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DominicB   
5 Apr 2014
Life / Why is there such interest in Poland from the Asian population? A new wave of migrants possibly? [23]

Poland(Wroclaw particularly) is destined to be the next silicon valley of europe and that can only happen if the local skill-set rises up to the same level as what is currently the basic level in the western world.

Dream on. That isn't going to happen unless compensation is high enough to attract the best talent. Unfortunately, there's still a long way to got there. Outsourcing centers are not centers of innovation and enterprise. They do the dull, routine grunt work that the creative types couldn't be bothered with. They hire the cheapest, not the best.
DominicB   
3 Apr 2014
Life / Why is there such interest in Poland from the Asian population? A new wave of migrants possibly? [23]

If judging by polishforums.com it seems that most of them are IT people trying to move from world biggest IT outsourcing center - India to Europe's biggest outsourcing center - Poland.

And a lot of them are high level techs like SAP consultants or other well paid, hard to find specialists. I suspect that the wages being offered for those jobs in Poland aren't attractive to Poles anymore, who've moved west for much better wages, leaving holes in the existing structure. The outsourcing centers would apparently rather bring in less demanding techs from India and other developing countries than raise wages for the Poles who formerly held those jobs. After all, the infrastructure is already there, so it doesn't mean they have to build anything to employ the Indians. It might actually work out cheaper than building new centers in India.
DominicB   
31 Mar 2014
Study / Opinion required on teaching standards of Polands technology universities [11]

Your post is by far the best I have seen on this forum regarding this issue.

Thank you very much. I know what I'm talking about. I mentor Polish students and high school kids interested in studying sciences, and most of the people I know are engineers or scientists, engineering and science students, or future engineering and science students. A few minutes ago, one of the students I mentor called me to tell me that he's been accepted into the engineering program at Detroit Mercy. With a full-ride scholarship! He's doing a half year prep at Portland State now, and just got a GPA of 3.86 for the Winter trimester. Not bad for a kid who was a hopeless slacker when I first met him.

Also, I've been living in Poland and involved in academia here for twelve years now, so I know the score. What's going on here is that Polish universities have recently begun to aggressively recruit students from developing countries because of the baby bust. A lot of the marketing I've seen has been really heavy on the hype and not exactly honest, to be frank. One thing that bothers me is that they sorta imply that foreign students will be able to work here in Poland during their studies. I don't know many foreign students that actually do. In fact, I don't know any. They also sorta imply that there are plenty of top jobs just waiting for them here in Poland. Get real! Engineering jobs in Poland are overwhelmingly outsourced or "internally outsourced", and far from well paid compared to the West.

Of course, there are plenty of fish that bite because they see Poland as a back door to the richer countries of the EU, or because they are not aware that Poland is not one of the richer countries in the EU.
DominicB   
31 Mar 2014
Work / Australian looking to teach English in Poland [25]

And I think I'm right in saying there's actually free English groups at a venue in this city for people at the shopping malls.

That's right. Tuesdays at Skytower, and Thursdays at Renoma. I've been running these groups for six years, but unfortunately have to return to the States in a month. If you're interested in taking over, stop by. We meet from 18:00 to 21:00, in Skytower on the first floor at 212 Lifestyle cafe, and at Renoma on the first floor in from of the French connection. Talk to the handsome dude with the long white beard.

There are other groups scattered throughout the city as well on different nights. I know there's one in Chopper Bar in the Old Town, for example.

By the way, I do it as my charity project.
DominicB   
31 Mar 2014
Work / Australian looking to teach English in Poland [25]

Hoping to get info/opinions on the feasibility of supporting myself as an English teacher in Poland.

Basically, that boat has sailed. You're about fifteen years too late. The accession of Poland into the EU, the economic crisis, an increasing number of qualified Polish English teachers, and scads of unemployed and unemployable British and Irish slackers who will teach for peanuts have all driven wages down, increased competition, and contributed to making teaching English for non-EU not a very attractive option, especially in the big, popular cities like Wrocław, Kraków and Warsaw.

