Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]


what behavior? you sterotyping me just because I am a woman and asking questions on the forum so you put me in the
same classification even though have been completely reasonable in my posts. hmmmmmmmm.


who?

I dont see any proclaimed in the thread.. just regular women and men posting in a thread..


I didnt call anyone names, I am trying to make sense of it, and so far you keep posting for him, are you his Polish forum

lawyer now?


I have been trying to help, can you let him post for himself? I been asking questions go back and read , and for god sake let

him answer and stop your ranting, your acting like its your life.. no one is asking you the questions !


how can you explain from a womens perspective on one case? and its not your perspective we want to hear, everyones situation can
be different, if you dont know him how can your situation even be remotely close to his, hes not even married.
and again, he was the OP who should have answered his own posts, his own questions, its not your situation I am interested in
nor is it part of this thread , If I want to know about yours I would have asked.. dont tell me I dont know anything about reality

when you dont even know me and clearly make ass-umptions based on your own experience calling people fems when you dont
know anything about them if they have children.

all of us have children and couldnt imagine one minute without them, life would end, but you seem to know each of us individually
* maybe you have a crystal ball or something* my children are my life .

its unfortunate that you had such a hard time, I love my mother in law , wouldnt trade her for the world,

sometimes you have to compromise to come to a happy ending, because fighting doesnt solve anything,


Thank you for appreciating :)

ok, I just want to ask, because you said that she cant leave now, who is helping her if she is not able to leave and you

were advised to not help/give any money at this time * that is what I read right?

I think you * as a good father* should at least go get some diapers or baby food to help out, its hard to pay for all these

things on your own. I dont think your not a good Father, I dont really know you, but from your posts, its getting more clear

theres alot of confusion, prob lots of answers you need.. sometimes when we have children, we go thru a period of postpartum
where we just dont even know ourselfs.. its weird.. I can say one thing, it takes at least a year to feel good again, to feel like

yourself.

she is prob feeling like she needs her mothers help at this point, I so love my mother for helping me, i didnt know how

hard it would be, she was so much help, my mother is gone, I miss her dearly, I cry all the time, cause even now i have

situations that require a mothers advice.. and you know how much you love your mother, prob as much, and all i can say is
to me this is what I think it sounds like from the post you explained, because she doesnt have any answers either.. lawyers
or psycologist wont make it better.. she needs rest and her body needs to heal.. and if you helped her *ALOT* then she
should be understanding to your side. you two need to talk, I mean really sit and just tell each other what/and why and or just

tell her you are sorry and you can try again.

see I only say that cause I dont know how far along your break up is, I am used to people pouring their hearts out and

responding to it.. you are very reserved.. thats good and bad.. because you need to open up a little more too.
its ok to love because you will love all your life , it doesnt go away as some think, your always loved by your family, your friends

it just feels like love is gone cause you poured it all into one soul intead of spreading it out.

:)

UK, Ireland / Why would anyone kill himself? Polish guy kills himself in Ireland [16]

Turned the knife on himself? he comes home to find another man with his wife walking in the home at 6:50 am?

yeah, Right.. cover up if I ever seen one, more then likely he grabbed the knife and went after the other guy but
he overpowered him and stabbed him, and so not it reads man stabs self.. what a crock.

the only three in the home were them.. so of course he stabbed himself... if the police dont investigate then its a sad
story,

Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]

how do you figure in Jealous?

and why do you keep answering for anglik1?

they do it for a reason beyond reasonable thought <~tells me that its just better to beat around the bush then get
to the nitty gritty. right?

what is beyond reasonable thought? was there adultry? are they married? did she want to Marry and he pushed
her away? did she go to poland and realize she was homesick and just cant stay in the UK anymore WHAT?? WHAT???

Half the time the beating around the bush leads people to make thier own conclusion of the situation..
which is what is happening in this thread.. do you know this man ANT63???? do you know his EX???
cause if you dont, then please let him answer his own posts and let him be the man to step up. OK

Genealogy / Vintage Photos of Polish ancestors [144]

Now we have ways of preserving our old photos, but I have heard stories over and over, of how some were lost in floods
and house fires, you can copy photos to disks now and send to extended family and have like 20 copies out there of the
family.. getting them back might be difficult :) or not, but you can always use a saftely deposit box as well.


very nice Photos,

Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]


she said * MIGHT* not you *ARE*

your taking things way overboard, understandable your upset, alot has happened, She is on your Ex's side of the fence and
you dont like that. I am good at helping others, but I cant even begin because your posts are really angry.

