modafinil
31 Jan 2012
Law / If you lose your job in Poland is it easy to claim welfare? [36]
Not one of our brightest, are you.
I'm from the British Isles
Not one of our brightest, are you.
modafinil
29 Jan 2012
Study / Shocking! Test standards in Polish schools. [165]
Are you going to point out what is wrong with what you quoted because I can't see any error. Providing she has more than one kid, that is.
If you are going to bang on about literacy standards then i suggest you look at your own.
Are you going to point out what is wrong with what you quoted because I can't see any error. Providing she has more than one kid, that is.
modafinil
28 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
The ones who permanently settled are of course British. Not a case of owing as such, as they contributed, heartily. I wouldn't see a problem even if the fighters that defended Britain that didn't settle here received some pensionable benefits in honour.
The ones who permanently settled are of course British. Not a case of owing as such, as they contributed, heartily. I wouldn't see a problem even if the fighters that defended Britain that didn't settle here received some pensionable benefits in honour.
modafinil
28 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
Poland was never part of the British Empire or commonwealth. Their children may become British if they are born here but they are well known for coming here and leaving their children behind in Poland, there's more for the pound in child benefits that way. Also they come here to have a child (or an abortion) on the house, and then go back to Poland.
Only peeps complaining are uneducated ones with a rudimentary skill set.
so the Polish that immigrated to Britain who are working and making a living there are they now considered British?
Poland was never part of the British Empire or commonwealth. Their children may become British if they are born here but they are well known for coming here and leaving their children behind in Poland, there's more for the pound in child benefits that way. Also they come here to have a child (or an abortion) on the house, and then go back to Poland.
Only peeps complaining are uneducated ones with a rudimentary skill set.
modafinil
27 Jan 2012
Love / Why do Polish girls and women look at me in a flirty way? [44]
Well, they can tell by the way you use your walk, you're a woman's man with no time to talk.
Well, they can tell by the way you use your walk, you're a woman's man with no time to talk.
modafinil
27 Jan 2012
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
You really have the most laughable reasoning skills. How does it follow that negative stereotypes are OK. Oh that's right you don't get it so, oh mighty arbiter of good taste, it is negative. I've already said people here are not so dumb that they can't separate jokes from reality.
Racial profiling is abhorrent to me. Individual jokes I take on merit. For example:
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A survey asked, Are there too many Poles in the UK?
40% said 'yes'
60% said 'Nie'
"
This is funny to me and I'd bet by Polish in the UK. I would gladly bet money that it is repeated by Poles here in the UK also. If you can't see the humour in the joke. It is playing on something ludicrous and patently not true - you get it straight away or not at all.. Exchanging jokes is close to mandatory amongst men in conversation. The joke that has been made about the Polish Firing Squad for example is funny to me. The nationality isn't important and is an 'insert nation here' joke. That one is actually funniest when you replace Polish with UN as it metaphorically parallels what the UN are like. Jewish rabbi jokes - funny. I havn't read D Adams but I'm sure I'd laugh and some of the posts, most of them. I know plenty of Irish but am able to separate fictional jokes from the reality thery're all successful.
In the UK anyone will admit 2nd generation do better, much better. Children of cleaners can become Doctors. I know first hand of a doctor that came to work at a hospital I worked in who 'boasted' of this. The black ghettos of America - still there and they seem to be getting worse. Still at least you don't make jokes about them, never mind the reality.
At the start of Obama's presidency he was depicted as a dead monkey in American papers wasn't he. Were you up in arms? Did the Polish community write to their senators? Hypocrites. In England only the crudest would make that joke and privately at that amongst racists it would never become currency. It would certainly never reach print.
I havn't avoided it. I thought it is so obvious and so did everyone in the audience what was to be gotten. Mexicans and Poles are known for being economic migrants, low paid low skilled jobs. How many times...This is like talking to RainMan. I'm pitying you now.
There are exceptions, Many from West europe go to Spain or Austrailia to live the life of Reilly. Immigrants from Nigeria come here now with Master's degree in hand. The Brits in Poland seem to be doing well. Some also muck-in with charity work I hear on this site.
