Work / Professional development for teachers? the options in Poland? [11]


Then I'd argue there's precious little knowledge that one needs to enroll in an MA Philology program to attain that can't be attained for much less a cost elsewhere and independantly (i.e. if time is money).


I never suggested that's the aim but point taken nonetheless.

Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]


which invalidates your opinion on the matter, sorry but this is about Polish women (actually younger women and girls) in Poland not American women with Polish ancestry.

It's a question of lifestyle and here in Poland, everyone is getting more and more plump:(

Work / Professional development for teachers? the options in Poland? [11]


If time is money then how much money does one stand to gain from their time investment in a Polish Philology MA? I really don't know the answer but I wonder how much practical classroom usage there is to be garnered from so much theory. You tell me if having a "a thorough education in three branches of linguistics (synchronic, diachronic and phonology" is going to financially set one apart from those who have a celta or delta.

I did a pronunciation activity at a high school a couple years ago. It was a group of about 40 or more and I was there as a guest to do a presentation and basically keep a group of strangers entertained. I followed up the presentation with a pronunciation activity- all of these teachers with MA's were in shock as it seemed they genuinely had no idea how to run such a simple activity. Students doing their MA's regularly "steal" the materials I bring to class- there's a lot of bull sh*t in any arts degree so I am skeptical...

Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]

^it's more a comment on the younger generation which are getting just plain fat, forget the euphemisms, when it's flab hanging out then a sugar-coating is exactly what the problem is.

Travel / Mosques in Krakow? [131]


This is true, he is informed but I've got that moron lying in what was simply a vain and pathetic way of him trying to put on heirs (e-style)- the guy's a total fag.

Love / Polish women USED TO BE much more attractive: [162]


No. You are just plain misinformed. It's not your fault but we ought to gain more than a cursory knowledge of how the body uses food before we hand out advice.

Lose weight? Focus on getting in better shape first!


No. This is also incorrect. Meat is not the only source of protein. Not only that but it's a "theory" or in the case you referenced it is a hypothesis. Point being that no one actually put in lab work on this unless there's a 25,000 year old laboratory that we don't know about. Besides ALLLL that, he wasn't saying "never eat meat" he was correctly stating that meat doesn't have to be in every meal like the fat arses in the states seem to think.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

^while an exaggeration to an extent it is closer to the mark than you will either admit or are aware of.-it is a matter of "getting there" for many and nothing else. In any case, the comment was directed towards the proponents of "multiculturalism." But, hey, cool, you got to use some debating lingo.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]


In today's western world you cannot have a multi cultural platform without it meaning the gates are wide open, everyone's welcome, no questions asked and "integration" becomes an afterthought and then it becomes a racist's expectation:/

People on this thread are using the term how it's actually expressed in national policies imo...
There are no shades of gray/grey these days politically- you must be completely on board and unquestioning of one issue or completely against it.

So until a sensible middle ground cements itself, I have to be against what is being passed for "multiculturalism" in Poland.
I've seen its effects elsewhere and I'm not impressed.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]


You and I must have different notions of what "rich" means. Again I also get the impression you are confusing "country" with citizenry- are the people rich or is the "country" rich and what does that mean? You wrote about the Chinese and Indian economies being "rich" yet individuals being poor. I think you are confusing GDP and GNP with average wealth. As far as I know, the two are very different.


Your comments are continually off the mark. This isn't a question of the decline of the white race (whatever the hell you mean by that) it is a question of whether or not people want to avoid the dramatic shift in society that occurred in the UK, Germany, France and Scandinavia via lax and misguided immigration policies. Integration has more than failed to keep up with immigration in those areas. Got any better ideas for improved integration?

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

you people are just not thinking. Just because the population is going down does not necessitate THE SKY IS FALLING. Fewer people in Europe would actually be a healthy thing. Look at how prosperous life is for people in India and China, why import their problem? There is a burgeoning population globally and instead of creating an oasis, some of you brainwashed fools are trying to ensure the worst of it hits Polish society too. Give your heads a collective shake.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

^You are completely correct on this matter. Yet there are some (many) who will refuse to accept that you are correct because it would force them to reassess the angle they've bought into regarding race, political correctness and how badly they've allowed themselves to be misled. They'd rather continue being dead wrong than face the fact that liberal immigration policies don't work for the host nation (and by "liberal" I don't mean by name only).

It's interesting you used Wall-Mart as your comparison because, sadly, it is guiltless western consumption that adds to the destitute life someone in the 3rd world must live in.

Shop local, buy local and support your civic, regional and national economies! This will pay dividends for your children and grandchildren.