Few schools are willing to go through the hassle of getting work permission for a non-EU citizen, and fewer and fewer offer full-time work contracts, opting instead for freelance "garbage contracts", which are useless for establishing residency. The profitable contracts with companies to teach employees on the job have also largely dried up due to the economic crisis. A few opportunities might be found off the beaten track in the hinterlands, but it's probably not worth the time and effort to seek them out as those jobs will become less attractive in the coming years.

Furthermore, wages have stagnated or gone down over the last few years, while the cost of living has gone up considerably, so even as a slacking-off, slumming-it year or two adventurous break from real life, it's not at all attractive anymore, and you might well end up spending more than you make, especially if you calculate in airfare to Poland and back and the cost of getting a residence permit. Setting yourself up as a freelance operator is not really an attractive option for non-EU citizens. You'll need a real work contract to establish residency, and those are getting very hard to come by.

Like InWrocław said, there are plenty of threads about this on this forum.

Is there anything I can do in australia, other than learn polish, that will look good on my CV?

It would be absurd to beef up your CV in order to get a measly job as an English teacher in Poland. Beef it up so that you can get a better real job at home. Under the best circumstances, it will take you over two years to learn Polish well enough to communicate relatively easily, and probably longer. It's highly unlikely that you will spend that long in Poland before giving it up, so there's no point in learning Polish.
DominicB   
31 Mar 2014
Work / Warsaw vs Kraków (Business and Study - planning to study and possibly live there for a while) [7]

It would help to know what you want to study, and what are your future plans. Overall, the standard of tertiary education in Poland is lower than in the West, and job opportunities are fewer and further between. Sorry, but I don't see very many advantages to studying in Poland. See my answer to this thread:
https://polishforums.com/archives/2010-2019/study/warsaw-university-technology-power-70434/
DominicB   
31 Mar 2014
Study / Warsaw University of Technology - Power engineering or production engineering & management? [14]

what is more demand in the job markets and companies

In terms of job prospects, lifetime earning potential, lifetime savings potential, portability, and recession-proofness, three engineering fields stand out far above the rest: petroleum engineering, geological engineering and biomedical engineering. Unless you have a good reason not to, it would be wise to consider one of these fields.

As for studying in Poland, while it may be cheaper than studying in the West, students unanimously complain about two major drawbacks: insufficient funding for practical courses, and poor partnering and sponsorship of schools by the business and industrial communities. The latter is a big problem not only because of funding, but also in terms of job opportunities and opportunities for advancement.

The job market for engineers in Poland is not very competitive on a global scale. In almost all fields, Poland produces more engineers than it can employ, and many young Polish engineers seek better opportunities abroad. Again, job opportunities, opportunities for advancement, lifetime earning potential, lifetime savings potential and overall quality of life are far higher for engineers in the West than for their peers in Poland.

A lot of engineering jobs in Poland, especially in IT, are outsourced or "internally outsourced", meaning that the employees are almost completely cut off from the corporate structure, making networking, and thus advancement, difficult or downright impossible. Little money is spent on enhancing employee qualifications. Furthermore, the overriding criterion in all employee-employer interactions is keeping wages as low as possible. If you want to advance, get a job for a Western corporation in the mainstream part of its operations.

As a non-EU foreigner who presumably does not speak Polish, there is little reason to study engineering in Poland. Better educational opportunities exist in abundance in the West.

Learning Polish would be a waste of time because it's highly unlikely that you will spend the rest of your life in Poland. You'd soon be tempted by better employment opportunities abroad.

Cost may be a factor, but for graduate degrees, financial aid of various kinds is available in the West, even for foreigners. Financial aid in Poland would be very difficult to get, and not be anywhere as generous as in the West. Student employment is possible, and even probable, in the West. There is little chance that you will be able to work as a student in Poland. Whatever money you would save on studies would be lost in the long run, if not the short run.

Bottom line: study petroleum engineering, geological engineering or biomedical engineering at a good school in Western Europe in an English-speaking country, especially the U.S.

If you can't get in this year, spend it beefing up your qualifications in Egypt, and do some effective networking with your professors in Egypt and prospective academic advisors in the West. Correspond in abundance with people who are doing the stuff you are interested in, and inquire about grad school opportunities, and, most importantly, whether they know anyone else who can help you. Once you get someone at a good school interested in you, they will be able to find sufficient funding for your studies and research.