I've already said these are not jokes. They are racist commentaries.Not social/observational ones And if acceptable then the readers and the nation are racist. Still havn't shown that these were created by the English.
Do you find looking backwards into the past more important than the present? Is it constructive, or merely whinging.
Russian pop. here is small, I havn't heard them. I've said before show me some. Don't forget the youtube ones of the English that you have seen. I'm interested.
I deny your foolish lie about an English conspiracy. Our mockery is equal opportunity - The Paddys, the Jocks, the Frogs...Get over yourself.
You are wrong. News is now sourced from many locations across the net.Newspaper corps are losing sway. Only the simplest and elderly. still uses one newsfeed like in the days gone by that you keep obsessing over. Couldn't infer that from what you wrote.
What about all those Irish jokes that Douglas Murray of the Telegraph newspaper had on his blog after he asked people in Britain if they knew of any Irishman jokes? Were they funny? Is the stereotype that Irish people have inferior intelligence OK with you?
You really have the most laughable reasoning skills. How does it follow that negative stereotypes are OK. Oh that's right you don't get it so, oh mighty arbiter of good taste, it is negative. I've already said people here are not so dumb that they can't separate jokes from reality.
Racial profiling is abhorrent to me. Individual jokes I take on merit. For example:
"
A survey asked, Are there too many Poles in the UK?
40% said 'yes'
60% said 'Nie'
"
This is funny to me and I'd bet by Polish in the UK. I would gladly bet money that it is repeated by Poles here in the UK also. If you can't see the humour in the joke. It is playing on something ludicrous and patently not true - you get it straight away or not at all.. Exchanging jokes is close to mandatory amongst men in conversation. The joke that has been made about the Polish Firing Squad for example is funny to me. The nationality isn't important and is an 'insert nation here' joke. That one is actually funniest when you replace Polish with UN as it metaphorically parallels what the UN are like. Jewish rabbi jokes - funny. I havn't read D Adams but I'm sure I'd laugh and some of the posts, most of them. I know plenty of Irish but am able to separate fictional jokes from the reality thery're all successful.
In the UK anyone will admit 2nd generation do better, much better. Children of cleaners can become Doctors. I know first hand of a doctor that came to work at a hospital I worked in who 'boasted' of this. The black ghettos of America - still there and they seem to be getting worse. Still at least you don't make jokes about them, never mind the reality.
At the start of Obama's presidency he was depicted as a dead monkey in American papers wasn't he. Were you up in arms? Did the Polish community write to their senators? Hypocrites. In England only the crudest would make that joke and privately at that amongst racists it would never become currency. It would certainly never reach print.
Don't avoid my question. If they got the joke as you say, what did they get? What was the punchline of that joke comparing Mexicans and Polish people??
I havn't avoided it. I thought it is so obvious and so did everyone in the audience what was to be gotten. Mexicans and Poles are known for being economic migrants, low paid low skilled jobs. How many times...This is like talking to RainMan. I'm pitying you now.
So tell me, what groups of people have gone to another country in large numbers and started out in the middle class or upper class and did not work their way up from the bottom over the generations??
There are exceptions, Many from West europe go to Spain or Austrailia to live the life of Reilly. Immigrants from Nigeria come here now with Master's degree in hand. The Brits in Poland seem to be doing well. Some also muck-in with charity work I hear on this site.
No the newspapers had writers who made Irish jokes about the Irish people as in "Irish and Dogs need not apply" and talk of "Irish white monkeys". They also had joke cartoons of Irish people.
I've already said these are not jokes. They are racist commentaries.Not social/observational ones And if acceptable then the readers and the nation are racist. Still havn't shown that these were created by the English.
Do you find looking backwards into the past more important than the present? Is it constructive, or merely whinging.
Lately in the US there have been jokes about Russian stupidity. Do you think those are funny?
Are jokes about stupid Russians funny to you?
Are jokes about stupid Russians funny to you?
Russian pop. here is small, I havn't heard them. I've said before show me some. Don't forget the youtube ones of the English that you have seen. I'm interested.
So you deny that there were any Irish joke slurs or Irish joke cartoons of Irish in old American newspapers??
I deny your foolish lie about an English conspiracy. Our mockery is equal opportunity - The Paddys, the Jocks, the Frogs...Get over yourself.
