Love / Fresh, wholesome country lass in Poland - getting married and going back to the US [167]

he sounds creepy...

let him use a real matchmaker if he wants an unknown quantity with merits only claimed.
Bet he "doesn't mind" if she cant speak English too > : (
Sounds like he wants a closet wife
(the kind you take out of other cultures of difficult language so they cant speak to the neighbor women and learn their rights)but doesnt want the normal "mail order" ethnic varieties.

He can find an "unsullied girl " in the midwest EVEN in these times. Or Start going to church more if he is looking for such. Wholesome girls are still grown everywhere, though better luck in in Wyoming, the Dakotas, Iowa rural, Kansas rural, Idaho rural.

Old fashioned traditional like I am considered are tougher each generation.

Though I am pretty sure Polish girls of last couple generations are western enough, in sizeable number, to have bypassed good cooking and household learing for education and continental tastes. >_<

LOL..military wives are notorius for letting these girls know their rights, how to keep visas if they had kids..how easy divorce is if he is a tool...and how to SHOP to DEBT!!!Woot! dadadaDADaaaa! Charge It! But most American women wil school a girl that can speak even halting english if she is not kept helpless and shy.

Nope..him having so many special order chracteristics to his "match" just makes him pervy, creepy and probably a controller. YUK

Oh and he wants that huge age difference on purpose... more kinda sleazy intent projected.
Oh and he asked a very light acquaintance on methods to pursue his agenda...Sleazy rating just uped by 20%. Again..YUK

History / Poland is a Catholic country [177]


Don't forget the Salvation Army and the St Vincent De Paul and all the religious affiliated soup kitchens, food banks; most of which are even listed in the usda site for their impact. Oh and their aid to needy families in cash, gas, clothes, shelter

..let the govt handle it ALL. they get our taxes right? And they will need more taxes for sure...
they won't turn anyone away on subsets of criteria so convoluted you have to be a lawyer to use them or homeless.. right?

Though we may not know off the cuff why Constantine elected to exempt The Church. The US Govt counted on the charity of the practicing religious long before New Dealism interupted and spread to other countries yet still left many falling thru anyway.

And it still does. And it never meant to persecute the Church or ANY religion. Taxation is destruction
The US Supreme Court confirmed this in McCulloch v. Maryland (1819) when it stated: "the power to tax involves the power to destroy."

The US Supreme Court, in a majority opinion written by Chief Justice Warren E. Burger in Walz v. Tax Commission of the City of New York, decided May 4, 1970, stated: "The exemption creates only a minimal and remote involvement between church and state, and far less than taxation of churches. It restricts the fiscal relationship between church and state, and tends to complement and reinforce the desired separation insulating each from the other."

Of course the tax expempt gone also frees the chuch from the 1954 law against intervening in political campaigns. Since the law was passed only ONE singular church has ever had status revoked for politics.

It also pulls the exemption from Wiccan Churches or the Church of Satan/Allah and wotever, They get no minority right ..all or nothing baby.

US Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren E. Burger in his majority opinion in Walz v. Tax Commission of the City of New York (1970), "The grant of a tax exemption is not sponsorship, since the government does not transfer part of its revenue to churches, but simply abstains from demanding that the church support the state. No one has ever suggested that tax exemption has converted libraries, art galleries, or hospitals into arms of the state or put employees 'on the public payroll.' There is no genuine nexus between tax exemption and establishment of religion

Of course these relate to the US positions on churches...specially in a country that was founded by people of various backgrounds and finance who wanted religious freedom, not freedom from religion

History / Poland is a Catholic country [177]

I hope everyone blessings today and for those Christian here..remember today to FOLLOW Him. : )

Life / Poland's expats' colonial mentality? [176]


LAWL..Bro that aint just Polish.
Though I would think it a holdover from time in the eastern bloc than particular to Poland alone;
to be fair getting one on the 'foreign' person is EVERYwhere.

I have lived in tourist towns (VA Beach, SanFran, and all of Sonoma Co can be that way) and all 'outsiders' get gouged. Same for Mexico unless unless one of the darker , more fluent speakers was with us.

US states will take advantage of the n00b from other State or different region. In rural areas fooling and fleecing City Slickers and Carpet Baggers is an art form. And we all know how bad somone straight off the Turnip Truck is gonna fare in NY or LA or Chi 7 out of 10 times. It is so common it is meme for comedies.

youtube.com/watch?v=3keBJ187S-0

On vacation we got fleeced (judging by flow of explecitives from father) in France, Greece and South Africa.

