News / Crash of Tu-154 at Smolensk-North--could it have been a bomb in the Polish plane? [233]


Olga,

Is it true that Polish guy who took that controversial video footage of the Polish plane crash site just got killed?

gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/04/guy-who-filmed-shots-fired-at-polish.html

This whole thing is getting wild.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]

richasis,

Every religion and group has its extremists. Christianity and Islam have radical things written in their name.

I don't believe these Talmudic writings are mainstream Jewish teachings. The Talmud was written a long time ago, about 1700 years ago. Although misguided, it was meant to keep Jews from converting to Christianity.

Its radical teachings are rejected by mainstream Judaism.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Interesting stuff. But we must always keep asking questions about this crash since on its face it seems so strange with it happening near Katyn, with a Polish president who wasn't liked by those Russians who wanted to keep silent on Katyn, ect etc.

Having said that,

What's the feeling in Poland now? Could this tragedy actually have a silver lining where relations between Poland and Russia can get better, or will this just be a temporary bonding between the Slavic nations?

On a side note, that bum Barack Obama was playing gulf today during Kacynskis' funeral.

On the top left side of drudgereport.com there is an article from a Polish paper talking about Obama playing gulf today.

What a bum.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

OK I read what skysoulmate said.

It seems this fog thing is an ambiguous thing.

Anybody can be right or wrong about it depending on what angle you look at it.

But to Skysoulmate's point, I guess fog should always be taken seriously no matter how much there is of it.

It just seems strange how that fog came and went so fast.

On another note,

Do you know if its true that the Russians told the Poles up there that they could not use their cell phones or cameras at the site?

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]


Well I don't know about that.

Cloudy skies yes. "THICK FOG"??? "SOUP"?? No.

When people tell me that there is a "THICK FOG" or "SOUP" for weather, I'm thinking you can't see 30 feet in front of you like when we had fog here in the US where I live.

You can easily see 100 feet to the crashed plane from the camera.

It seems most of the "Thick fog" or "Soup" is coming from the airplane smoke.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]


Since this airport would undoubtedly be used by foreigners for this special occasion maybe the pilot thought the airport had it.


Do you have a link to the video of the crash site showing low ceilings?

Also how long did it take for the Polish journalists to get to the crash site after the crash?

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Yes that could be.

But what I don't get is that the Russians knew this airport would be used by foreigners, especially for this occasion.

You would think they would have prepared it better, especially with the ground detecting ILC component that most airplanes equipped with this, like this plane, needed for landing.

As for this "Thick fog" thing, I find this suspect.

If you look at the pictures of the plane after it crashed, you can clearly see the plane with no "thick fog" from the camera to the plane's remains. You can also see the trees in the distance.

Also how did those Russian kids OBSERVE the plane in detail in the distance as it was crashing with all of the "THICK fog"????????????

Something doesn't add up here.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]


You raise some good questions Seanus.

I read that too where that Russian guy said "we are all at fault". Almost like he knew of some other information but was afraid to say it. He seems like an honest guy.

There is definitely a lot more to this story than what has been publicly reported.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Olga check out this NY Post article.

Poland's Tragedy Russia's Gain

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]


That's OK :)


lol could be.

So one of the guys in the distance said "Give me the gun"?

What was the voice near the camera saying?

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]


Olga I was not the one who talked about "Satanists", "Globalists", "Masons", etc who did it.
That was the author of the article who suggested it Henry Makow.
henrymakow.com/katyn_ii_-_how_satanists_say_w_1.html

I just re-posted his article.

Sorry to say my Polish is not too good.

Can you tell me what "dawaj gnata" means? What was the guy in the video saying?

So perhaps some rogue Stalinist types over there did this whole thing?

News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]

So are the Germans now going to say that the Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche who is ethnically Polish, is now ethnically German because he spoke fluent German and had relatives with German names, like they are saying about Copernicus?

Outside of Germany/Germanic areas, Poles historically understood German culture and spoke German more then anyone else.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Well actually I didn't say I heard anything.

I just posted the article from HenryMakow.
henrymakow.com/katyn_ii_-_how_satanists_say_w_1.html

I only made brief comments at the end.

If people disagree with the article, that's fine.

I heard that the Poles who had camera's and cell phone camera's, who were already up there waiting for the plane, were told by the Russians not to use them after the plane crash.

Is that true?

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Harry,

I'm not saying I believe or don't believe this.

Just something I found.

News / Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom? [921]

Gun Shots at Polish Crash Site
...

Yesterday, this video appeared on youtube. This is really shocking. You can hear 4 shots there, at the end, there are Polish words - "Change of Plans."


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henrymakow.com/katyn_ii_-_how_satanists_say_w_1.html

I'm not saying I believe everything Henry Makow says here, but it is very interesting.

I wonder what other people think about this?

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]

You're right ZIMMY.

You tell em!

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Really????????