Law / How long is the waiting period after applying for Polish citizenship via marriage? [29]

I think they must make some money off of it too. It's an indicator of a lack of options for some just like a high number of prostitutes is, in fact it's really just another form of prostitution.

Law / Poland's Work permit questions - visiting European countries; working in the EU / switching job; dependants [86]

Why would it be?

Work / What kind of job can I find, can I make descent money in Poland? Coming from Canada. [33]

go back to canada. You'll make AT LEAST 4 times that (take home) any how over there. Starting wage for a labourer is 16/hour and that's with no experience. Bartending is also way more lucrative over there. Are you really Canadian or are you in the process of trying to "redocument" yourself?

Law / Poland's Work permit questions - visiting European countries; working in the EU / switching job; dependants [86]

Dear OP,
Don't take this personally but I do wish from the bottom of my heart that you and others like you would kindly fcuk off as there are more than enough bakers in Poland.

You're just trying to take advantage of loop holes in the E.U. immigration system and once you get a foot hold you'll use that to mule more people from where you're from into Poland and/or other E.U. member states.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]


Yeah, what if?
Until that happens though...

Life / I got beaten and kicks in my face just cuz i dont look polish [205]


Read this and remember this. It gets no truer than this.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]


It does seem you hold the word "discrimination" and the term "conservative immigration" to be synonymous.
Immigration policies act to generalize whether one likes it or not.
Liberal immigration policies tend to float adrift in a sea of naivety towards how immigrants will live if given the option of living off the work of others. But on the flip side it provides more government handou....er...jobs for case officers and those in social assistance.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

In Poland, if I want to pass someone while walking, I slow down. They will invariably try to move slower than me which allows me to pass them. Should I want to merge into the area where someone is walking (or driving), I just make a move like I want to pass, they'll speed up and I get to amble in to where I wanted to go. It does seem that many Poles age 30 and up really do act out of spite more than one might expect in an emerging society.

When things are broken, stolen or misused, I vent. There is always at least one Pole scoffs at me (or anyone observant of the matter) for expecting things to work properly and then give some advice that completely avoids solving the original problem. It's frustrating in that it's so f*cking counter productive yet it is the norm amongst whole generations.

Who wouldn't have enough of that after a lifetime? But then again that whole social game just seems to be how Poles "test" one another.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]


So Polish trepidation towards liberal immigration policies would mean Poles are guilty of learning from the mistakes made by administrations abroad. That may land them accusations of hypocrisy but by the same token, accusations of being smart.

Everyone wants an easier life where ever they are. Natives of the land do too. How have the lives of native Englanders been made easier from the immigration policies their leaders have passed?

I'm more than willing to keep up the generalizing when it comes to European immigration because I have the advantage of being able to point to the preponderance of insular neighborhoods that have high percentages of 1st and 2nd generation immigrants that, as it turns out, are sh*t holes- high crime, dirty, highly dependent on government handouts. Why would I give up such an advantage in making my case?

Poles are from the E.U. and E.U. nationals can come to Poland any time they like. I don't know why we're examining the behaviour of Poles abroad as anything except a strong indication as to how utterly irresponsible and insensitive to the electorate it is for governments to allow such policies to come to fruition in the first place.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

It's a silly question in that we all know what the plan of many a Nigerian is- get out and live where ever it's easiest.

But why not ask what present day Nigerians would do if they were living in a functional society and others wanted in. Better yet look at how Nigerians deal with one another (for whatever reason)?

Is that really a way of life you want to emulate? I met a few very cool dudes from Nigeria in London and it if they were the norm then this wouldn't be a debate. Living in an immigrant neighborhood in London's east end exposed me to the reality of the U.K. immigration policy- it's basically importing in people who are highly prone to: violence; theft; vandalism; drug trafficking; prostitution; cultural seclusion; oh yeah sitting around and collecting government cheques but the odd one or two makes some neato food.

Seriously if you want to increase these problems in Poland why not invite more gypsies to come to Poland?

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

^ I'll second that.
Yesterday a girl got steamed at me for not ordering all the cold cuts I wanted at one time. It literally changed nothing as she only had to bend forward and reach to the left or right but I was having one of those rare empathetic days where I could ask myself if i'd be happy being a young woman slinging schab for meager earnings. There are also a great many Polish customers who tend to treat those in the service industry very poorly (unbelievable arrogance). I wouldn't be kissing any ass either if I knew my customers would fart the second my face got close.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

TheMan
Good effort. Thank you.

So "freedom of movement" in exchange for "shouldering colonial and industrial exploitation fallout" is what was officially proposed to those who voted on joining the E.U? That seems like a bait and switch to me.