Life / First communion - it's that time of year again in Poland! [109]


I can go with that


have you? Altruism is not simply ANY kindness, it is to show kindness and/or put at risk your own safety for another that you have no genetic investment in.

You have SEEN an animal rescue, die for, sacrifice & care for, feed another animal that is not in its herd/pack/flock so does not share genetic material with in any degree.

And I am not sure if a mother animal under hormonal influence adopting out species counts. Even that lioness that adopted a gnu allowed another lion to eat it unpunished.


That is TROLLING.... it is illogical arguement using circular reasoning which is fallacious in nature and never ends. It is induction not deduction and can give your your point no matter which answer I give. ..you say AH HA then I am right.

I want mods to start binning trolls that ask for PROOF in every frikin philosophical debate (which usually they made off topic because they want to pole-bash, jew-bash or bash religion and basically ruin and derail a thread they dislike; the moment they argue further without providing any viable inks to "peers" themselves!!

So trying to exclude personal blogs and student thesis.................

scilogs.eu/en/blog/biology-of-religion/2009-10-17/the-burials-of-neanderthals-religion-evolved-at-least-two-times

So who is defining WHO is peers...? we also have

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_religion (granted wiki is volunteer but the biblio has plenty to sift)

news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/neanderthal-burial-ground-afterlife-110420.htm

hoopermuseum.earthsci.carleton.ca/neanderthal/n-burial.html

pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/decoding-neanderthals.html

JSTOR
Archaeological Institute of America

Smithsonian

news.discovery.com/human/evolution/neanderthal-skeleton-provides-evidence-of-interbreeding-with-humans-130327.htm

there are 5 study/priograms released recent on new dicoveries about neandrethal..who are now found not to be a parallel evolutionary dead end but actually part of our gene pool

here an atheist con theory:

smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/How-Humans-Became-Moral-Beings.html?c=y&page=1

I can find all the recent research in the world but for those just here to derail the thread and troll.... it will mean nothing. and not a finger wil be lifted to find teh same from sources equally reputable.

Now I want to put my steering cover and floor mats in the truck I bought myself today... and dinner to cook

Life / First communion - it's that time of year again in Poland! [109]


I disagree totally....

What was before neanderthal..? apes? do we really want to live in chimp society? That we know now is pretty unfair and violent?
Were hominids any earlier than that anything more than animals?

Recent research has proven neanderthals were much , much more. that they interbred with new humans , especially in Europe more than we thought. Most Europeans have 4% unique DNA inherited from Neanderthals. 80 sequences.

These mysterious non religious societies without a higher sense of self and the thought of an afterlife that is reward, what would make an parent endorse any system at all in their children instead of letting them be teh dangerous, quirky , murderous narcissits they would be without restrcitions. Why bother accepting a law?

If it was the proper way to go why didn't this mysterious non-religious peoples survive from antiquity into modern day? befor eyou claim they were all murdered bu this or that religions..say who they were..how long they lasted



You did not simply say: Morality has been with humans before religion.. (which research has said the contrary anyway. There is no proof to date of any morality before religions.) And since you made sure to say CHRISTIANITY, which is lack of neutral language

So it makes it as a target you wish to most discredit. Even though it is offshoot of Judasim.
If that as not your intent, I misread it by your wording. Sorry. Your responses are definitely milder than some here. You were just last in the line and first in the crosshair; I was not addressing you alone as much as that theme which is being bombarded into this thread and ruining its original topic.

And feel free to correct me for doubting you are merely echoing a response.I don't think anyone stated there is no morality without specifically CHRISTIANITY.

I may have missed it, but even so that is not what most of us were saying, after the topic was hijacked with uncalled for attacks on religion in general and Christians in particular. Though one can quibble that only 54% of the world follow abrahamic religions, therefore only 54% would believe religion and by default, morality come from our God, as previous mentioned.

And speaking of morality... I think it bears repeating it isn't charitable OR MORAL of any of you to come **** on on a thread that was simply lamenting the commercialization for a practice that those who attend such events hold dear..regardless of your own personal belief.

Also ethics are not morals but evolved later and do not require religion.



the point I disagree with most strongly is that there was morality before religion. And I hold there has not been morality in any society without religion or even group, though one can be ethical for societal good to degree that is new. Secular morality is new, while religious morality is not.

Religion may not have gotten sole ownership trademark on morality but it was the discoverer. Religion came first as societal glue after cooperative hunting.