Little ol me MediaWatch from the US is being invited to the Moscow parade next month??

Well..... um.....I don't know what to say!! LOL

Oh no no that certainly isn't nothing :D

That's lots and lots and lots lol

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


Oh yeah Harry the Poles should have "manned up" "and kicked the arse" of the superpower Nuclear armed Soviet Union and got themselves killed.

A lot of tough talk from somebody behind a computer who would never in a thousand life times have the balls to do anything like that.

What next Harry, are you going to say Jews should have manned up and kicked the asses of the Nazis?

And I haven't been "lying about not being invited to parades" or trying to go to any parades as you say. I live in America and you don't even know me lol

And who cares about these silly parades.

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]

Harry with that kind of answer that proves to me you have NEVER read an ethnic Jewish paper. Read Jewish newspapers like "Forward" or "The Jewish Press"

The "Jewish Press" ethnic newspaper SPECIFICALLY talks about Jewish claims against Poland and that "time is running out" for Poland to "compensate Jews".

Read some ethnic Jewish newspapers Harry. See it for yourself.

Everything in those newspapers is about "Polish this" and "Jewish that".

History / Why are Jews pestering Poland for "proper" WW2 monetary restitution/reparations? [750]


What?

Why don't those nations that destroyed Poland compensate Poland for the interest of justice of humanity? If we're going to go down that road.

Poland lost 1/3 of its land in WWII, millions of its citizens including 3 million non-Jews, and Poland saw the two nations that destroyed Poland built into powerhouses by either foreign help, Marshall Plan for Germany, or in the case of Russia because of all the slave nations forced to give tribute to Moscow that Moscow owned as compensation for its help in fighting Hitler.

Because of tons of sympathetic Newspaper, Radio and movie imagery of suffering Jews during and after WWII, the World powers set up Israel for Jews (which I support) and since 1948 US "aid" and German guilt money have been going into the Israeli treasury to compensate the Jewish people. That combined amount of money must be over a Trillion dollars if you adjust for interest and inflation. Not to mention continuous sympathy for Jews for decades after Israel was born.

What did Poland get? Just mass lies about how those "terrible Poles" should compensate Jews because Poland is a "terrible anti-semitic country" even though for ONE THOUSAND YEARS most Jews CHOSE to live in Poland.

Also as a person of Polish descent who grew up in America, there have been Jews on this forum telling me that "I AM NOT REALLY POLISH". They say I am American since most of my family and myself were born in America. Technically they are correct!!! I am American first and foremost!

So WHY do we keep hearing about "Jewish claims for compensation" from Poland today? Since Jews have lived in Poland for ONE THOUSAND YEARS, shouldn't they be considered to be POLES and NOT JEWS??

News / Interactive German-Polish Map [19]


You would be surprised how much Polish suffering as well as the many positive things Polish people have done that has been surpressed by left-wing and right wing historians, not to mention the mass media.

The fact that Poland was basically a slave of other countries from 1939-1990 as well as from 1795-1917, much of Polish history has been distorted or surpressed (if it was positive about Poland).

A perfect example of how Poland's enemies were able to define Poles is the infamous big lie about "Polish horses attacking Nazi German tanks". A BIG LIE if there ever was one that took on a life of its own. But is was difficult for Poland to defend itself against this big lie (meant to defame Poland) and other big lies, because Poland's institutions were destroyed and held down by those countries occupying Poland from 1939-1990. So that big lie and so many others about Poland were repeated and repeated and repeated and repeated WITHOUT Poland being able to defend itself against them.

The Soviet Union naturally wanted the world to think negative things about Poland from 1945-1990 so that there was little world sympathy about Soviet occupation and suppression of Poland.

History / Actually, there never was any Polish-German hatred [149]

I agree with you lesser.

I don't know about overseas but here in the US, Polish Americans generally like their fellow Slavic Americans including Russian Americans despite tensions between Russia and Poland in the past.

Heck, Polish Americans even generally get along fine with German Americans despite past tensions between Poland and Germany. That's the nice thing about being American I guess. Since Americans of Polish, Russian and German ancestry are proud of being AMERICAN FIRST, they can look at the good and the bad of their ancestral history together in a more level headed manner.

God bless America. And God bless everyone during this Easter season :)

History / Actually, there never was any Polish-German hatred [149]


Sounds good to me.

At least its a nice gesture for this Easter time of year :)

History / Why did Hitler kill so many Jews in Poland? [261]


Yeah that "Polish-Anti-Semitism" must of been the reason why Jews CHOSE to LIVE in Poland for ONE THOUSAND YEARS.

"Polish Anti-Semitism" is the reason why Poland was a MAGNET for Jews for so many years.

Jews CHOSE to LIVE in Poland for ONE THOUSAND YEARS because of all that "Polish Anti-Semitism" LOL

I guess Jews are either idiots or masochists LOL

Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]


As I said before, some of the "All in the Family" shows actually potrayed the Polish character positively. But those were token shows. I don't think the Polish character's chronic unemployment and inability to provide for a separate house for he and his wife Gloria to live in made him look intelligent.