Or study in Egypt. A degree from a good engineering school in Poland is not worth much more than a degree from a good engineering school in Egypt, and taking cost and quality of life into account, is probably not worth the trouble.

One last thing: as Monitor said, avoid any engineering programs with "management" in the title. Degrees in management are worth very little on the global job market unless they come from toppity-top schools and are backed up by plenty of real-life experience. On the Polish market, they are essentially worthless.
DominicB   
24 Mar 2014
Travel / Best mode of transportation from Warsaw to Katowice? [7]

You can buy ticket on the station without any problem (or even enter the train without ticket, then you just pay 10 PLN more).

Not quite. If you enter the train without a ticket, you absolutely MUST report immediately to the conductor in the first, or sometimes last, car, or you will pay A LOT more as you will be fined if you don't.
DominicB   
24 Mar 2014
Travel / Suggestions for what i should do or see in Lodz? [16]

Lived near £ódź for many years. You're hearing right. It's run down, dirty and depressing, and brain drain has taken its toll as younger educated people have moved out in droves. One of the few places in Poland that has gotten worse over the last ten years, thanks to having the worst mayor in Poland for eight years. The ubiquitous antisemitic graffiti is a major downer.

That said, there are a few interesting places to check out. And, quite frankly, before things go real bad, I actually used to prefer £ódź to Warsaw. However, with the opening of two large shopping malls at either end of the main drag, the city center has lost a lot of its vitality, and a lot of my old favorite haunts no longer exist.
DominicB   
21 Mar 2014
UK, Ireland / London Strip Clubs? What's it like for women working there? [74]

Probably not the type of work you would want to do unless you are truly desperate, and even then, there are almost always better options. At best, it's difficult and degrading work for low wages. At worst, it can get very, very bad, indeed. Harassment goes with the turf, and assault, rape, and forced prostitution are not rare. Girls are often shortchanged on their wages to keep them poor and desperate. In any case, it's no road to riches.

The reason strip club owners hire foreign girls is because they are usually more desperate and easier to control, as they have few other opportunities waiting for them should they want to leave. And they can pay them less, of course. Or not pay them at all.
DominicB   
21 Mar 2014
Work / Salary and cost of living information - Krakow [257]

Ask for 15,000 PLN a month gross, and see where it goes. If it goes any lower than 10,000 PLN gross, it's probably not worth relocating, especially considering that your wife will not be able to contribute to the family income, and that you are expecting to save up money. Your time would be better spent looking for a job in a Western European or English speaking country.
DominicB   
21 Mar 2014
Work / Salary and cost of living information - Krakow [257]

That's such a general, relative and unspecific question that nobody is going to be able to answer it. Sorry, but you're going to have to tell us about yourself, and why you need to know. In detail and specifically. Otherwise, you'll just get a vague, general answer that probably will be useless in your case.

I'm going to assume that you are an IT engineer from India or Pakistan who's been offered a job in Poland. Here's a quick and dirty rule of thumb.It's not worth coming at all if you are making less than a minimum of 7500 PLN gross per month as a single person. For each additional family member, add 3000 PLN. Add another 1000 PLN for each year of professional experience you have, and another 5000 PLN if you have a skill that is highly in demand, like SAP or HBase.

On the results of the above calculation, you won't save up a substantial amount, but you'll have plenty to live in modest comfort and have enough to save up for a rainy day. If you're offered less than that, politely turn it down and keep looking, preferably in a Western European or English-speaking country where earnings and savings potential are far higher, and quality of life for an Indian or Pakistani is also much better.

There is little chance that you will get a substantial raise after you take the job in Poland. Furthermore, opportunities for advancement and self-improvement are very limited, there is little, if any chance, that your spouse will be able to find work, private education in English is not cheap, and Poland is not a viable back door to the EU or to the corporate structure. At best, you'll get a couple of years of professional experience to put on your CV, for what that's worth. Don't expect anything else, and you won't be disappointed.
DominicB   
21 Mar 2014
Life / Do people from different cultures/backgrounds have a good social life in Poland? [5]

Yes. It means being persistent and not giving up, continuing the conversation when it seems to be dying, introducing yourself and volunteering information about yourself, not being defensive or taking the defensive position in a conversation, breaking the ice, finding common ground and so forth. Continuing being friendly and open even when it seems not be reciprocated at first.

