Life / About Poznan! Foreigners, Life, Crimes, Job Prospects, Expenses! [12]

I see truth hurts the most, judging from the arguments ad personam :). One doesn't need to have any contact with mauritians to see you for what you are.

You're in no position to give anyone suggestions because you're simply not man enough to face your marital responsibilities.


Hold your horses there, boyo.

First you write:


"Married life" so I take it you both returned to wherever. Unless by "better married life" you mean staying away from your wife.

Now you write "leaving the wife temporarily".... Which one was it then? Why is the story changing all the time? Or is it just your inadequate command of English?


Yaaay, internet tough guy.

Love / Do polish men like career women? [60]


I take it you've had a run in with "Staruch's" finest, they did a little bit of ************* and now you are taking it out on all Polish men.


Someone's being anti-polonic.


Sure, whatever you say, sir.


My view, based upon hundreds of interactions with Polish people, is that you'll meet all types and Polish guys are not in any way pre-disposed to picking "youth and beauty" over "smarts" or looking for a surrogate mother that will take care of them ( which in turn of course would imply that they're unable to properly take care of themselves ).

That last bit is actually extremely stupid, considering the amount of totally self-sufficient Polish men I've met in the UK who came into the country back in 2004 with a few bob in their pocket and are now home/business owners or accomplished professionals.

Life / About Poznan! Foreigners, Life, Crimes, Job Prospects, Expenses! [12]

Thank you Seanus, to be honest I was slightly moved by the amount of selfishness in his post.

He MIGHT move to Poland to support his wife, assuming there'll be "no racism and stuff", good job prospects ( screw the economy, right?, everybody's got to bend over backwards for the little prince ) and few expenses. Otherwise she can fend for herself and live without a husband.

Husband of the year type.

Life / About Poznan! Foreigners, Life, Crimes, Job Prospects, Expenses! [12]

So you basically married a Polish girl in London, maybe to get UK residency, then moved back to Mauritius without her for some reason and now you're maybe considering moving to Poznan, provided they're not too racist to you over there.

Kiddo, marriage ( a real marriage, not a residency scam ) is about supporting your spouse through thick and thin, regardless whether it is tough ( racism, job prospects ) to do so.

You'd be wise to learn that.

Love / Polish men calling polish girl for dating englishman [80]

Ian, this is a two-way street, I've known English people extremely unhappy about the fact that their precious daughter was seeing an architect from Poland of all people. Why can't she find a decent English guy, they said.

You don't care, some people do, nothing to be worried about, just adapt and overcome.

Best of luck.

Study / A female Asian student considers studying in Poland [21]

The only people who complain are ( stereotypically ) Indians and Pakistanis.

Poland's had a huge influx of Vietnamese in the 1990's, back when they had machine gun assassinations 40 meters away from Palac Kultury in Warsaw, and said Vietnamese are doing wonderfully right now.

Study / Information Needed: Skarbek University, Warsaw. [57]

1. Poland is infamous for not paying educated people adequate money. It is pretty much THE reason why scores of Polish people go for temporary or permanent emigration.

It is not like that's some closely guarded state secret in Poland and one can learn this after 20 minutes of "research" on Google without knowing a word of Polish.

And here we got a kid who thinks he's just going to waltz in and everyone will kiss his ass because he's "so educated".

Talk about naivety.

2.


Works like a charm, very often. Check out the number of kids who get 200$k in debt to obtain a "law school degree" in United States from a crappy, low-ranked institution.

Study / Information Needed: Skarbek University, Warsaw. [57]


While Poland, on the other hand, happens to be the country of under-educated monkeys where people will bend over backwards for you after seeing your "impressive" education, mediocre English and so forth...

You need a reality check kiddo, highly educated Polish people who speak much better English than you do are LEAVING Poland because there aren't enough jobs that pay adequately for their level of education.

Also, in terms of obtaining education in Poland there are MAYBE 4 institutions worth talking and the one you've mentioned isn't one of them.

Love / Polish Girl & Me...Is She Interested? [57]

Why, thank you for necroposting and digging this up. I exchanged a couple PM's
with Phurion ( original TS ) after this thread ran its course and if I recall correctly
he did not decide to pursue this particular girl any further.

Now in regards to the comments- while I may have used a hyperbole, a number
of my colleagues had particularly nasty relationships with women from Lodz and
the word "greedy" came up every frigging time.