How many middle age men are living with their wives at their parent's house for a long period of time without being seen as inept stupid losers??

Also, you probably didn't see the shows where the Polish character had food drooling out of his mouth hunched over at the dinner table and Archie looks at him in disgust and says "Just look at what a dumb Polack you are". And of course the audience laughs along WITH Archie Bunker.

Its interesting how when people talk about the Polish character "Michael Stivic" they always refer to him as "the meathead Polack" or the "Dumb Polack" of the show.

The many times when I talk to people who remember the show, I have never heard them describe Michael Stivic as "the guy unfairly ridiculed as being a dumb Polack". I never heard that once.

It was also common for people, especially more impressionable young kids, to say to Polish Americans the next day after watching "All in the Family": So why are you Polacks so dumb?? "Why are you Polish people such meatheads?"

Non-Poles would also have conversations among themselves in front of Polish Americans saying "I'm SO GLAD Archie gave it to that DUMB POLACK last night!" "He was acting SO DUMB!" "What MEATHEADS those Polacks are!"

Oh yes that "Archie Bunker Show" was just so pro-Polish! LOL

Life / COMBATING "POLACK" JOKES [460]


No the original Polish jokes in the US were along the lines of Poles being stubborn Kielbasa eaters, eating too much Peirogi, etc.

The Jokes against Poles you reference are the subhuman intelligence jokes about Polish people which were introduced and saturated into the American public in the 1960's and 1970's by Hollywood and the TV networks like NBC-TV.

Polish American friends and relatives I know said they never heard the subhuman intelligence jokes about Poles until the 1960's. Gee I wonder why. LOL

The interesting thing to note is that people in the US in the 1960's and 70's, who did NOT KNOW any Polish people were telling Polish jokes and claiming that they felt Polish Americans/Polish people are stupid and should be treated as such. When these people were asked "WELL how can you feel that Polish people are stupid WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW ANY??? Their response in so many words was: "OH I SEE THE GUYS ON TV TELLING POLISH JOKES SO I GUESS POLISH PEOPLE CAN'T BE SMART".

Also is it ANY COINCIDENCE that in the 60's and 70's, people in the US were ridiculing their fellow Polish Americans with the same so called Polish joke, or anti-Polish sound byte that they heard on TV the night before???? What does that say???

As for people saying that there were plenty of Jewish jokes, that's true. But they generally were pretty mild as far as tearing down the image of Jewish people since many of those Jewish Jokes were told by Jews. They never dared, and understandably so, told jokes that degraded Jews as being "rats" "ugly" or "parasites" "evil blood suckers" which was popular in Nazi propaganda (and still popular among some people today).

But the same type of subhuman intelligence jokes against Polish people, told by the Nazis (and even in Hilter's speeches) was perfectly fine for Hollywood/media "entertainers" for some reason. Evidently they felt, as long as they didn't tell the US public the Nazi propaganda origin of these subhuman intelligence jokes about Poles, it will be OK. Which is quite ironic since many of these media bigots telling anti-Polish jokes were the first to cry and whine about what the Nazis did to Non-Poles.

News / Hollywood's War with Poland. [150]

asik

Truth be told, Rupert Murdoch's media empire, although not perfect, is probably the least anti-Polish of media, albeit I haven't seen every newspaper, movie, etc that comes from his NewsCorp company across the world.

In the US, one of is New York Post columnists actually spoke out against Anti-Polish slurs in some of his columns.

In the Fox show "Back to You" the producers apologized for some anti-Polish comments about Poles in WWII that were in the show.

There is good and bad in all media elements.

The leftist media have been the most problematic for Poles.

News / Hollywood's War with Poland. [150]


So you think Bratwurstboy would enjoy seeing his Germans repeatedly picking their noses in a movie and then having the other characters in the movie mock those Germans?

Bratwurstboy told me he would rather see his Germans being shown as evil then being dumb/having inferior intelligence. Although I don't think the German people following Hitler like robots was so smart, but that's another story for another time.

So for the record Grunwald, you have no problem with a movie repeatedly showing Germans picking their noses in front of people and seeing others ridicule them? Among many other things.

News / Hollywood's War with Poland. [150]


What class you have lol

Yes yes Poles pick their noses and do all types of terrible things according to Pole-haters/Germans like you.

Poles started Aids, they victimized poor Adolf, they are rude, they have bad manners, they are ugly, they are dirty, did I miss something?

News / Hollywood's War with Poland. [150]

In and of itself its no big deal. But its part of a pattern of things FOR F's sake. I will not use the F word like you.

As for Inglorious Basterds its based on what the Germans did in WWII and a reaction to it by some Jews. No?

So what's the big deal? Is Hollywood making up what happened in WWII? Do you think the Nazis were innocent?