It takes some skill and experience, but if you're not willing to go the extra mile on you're own initiative, you'll end up ignored by the local population, and end up very lonely.

Nothing really specific to Poland per se, although Poles do have a smaller and tighter group of social contacts than, say, Americans, and fewer casual acquaintances that they spend time with. They also tend to entertain and meet more at home rather than out, and live a good portion of their social lives within their family circle, so the best sign that you have been "accepted" is to be invited to have dinner with the family, or with other friends.
DominicB   
21 Mar 2014
Life / Do people from different cultures/backgrounds have a good social life in Poland? [5]

Yes, if they know Polish, or can gather around them a circle of friends that speak their own language or English. That's a lot easier to do in one of the progressive big cities with large university populations, like Wrocław, Kraków or Warsaw, and very difficult to do out in the countryside.

For example, I'm an American pathologist who speaks Polish and works at the university in Wrocław. I have a very large circle of Polish friends, most of whom I interact with in Polish, and a select few that I interact with in English (and a couple in German, as well).

It all depends how much Polish you know, and where you live. While you might find that just about everyone wants to speak English with you, few are able to have more than a very basic conversation. To live in Poland and have lots of Polish friends without speaking Polish is difficult, and would take a good deal of ingenuity and hard work, but it's not totally impossible if you are persistent and resourceful. If you're shy or non-assertive, and don't take the first (and second, and third) steps, then you will meet few people.

Why are you asking these questions? It would be a lot easier to answer if you told us where you are from, what you do, if you plan to come to Poland, and where and why. Otherwise you'll just get general, and probably useless, answers.

Otherwise, you'd be pretty much cut off from Polish culture.
DominicB   
21 Mar 2014
Life / Is it common for Polish people to speak English in Poland? [122]

Rather not. Few people over 40 speak it at all, even among the well educated. Most recent high school and university grads know enough English to be able to have at least a very simple conversation, though often with some difficulty and visible discomfort. About 20 percent of current students speak English well enough to have more than a very basic conversation, though the proportion is rising with every graduating class. Many young academics have decent reading knowledge of reading technical or scientific literature, but would be unable to read a simple novel, and many of them are unable to speak except basic things in their technical field, and then only with difficulty.

My guess for proportion of 25-year-olds' English speaking ability for the general population:

Less than 5% Advanced
20% Intermediate
30% Basic
And the rest rudimentary or elementary at best.

I can count the number of Poles I've met who read English literature not related to school or work without taking off my shoes and socks. Poles have an extreme terror of reading English, and getting them to pick up an English book and read is harder than pulling teeth. Consequently, their English vocabulary is horribly stunted.

There are exceptions, of course, mainly in Academia and high-tech workplaces. Poles, especially academics and high-tech professionals are becoming keenly aware that they are crippled by not knowing English. Few of them are willing, however, to spend the time and do the work to acquire advanced knowledge. Most settle for a basic knowledge of the jargon in their specific field.
DominicB   
11 Mar 2014
Work / Job prospects for working in Poland - U.S. & Polish/EU Citizen [6]

The language skills could be of value to a company even without a college degree, perhaps?

Not at all. I agree with Jardinero on all points. A general business degree isn't worth much in Poland, even with English. It seems everyone, their mother and their dog has one here. Other majors to avoid: psychology, sociology, political science, international relations, anthropology, journalism, education, languages and literature, history, philosophy, theology/divinity, arts, film, photography, music, architecture, tourism and recreation, agriculture, law, criminal justice, marketing, administration, economics, and just about anything that falls under "humanities", "liberal arts" or "xxxxxx studies" and doesn't require lots of math.

Plum majors right now and for the foreseeable future are engineering, especially petroleum, geological, biomedical and IT/communications engineering, logistics, financial mathematics, financial engineering, actuarial mathematics, econometrics and other majors with lots of advanced applied math and quantitative analysis skills.