It becomes somewhat understandable if one visits Lodz personally and takes some
time to stroll away from "Piotrkowska" ( local high street ) or "Manufaktura" ( local
big mall owned by the French ) towards where Lodz's inhabitants actually live. Now,
if one walks away from Piotrkowska one will quickly find himself near such areas
of wealth and privilege as "Gdanska" or "Wschodnia", while walking away from "Manufaktura"
one can quickly reach the dreaded "Baluty" neighbourhood.

I **** you not, madam, these places look like Brownsville ( Brooklyn ) in the 80's,
sansthe burned out cars. Local population living in these abominable conditions
isn't exactly too nice or friendly.

Things aren't much better in the housing projects ( Widzew, Chojny ) located on
the outskirts of town.

To be fair though, I can't say a bad word about guys from Lodz, the ones I met
were/are either educated ( and underpaid ) professionals or bloody hard workers in the
construction industry. Most of them did complain about their wives/girlfriends though.

Edit: I'll throw in links to some photos of the areas I mentioned to illustrate what I mean:

fotoforum.gazeta.pl/zdjecie/1318459,3,13,52235,balutylodz2007.html

baluty-baluty.blogspot.com/2010/03/about-baluty-baluty-4.html

flickr.com/photos/thorkill/sets/72157624732123395

There, I think all is a bit clearer now.

Law / Maintenance & Rights: Polish mother & child in Poland, Irish father in the UK [57]


Get a good, Polish lawyer who operates an active family practice within the jurisdiction of the court that is ruling in the case.

Because you really are just getting shafted, big time.


A friend of mine who was married to a Polish girl did not see his daughter for 8 months, despite court ordered dates and so on.

Reason?

His daughter was supposedly sick EVERY time it was his day to see her. For 8 months in a row. Doctor signed off on it every time ( co-incidentally, getting a fake sickie from a family doctor in Poland costs around 30 pounds ).

Things did not move forward until he got a better ( expensive ) lawyer.

UK, Ireland / Eastern European girls forced against their will in Britain for prostitution? [67]


Human slavery ( I take it that's what you're referring to ) is barely on the fringes of the prostitution biz.

Yes, it is very profitable, but also very risky for anyone involved in such a scheme ( long jail sentences, confiscation of property, etc. ).

Now, in the majority of cases, a 20 y.o. girl without any professional qualifications who answers an ad promising to pay her ridiculous sums of money for menial labour/waiting tables/being a hostess knows very well what she's doing and what she's getting into.

UK, Ireland / Eastern European girls forced against their will in Britain for prostitution? [67]


Well, the situation kinda looks like this:

Most Polish people have a hard time dealing with the fact that a certain number of their women find becoming a prostitute in the UK a good alternative to other forms of employment, in Poland or abroad. Good money, not much work, taxes? what taxes? and so forth.

So then they make up these outrageous stories about "agencies" that lure young women in and force them to work in the biz.

Because, obviously, a 20 y.o. Polish girl doesn't get the hint after reading an ad promising 60k net per annum for being a "waitress".

That's pretty much it.

And oh, yes, a significant amount of Poles ( both genders ) I talked with had some odd ideas about what working as an "escort" actually was, so that might be part of the problem.

Law / Processing for divorce from a Polish woman ... need a help [21]

Lol...Darling aj lowe ju without happy ending, I take it.

Anyways, regarding your particular predicament, wells:

Bend over and spread them butt-cheeks wide, because, boy, you're about to get f-u-c-k-e-d.


Which she will get, since she'll be easily able to prove in the Polish court of law that you have neither will, ability or monetary means to provide for the child at an adequate level.


Her position will be a lot stronger, but mainly because it is a Polish court, the judge will be female and you egyptian boys have a bad rep in Poland. Polish family courts are notorious for being biased against foreigners and males.

So it will be kind of as if you sued her in egyptian court where your cousin's a judge.

Unless you get a good and expensive lawyer she will legally f-u-c-k you 'til you bleed and then obtain a court order barring you from having much ( if any ) contact with the child.

You're only lucky in a sense that she won't be able to collect any alimony payments ( not that you can afford them ) off you, since Polish court orders are probably impossible to execute in egypt.

Hope it helped.

Real Estate / How to get my property back in Poland? I left 36 years ago. [59]


By all means please do, it may lose some in the translation, but Nowicki ( the older male protagonist ) gives a good performance.


