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mafketis   
8 Feb 2010
USA, Canada / REFUSED A HOLIDAY VISA TO THE U.S CAUSE IM POLISH [323]

Basically, the opinion of all those who have a real voice in making decision in the US are in favor of widespread illegal immigration (for different reasons).

Most American voters are not, and would, I'm sure, drastically reduce all immigration if they had a say in the question, but they don't.
mafketis   
6 Feb 2010
USA, Canada / REFUSED A HOLIDAY VISA TO THE U.S CAUSE IM POLISH [323]

the fact is that our media is full of discussions about illegal immigrants in our country.

But strangely, the only thing ever really done is that they're given amnesty. Find me a national politician, in a position to get something done, who's not into amnesty or any kind of immigration 'reform' that doesn't involve mass importation of third worlders.

As some might say, the US government has elected a new people and the current population realizes they've been voted off the island.
mafketis   
6 Feb 2010
USA, Canada / REFUSED A HOLIDAY VISA TO THE U.S CAUSE IM POLISH [323]

When you have a visa and it expires, go back. Don't overstay, it's illegal and that's what causes this visa issue for Poland.
But you will never understand...

For the howmanyeth time I'll ask: What makes you think the US government cares about illegal immigration? All the evidence I can find, would indicate the government doesn't care at all. The public might care, but the ruling class in the US is actively in favor of illegal immigration.

The overstaying the visa issue (while valid, yes, an honest person leaves when their visa ends) is just an excuse for a policy that has its origins elsewhere.
mafketis   
29 Jan 2010
Life / Do expats living in Poland speak Polish? [233]

I think it's safe to say that Poland is completely ignoring this law in practice -

Without looking at the original, I don't know. I'm pretty sure the law doesn't say that government authorities have to speak in however many languages and I would imagine having printed materials and some form letters in EU languages should be enough for 98 % or more of all cases, especially since IME the government doesn't care anymore about EU citizens living in Poland.

And, of course, it doesn't apply to non-EU citizens.
mafketis   
28 Jan 2010
Life / What is going on in Polish Music [128]

A song Polish people should like more than they do:



bonus: pre-fame Kayah, a backing vocalist at the time.
mafketis   
28 Jan 2010
Life / Do expats living in Poland speak Polish? [233]

most certainly:
That's the main page of The Consulate General of the Republic of Poland in Chicago, written entirely in Polish. You can click on the USA flag for English, but Polish is given priority.

Uh ...... you do realize the Consulate General of the Republic of Poland in Chicago is not an arm of the US government don't you? Don't you?

You also realize the main purpose of most consulates is providing services for citizens of the consulate's country who happen to be in the host country, don't you? Please, tell me, yes, for the love of God, PLEASE!!!! you know that and the above is just a very subtle joke...
mafketis   
28 Jan 2010
Language / Can you recognise the nationality of foreign Polish speakers by their accent? [43]

I've been mistaken for Polish in short interactions (believe me, it doesn't last long). The longest that lasted was in an American consulate where the (Polish) person in charge mistook me for a Pole trying to get a visa instead of an American needing information for my visa to stay in Poland. I've usually been mistaken for German(?) or Czech(!) when they realize I'm not Polish. No one's ever realized I was American (with no Polish roots at all!) until I tell them. I don't have an American r at all in Polish and most of my mistakes are plausible and occasionally the kind that Polish people use. The biggest tipoff is my general inability to produce the Polish l in final position I usually say angiełski (in old-fashioned stage pronunciation). and I make my fair share of mistakes with sz ś (and other similar pairs so that I say I'm combin my hair when I mean I'm glad).

I've also been surprised how many (educated) Poles can tell where Polish people are from by their speech alone. The standard has almost completely replaced dialects. The most that most Polish people can discern is whether a speaker is from a city or the countryside IME.

English people can usually easily recognise the origins of non native and even native speakers ( to within approx 50km with native speakers ).

Americans can't. The dialect situation is completely different and most Americans have trouble placing people by accent. One reason is the rise of the SAE "from nowhere" accent. But IME Americans fail in locating people by accent in all but the most exaggerated, stereotypical cases.

I'm hopeless with British accents, I can tell RP-ish (or Estuary) from other kinds, can vaguely tell the difference between Scotland and everything else and sometimes between Northern and Southern English but markers that are crystal clear for Brits mean nothing to me.
mafketis   
28 Jan 2010
Life / Do expats living in Poland speak Polish? [233]

you cross the border into Poland and you want residency......you have 90 days to do so before your travel visa expires.....and in that time, you're supposed to march into all necessary Polish offices and take care of business.....IN POLISH?

I think it makes perfect sense. If you arrive in Poland and don't:

- know any Polish people willing to help you out by going to the office with you a time or two,

- have anyone from your workplace willing to do the same,

- have the resources to hire an interpreter.

- have a representative from a charitable organization to help you

then chances are there's no way they'll allow you to stay because you don't have a job or connections or resources. For someone like that, all they really need to do is hand them the wirtten form telling them to get out of the country (in whatever language, when I was still dealing with the foreigners office on a regular basis they had written materials in a couple dozen languages).
mafketis   
28 Jan 2010
Food / Polish culinary dislikes [83]

I'm doomed to be forever misunderstood on this thread. I make a distinction between grilling which both Poles and Americans do (I think Poles generally do better) and BBQ which is different from grilling and which Americans do but Polish people don't.