If you want a meaningful business degree, get an MBA or similar masters degree from a good business school about five years after you graduate from college with a good major and get some meaningful work experience.
DominicB   
11 Mar 2014
Work / Two job offers in Poland, which one should I take? [12]

How much would it cost for a night to go out and have some beers in a cheap club or bar where students goes?

A beer in a student bar costs about 5 to 7 PLN. Depends how much you drink, and how many drinks you buy. Can be a major expense.

And how much is a pack of cigarate?

12 to 15 PLN, depending on what you smoke. A one-pack a day habit will set you back 350 to 450 PLN a month, and is a major expense at the money you'll be earning.It would be a good idea to quit.

The thing I want to know is. would this money be enough for a single guy like me to have a life there?

As long as you stay single, and don't date, it adequate if all you want to do is "have fun" once a week. Definitely not the high-life, though.
DominicB   
11 Mar 2014
Life / Directory for Wroclaw cell numbers? [18]

I believe paper white pages were discontinued in 2010.

In Poland, telemarketing calls still reach my mobile and people's landlines, despite the fact none of us are in any phone book. Perhaps they random dial.

Twelve years now, and I have never received even a single telemarketing call on my mobile in Poland. But then, I have been very careful about giving it out, as I was advised to by the locals.

that Poles are expected to carry their pink ID card at all times, and carry their insurance and driving licence for immediate inspection if driving.

That has nothing to do with privacy. And carrying your license, registration and proof of insurance when your driving is required in the States, and I would suppose in most other countries, as well. In the States, you have to produce ID to buy alcohol, often regardless of your age. Some bars card everyone without exception, even if they know you very well and you are obviously well over twenty-one. Again, that has nothing to do with privacy.
DominicB   
11 Mar 2014
Work / Cost of Living, Average Salaries and Job sites in Poland [263]

And you base that on...?

PL now spends about the least % of its GDP on healthcare out of the EU

You answered your own question. Also, I'm a pathologist, and I live here in Poland, and have for twelve years, so I think I know the lay of the land for the medical profession here a lot better than you do.

and that will only increase with the ageing population

There's very little money to be made in poor old people, especially if it's financed by a poor and stingy state. And the worst is still to happen as the baby-boomer generation starts to retire, leaving the much smaller baby-bust generations to foot the bill for their eldercare. This is a big problem even in rich Western countries. In Poland, it's going to be truly awful.

so certainly this is one profession that does not need to stress about their prospects...

That's wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to start. The only bright star on the horizon for Polish health care workers is that they can always emigrate to Western countries, where the demand for their services is increasing.

quality of life/satisfaction - that I would say is really up to the individual to determine based on what their priorities are, especially if bringing up young children is involved

Poland scores far below the US on any objective indicator of life quality and satisfaction. You also seem to be conflating the US with New York City, and Poland with Europe, and romanticizing life in Poland. However, like Mexico, it's a good place to retire if you're single and living off of Western retirement funds, or if you can provide a unique service that is highly in demand (and someone is actually willing to pay for).

Having said that, though, I'll be returning to Chicago in two months because my Polish partner (an anesthesiologist) has had enough of Poland. Especially the poor wages and job prospects. The job lined up in Chicago pays ten times what the job in Poland did. Future savings potential is 25 times as much.
DominicB   
11 Mar 2014
Life / Directory for Wroclaw cell numbers? [18]

Little harsh wouldn't you say!

Not at all. Any such directory would be quickly be abused by telemarketers and other undesirable unsolicited callers. That a few desirable callers are frustrated is a small price to pay.
DominicB   
10 Mar 2014
Life / Directory for Wroclaw cell numbers? [18]

Surprising cultural difference

Not surprising at all. Poles very jealously guard their privacy, as you must have noticed by now. Be aware of that or you can seriously p!ss somebody off. Before you pass anyone's phone number or any other personal information to a third party, be sure to get their expressed permission first. That's the local custom.

The logic is that, if I want you to call me, I would have given you my number. If I didn't, then you can very safely assume that I don't want you to call me.