( not at me though) but reading, I think you left some things out.. because most couples who part, at least discuss
what went wrong, they might not talk for a little while, but they do some communication and most of the time even if its
angry communication, its said out loud in a harsh fight or in a pleading manner, why and what went wrong and if they
cant get along they part.. not always on good terms.

you still didnt even say whether you would get blood tests, why would you not even want to know if this was
your child for certain? you kinda bounced around that subject, if I am wrong I apologize I dont really intend to add more
anguish to your heart, but I dont feel there is enough said to really know how to help.

of course you dont need to say. we dont need names of people, buy why would you not make sure, maybe she does not
want you to pay because its not yours.

why all of the sudden does a person just up and leave? not giving you answers, not wanting you to pay? not wanting
you on the birth cert?

do you see why some of us QUESTION? I dont give trust to everyone, it has to be earned.

Ps.. you keep saying she called you an abuser, but by you accusing her of it when in fact she said might.
and then you want her to email you *PROVOCATION* which I am not a lawyer, but that does seem a little odd that you want

someone who was *Supposedly Calling you names Email you privately.

NOT GOOD SIR NOT GOOD..

Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]

oops, yep, that was ant, but Zimmy is riling her up.

I am kinda on the fence, I read back some of it, still dont make sense to me why he would not get blood tests

to make sure, especially since she didnt name him on the birth cert.. was she unsure? most of the time we
are on here giving advice for the guys who are going to get child support slapped on them ( those who leave
for Poland and get the courts to order the men to pay) , its weird to not want anything, or not want this child
to have the fathers name when she is or comes from supposedly catholic background.

yeah, still on the fence.. how can her passport be revoked when he isnt named on the birth cert to begin with?

why dont you just ask her for DNA testing so you can know for sure, either way at least you know the truth and
you can then make your plans, what if this child isnt yours and she does leave for Poland and still charges you
once she is there with child support? wouldnt that be the icing on the cake.

Maybe F stop has points , because it is a little strange to me to why she would just up and run and not want any help

when babies require alot of care.. to not want anything, maybe its your last ditch effort to keep her somewhere she
dont want to be.. we dont know you from adam, so there is alot of things this story could be, you getting angry with
f-top about it, when truth is, you cant really expect us all to trust you not fully knowing your ex's side of the story.

we will try to help, but if theres a decrepancy in your posts, and you want help, in a public forum, we try to be helpful

but you have to know your going to get alot of answers, not everyone you will like.

Genealogy / Kuras & Gulczynski 1872 Polish immigrants that lived in Toledo, Ohio [7]

Name: John Gulcz
Age: 58
Birth Year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Poland
Home in 1920: Toledo Ward 10, Lucas, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1873
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Victoria Gulcz
Father's Birthplace: Poland
Mother's Birthplace: Poland
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Gulcz 58
Victoria Gulcz 42
William Gulcz 21
Matthew Gulcz 20
Bernice Gulcz 19
Josephine Gulcz 18
Helen Gulcz 17
Hedwina Gulcz 15
Clara Gulcz 12
Anna Gulcz 11
Leo Gulcz 9
Florence Gulcz 4
Max Gulcz 1

says he was naturalized in 1882 according to the cencus 1920, my thoughts are that you could try to find the original papers
via that local office. Naturalization Records
All naturalization records of persons naturalized in this Court prior to 1967 are stored at and are available through:

National Archives and Records Administration
Great Lakes Region
7358 South Pulaski Road
Chicago, Illinois 60629-5898

National Archives Website

To confirm dates of naturalization or obtain copies of name changes since 1967, contact the Clerk's Office Naturalization Clerk:

Phone: (216) 357-7014

Email: Naturalization@ohnd.uscourts.gov

Contact the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services at 1-800-375-5283 or view their website for information including:

I guess the older records are in chicago, I was able to get my grandmothers from our local office, but I havent tried my grandfathers

But you can get alot of information off the naturalizations, I am not sure about the year for your grandfathers cause that was really
early, but its worth a try.

it might give you some good information to lead you to the town he came from.