Point ....was Neanderthals HAD A PRIMITIVE RELIGION,
So I can only wonder exactly who were these altruistic, virtuous non-religious societies before there was ever any religion? aliens? Ameobas? Velociraptors? you made a very broad, sweeping general statement there. Have you seriously heard or seen that isn't simply a modern person's theory and not based in anthropology or even psychology? especially as major studies are now being released that turn early 20th century assumptions on their ears as far as how primitive ancient man was not.

What morality at all has been seen in anything earlier than neanderthals? religious or otherwise?
grouping/herding/flocking together and having the major portion not kill each other is what ANY animal can do. Morality not required. Nor do they have any reason whatsoever to refrain from killing and eating their neighbors

bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12049854

Conscience and morality are only just now getting serious research and study despite the pro or con bias of the anthropologist in charge of each.

Because his one theory of group selection and altruism which he cooked to explain the veering way from his "natural selection" such as the ones that volunteer to serve in war or give their life for another...had a major parodxial flaw. Wouldn't quite fit.. so Darwin just shifted his feet and assured that humans had special place and it was the intelligence that allowed it.

We know now, if you take all of anthropology as indisputable, that modern humans and hominids in general, are not as special as we wanted to think in many things. Except religions

Greek thinkers who atheists like to quote as morality before religion, were themselves agnostic or atheists sure, yet till grew up in religious superstitious societies that had a framework they could express a freedom of different belief and not be stoned. Ironically they were the most religious societies of thier age that produced so many philosophers. They had a god /spirit/demigod for EVERYTHING. Glutus god of assscratching was prolly amongst them even. The most fierce tribes in the most remote locations still had some sort of belief system. Rome was similar except it made State religions in contrast to Greek "cults".. it was also more expanive and practicle.. often adopting the gods of other pantheons like Mithra and Osiris. every god had a useful position..lol diefic divission of labor. Romans had more festivals. they didnt mind incorporating, borrowing or swallowing other religions. and their holidays.

The most recent released study has 8 out of 10 people identify as believing in something. After Christianity and Islam; the third largest "religion is"none agnostics/athiests, Judaism is 6th.

No traditional society that is avowed atheist has been discovered to date, but if you account for possible biases of active antique anthropologists and rather grey areas between "god" and "spirit," you might be able to find a society without 'gods'. No large groups of agnostic or atheist socities POST known dates of religion in practice.

I feel safe to claim there has never ever been a society with technically nothing from the start because even if mildly fictionalized versions of real experiences -legends and folklore; are beliefs. You'd have to theorize a human society with no narration, and research would be hard pressed to find missing. something that is such a fundamental part of language.

Life / First communion - it's that time of year again in Poland! [109]


I disagree totally....

What was before neanderthal..? apes? do we really want to live in chimp society? That we know now is pretty unfair and violent?
Were hominids any earlier than that anything more than animals?

Recent research has proven neanderthals were much , much more. It is found that they interbred with new humans , especially in Europe more than we thought. Most Europeans have 4% unique DNA inherited from Neanderthals. 80 sequences.

These mysterious non religious societies without a higher sense of self and the thought of an afterlife that is reward, what would make an parent endorse any system at all in their children instead of letting them be the dangerous, quirky , murderous narcissists they would develop into without restrictions. Why bother accepting a law?

If it was the proper way to go why didn't this mysterious non-religious peoples survive from antiquity into modern day? before you claim they were all murdered by this or that religions..say who they were..how long they lasted?

Just because you are obviously anti-Christian, you and others that are of your faction rushed to post things do discredit belief and religion...
to start by entering a thread that the topic was not to be a debate on religion but a discussion of a practice within one and its sad commercialization. But you can find there has been cold hard research about humanity and beliefs.

Belief is belief. If no one ever is there to answer in the dark of death..it still doesn't change that belief in an afterlife was a major catalyst for behaving in the physical life. Mazdah, Krishna, Jehova, Christ...Santa Claus. All have affected human behavior asn more often for better -not worst . Everyone wants their littlle version of no rules but anarchy is NO rules..including murder-racism-infanticide-property seizure and the powerful enslaving or simply removing the weak/unwanted.

And before any organized religion and definitely before a schizm of a religion between tribes or zones; two humans of different types that could breed need same space. One always lost; regardless of proof of direct confrontation. There has been war/genocide/ regional ethnic cleansing of the not so advanced loser species for some time. And they were not likely done for "Great Dinoskull" or "The direcatgod!" .

cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-6068619.html
Most hominids went extinct usually in a short historical span within time of a more evolved version becoming prevalent in the area. But very old species fossils are hard to reconstruct in society or possible death. The theory that Australopithecus afarensis may actually also been killed off and assimilated by its inheritor is becoming more popular. Research is starting to point to foul play by other hominids being cause of the mass death of Lucy and her clan. One lucky ancient sub species actually almost made it to modern times unchanged... only because it was safe on an island. But inbreeding and resources finished it off instead.