Hardcopy newspaper circulations are contracting, but their blog presence on the internet is growing substantially. New news services on the internet have also been expanding. That's what I also meant, but I guess that went over your head
You are wrong. News is now sourced from many locations across the net.Newspaper corps are losing sway. Only the simplest and elderly. still uses one newsfeed like in the days gone by that you keep obsessing over. Couldn't infer that from what you wrote.
modafinil
27 Jan 2012
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
Silly simile. Jokes on nationality are based on sterotypes. Is that beyond your ken?
Hypocrite? You brought up the claim that Mexicans are not capable of rising above. No where was that inferrable by the comedian or me. Voices in your head. If you don't know what the word hypocrite means, it is better to stay silent and be thought a fool instead speaking up and proving it, as one of your formwe presidents quipped.
Yep. I find satire delightful, hilarious in fact especially in light of what the PolAms write on PF.
Yep.
You do not appear to understand the meaning of racism. The joke is racialist. Your use of the English language is dumbed-down perhaps from too much media watching. Over 90% of Polish are in low-skilled employment. Far from high society. There is a joke about what is the closest a Pole has been to high society. I'll spare you the punchline.
The joke. That's why people go to see comedians. Duh!
Britain is not a nation.
Yes so you shouldn't take it so personally dear boy. The cornershop joke is a "paki joke".But you are too wrapped up in yourself to notice. If you are going to quote read it first, save looking dumb.
You're blind. Not any kind. I am not going to repeat the points on satirical comedy if you are too ignorant to understand what that means after I furnished you with examples. You just gonna have to live with your dulled comprehension. I won't explain satire again.
Post them, and I'll let you know.
I said it wasn't the central theme of that joke. Loads of jokes about the flow there is a million a year turnover! I suppose the point I made on Irish jokes starting with high immigration was too subtle for you.
Proof indeed that you do not know the difference between a joke and racist commentary. Were the media sending out these 'jokes' by morse code? After that the main media newspapers were controlled by William R Hearst - a Scottish American who publicly voice his dislike of the British. Pulitzer was the main rival, he wasn't English either far closer to Poland than England. Your knowledge, especially given your name here, makes me laugh all the harder and not just because the irony of it is lost on you - your ignorance of your specialist subject makes you a fool.
Newspapers arn't expanding. There contracting. None of the jokes were regarding intelligence. This is your own obsession.
I don't know if all the empty space was a metaphor for you state of mind, it did make it cumbersome to quote. Try wasting less space next time.
@Irlandczyk. Shock Horror! Polish people, it seems, have a sense of humour too!
You're obsessed with stereotypes like some kind of child.
Silly simile. Jokes on nationality are based on sterotypes. Is that beyond your ken?
My God what a hypocrite you are. YOU are accusing ME of a racist view on Mexicans when YOU were the one who brought up a joke about racism concerning Mexicans and took delight in it?????? Are you out of your mind? Talk about spurious logic.
Hypocrite? You brought up the claim that Mexicans are not capable of rising above. No where was that inferrable by the comedian or me. Voices in your head. If you don't know what the word hypocrite means, it is better to stay silent and be thought a fool instead speaking up and proving it, as one of your formwe presidents quipped.
Go back to your post # 463 which contains your joke which is specifically about RACISM in a country and then compares racism against Mexicans and Polish people which you take delight in.
Yep. I find satire delightful, hilarious in fact especially in light of what the PolAms write on PF.
YOU then say in your post #466 the joke is centered on the British people seeing Polish people having a low standing in Britiain and NOT because of the large number of Poles coming into Britain which is parallel to the large number of Mexicans coming into the US.
Yep.
Racism and prejudice against a given group of people is generally based on the prejudiced notion that those people are in the "lower" part of society.
So you as a Brit are proud of the fact that the British have a racist view towards Polish people?
So you as a Brit are proud of the fact that the British have a racist view towards Polish people?
You do not appear to understand the meaning of racism. The joke is racialist. Your use of the English language is dumbed-down perhaps from too much media watching. Over 90% of Polish are in low-skilled employment. Far from high society. There is a joke about what is the closest a Pole has been to high society. I'll spare you the punchline.