Name: John Kuras
Age: 28
Birth Date: May 1872
Birthplace: Ger. Poland
[Germany;Poland]
Home in 1900: Toledo Ward 8, Lucas, Ohio
[Lucas]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Francis Kuras
Marriage Year: 1895
Years Married: 5
Father's Birthplace: Ger. Poland
Mother's Birthplace: Ger. Poland
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Kuras 28
Francis Kuras 25
Helen Kuras 3
Regila Kuras 11/12

for john per the 1900 cencus says he was born in 1872 and came in 1888 I will look again, see if there was another john can you match up the names of the family? is this the right John?

Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]


She did say she hoped the best for you, Zimmy is riling her up,

Truth is there is only your side, you seem like you want to do the right thing, which is commendable, so hopefully
everything works out for the best for the baby,

Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]


There is more to this story, hopefully the most important thing that will come out of it is the parents getting along
for the babys sake, visitations are calm and that this baby gets all the love they need to grow up happy and healthy.

now if you will excuse me , this mamma hates dramma. :) off to another thread. lol

Love / Prevention of child abduction by Polish mother. [232]


Well I think you should get blood testing done asap.. I dont understand why you would not be named on the birth
cert, unless you dont live in the same home.

But to make sure your doing the right thing, I think you should at least order blood tests to ensure your not stopping her
from leaving with someone else's child.. I didnt get to read thru all the posts only yours as I am on my way to work as always :)

but I would say if you dont live in the same home or even if you do, I dont know why you wouldnt be on the birth cert, that certainly

doesnt sound right.

is there more you can share about this whole situation ? not to be nosey :)

BBL

Genealogy / Looking for relatives of Anna Rutkowska from Augustow [5]


Carol first ask if they can locate records, then send them a decent donation, thats not really very much now a days , I usually send

more then that, especially to the church.

Related: Falicki Family in Augustow, Poland


FALICKI: root-word chwała (praise, glory, boasting /chwalić się/); this is a simplified form of Chwalicki, which probably produced Falicki because the initial aich-sound in Chwalicki was barely audible in rapid or even normal colloquial speech.

Genealogy / Searching for info on my Grandfather, Kolata [17]

What you need is the church address and or the town /city hall address for more records

if you already have the date of birth and someone can post the church name and address you
can get a letter prepared for translation and send it out .

UK, Ireland / Why can't unemployed Polish people on benefits just leave UK and go home please? [240]


maybe the amount of money they get from it isnt enough to get them home, ever think of that, some govt sub dont
give enough to pay all the bills, and keep people above water, you think they enjoy it, I cant imagine just existing
on it and not living comfortable.. you need to realize they might not enjoy living like that either.

Food / Stuffed cabbage - gołąbki - recipe [59]

I will be making some in the next week or so here, prob my next weekend off, and I will be
making a double batch one for our family ( cause my oldest brother is a monster when I cook them)
And send some to him, plus one of our friends who just re-modeled my kitchen ( woo hoo)

I think I will make them both ways with a mushroom sauce and then maybe with the tomato juice or my original
way.. I just was curious what was the very first original recipe ( before cans) LOL

I was thinking maybe that they would cook tomatoes down and then bake them on top, but of course spice them
up some, I know when you bake tomatoes the flavor changes ( pretty tasty) Vs putting them in a pot and cooking
them down ( which I have made a homemade spagettie sauce from my garden tomatoes and it was awsome, my daughters
friends asked me what kind of sauce I used from a jar and I said I didnt, they loved it! And it was healthy and I didnt use

harsh chemicals, only a food and ground it into the soil with that dark fine soil and yeah, they were some really good
tomatoes!!

Food / Stuffed cabbage - gołąbki - recipe [59]

Well, before then invented canned tomato sauce, what was used, was it without the tomato sauce or just sourkraut?

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]


I tend to agree with this point,

Polonius, your a poor excuse for Polish American, you put down other kids who learned beside you, what kind of educated
man would do this? fully knowing the fact that all children learn at different levels and that this isnt the fault of the children
so why would you call them mongrels?? the only person I see as a mongrel is you at this point, you should not post representation

on this board of yourself as the ultimate POLISH AMERICAN when you clearly stink at it!!