Life / Why are Polish so obsessed with Russia [46]

And I return....

to a clown act; all this guest posting prolly by some banned PF trolls. This OP posts after himself rapid fire as soon as timer wears off like he is talking to another personality.

I see blanket statement "Why do Poles...etc etc?" to start thread. And not much improvement after. Which by the way if you use PF as an example of what Poles think? be sure you quote some of the few Poles here. Most are American or Brit here . With or without Polish ancestry. And using Soccer Hooligans from any country as pro/con? Oh pleeez

And Dude? Please..do NOT ever move to Arizona! We were Californicated enough by the Real Estate boom. We have equal discontent with all illegals ...notice the word meaning-NOT legal. And we do however, have special unlove for Russian nationals since we have had THREE major crime rings based from Russia in a 10 year span. A swoop operation. A med scam operation and people trafficking. Thanks! And Dem straight we:


and I don't know if I'd want to live in some anarchist state they DIDN'T do that!
And if you don't want to wear a Stetson or a pair of Ropers? you don't have to! Welcome to America! There is sizeable hip raver blotto crowd in Tempe as well as the CoEd crowd, plenty Newage fru fru gurus and weed head vegans in Sedona and sleek metrosexuals in Scottsdale. Oh and unlike San Jose? We are cool.

Even have several vehicle models named just for our suburbs. Laughlin-Navajos-Casinos-Apaches-SETI-ASU-Saguaro Catus-Gila Monsters-Scottsdale- Pony Express Run-Tuscon-Grand Canyon-Sedona-Painted Desert-Petrified Forest..and more. San Jose has ?Oh right..the Winchester Mystery house LOLOLOLOLOL !!Oh and Russian Bouncers? <_< like what kind of club goes out of way to find ethnically pure bouncers? Not one I'd frequent I'm sure.

0n a personal level? My Russian X is a tool that tried to kill me for insurance money. I loved my MIL but she would be considered a reprobate. The Russian community in NoCal is split between thugs and pious Orthodox Old Worlders. and all those Russian geniuses in Silicon valley -amazing! yet nothing famous with a Russian last name developer? Russian Investment wasn't even common until about 2 years ago. Must be the "man " keeping them down! LAWLZ

And really Texas would spray real bullets in the crowd? really?

And as a person with Roll Number I say DONT SPEAK FOR ME!


I view "nothing to see here" except another boorish self hating Pole that is unlucky enough to live in left armpit of California-San Jose (Bakersfield would be the right) and seems to hate that he can't bang underage girls when being a bad example in places he won't be caught by peers , family and friends instead of dirtying his own den. It isn't any wonder he is bitter.

You're marek28 aren't you....?

USA, Canada / Some of the major cultural differences between Poland and America? [11]

ah ..times like these you are the lucky one to have but one child ma'am ;p

USA, Canada / Some of the major cultural differences between Poland and America? [11]

Well I just found one unexpected..
I am shopping for new vehicle and have found one that is acceptable. I consider it small and barely viable.... a Ford Ranger xlt. It could ALMOST fit iside my former truck (77 GMC suburban) adn is barely bigger than my small sedan was ( 528e BMW).

So I show it to him....
"Omg what are you looking at something so large for..? I bet it barely gets *unintelligible figures in wretched metric* !"
But but it only has a six cyl and not real cab, back seats are jump seats.... I wanted a ridgline.
"Ah so american ... you want even lawnmowers to have 100 *more foreign measurement talk* " >_<

So I gave him link to a lawnmower with a V-8. I'm so trolly.
But makes me wonder:
Supposing I am in EU next year... (just theory).
I need a transport that can handle at least 3 of my family at any given moment
..so how would I move about Adult(1) 175cm/75kilo -Teen(2)180/73kilo -Teen(3)188/86 - 8yr old(4) 149/46
My economy sized kids have me scramblin for larger vehicles as it was

add disabled parent-(2b) doesn't go out often so can be switched possibly with adult child that drives.
Ideally Power chair needs vehicle that can handle it on suspension -has frame friendly to a modest tow hitch for chair trailor
Acceptable is additional trunk space for a folding wheelchair.