So what did the British get?
The joke. That's why people go to see comedians. Duh!
You really aren't doing the nation of Britain a service by saying these things about Britain LOL
Britain is not a nation.
Yes I see you like dabbling in racism.
What about those famous "Paki jokes" you Brits have?? You Brits seem to like to knock just about everyone LOL
What about those famous "Paki jokes" you Brits have?? You Brits seem to like to knock just about everyone LOL
Yes so you shouldn't take it so personally dear boy. The cornershop joke is a "paki joke".But you are too wrapped up in yourself to notice. If you are going to quote read it first, save looking dumb.
I see you take pleasure in any kind of joke or remark that degrades people.
You're blind. Not any kind. I am not going to repeat the points on satirical comedy if you are too ignorant to understand what that means after I furnished you with examples. You just gonna have to live with your dulled comprehension. I won't explain satire again.
You seem to take enjoyment at ethnic slurs about other people, so you probably like those Brits on youtube making ethnic slurs.
Post them, and I'll let you know.
I thought you told me before the British didn't make jokes about the flow of Polish people coming into Britain?
I said it wasn't the central theme of that joke. Loads of jokes about the flow there is a million a year turnover! I suppose the point I made on Irish jokes starting with high immigration was too subtle for you.
In the US, for decades in the 1800's and 1900's there were many jokes about Irish having inferior intelligence as in "Irish and dogs need not apply" and "Irish are like white monkeys". Guess who pushed those bigoted jokes? You guessed it. LOL The English in America who controlled the media at the time.
Proof indeed that you do not know the difference between a joke and racist commentary. Were the media sending out these 'jokes' by morse code? After that the main media newspapers were controlled by William R Hearst - a Scottish American who publicly voice his dislike of the British. Pulitzer was the main rival, he wasn't English either far closer to Poland than England. Your knowledge, especially given your name here, makes me laugh all the harder and not just because the irony of it is lost on you - your ignorance of your specialist subject makes you a fool.
Its similar to how more of the diverse/expanding American media today (like newspapers) is highlighting how old Hollywood/TV media 1960's-1970's inferior intelligence jokes about Polish people is bigotry.
Newspapers arn't expanding. There contracting. None of the jokes were regarding intelligence. This is your own obsession.
I don't know if all the empty space was a metaphor for you state of mind, it did make it cumbersome to quote. Try wasting less space next time.
@Irlandczyk. Shock Horror! Polish people, it seems, have a sense of humour too!
modafinil
26 Jan 2012
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
I see the stereotype of Americans not understanding irony is true in this particular. Your logic is spurious. It is not about where the capability can take them. You have shown your own racist view on Mexicans with your statement. It's about the situation now.
The joke was made by an American, yet the British audience 'got it'. How British hear Americans talk of Mexicans is not dissimilar to how Polish here are spoken of. There is a thread on PF about Alabama and its immigration issues. Started by a Polish immigrant to American, ironically Many of the posts you can swap out the word Mexican for Polish and would not have a problem seeing that as a Conversation happening in England.
Below are a few British jokes I have heard that I consider satirical with the first one having a dash of irony.
"
I went down to the local corner-shop earlier.
"Get back to your own country," I shouted. 'Coming here, expecting special treatment.'
'Calm down sir,' he replied.
'I won't,' I plied. 'My mate Mohammed lost his job because of you... Polish prick.'
"
Simple word-play with racism and regarding the flow of Poles to the UK:
"
I was with the missus in Tesco and saw polish remover.
Couldn't help thinking, "Finally, a solution for those bastards next door."
"
There is a tv ad for cleaning products named Mr Muscle, with the tag 'Loves the jobs you hate'.
Simple satire:
"
Mr Muscle... loves the jobs you hate...
He's Polish then.
"
There are coarser ones on par with what used to be called Irish jokes, or 'Insert nation here' jokes where the nationality of the 'victim' had no relevance. You may have already heard them.