Are you saying that they will publish your private mobile phone number in a directory in the UK without your expressed opting-in permission? That wouldn't fly in Poland. Or in the States, for that matter.
DominicB   
10 Mar 2014
Life / Directory for Wroclaw cell numbers? [18]

My guess is that it would have to work strictly on an opt-in basis. No one would be able to list your number unless you specifically give them permission to do so. Poles jealously guard information like cell phone numbers, and are exceeding loath to give permission for their number to be listed online, so there wouldn't be much point in trying to compile such a phone book in the first place. It probably wouldn't fill a single A4 page. Furthermore, any company tempted to compile such a phone book would probably quickly be untempted by their attorney.

Bottom line, Wrocław Beauty: If the owner of the company has not personally given you his personal mobile phone number, personally give permission for someone else to do so specifically, he probably would not welcome a call from you.
DominicB   
10 Mar 2014
Work / Two job offers in Poland, which one should I take? [12]

The salary, by the way isn't great.

That goes for both jobs. The salaries are too low to justify moving to Poland. There are certainly better opportunities elsewhere, and possibly better opportunities in Poland. If you can't find one at the moment, take advantage of the time to beef up your qualifications, and keep on looking.
DominicB   
8 Mar 2014
Study / Opinion required on teaching standards of Polands technology universities [11]

Rather try to find something concerning only programs taught in English (however, I've no idea if it's possible to find something like this).

Exactly. I'm not sure if anything is available, either.

On TUL campus I can see quite often people with the university scarfs. But they are usually... foreigners :)

lol
DominicB   
8 Mar 2014
Study / Which courses should I study in Poland? (engineering, management, computers) [3]

I wouldn't recommend it. Polish universities are no better than Indian universities, and a degree from a Polish university does not open any more doors than a degree from an Indian one. The job market in Poland is highly competitive, wages are very low, prospects for lifetime earnings and lifetime savings are poor, and opportunities for self-advancement are limited or lacking. All in all, I can see no advantage of studying in Poland over studying at a good university in India.

If you don't want to study in India, then study at a good university in Western Europe or in an English-speaking country. Though more expensive in the short term, the quality and conditions of education are far higher than in Poland, and job prospects are much better.

See this thread from today for more details:

https://polishforums.com/study/poland-opinion-required-teaching-standards-70180/

Also, studying management is not a good choice. Much better to major in a STEM field (science, technology, engineering and math). Petroleum and geological engineering are excellent choices with stellar employment and earnings prospects, as are actuarial mathematics, financial mathematics and econometrics. Math means money.
DominicB   
8 Mar 2014
Work / What salary can I expect for a job in finance in Lodz? [18]

the reason these companies hire people from third world countries (if you consider france spain germany netherland canada .....) is the languages capabilities

Exceeding unlikely if you mean third world country such as Nigeria or India. By far the highest criterion is that they can pay very low wages, so low that the employees are "trapped", which reduces turn-over. As a matter of fact, anyone considering working for a BPO should always bear in mind that BPO is exclusively about reducing labor costs, and that that will always be the number one criterion in ANY interaction you will have with the company.

You can get up to 5000 PLN gross salary

Very, very poor wages. That's a measly $12,000 US net, or about minimum wage for burger flippers in the US. Not worth relocating to Poland for, certainly not for anyone from a first-world country, and not even for a recent grad from a third-world country. There are plenty of better opportunities elsewhere. Getting paid that low means that you are trapped: unable to save up enough to relocate to a better job elsewhere. I made more than that as a teaching assistant in graduate school in the States twenty-five years ago, teaching only two courses.

But why all these third-world workers claim (and there is an avalanche of them on this forum) they get hired for salaries which are completely unreal?

Those "unreal" salaries are quite low and not at all attractive to non-Poles. For example, 10,000 PLN gross is the equivalent of $40,000 a year in the States. You're not going to find anyone at that level of qualifications and experience that will get even out of bed for less than $100,000 in the States. And even native Poles at that level are highly tempted to move west, and a good many do. Hence the high turnover and shortage of native Poles willing to take these jobs. For the time being, it seems to make economic sense to hire third world workers and bring them to already existing BPO centers in Poland than to build BPO centers in even poorer, but often highly unstable third-world countries with ghastly infrastructure. BPOs in Poland seem to be in sort of a sweet spot at the moment.

