Travel / Is Poland's Wroclaw zoo worth visiting? [17]

Yes, Wroclaw zoo is fun for the kids. We've gone a few times ourselves. Though, in the summer. I don't know what will be out in the winter personally. Honestly, I didn't worry about a "children's itinerary" when I took my kids places. To each their own, but I just took them out and about and talked to them and showed them things. Had no issues. Good luck and have fun! You should tell us how you made out afterwards.

Genealogy / My dad's last name was Polak - Do I look in any way Polish? [57]


And yet you are still on here with your borderline Personality Disorder, cursing at other women (which btw, cursing a lot is a sign of lower intelligence and lack of ability to formulate a clear cohesive retort) and attacking the same posters and blinking your pretty overlined eyes at the boys. Tell me, how many are you hoping to PM you on here to set up some sort of scam to get $ from them? :D Actually, I really don't care. You yourself said you are a troll... Peace out, sista!

Genealogy / My dad's last name was Polak - Do I look in any way Polish? [57]

GabiDaHun, what you said, I just don't feel like wasting my time since no matter what any woman says, she is going to be accused of being "jealous" whereas she is thanking nonstop the men who she feels are now "fawning" over her. Which is funny, really. Just look at the way this thread has already developed, it's black and white really.

Genealogy / My dad's last name was Polak - Do I look in any way Polish? [57]


Hahahahaha! There's not even any point in me responding, is there? Have a blessed day.

Genealogy / My dad's last name was Polak - Do I look in any way Polish? [57]

No, you don't look Polish. And no, Polak is not a Polish last name. It means Polish man in Polish. Pollack is a fish. I'm not sure why you posted that pic here, nor why you are asking these questions. And, no I'm not jealous.

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]


No, you didn't "point out". Pointing out something means that you were stating an already well known and undisputed fact. What you were expressing above were nothing more than pseudofacts. My family is all Polish, I've traced it back several generations. I, myself, was born in Poland. None of us were Russians, etc. The USSR oppressing Poland was as nothing more than an occupation, not brethren representing and working together.

You can't say that people who left Poland in the 1800-1900's were the only true Poles and that they all left or were killed. Because that's not how it worked and there are countless facts, actual documented real undesputed facts, proving the opposite of your pseudofact strewn hatred filled theory.


So, what you are saying in your pseudofact strewed theory is that all modern day Poles are Russian Jews who are Communists. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Yeah, I don't think so. I'm just going to ignore stupid now.

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

Wow, MarcinD, reading your replies, I have to say you were very articulate and hit the nail on the head, so to speak. I agree wholeheartedly, I just don't like to say it because I get labeled Anti-American. Or like my American husband likes to call me, a Commie. But then, he also thinks I'm one because I buy organic food, shop local businesses and didn't know who George Jones was until the Grammys the other day which he put on (seriously, why does a man watch that sort of thing? I thought it was for women who like to gossip?). I love America. I do. Sometimes, I think I love America more than other Americans because I want to actually pay attention to politicians and make sure I vote in someone who will screw the country over the least and I actually pay attention to American history, etc. But, it isn't what my parents thought it would be, for sure.

Genealogy / Help finding info about Naliborski [23]

I think the main thing, first, for the OP is to trace back his own family before grasping at possibilities. Like I said, contact the towns in the US where for SURE his family lived, the names he knows for SURE are related to him, call the churches and cemeteries and court houses and trace back from there. Maybe he was once a Nalborski. Maybe he's not Polish. Maybe he is. Won't know without doing it the right way.

Genealogy / Help finding info about Naliborski [23]

Between the time of buying a ticket and putting a name on the ship's manifest and getting to Ellis Island, it happened. Ppl would walk up, say their name and because immigrants didn't speak English in order to spell it using the English alphabet, the names were misspelled. Or were encouraged to go with an already misspelled version on the manifest. Or Americanize it.