As for Irish jokes, from what I remember of the school playground they were the equivalent of American Polish jokes, where customs had noting to add except to enforce the idea that Irish were thick when they were the fastest rising immigrant group to England. They still are the largest immigrant population but are less noticeable due to accent, colour etc. I went to Catholic schools I'd guess 80-90% Irish.Though British by birth Poles and Asians were overrepresented in the top sets with Jamaicans invariably in the bottom sets. Yet I have never heard Jamaican jokes about their intelligence as a nation. Possibly jokes aren't allowed to be too close to reality...unless it's satire.
I see the stereotype of Americans not understanding irony is true in this particular. Your logic is spurious. It is not about where the capability can take them. You have shown your own racist view on Mexicans with your statement. It's about the situation now.
The joke was made by an American, yet the British audience 'got it'. How British hear Americans talk of Mexicans is not dissimilar to how Polish here are spoken of. There is a thread on PF about Alabama and its immigration issues. Started by a Polish immigrant to American, ironically Many of the posts you can swap out the word Mexican for Polish and would not have a problem seeing that as a Conversation happening in England.
Below are a few British jokes I have heard that I consider satirical with the first one having a dash of irony.
"
I went down to the local corner-shop earlier.
"Get back to your own country," I shouted. 'Coming here, expecting special treatment.'
'Calm down sir,' he replied.
'I won't,' I plied. 'My mate Mohammed lost his job because of you... Polish prick.'
"
Simple word-play with racism and regarding the flow of Poles to the UK:
"
I was with the missus in Tesco and saw polish remover.
Couldn't help thinking, "Finally, a solution for those bastards next door."
"
There is a tv ad for cleaning products named Mr Muscle, with the tag 'Loves the jobs you hate'.
Simple satire:
"
Mr Muscle... loves the jobs you hate...
He's Polish then.
"
There are coarser ones on par with what used to be called Irish jokes, or 'Insert nation here' jokes where the nationality of the 'victim' had no relevance. You may have already heard them.
As for Irish jokes, from what I remember of the school playground they were the equivalent of American Polish jokes, where customs had noting to add except to enforce the idea that Irish were thick when they were the fastest rising immigrant group to England. They still are the largest immigrant population but are less noticeable due to accent, colour etc. I went to Catholic schools I'd guess 80-90% Irish.Though British by birth Poles and Asians were overrepresented in the top sets with Jamaicans invariably in the bottom sets. Yet I have never heard Jamaican jokes about their intelligence as a nation. Possibly jokes aren't allowed to be too close to reality...unless it's satire.
modafinil
25 Jan 2012
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
The joke wasn't centered on their number, though relevant, more their standing - low skilled economic migrants trying their luck. I live in Ealing with the highest concentration of Poles in the UK, though if I see a Pole on my street they're more likely to be here to service someone's house then coming home.
Nope, I just double checked the DVD, it was Britain. So you are somewhat inventive. Possibly, it translates just as well to an Irish audience. I'm not sure of the stereotype the Irish have of Poles.
The joke wasn't centered on their number, though relevant, more their standing - low skilled economic migrants trying their luck. I live in Ealing with the highest concentration of Poles in the UK, though if I see a Pole on my street they're more likely to be here to service someone's house then coming home.
Nope, I just double checked the DVD, it was Britain. So you are somewhat inventive. Possibly, it translates just as well to an Irish audience. I'm not sure of the stereotype the Irish have of Poles.
modafinil
25 Jan 2012
Genealogy / Writing to the council (tracing for father's step sister) [14]
If there is a fee, and it has been paid, I'd use the same phrase where there is an obligation.
"Thanking you in advance.."
If there is a fee, and it has been paid, I'd use the same phrase where there is an obligation.
modafinil
23 Jan 2012
Life / Your favorite Chopin piece / Chopin Competition in Poland [23]
Only problem with this one is that it is so well known that it makes it easier for the most casual listener to spot bum notes.
youtu.be/Xj7GriyF8cM
Only problem with this one is that it is so well known that it makes it easier for the most casual listener to spot bum notes.
youtu.be/Xj7GriyF8cM
modafinil
23 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Any Polish people and food in Boston, MA? [16]
At the bottom of PF pages it has the time in Poland.
At the bottom of PF pages it has the time in Poland.
modafinil
23 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
I'm not sure anyone here would be foolhardy enough to deny your ancestry and deny your right to having pride in being from Polish stock. From what I know of Americans it is considered dull to simply say you are American without saying your ancestors emigrated from.