Oh and add eventual? DH Adult 179/70 ....and inevitable carseat that would accompany that ... AIYEeeee.

whats EU have that handles that kind of numbers ...lol

Love / My little confession hehe - I always thought polish women were ugly [57]


Nope-
not in my experience as an ethnic appearing female caucasion with auburn hair in America (except when I died my hair)


Yep..
still the norm though percentage weights slowly favor us non blondes you can see by how many pretty actresses still call for the bleach.

and define "curves"
targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=5285

though offically curves and health are supposed to be measured by waist to hip ration ..not waist to chest ^_^ we know the score

past few years Russia-particularly Ukraine wins at ..um... chest enhancers.

Facial features are definitely a personal thing.. though square faces or large noses-crooked noses are definitely not to American taste, specially in girls.

And us averge lookers have to work harder to b enoticed and removed from friend zones, as mentioned above

Language / How do Poles feel about foreigners learning their language? [105]

My experience when I ordered the chocolate telegram was positive. Though highly amused and chortling, the man was kind and patient. Even communicated to me that the english speaking employee would be in next day.

(Alas I had to find alternate way for order because my IE didn't like the site. But result -perfect)

USA, Canada / General differences between Poland and the USA? [184]


really? the food I grew up mostly with was very similar to Mexican and Portuguese dishes.. is that only American Czechs that eat spicy goulashes?

USA, Canada / General differences between Poland and the USA? [184]

UGH that is a HORRIBLE video...

not to mention on school grounds : they are videoing probably without permission and against policy and trespassing I bet

I would never have been caught dead disrepecting my self OR my school uniform doing hoochie $h1t like that!
Eh! Everytime I get a bit uptight and think my kids could be better; I see stuff like that and siiiiiigh in relief! -they are just fine. Whew!

Language / Is math in Polish different than in English? [59]

Polish Math

American Math

Hmm... maybe there is some difference

USA, Canada / General differences between Poland and the USA? [184]

We Americans are sedated- innudated- overated and heavily armed?

Seriously though... aside from the obvious multi ethnic population?

Infrastructure I would say is a big one. We had a very advanced and huge( for the time especially) roads and communication system put in "just in case of next war" to move equipment and units from East-West quickly. Engineers reshaped whole landscapes-removed mtns where they were in the way: added mtns when needed.

And the Interstate system gave birth to rapid expansion of corridor areas and a very mobile society.

Individualist tendencies written in the stone of our Constitution would be another large difference

Our domestic beer is kinderbier anywhere else

Genealogy / Do you think all Slavs are white? [178]


:(
I only wish I can deny that..however you exaggerate. 6 out of 10 would say that. and not heard that as a "saying" anywhere. Only academia woudl know such trivia

Love / wife says she is going to leave me and go back to poland with brother [3]

She sure gives a lot of ultimatums..engagement ring-marriage-etc-kids .. : (

Everytime you are here it is because she is calling the tune in a rather abusive and manipulative way (she must be a real knock out)

Even if you say "yes" -Drag her to marriage/couples counseling before you have a kid with her... ! and if she waffles-make it a Priest couselor! they have them! In fact go to one even without her. It will give you better standing if all goes south.

If you are in States I advise you file first! A lot easier to drop it than to be the one with the leftovers.

I can see where she could have some concern, if you had an understanding "wait a couple years then kids" when you got married and the time is expired. We fems do have a quicker "stay fresh " date in reproduction and you have been together seven years (+/-) .... are you guys in your 30s or something? but honestly dude."by July or else"?

And her former demands about having to be married and all... you can already see her morality/Catholic mores are when they suit her (and that goes for her brother's religious mores as well since he is not urging her to NOT accompany him) Because otherwise she would not be even talking about leaving you when you are a good provider and obviously mellow guy.

This type of gal ,as your posts are painting her; is very commonly seen in base housing (US mil). If she gets pregnant? She'll leave you anyway and GOUGE you for support.

Her behavior has little to do with just being Polish or pseudo catholic (practising catholic that need a lot more practise)

Life / Is it True that People in Poland Dislike Charity? [13]

I doubt that any "people" as a group (Americans-Brits-Poles-Chinese-Iranians-Samoans) dislike "charity", though many mistrust large private association that pay more to administrators & employees than is ever spent on relief.


LOL. Don't mistake a baptised person who is practicing and still aint got it right, with a person who is pious or believes and follows biblical tenants.