Indeed some of them weren't fortunate and got side-swept as the new law on currency exchange took hold ( 1989 if I recall right ).
Others were ready and opened up many legal businesses that dealt with currency exchange and pretty much made millions ( check up the background on the Real Estate developer from GPW called "Gant" ).

Just like with the officers from the political police, some were ready for the new system and ended up running banks, others weren't and ended up as rent-a-cops.

Real Estate / How to get my property back in Poland? I left 36 years ago. [59]


There's a halfway decent Polish movie about slightly earlier days which deals with money changers. It is called "Sztos" I believe and stars Pazura and Nowicki ( the latter, in my humble opinion, would have made a career both in UK and US had he been educated either in Britain or the States ). It has its moments, although I don't know if You can get a decent translation.

Back in the 1980's I rarely dealt with these guys because ( that's not said in the film I mentioned ) they all worked as informants for the infamous Polish political police. I think getting this job was actually one of the perks that came along with being an informant. But when we really had to we had these 2 semi-trustworthy guys ( they worked as a duo ) in Warsaw we dealt with. One of them is obscenely rich right now, no longer needs to work. The other one is... well, dead, and some people that knew him from back in the day said his death was mafia-related.


I conducted business in Poland in the 1980's through a "firma polonijna" and I've gotten **** on this site for describing some of the stuff Polish women would do in the 1980's.

Let's just say that I'm not in the least surprised by what You wrote. We had a saying in our little expat group in Warsaw that there had to be something wrong with a foreigner who didn't get laid in Poland, Polish women were basically throwing themselves at foreign guys and the almighty Dollar indeed often had a lot to do with it.

Real Estate / How to get my property back in Poland? I left 36 years ago. [59]

1) For a guy who supposedly lived in U.S. for a long time Your English is simply abominable, yurek.

2) From a legal standpoint You seem to be ******, but rest assured that there are dozens of lawyers in Poland that will tell You otherwise and milk You for what You're worth.

3) Don't expect to pay Polish lawyers peanuts nowadays, You and them might have a different idea about what "good money" is. I noticed it very often with Poles who left Poland for U.S. and still think everyone will fall all over themselves for a few bucks in Poland anno domini 2011.

If its a good lawyer and the apartment is worth over 1 million zloty don't expect to pay less than 100.000 zloty for his services.

4)


She's retarded if she goes for a settlement in this particular case.

5) I'll be very blunt now --> You made Your choices yurek and one of these choices included shipping money ( ridiculous amounts by Polish standards, semi-ok amount by U.S. standards ) to Poland and not protecting your investment. The reason you got interested in the case is purely monetary, after you discovered one can no longer purchase a flat in Poland for chump change. Don't expect any sympathy from a Polish court here, they'll look at the facts of the case and probably quote what I quoted on p.1 after rejecting Your claim.

6)


Hardly a legal scholar here ( I hire my own lawyers ), but how You expect a court of law to take into account black market prices of any commodity while looking into the matter is really beyond me.


Please re-read carefully what I wrote on p.1. Also, expect to hear a story from yurek about the precautions him and his precious wife took to prevent anyone from stealing their shiny U.S. dollars, which will most likely make proving the fact that he paid her anything rather difficult.

Real Estate / How to get my property back in Poland? I left 36 years ago. [59]


My reasoning is perfectly ok, thank you.

If I need to spell it out: If he was removed from the deed by way of illegal or underhanded means and 30 years passed from the date of said removal art. 172 par. 2 of the Polish Civil Code protects the sole right of "ownership" of his wife. She can claim that in any court after he files whatever his Polish lawyer draws up for him.

It is a little something they refer to as "zasiedzenie" in Poland, it applies to real estate and based on the very same article a hobo who builds a shack on someone's plot and manages to live there unnoticed and uninterrupted for 30 years could try to claim ownership.

He could theoretically claim there were interruptions of her stay in the flat and that if anything might be able to save him if 30 years indeed passed from the date I mentioned. Also he could theoretically claim that she obtained his removal by way of crime which would, if I correctly understand, make all the fruits of such behaviour unclaimable in civil court ( my lawyer knows this stuff better, sorry ) but the Polish criminal statute of limitations covers her on this end.

I would also like to point out that I am rather well-versed in the "zasiedzenie" related issues, as some of my Jewish friends who tried to reclaim property were blocked exactly by the article and paragraph I just quoted. So unless someone is going to make a properly backed up legal argument please don't tell me I don't know jack in this particular matter.