America only came to Europe after Pearl Harbour was bombed. Really, the US could hardly wait to join in.
if your going to stab me in the back then I will not claim my ancestry as Polish, why should I?? let it all die in euope and dont call us when you need help next time
I'm not sure anyone here would be foolhardy enough to deny your ancestry and deny your right to having pride in being from Polish stock. From what I know of Americans it is considered dull to simply say you are American without saying your ancestors emigrated from.
America only came to Europe after Pearl Harbour was bombed. Really, the US could hardly wait to join in.
modafinil
22 Jan 2012
History / Friedrich Nietzsche - Polish or German ? [73]
That's the problem with becoming a Superman. Once you find yourself surrounded by apes, one may just as well whisper into the ears of horses.
intellectual onanism
That's the problem with becoming a Superman. Once you find yourself surrounded by apes, one may just as well whisper into the ears of horses.
modafinil
21 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
I've always though Native Americans should refuse to acknowledge the border exists.
I don't see why.For the individual though, I'm sure it must be thrilling to find there history twined with other cultures.
That sound's like Marxism. But anyway,Polish Americans, the way they develop, is not the correct course of what being Polish is, they are blossoming differently. To use the British commonwealth in relation to being English; It was only when Brits abroad returned with new cultural elements did other ways of life synthesise into Englishness.
What about those that did run from their homeland during the wars? It happened a lot more than you might know. Are they no longer Native Americans because they live a few miles across the border?
I've always though Native Americans should refuse to acknowledge the border exists.
People readily accept that there are genetic ties between certain groups like Native Americans or African Americans or Latin Americans but when it comes to Poland, the idea is rejected.
I don't see why.For the individual though, I'm sure it must be thrilling to find there history twined with other cultures.
cooperative anarchy
That sound's like Marxism. But anyway,Polish Americans, the way they develop, is not the correct course of what being Polish is, they are blossoming differently. To use the British commonwealth in relation to being English; It was only when Brits abroad returned with new cultural elements did other ways of life synthesise into Englishness.
modafinil
21 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
Well if you didn't drive them to near extinction and actively do all you could to destroy their culture and WOL to make way for your swimming pools, or whatever, they may still speak fluently. However they didn't run from their homeland. America is theirs, NOT just the reservations. One can define oneselve in one's own country.Outside you can only distort and contaminate.
Des: One should note that the starter of this thread was convinced by Plastic Pole's answer that yes it is indeed possible to be Polish without speaking Polish:
Diluted though, like a liquor served in Moe's bar.
If it's possible for a woman to be Native American whether she speaks a Native language or not and whether she lives on an Indian Reservation or not, then it has to be possible for someone to be Polish or to have Polish ancestry regardless of what they speak or where they live.
Well if you didn't drive them to near extinction and actively do all you could to destroy their culture and WOL to make way for your swimming pools, or whatever, they may still speak fluently. However they didn't run from their homeland. America is theirs, NOT just the reservations. One can define oneselve in one's own country.Outside you can only distort and contaminate.
Des: One should note that the starter of this thread was convinced by Plastic Pole's answer that yes it is indeed possible to be Polish without speaking Polish:
Diluted though, like a liquor served in Moe's bar.
modafinil
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
Or wait 'till 2014. When the vote for independence comes.
Can anyone imagine someone calling themselves English and not speaking English?? That's how silly I see someone who would call themselves Polish and not speak its native language.
(actually - one reason why I'll take Polish citizenship is to get away from having to write "British" on forms ;))
Or wait 'till 2014. When the vote for independence comes.
Can anyone imagine someone calling themselves English and not speaking English?? That's how silly I see someone who would call themselves Polish and not speak its native language.
modafinil
20 Jan 2012
Love / Unmarried couples in Poland = pathology [310]
In those countries where having a daughter is seen as a burden and no social security outside the family it's probably saved a few from destitution and infantcide. The blind eye is out of compassion, I think.
In those countries where having a daughter is seen as a burden and no social security outside the family it's probably saved a few from destitution and infantcide. The blind eye is out of compassion, I think.
modafinil
20 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
A passport allows you to pass into the country. There are Polish Jews who have Israeli passports where neither they or their parents, grandparents etc. have been to Israel. They're hardly Israeli.