The RC Church and its associations like St Vincent De Paul still does very weighty work among the poor, concentrating on those that just need that timely leg up; and those the welfare system shuns or lets fall thru. And the Salvation Army.(Goodwill is not so willing or good for the average poor/at risk but still has some beneficial programs)

This also goes for the Mormon Deseret Industries and the Jewish Hands on (?) Sedaka (they give to other charities the trust are helping the poor to discharge their traditional religious obligation to charitable acts)

I would think the question is actually more about the times. For us in the US, the welfare-state federal programs often enacted without any true votes within the public on state level; have soured many about charity. Add scandals in big private charities to further cause distrust and dislike. In addition, the past generations have been entitled, spoiled and unaccountable. Not a recipe for humanists. Not to mention the average worker has so many hands out wanting his money, he has to slap a few away to see the beggar's palm to give alms.

And I myself would not wish to compelled or coerced to give to a "charity" I did not trust or believe in. (Which is why I am for major welfare reform even it must be erased and then set in a state to state vote (Propositions) for what it should even encompass). Nor do I want to give generously to the poor a 100% and only see them recieve 5%.

I don't give to many organized charities other than useable item donation. But since I had my first job at 9 years old (watching a general store and working the butcher counter at a trout farm); I have always, in the least annually (my father's Weiss kin traditions), chosen a person or family to assist, even when my own funds were not in my comfort range. How can I whine over what I want if the other does not even have what they need? I also volunteer my contracting skills for Habitat for Humanity and go to court as a Advocate for DV survivors (both genders) when time and location are convenient.

USA, Canada / List of Polish Communities in the Southeast of the US? [18]

You're not likely to find many obviously Polish ethnic around here for sure...
most originated as German, Irish or Scot and good portion don't even know that much about their own bloodline (though ironically the first "real" Poles I ever saw were 3rd generation kids in my local high school. They were husky, a bit dark skinned, white haired with ice eyes and bushy black brows- the whole stepstool family looked that way.)

I'm presently in the TriCounty foothills 60 miles from either Asheville or Charlotte (aka Podunk ) downsizing the amount of junk my mom has so I can move her to me in Arizona. Luckily this State has only stolen 5 years of my life in total. I can't wait to get back home. I like some things here...but nothing keeps me. Least it's cheap so I can keep my house up while renting here. Heh ...so you don't like the wheeless trans-camero collections and porch appliances..awww.

link for humor only:

For Southeast- Raliegh, as mentioned, I have heard mentioned.
There are fair size Polish communities in Florida... mostly southern FL.
Memphis, and Nashville have sizeable portion -enough to have a deli (I wasn't searching Poles at time- I was searching for Euro delis; I am huge consumer of fine sausages and pickled items. I was at Ft Lewis).

I saw a Polish store when I was stationed in Alabama..but that was quite some time ago (80s)
The farrier school I wanted to attend in WV is near several polish communities like Wheeling (I was researching nearest catholic churches)

I can't really recall very many festivals therefore a representative ethnic communities of any size in the Carolinas except fake kitschey stuff along the seaboard tourist traps. A few Celtic based ones in Ashevile and Charlotte and Raleigh/Durham, there quite a few German ones that are long running including a few Oktoberfests throughout Carolinas. And of course Native American festivals.

Maybe immigrant Poles didn't like the humid southern states much? Or good farmland was already taken and no mining? If they had similar reason as Czechs.

I believe the previous suggestion of joining a Polish club would be the best way to connect you to other AmPoles but those are places to look : )

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Really other than up north in obvious places like NY, Boston or Chicago:...where I stay clear of....brrr! you'll find some pretty big Polish (and czech) communities central like in Texas/Oklahoma then some spatter across places like Wisconsin/Nebraska. My fathers birthtown, Ennis even has a well known International Polka festival (czech origin). Festivals near Houston (polish) and Austin (Polish) as well. Texas is proud to have had the first Polish farming community (not first Polish ever -but specific community in 1854..a year before Polonia..lol)

Life / Have you wonder how to recognise a Polish person on the street? [21]

what utter trite BS... I regret clicking
So what if the guy is Polish and has right sound... the whole article is cretinous. I really didn't find it all that amusing, not as satire or teasing.

Is that a sign I am getting old? though that kind of thing actually amused me less when I was young teen. I wasn't trolly 'til a few years in the Army.

My dear fiance has not used that word in Polish or English, even in gaming, for the 2 years I've known him (though there is an explosive "Aw **** !" or soft "demmit" now and again. Once I heard him say another way of damn/koleera..combined and different tense-maybe a double demmit?).