Respect is something that is earned, I dont see how you would earn respect when you knock down others!!
education should have taught you this as well as your parents!
That is a Huge Polish American Tradition, to respect others, something you forgot to learn, you can be proud of who
you are and your ancestry without cutting down people that have done nothing against you.

Let me also make one thing clear, I am second generation, I dont watch the telelvison 6 hours of the day, I dont have time, most

Americans dont, unless they are laid off , then they have alot of time, not their fault though.

what gets me is that it seems like everyone gets a general idea of how Americans are by watching television in Europe as well
and base their opinions on that. BTW California is a entertainment state.. so how you get around that when you live
around pretty much all the movie stars in America I dont know.

Europe has sports, different kind, but none the less sports they invest in as well, and this is also a big deal over there, with racing

and hockey and soccer.. come on with this media crap.. its not about that we all know it.

what i see is that people cant get over the fact that no one is better then anyone else!! its a huge world, you can choose to live

where you all want to, and still make choices of helping others.. that includes poland if you want.

I just find it really fricken silly that a Polish American is ashamed of his own.. take the silver spoon out out of your fanny and

quit acting like your the representation of the whole.

To Others on the board, what defines you is your business, some may struggle, some may have a easy time and not have
to fight , but in the end you became who you are because your family survived and none of us would be here if those before us

didnt fight their way to get to this point in time.

Lets not forget that !

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]


so your basing your observation on that?

There was also a fair share that came to America only to work and went back to stay in Poland,

I know there are plenty who wanted to forget, this was typical of some ( not all) Polish Immigrants during early
Immigration.

As for all the chicks you banged.. TMI EM_WAVE MY FRIEND>> TMI

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]


does the general population in Europe and other countries go around wearing their national flag?

Genealogy / Being ashamed of Polish ancestry? [156]


well if you choose to not know or dont care thats your choice, if you have like 10 different mixes it would be hard to
figure out, none the less interesting if you could even count that high. :)


oh we have a new cencus enumerator who happens to know that the whole population of Polish Americans that he knows
Personally Arent Proud of their Ancestry.


Yeah, supposedly we wave keilbasa and make t-shirts and prance around..

I think those that spend so much time thinking about all of this need some serious help, because I certainly dont
spend so much time wondering why so many other nationalities that come to this site (POLISHFORUMS) why they
are wannabe Polish Either. its not my style.. and it would be wrong of me to accuse so many people of something
so foolish as that now wouldnt it.

because they obviously come here because they feel connected in some way, otherwise they would be on another forum
making waves now wouldnt they? Or would they?

Tune in next time for Trollers of the forum continues saga.

Please lets grow up folks, please lets discuss it like adults, we all can do this, its the accusations and stupid comments
like this one which sounds so bi-polar its not funny.. well it is funny, but thats beside the point.


Thug, you shouldnt have wrote you are what you feel in your heart cause it takes away from the other stupid part of your paragraph

now I have to wonder WTF your saying.. cause it sounds like your nipping the bottle babe.

anyways... I love that I am American of Polish decent, I love my grandparents for bringing our family here, the struggles, as a kid
I didnt know any of this, but bullys would say stupid shyt to us as kids and we would hate being Polish, least thats my younger view

now as an adult, learning that this was only bullying, I appreciate that my grandparents came here, they sacraficed alot but made it
thru it and they did what they had to like anyone else's grandparent would to survive.

And to boot they had to put up with jealous family on top of it.. no one was stopping those who decided to stay from coming here too

they had options they choose to stay.. the world is a big place and if you have the wind against your back you will only move forward

Thats what they did

so thats my story and I am sticking to it.. :)

Love / Polish girls want to be dominated. Fact? [63]


I think he figured it out southern :)

Love / Polish girls want to be dominated. Fact? [63]


lmao


Third! lol


we all have bad relationships, she isnt ready to let go of this guy, maybe he sweet talked her, who
knows, but until she is completely out of it with him she wont be entirely yours. so its good that your
seperating yourself, because it sounds like a whole lotta drama was about to happen.

keep your life on track, you cant save someone if they dont want to be saved.

Love / My Polish wife got married to me but she's still not in love? [34]


well do you do anything nice for her? how come she is doing everything, dont you think you should step up
to the plate and help out? let her see you appreciate her more then she knows.. she might take a second look and
realize hey this guy is pretty nice, I might even like him.

try it!