Polish people need a visa to be in America or they are illegal.
Seriously, I could teach my children not one lick of Polish and, guess what, their Polish passports (born in the US) say they are Polish. So does their pride. And the shape of their eyes. And how they stop and sing along to the Koledy I play at Christmas time.
A passport allows you to pass into the country. There are Polish Jews who have Israeli passports where neither they or their parents, grandparents etc. have been to Israel. They're hardly Israeli.
Polish people need a visa to be in America or they are illegal.
modafinil
19 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
Correct. In fact with the reunification after ww1 you can be indigenous if your ancestors were around in the late 19th century. Politically and anthropologically,indigenous is used as a contarst to invaders.
You are wrong. Poles are indigenous to Poland, or if one believes the theory of Slavic migrations they arrived in Poland well over one-thousand years ago which makes them pretty much indigenous as well.
Correct. In fact with the reunification after ww1 you can be indigenous if your ancestors were around in the late 19th century. Politically and anthropologically,indigenous is used as a contarst to invaders.
modafinil
18 Jan 2012
News / Poland - Third World Country?? [300]
Not to sure its unlimited. Quite a few provisos - have to be 18-30 yo and take temp jobs 6 month max with the same employer and max stay of 2 years.
Not to sure its unlimited. Quite a few provisos - have to be 18-30 yo and take temp jobs 6 month max with the same employer and max stay of 2 years.
modafinil
18 Jan 2012
Life / What is the reason for POLISH jokes ? [486]
I'm watching a Reginald D. Hunter stand-up video at the moment. He's an American who makes satirical jokes on race and class differences between the UK and US.
He made the joke that when he went back to America a friend asked him,
'Are they racist over there[in UK]',
He replied,
'Yeah,some.'
His friend then asked
'Do they have Mexicans over there?'
He replied,
'Yeah, but they call them Polish'
Got a big laugh.
I'm watching a Reginald D. Hunter stand-up video at the moment. He's an American who makes satirical jokes on race and class differences between the UK and US.
He made the joke that when he went back to America a friend asked him,
'Are they racist over there[in UK]',
He replied,
'Yeah,some.'
His friend then asked
'Do they have Mexicans over there?'
He replied,
'Yeah, but they call them Polish'
Got a big laugh.
modafinil
17 Jan 2012
USA, Canada / Can you BE Polish without SPEAKING Polish in the US? [256]
Once one leaves their country of origin they immediately mutate. If you replant something in a different environment it may be the same species but will grow differently, and dilute the pure form in comparison to the original plant in its original environment.
Once one leaves their country of origin they immediately mutate. If you replant something in a different environment it may be the same species but will grow differently, and dilute the pure form in comparison to the original plant in its original environment.
modafinil
15 Jan 2012
Work / Is it true that foreigners in Poland can teach English without any teaching certificate? [30]
Here is something I've had bookmarked for ages for no reason.
guardian/commentisfree/2011/may/09/neologism-thang-scrabble-abominations
Worth a read of the entire linked piece if you love our language and don't just teach it for survival.
Not too sure why I bothered to bookmark it though.
Here is something I've had bookmarked for ages for no reason.
Admission into any dictionary is the first step on the road to legitimation, thus raising the question of whether mispronunciation constitutes a genuine neologism. I hate to admit it, but historically speaking the answer to that question is yes.
The Americans amongst us might wonder why an American like me is using the archaic "amongst" instead of "among" like a normal person. Language usage matters, in other words, not merely because of our need to communicate denotatively, but because of the complex, subtle array of connotative meanings conveyed by specific usages. Usage creates groups; it includes and excludes, and it hierarchizes.
The Americans amongst us might wonder why an American like me is using the archaic "amongst" instead of "among" like a normal person. Language usage matters, in other words, not merely because of our need to communicate denotatively, but because of the complex, subtle array of connotative meanings conveyed by specific usages. Usage creates groups; it includes and excludes, and it hierarchizes.
guardian/commentisfree/2011/may/09/neologism-thang-scrabble-abominations
Worth a read of the entire linked piece if you love our language and don't just teach it for survival.