I mean I have heard the word here and there. My russian MIL (who was a chain smoking -hard drinking -coke snorting hedonist-bless her soul) said it often. I heard my one grandpa say it a few times..like rare angry or banged head on something.. and he was American Czech

I see/hera it a lot on You tube where the person filmed likes saying it as many times as they can..like a 12 year old being naughty..........or said in string of unintelligible Polish (for me) as an adverb by hooligans....

or if attacked by an alligator

Love / English women and polish man who ran off with my life savings [22]


Agreed..it has too many conflicting premises.

I figured the next step would have been to ask for small "bits" of finance to cover search after the "find his friend" part.

The is part that got me! how can they find the friend ..or know their name when she doesn't know his name to find him or a cousin in a small town?

Of course it could be mostly true and his "mom " was not his mom at all (how would she know?). And he has a wife in small town... ^_^

and OP lost no money but simply wants to stalk the guy that bailed after she invested 5 years into him. ^_^

She has to know his real name ..how did she transfer the money otherwise? cash? 0_0 I wouldn't even do that with my X when we were married!

USA, Canada / A questionnaire about smile and laughter in the US [13]

What on earth...lol? 3 different names talking about this?

It must be a specialty subject that is required through a particular book or curriculum.
What is the chances a Polish student in 2010-Agri
a unknown non member in 2012 -Aga wanting results of the data
and a person from 2013 Delaware -Lag would be needing same data?

Since it was a person's MASTER thesis... the work would not/should not be easily accessible to simply anyone for copy/paste turn in. If the participants still even have links after 3 years.... ^_^

One might try PMing the original poster in hopes they have the same email to ping & to see if they would give you the flat data results.

Off-Topic / ING Bank and PROGRESSIVE Insurance [6]

Meh - dont like that person or her site.

Already don't/won't use Progressive (they gyped me in a serious not-my-fault accident)
And dissapointed in ING. Do they support Stormfront and Huffpost too?

Genealogy / Who are the Poles? Balts, Germanics, or Sarmo-Sycthians? [19]

I'll answer you in off topic for when we arrive there... ^_^....

Genealogy / Who are the Poles? Balts, Germanics, or Sarmo-Sycthians? [19]


Is that not the Language group ..... which is NOT one and the same with DNA?

David you were seeming to want infomation on genetic roots. No one was arguing the language group.

and a one line answer which the person was unsure of and has no data is now ACCURATE...

You don't have many of the long term Polish members answering because they have already gone over this often. There ARE threads already.
But since data is not required I shall second this:

Genealogy / Who are the Poles? Balts, Germanics, or Sarmo-Sycthians? [19]

there are more ....but Here: (and Im not being trolly no more ^_^. That website was just too much for me to resist)

https://polishforums.com/history/silesia-people-consider-themselves-silesians-64345/
https://polishforums.com/genealogy/consider-gorals-lemkos-silesians-poles-64934/
https://polishforums.com/history/upper-lower-silesians-came-62988/
https://polishforums.com/genealogy/silesians-people-german-germanic-60529/
https://polishforums.com/news/poland-germany-provoke-using-silesian-52283/

Oh and my opinon on the question? I believe in general that Polish are part of a north influenced proto-slav genetic group and shared little with ancient germanic. This is excluding any admixtures in more recent centuries with border changes, wars andn dispora caused by such.

https://polishforums.com/history/poland-decided-germany-interfere-silesia-51226/
https://polishforums.com/history/silesia-occupation-48887/

Genealogy / Who are the Poles? Balts, Germanics, or Sarmo-Sycthians? [19]

vaidilute.com? you reallydidnt check through it to see how valid it could be as a source? really? wow

My post -aside from the trolly teasing about the author of that website- is saying that your source is not likely close to valid. Welcome to PF. I don't have to live in Poland or be Lithuanian to smell a load of horseapples on a self promoting website ^_^

Or wonder why you used it as a source.
I disagree with the direction of your musings so far ...and don't feel like doing the research FOR you
I wonder why you started new threads when these subjects are already up...
hopefuly the mods will merge you to where this belongs and if they erase my post while doing so? *shrug*
I still will say you use questionable "easy" sources that you yourself are not reading through.

khazaria.com/genetics/poles.html

This may be of interest for you... a lot of dry reading but has solid data regrardless of the effeciency of the research available in their parameters


last study in list...

Genealogy / Who are the Poles? Balts, Germanics, or Sarmo-Sycthians? [19]

Did you actually read that website..? THAT for a SOURCE? OMG ROFL !