Love / Polish girls want to be dominated. Fact? [63]


might not be your thing, but think about how you came from a whole different lifestyle and walked into a cold arms!

I think you wanting to see if she is worth it, well I hope for your sake she is, maybe she made a mistake and felt pressured

who knows, but dont you think that as adults, even you would have said listen, I dont think you coming is a good idea, I think

you should find another place to stay, I felt embarassed when I read that, almost for you because of her, not that is my problem

but as the reader, you kinda put yourself in the shoes of the writer.. thats why you get so many different responses but all worth

thinking about.

you know her best, if you feel she isnt doing anything wrong, or she is confused, then trying is probably an option, but I hope

she isnt stringing you along till the next time then say goodbye.

she must be doing rather good for herself to have a place of her own and able to go out.

:)

Love / Polish girls want to be dominated. Fact? [63]


yeah thats little off.

I think you did good, I would dump her, she doesnt sound like a good one,
just stay friends, but tell her you lost your feelings now to since you were pushed away.

I wouldnt give her the time of day , your in Poland now, you have other things to get done and
there are other girls you can meet. Her loss.

good luck to you :)

Genealogy / Polish birth, death and marriage records in Russian scripts? [16]


no kidding, I have yet to get more records myself, I am almost ready to but now I might have to find a new
person to copy, not sure if the same organist is still in the church I recieved mine from. its alot of work, time
and money.

Genealogy / Zaucha ancestry [12]

Name: Laurence Zaachs
[Laurence Zaucha]
[Laurence Zaucha]
Age in 1910: 40
Birth Year: 1870
Birthplace: Austria
Home in 1910: Nelson Park, Marshall, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1895
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Katie Zaachs
Father's Birthplace: Austria
Mother's Birthplace: Austria
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Laurence Zaachs 40
Katie Zaachs 31
Mary Zaachs 10
Frank Zaachs 8
Tom Zaachs 6
Balbina Zaachs 4
Nellie Zaachs 2
Lona Zaachs 1 1/12
[1]

1910 cencus

I did some heavy searching just now and they are almost invisible.. wow.

if you order the social security for your grandfather laurence which shows he died in 1937 I believe, you could get his fathers
name and town name from that. then you can come back, possibly someone could do a look up for the chuch and order more
records.. social security is little costly, but well worth it.

UK, Ireland / Memorial garden in London and Douglas Scotland [11]

Beautiful, I welled up, everyone should be remembered, this was very nice to see Dtaylor thank you.

:)

Life / Secrets of Poland - what makes it so special? [13]


Amber is plentyful in Poland

Amber (Bursztyn in Polish) is fossilized tree sap that dates back 40 million years. It comes from all around the world, but the highest quality and richest deposits are found around the Baltic Sea. During the colder months, when water density reaches its highest point, amber floats up from the seabed and is washed to shore by the waving sea. Amber is the only fossil resin that contains 3 to 8% succinic acid, a multi-purpose therapeutic substance, that was prescribed by early physicians for headaches, heart problems, arthritis and a variety of other ailments. In ancient times it was carried by travellers for protection. All of our amber is directly imported from the Baltic city of Gdansk, Poland.

Wow I didnt even know they used it for headaches, I wonder if it actually worked for that?

anyways, thought this was a good start :)

good luck to you

Life / Is Poland a poor country? [578]

is anyone running around in loin cloths in Poland?

that I would consider poor , I am sure there are poor people, jobless, in need of care etc.
but to dub the whole country poor when there are plenty of Rich/med class citizens is silly.

Ps if you run around in Loin cloths please take a picture for me ( guys only) LOL

make sure you put some tannin oil on and spray up with water so it looks like your sweating from all that running around
lol

j/k ;)

Feedback / How to connect with who are online here ? [11]

yeah who is online here ... lol

whooooooo are you,, who who who who... awwwww tell me who are you
whooooooo are you.. who who who who... I really wanna know... now just tell me who are you!!!!

aww forget it,, I am going to hit the pillow..

goodnite sweetheart well its time to go, ba bada ba ba, good night sweet heart yes its time to go...
I hate to leave you but I really must say,, good night sweet heart good night... ba bada ba bada ba boom.. :)