Not too sure why I bothered to bookmark it though.
modafinil
15 Jan 2012
Work / Is it true that foreigners in Poland can teach English without any teaching certificate? [30]
Here's one for you Roz.
A woman without her man is nothing.
A woman; without her, man is nothing.
I think that's what Lyzko is getting at. Sorry for ending a sentence with a proposition.(Does that rule still exist??)
Here's one for you Roz.
A woman without her man is nothing.
A woman; without her, man is nothing.
I think that's what Lyzko is getting at. Sorry for ending a sentence with a proposition.(Does that rule still exist??)
modafinil
15 Jan 2012
Work / Is it true that foreigners in Poland can teach English without any teaching certificate? [30]
Perhaps I should have made it clearer that by tefl I meant it generically as short for teaching English as a second language. But then again it is a generic acronymn not a specific one like TESOL or CELTA. However, all the OP asked was do you need a certificate not the quality. I was pointing out tefl certs. are **** easy to obtain.
Perhaps I should have made it clearer that by tefl I meant it generically as short for teaching English as a second language. But then again it is a generic acronymn not a specific one like TESOL or CELTA. However, all the OP asked was do you need a certificate not the quality. I was pointing out tefl certs. are **** easy to obtain.
modafinil
15 Jan 2012
Work / Is it true that foreigners in Poland can teach English without any teaching certificate? [30]
Coincidentally, I did have in mind when writing the above, an old school classmate who lost his job near the beginning of the recession who took a one week tefl course and then went off to the Gulf of Thailand area, touring the surrounding countries and 'teaching'. He left school with a grade E(or worse) in English.
Yes there is. Otherwise exams boards UCLES, Trinity College, ARELS and London Chamber of Commerce and Industry couldn't exist. It's implicit in the language.
Could try Vietnam though, from what I have heard..:)
Coincidentally, I did have in mind when writing the above, an old school classmate who lost his job near the beginning of the recession who took a one week tefl course and then went off to the Gulf of Thailand area, touring the surrounding countries and 'teaching'. He left school with a grade E(or worse) in English.
There's no such thing as a "tefl exam".
Yes there is. Otherwise exams boards UCLES, Trinity College, ARELS and London Chamber of Commerce and Industry couldn't exist. It's implicit in the language.
modafinil
15 Jan 2012
Work / Is it true that foreigners in Poland can teach English without any teaching certificate? [30]
Given that just about every idiot who sits a tefl exam passes (near 100%), not especially valued just a minimum standard to say you're not a complete div. You can pick up a tefl cert. over a weekend's course and advanced level takes another two days.
Given that just about every idiot who sits a tefl exam passes (near 100%), not especially valued just a minimum standard to say you're not a complete div. You can pick up a tefl cert. over a weekend's course and advanced level takes another two days.
modafinil
14 Jan 2012
UK, Ireland / london bus company bosses hire staff from poland [5]
Her's part of what the OP mentions (as the link doesn't work).
5 years old, mind: guardian.co.uk/business/2006/nov/08/immigrationasylumandrefugees.transportintheuk1
Prospective employees take a crash course in regional dialects, with screenings of Only Fools and Horses for anyone taking charge of a London bus and Billy Connolly concerts for Glasgow-bound drivers
and from today's Pole obsessed Daily Maul:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086652/Bosses-new-London-Rout emaster-bus-fly-Poland-hire-drivers-turning-Britons.htmlA UK bus operator flew bosses to Poland to recruit 50 new drivers despite there being 2.6million people on the dole in the UK.
Her's part of what the OP mentions (as the link doesn't work).
5 years old, mind: guardian.co.uk/business/2006/nov/08/immigrationasylumandrefugees.transportintheuk1
Prospective employees take a crash course in regional dialects, with screenings of Only Fools and Horses for anyone taking charge of a London bus and Billy Connolly concerts for Glasgow-bound drivers
and from today's Pole obsessed Daily Maul:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086652/Bosses-new-London-Rout emaster-bus-fly-Poland-hire-drivers-turning-Britons.htmlA UK bus operator flew bosses to Poland to recruit 50 new drivers despite there being 2.6million people on the dole in the UK.
modafinil
14 Jan 2012