She is part of the culture I absolutely HATED about the Pacific NW. And baited mercilessly when I had the youth and inclination to. Mean but true.

I'm sure it is a source of butthert for her, being raised in Springtucky..heh! Though I'm sure her parents were thinking of safe and clean, which it hasn't had since the late 80s. She raises herself soo far above the wretched refuse of patchouli wearing, shroom smokin, "just say N2O" crowd of deadheads by virture of not doing drugs and bathing. But she also doesn't mention the simple local born boys who are simple sensible farmers and NOT inbred, working class or others who also raised to her lofty status by way of higher education. Or why her parents moved there.Or why she is so new age frou frou herself.

She's mostly homeschooled so her parents could keep her secular view of the world and the country that sheltered them.
This quote tells she is American who says she is not because she romatizes her ancestry:


Hmm..she is over 18-why hasn't she tried to change her citizenship if her parents love Lithuania so much, they must still be holding citizenship there. She has had four years to apply for the change. though it would kick her off school benefits.

and THIS one is most telling:


L-O-L all that nasty "other" history that conflicts with her imposed view of the world ..Bwahahahahhaa! And wastes her time making her well rounded for her degree.

Thanks David...I haven't had a laugh like this in ages.
When I dressed up for Ren faire? I didn't actually believe I was who I portrayed >_<

The sooner she moves to Lithuania the better.. though I notice that she plans to further her education in Oslo and not in wonderful Lithuania..LMFAO

Ugly Eugene Oregon:



or 'Beautiful" Vilnius?:

So having some red roofs makes for that much better?

And Eugene started as trading post and a lumber town on two rivers. Yet had universities early on. It is restricted in growth by nat'l parks, terrain. Hasn't had a major 'war urban renewal' to pick and choose which buildings get rebuilt, while ridding the signs of yuky industrial districts.

I mean true; I romaticize about Hussars..but I admit I surely would shudder if my man today came home burly, saber wound across the face, unbathed , unshaved for months and said "cmere baby-I missed ya" . Then couldn't perform well because he was losing breath from the injury of crushed ribs when his horse fell on him on. LOL

And I do understand that you don't fit in well when raised "Old World". I felt closest to my Czech grandparents and my Portuguese one. And maybe I would have felt more "expat " if I had been homogenous in my ancestry. I was private schooled mostly. I disliked my peers.

But I know absolutely if I moved to Czech Republic or Portugal-even I still spoke fluent? I am spoiled by infrastructure. I would feel like I was blasted back to stone age. I would have a lot of adjustment to live in EU. It is why the thought I MIGHT move there in 5-6 years has me prepping my psyche now.

Things like; used to a lot of space and a lot of stuff. I am whiney when I live in less than 1500sq ft. 2 bathrooms a must. And I love the luxury of fridge and freezer... heheh! she has some big changes ahead of her!

I know I'm teasing a lot ... but really ...using that website as source? for anything?
She doesn't even cite where she snagged that map, if it is even historically acurate. She is 22, coddled and homeschooled and just barely into a Uni and already complaining about 'their' unfair expectations for degree.

And you know what? IMO? I bet she is going to school on a grant like half of oregon does. Or worse a student loan that if she goes ot Europe, she wont repay.

Why don't you just outright say what theory you are trying to confirm david? So far with the direction of your threads, the vibe I have now is that you want to confirm that all of Silesia is ethnically German in majority and belonged once to Germany (among others) and...?

I am pretty sure there are threads here already that can give you all the information you could ever need with good bibliography reference even.

Life / Question about obnoxious drunks in some cities of Poland [15]

Hmmm... Across the street so pepper spray spritzed furtuively wont send em off. Lobbing flaming bags of ******* will eventually trace to you.

No high threat options.

Call me trolly but I'd either "join them" (as a guy) and talk about how sexy I find them and how glad I was I finally came to say hello. Even if one does swing both ways he cant admit it in front of this sort of drunk. Subtle though so they get all squeamish.

Or I'd hire non-descript teen punk to hit and run douse them with a sweet woman's perfume so the wives can stab them at home.

also find a friend with long hair of a unusual color to leave hair aound that area as part of same plan.

I guarantee a wife doing laundry will barely notice her everyday man's smell with eu de la drunk...but damn she'll notice that one red hair and the smell of someone else's perfume ^_^ I get my friends in trouble all the time for shedding in their cars or on their coats if the Mrs has't met me yet.

Heck even if only one gets stabbed .. the rest wil be nervous when they keep getting perfume bombed

:::: there is always the mormon option