Real Estate / How to get my property back in Poland? I left 36 years ago. [59]

Not really, if he "left Szczecin 36 years ago" and during that period his wife was in possession of the flat without any breaks she has already obtained ownership regardless whether she ****** him out of it by the book or not --> art. 172 par. 2, Polish Civil Code, as mentioned before.

She could have walked him out of that flat at gunpoint, if he didn't do anything about it for 30 years passed its all fine and dandy according to Polish law.


Oh, yeah, rolling on the floor laughing here.

Real Estate / How to get my property back in Poland? I left 36 years ago. [59]

Amazing what rising property prises in Poland bring out in people. Not talking only about Poles, either.

Anyways, statute of limitations in Poland is 10 years and ownership of real estate passes from the legal owner to the person that uses the property for 20 years, 30 years in case of bad faith ( article 172 par 2, Polish Civil Code ).

That's Polish Civil Law 1.01 and it pretty much means You're screwed.

UK, Ireland / 50 babies a day born to Polish mothers in UK [81]

Hardly newsworthy, it is pretty much common knowledge around here that the surest way to get a Polish woman pregnant is to put her on a Ryanair heading for Blightey.

UK, Ireland / We live in the UK; my husband is not legal in England [47]


Fair point, Jaroslaw Kaczynski would be beside himself if that happened, I can see him right now crying to the cameras about the plight of poor Poles and stolen jobs...

UK, Ireland / We live in the UK; my husband is not legal in England [47]

Try a few decades ago.

UK, Ireland / We live in the UK; my husband is not legal in England [47]

7 years ago I was as legal as ever.

Love / Why Poland and Indian Sub-Continent? [30]


Truly, this forum has never encountered people from 3rd world countries who are just soooo desperate to get into Poland of all places:

How To Study In Poland and stay with my GF? Inability to move to Poland looks stupid.

( only two of the most recent examples, btw. )

In case you haven't noticed, des essientes ( and why should you ) after years and years of leniency UK is cracking down on non-EU immigration. I guess the cheeky ones amongst us will say that nowadays we got the Polish doing their work, but the bottom line is this:

UK is looking into limiting non-eu immigration and is actively plugging all the holes in our immigration law, so to speak.

Now, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, etc. - often they don't even know such holes exist, so a trick that worked 30 years ago in the UK works just fine over in Eastern Europe.

And since obtaining residency in Eastern Europe equals obtaining EU residency nowadays, small wonder people from 3rd world countries are trying.

Love / Why Poland and Indian Sub-Continent? [30]

1) Indian guys looking for EU passports.

2) Indian guys looking for white girls --> English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh women will often reject them on principle ( don't blame me, that's a complaint I heard from a number of Indian males ), Polish women actually consider an indian guy a "better catch" than a Polish guy.

3) I haven't seen many Polish male / Indian female couples in the UK. Have you?

Work / How To Study In Poland and stay with my GF? Inability to move to Poland looks stupid. [60]


And they've been "close to alignment" for the past 10 or 15 years...


Frankly, I was probably the most helpful person in this thread.

The quicker he's told he's making wrong assumptions the better.

Work / How To Study In Poland and stay with my GF? Inability to move to Poland looks stupid. [60]

While I am a fan of secular Turkey ( other alternatives aren't to my liking ) I must say you're completely off your rocker.

If a candidate has completed 1 out of 33 if I recall correctly requirements in 20+ years, then they're simply a lousy candidate or they're unwilling to make any real concessions - it is as simple as that. Sugarcoat it all you want, that's the logical conclusion.

The funny part is that most of Eastern European candidate states that made it into the EU in 2004 weren't really that much better off than Turkey when they started.

Work / How is the living standard in Poznan? Does 5200 PLN enough for a decent living? [32]

Your offer, quite frankly, sounds too good to be true based on Your qualifications and what people ( expats included ) get paid in Poland.

Act carefully.

Love / Help - evil Polish girl after my partner. [39]

1) Let's just say there is a reason why I don't date women from Eastern Europe and why Your Polish partner happens to be dating You ( I presume You're English ). Some stereotypes didn't exactly appear out of thin air. The girl You describe is the embodiment of quite a few of them.

2) You will not be able to help someone who is unwilling to receive help.

3) It is highly likely that they will "work out their differences" and You'll be no longer allowed into their household due to Abdul Abdullah not liking Your role in all this.

Work / How To Study In Poland and stay with my GF? Inability to move to Poland looks stupid. [60]


And who is holding 30 or so acquis chapters open for Turkey?