I found some interesting links explaining it

thehistoricpresent.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/truth-v-myth-my-familys-name-was-changed-at-ellis-island

sydaby.eget.net/swe/journey.htm

Genealogy / Help finding info about Naliborski [23]

Yes they were. Ppl would walk up, say their name and because immigrants didn't speak English in order to spell it using the English alphabet, the names were misspelled. You're talking hundreds of people coming through at a time 24/7. They did mispell names. Also, many poor immigrants didn't know how to write, just like many poor Americans and throughout the world at that time.

Genealogy / Help finding info about Naliborski [23]

No, most Polish don't misspell their own names.

However, Ellis Island and Americans being how they were to foreigners who weren't English, etc., would have butchered the names. I would suggest you contact the churches and cemetaries of the towns and counties you mentioned above which are in the US and get info using what you have. It would be where I would start from here. And I would trace the line that way.

Genealogy / Help finding info about Naliborski [23]


Most people do not have a coat of arms. Coat of arms are reserved for nobility, of which, just like today's mega wealthy few and billions of modern day peasantry, of which you and I are a part of, there were few and the peasants back then were the majority.

The only names in Polish coat of arms that start with an "N" are Nalecz and Nieczuja, neither of which your last name sounds like. Also, your last name having a coat of arms doesn't mean you are related to the nobility, it's a very complicated explanation. But simply, just like all "Johnson" family in a country are not related.


No, Prussia was it's one culture and tribe.

moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/naliborski.html - Does not list your last name.

I found this but your last name doesn't seem very common.

rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wispags/history/ethnic-polish.html. And this. But whether that person is related to you, idk. You need to trace back your family tree, not your last name. Assemble the names of all family members as far back as you can get first, then start from there. Otherwise, you really won't get started at all and will just be grasping for straws, which frankly, might not be the straws you were even meant to find.

I would contact a professional genealogist.

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

And what reason would that be?

USA, Canada / Polonia who needs help with Polish Documentary [27]

Yeah, I don't agree with delphaindomine in most things, right delph? ;) But I agree with him on this. Seriously, nothing better to do with your life, sounds like you actually want to join the hooligans. Or, you really are a troll.

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

And there are a ton more that are missing off that list. :)

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]

I assume you are also specifically meaning a particular generation. I highly highly recommend reading the book by Mieczyslaw Biskupski, "Hollywood's War with Poland, 1939-1945". It will clue you in just how bombarded a couple of generations were by Hollywood's racist attitude towards Poland and the reasons why. It all comes down to Politics.

History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]


Yes. Yes, it is. I know I like it. (Stupid American husband)

History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]


Every country complains about their post office, tax office, etc. But, like I said, it seems every single thread turns to bashing, not discussions, when I check the latest threads.

History / A little reminder for those Brits that ***** about Poles [143]


Everytime I come on here, I check the latest threads and, sadly, I agree with nunczka.

Law / Maintenance & Rights: Polish mother & child in Poland, Irish father in the UK [57]


Wow, I really cannot believe that you feel that way. And, if your girlfriend knows you feel that way, she's a real winner too. Way to "man up". Btw, good luck skipping the country bc most countries have extradiction laws that will take your pay and send it to the CHILD anyway.

Also, child support and "access" as you call it, are completely seperate. Clothing, books, etc., if that's your child and you want a relationship with them, are and should be imo, beyond child support. Poland's laws favor the mother, as it rightly should. Because that's more likely to favor the child. And if you didn't sign a birth certificate, no you don't get to choose the name, where the child lives, etc. Plus, if you feel that way that you just said above, you don't sound like a committed loving father to have the right to have say in that sort of thing anyway.

DNA testing should be done first, of course. But other than that, if you are the father, get a lawyer but as a woman, I have no sympathy. Sex every time can lead to pregnancy. They teach you that in middle school. And children deserve child support.

Marriage is temporary but parenting a child bonds two people together. Suck it up and don't sleep with anyone unless you are prepared to be a man and care for the baby for the rest of your life.

