3 or 4 PLN (1.32 USD)
Second course - pork chop with potatos and raw salad - 9.9 PLN (3.26 USD)

So it's 4.58 USD for a two course meal.
Paulina   
14 Jan 2014
Life / Eating out in Poland, is it expensive? [28]

If you don't mind eating at "bar mleczny", buying a kebab, etc. from a booth (I eat them and I have no problems) then I don't think you would go bankrupt :))

"Bar mleczny" is a kind of cheap diner, a remnant from the communist times, students eat there, for example. You'll find there everyday homemade-like meals.

Thailand, Greece, South America - this sounds more interesting, though :)