I'm sorry but this collective guilt you refer to, I find it to be rubbish. Any suggestion that Gabor who teaches swimming down in Hungary should deal with the problems (understatement) that have resulted from multinational treachery is just nonsense to me, likewise if the same idea is pitched to Mirsław who works on cars in Lublin.

I also think we generalize far too much these days and when it comes to international politics, these generalizations turn into gross oversimplifications.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

Oh don't worry you don't have me all wrong. You may be proven right still!


Can I ask you to rewrite that but instead of inserting country names like one would use a person's name (e.g. Poland sitting at the table), try (and please do not read any sarcasm into this) using different terms?

If you're talking about a specific group of people then identify them, if you're talking about all Africans or all Europeans then identify them as such. I feel this will make it easier for me to respond because once we refer/reduce a country down to that of an individual then we lose specificity and accuracy. When you refer to Poland, I'm not sure if you mean all Poles or Poles in government or Poles who voted on joining the E.U. but not necessarily those who have come of age since then, etc. Likewise for Europe and Europeans- sorry to nitpick but such oversimplifications in terminology seem to confuse me on exactly who or what is ever being discussed.

E.g. "Pakistan is suspected of..." I think "Who is 'Pakistan? Is it a he or a she? What does this person eat for breakfast? What's their favourite colour or song?" Maybe it's just me. Anyhow I am interested in how you'd rewrite that to mean exactly who you're talking about.

*edit* based on the responses, since the time I started typing this, I can see that you're not alone in this usage. I challenge everyone to rewrite their post but instead of a country name to stand in place of an agent, try being SPECIFIC.

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]

What? I thought you're Polish, how can you know what's going on in American shops?

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

So it's their leaders? Could so many "leaders," one after another, generation after generation be so inept at ruling? It stems from 3 places: Washington; London; Vatican City. Militarily, Financially and Religiously, Western powers are ensuring that whoever lives there is f***ed. Now I ask you, how is it that you, I or any Pole has to to deal with the social fallout from that situation?

Something doesn't add up and it set my bullsh!t detector off quite some time ago.

So it's their leaders? Could so many "leaders," one after another, generation after generation be so inept at ruling? It stems from 3 places: Washington; London; Vatican City. Militarily, Financially and Religiously, Western powers are ensuring that whoever lives there is f***ed. Now I ask you, how is it that you, I or any Pole has to to deal with the social fallout from that situation?

Something doesn't add up and it set my bullsh!t detector off quite some time ago.


Well you could have left that part out thank you very much.
Yes, I benefit when I fill up with fuel. What are my choices?
I benefit when I purchase something made in a sweat shop (and I really, really pay way too much to avoid that when I can) but what are my choices? They are either nonexistent or becoming that way. It's not my choice, or your choice, it's the choice of a select few. We don't make these decisions and we have precious little influence to affect the decisions. However, it is the common citizen who deals with the fall out. It's bullsh*t. Maybe we need to riot and force politically responsible decisions to be made. But then we run into the problem of informing people about this- why isn't this a bigger story in the mainstream media? Hmmm, I wonder why...?

Life / Have many Poles had enough of one another? [198]


Look I much rather prefer the surliness you get here to the canned pleasantry in N.America but it is surliness whether you know it or not.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]


And this leads us to the final piece of the puzzle. Why do you think Africa is in such disarray? How is it that there are so many valuable resources contained in a continent so well positioned in the world and yet the people who inhabit that continent are completely unable to harness those resources without a war breaking out?

One possible answer is that Africans just don't know how to build nor function in society as we know it. If that is the case then keep the doors closed when they come knocking and knock em down if they come in. But could they really be so utterly dysfunctional within a modern society?

Another answer is that Western influence/disturbance/manipulation is ensuring they never form effective communities and certainly never harvest to their maximum potential the resources they were born into. Who's benefiting from that? You? Me? No, there are a select few who benefit from this and it's not them that has to worry about: disjointed communities; increases in violent crime; increases in drug trafficking; rubbish strewn across the streets when these people move in; affirmative action (and other idiotic social policies that pop up as a result); slum lords and other predatory renters.

Who does have to deal with that? You. Me.

If I'm wrong then I'd like to know why Africa is a dump, why India is a dump and why the Middle East is a dump?

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]


So what does that mean though? They want to do well- so does everyone. How they're willing to "do well" is another question entirely and, imo, it is the crux of the matter.

Again, everyone is willing to assimilate when they have to. When people who ethnically identify with one another can establish neighborhoods in a foreign country, that is when the whole things starts to take its headlong turn for the worst as there is less and less impetus to assimilate. E.g. London; Paris; any sizable German city.

News / Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster? [344]

"Always?"