USA, Canada / Polonia who needs help with Polish Documentary [27]


I agree wholeheartedly. My spider sense is telling me someone has a different agenda other than their heart loving Poland. Esp since he said he "isa Polonia". Nobody says that.

Love / Do Irish / British guys like Polish girls? [138]


Not nitpicking here (OK, a little) but dumb means someone who can't hear, not someone who is stupid. It is taken as offensive by some to use that word like that.

I've met plenty of Irishmen (as in, accent and all, property in Ireland, coming to US to visit family) and imo they are very respectful to Poles bc we share a similar type of history. At least, that's the words they would use when I would say I was a Pole. Idk what your chances are of landing an Irishman, nobody can tell you. Enjoy your trip. Who knows who you are destined for.

Love / My Polish wife got married to me but she's still not in love? [34]

I need to know, what country do you and your Polish flower live in?

Love / What are Polish Women like? Just started to date one. [256]


I have. Yes, there are some differences. Polish women are more about health and outdoors and exercise. Idk how English women are about cleaning or family relationships. But Polish grammar in regards to politeness is very different than English. Also, Polish women don't drink as much as English women. And Catholicism is ingrained in our many holidays...

Study / Shocking! Test standards in Polish schools. [165]

oecd.org/dataoecd/54/12/46643496.pdf

fwiw, PISA scores for 2009.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


You can have both US and Polish passport. -.-

Btw, my kids do speak Polish, my point was that they don't have to in order to identify themselves as Polish Americans. Polish Americans bc their father is an American. And bc they have dual citizenship.

In the end, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, it's what someone's heart tells them they are.

USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]


THIS! THIS THIS THIS!

Seriously, I could teach my children not one lick of Polish and, guess what, their Polish passports (born in the US) say they are Polish. So does their pride. And the shape of their eyes. And how they stop and sing along to the Koledy I play at Christmas time.

I suggest the OP tell his wife that she better make it a point to stay alive forever so that she can teach her great grandchildren Polish. Because otherwise, they won't be by her definition. And when your own family denies your heritage on something so petty, your family will forget you when you pass away. Like you were nobody.

It's what your heart says. My children are Polish American. End of story. And it doesn't matter what anyone else says, it's what their hearts tell them.

Love / Why do Polish girls think they are fat all the time? [42]


Basically...


Only until they come to the US, then they stop saying that.

USA, Canada / American man with a Polish wife. Will children be dual citizens? [20]


Yeah, it's not like they are born and poof, here is their citizenship paperwork for being Polish citizen. Now, the US citizenship, the day they are born, their birth certificate stating they were born in the USA is automatic proof of their citizenship. So, you have to show proof of their Polish citizenship. Again, contact the consulate for clarification. There IS paperwork and fees involved. Good luck! And glad you love Poland, my husband does as well and we hope to one day retire there...

USA, Canada / American man with a Polish wife. Will children be dual citizens? [20]

US Citizenship is based on where you are born, not the background of your parents. So if they are born in the US, they become US citizens automatically at birth. That I don't believe affects your wife's citizenship one way or another. What I mean about affecting her citizenship was regarding her US Citizenship. In other words, her having American kids I don't believe gives her American citizenship.

Polish citizenship is based on blood. In other words, wherever they are born, they are automatically Polish citizens if she is one. However, they will still have to apply for the paperwork for it from the Polish Consulate. If their children later want it, they also can apply for Polish citizenship, and so on down the line.

I recommend you discuss this further with a lawyer familiar with these laws.

Btw, her Polish citizenship, irregardless of whether you get married to her or father her children, does not automatically give you Polish citizenship. You would have to apply for it the same way a person from another country would have to apply for US citizenship.

We've gone through this in my house, as I was born in Poland (although we left Poland when I was young) and thus have dual citizenship. My American husband is only an American. My children are dual citizens technically, once our paperwork is approved.

Good luck!