There are several other factors at work:

BPO workers form third world countries are often desperate to take any job, even one in Poland. Even with its low wages and poorer living conditions, Poland is heaven compared to, say, Uganda, Nigeria or Pakistan.

BPO workers from third world countries see any job in Poland, no matter how bad or poorly paid, as a back door to a better future elsewhere in the EU. A lot of them seem unaware that Poland is quite poor compared to the Western European countries. Actually, a lot of posters on this board from Portugal, Spain and Malta seem to think that Poland is part of the "Rich North".

BPO workers are often not aware that there is little, if any, opportunity for advancement in these jobs, and they are cut off completely from the corporate ladder. And that there is very little opportunity to improve one's qualifications in Poland.

In short, Poland is a seemingly perfect short term "solution" for the desperate and hopelessly ignorant, and since there is not shortage of either of these on this planet, especially in third-world countries, BPOs are making hay while the sun shines.
DominicB   
8 Mar 2014
Work / Cost of Living, Average Salaries and Job sites in Poland [263]

She is a medical student with about 1 year left.

Opportunities and wages in the medical field are both downright abysmal in Poland. Any way you cut it, your combined future earnings and quality of life are going to be far higher in the States than in Poland. And while retiring on 6,000 PLN a month in Słupsk might be attractive to you, it won't be an attractive option for her, at least nowhere near as attractive as working as a physician in the States. Her liking for Słupsk, and Poland in general, will evaporate pretty quickly when the harsh reality of long hours and very, very low wages in a dead-end job sets in. All in all, I would say that trying to make a go of it in Poland as a couple is not a very good option.
DominicB   
8 Mar 2014
Study / Opinion required on teaching standards of Polands technology universities [11]

1) AGH UNIVERSITY OF SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY
KRAKOW,POLAND

AGH is a top school in Poland, probably the best engineering school in the country, and has a good reputation world-wide, at least in its specialty area, which is mining and metallurgy. £ódż and Poznań are second-tier schools in Poland, and don't have much recognition abroad.

A few caveats: If you're going to go to AGH, I would study mining and metallurgy, and get a masters in petroleum or geological engineering. The lifetime earning potential for those two fields is about double that for IT engineering, job opportunities are excellent, opportunities for advancement are superb, and job security is very high, even in times of recession. I don't know whether the programs taught in English are as good as those taught in Polish. Probably not, but it might be worth checking out.

I would expect IT at AGH to be be treated as the bastard little sister of mining and metallurgy. It may even be worse at AGH than at other engineering schools in Poland, such as Wrocław.

The Polish engineering students and grads I know are practically unanimous about two things: practical courses at Polish engineering schools are of very low quality and underfinanced, and there is very little partnering with the business community, which greatly reduces employment opportunities.

I would add two more things: compared to US universities, Polish universities care very little about their students, and there is precious little in the way of university community and spirit or campus life in Poland. No one is effusively proud of their school like they are in the US. I've never seen anybody in Poland wear a university T-shirt or sweatshirt, for example, and I deal with university students every day in a city with more than 100,000 students. Say what you want, but American-style university spirit and campus life are very motivating and comforting. This is particularly important for foreign students.

As a rule, English language programs at Polish universities are also bastard children. They generally have a poor reputation, though you have to check the particular program in question. Overall, these programs are far inferior to a good program at a good university in an English speaking country.

Going to a good engineering school in the States, for example, may be more expensive in the short term, but the quality of education is far superior, especially as far as practical courses and business partnerships are concerned. A degree from a top-notch school like Harvey Mudd or Rose-Hulman opens basically any door in the engineering world, and potential earnings for graduates from these schools are stellar. I wouldn't say the same for any school in Poland, even AGH.

As a matter of fact, I don't think that going to any engineering school in Poland is going to open any more doors than going to a better engineering school in India, which is probably the best option for you. I can't see any possible advantage of studying engineering in Poland over studying in India. It won't help you get into a good graduate program in the States any more than a getting a degree in India.