I love BBQ of almost any kind (exception: awfu shredded stuff with mayonaise-y sauce in one of the Carolinas). In my experience Polish peole don't like BBQ much (I think the sauce is the deal breaker, whether the meat is cooked with it or it's applied separately).
mafketis   
28 Jan 2010
Food / Where can I buy chickpeas in Poland? [10]

As a rule Polish people doesn't (sic) eat chickpeas or garbanzos (as I call them) very often.

You can sometimes find them in large supermarkets, or if you're in a large city they might have them at a Kuchnia Świata store or a specialty store specializing in middle eastern foods.

In Polish they are called : ciecierzyca (singular) ciecierzyce (plural)
mafketis   
27 Jan 2010
Language / Usage rules of ł in the Polish language [30]

By who? That sounds very awkward and unidiomatic in English imo.

A term I've heard before (by linguists) is the "barred L". I prefer that since it describes the letter better (all letters are made with strokes).
mafketis   
26 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

Well, nauczycielu, you and Harry seem made for each other.

In related news, Polish functionaries are not necessarily aware of all the technical details of the regulations they enforce and are _really_ not likely to react well to you trying to tell them what the law is, especially if you're not able to do so in the right way (which includes but is not limited to: in Polish).

Do what you want, but unless your Polish and people skills are up to snuff (wild guess: they aren't) you're in for a bunch o' hassles. Even if you can eventually get out of them they're liable to take up more time than you'd like.

Good luck.
mafketis   
26 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

Back to the old 'can't deal with the facts so attack the messenger' line eh?

Take away the Harryhype (registered trademark) and the facts are these:

- a couple of years ago, an official or two of the Polish government made some unfortunate comments about possible policy towards medical treatment of foreigners

- nothing happened, no legislation was passed and this policy was never acted on.

I can handle that just fine thank you, you're the one with his knickers in a twist about it.
mafketis   
26 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

I don't know about that. IME Germans expect residents to learn German, period. I knew someone who learned more German in 2 years in Berlin than in 5 in Poland, and he said that was because he had to, he got more language support in Poland than in Germany.

Also, IME Scandinavians expect long term residents to learn the local language and don't like those who don't. They might all speak English, but they do tht for their own reasons (which don't include relieving long term residents of the necessity to learn the local language).

Someone who's been stationed by an English speaking company and who socializes only with the expat crowd and co-workers might not find much pressure to assimilate, but who wants to live like that?
mafketis   
26 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

I don't know how Poles define it, I think of it as any stay that's measured in months or years. After a few weeks you should be starting to learn. I've known foreigners who've become competent in everyday (more than everyday survival) Polish in 6 months or so (not devoting their whole time to it either). The endings were often mangled, but it was understandable and functional.

If you give it an honest effort it's not as difficult as its reputation suggests.
mafketis   
26 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

I'd just like to see a bit of reciprocity. Or at least to not hear so much "You're in Poland so you have to learn Polish".

What's wrong with expecting long term residents to learn Polish?

And I repeat, some government posturing (regretable as it may be) from over two years ago is not germaine to this discussion. Especially since, as you apparently now admit, it has never actually been acted on and there is no legislative basis to act upon it.

Why do you have to make up arguments?
mafketis   
25 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

about Poland considering it perfectly acceptable to deport ill British people while Poles in Britain receive medical treatment

I'd like a site for this actually happening, I did look up the current (AFAIK) regulations and there's no mention of it.

There's a couple year old story up at that font of truth, the Daily Mail that talks about threats, but no concrete cases.

I googled for a few minutes without finding anything but couldn't find any trace of any real cases. At that point I assumed you'd just made it up and wouldn't mind if I let the matter drop. But now I won't. Please give me specifics of British citizens deported from Poland because of health reasons.
mafketis   
25 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

Harry's version of logic: Because a few Polish traffic signs have been put up in areas in Britain with a lot of Polish speakers, eveyrone in Poland should be made to speak English with English speakers.
mafketis   
25 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

when Poles going to other countries clearly don't feel the need to learn those languages?

Have you ever read about a Polish person saying they don't need to learn the language of countries they live in? Such people are heavily criticised in the Polish press and by their compatriots and none of them are proud of not learning the local language (the way I've encountered some Brits who are actually proud of not speaking Polish even after years of living here).

And again, why should Polish language policy be linked to British language policy?
mafketis   
25 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

Poles living in the UK are clearly not expected to learn English, hence some British road signs being in Polish.

So ... Polish policy should be determined by British policy? I don't get it. Please explain what your point is.
mafketis   
25 Jan 2010
Law / Polish Cop Took My Car Registration :S [143]

When I've been to spain i tried to speak to people in Spanish in order to practice for my spanish exam and people simply spoke to me in English.

Your Spanish must really suck donkeys. I've never had trouble getting people in Spain to speak Spanish (and my Spanish is really rusty and not a thing of beauty).

All the below are countries where English is an official language.

Note that Poland is not on said list. Long term residents in Poland need to learn Polish and speak it when appropriate and not expect their shortcomings to be catered to by everyone they encounter.
mafketis   
20 Jan 2010
Life / Do expats living in Poland speak Polish? [233]

Chipmunk,

First rule of Poland. (actuall second, the first is 'rules are made to be broken') Anyway, don't take things personally. Polish manners are different from American practice (you seem American, I don't know if you are). Just because someone yells at you, doiesn't mean they don't/won't like you. Poles aren't much into suffering in silence. Speak up in whatever language you can.

(asking if people speak English is kind of insulting or rubbing salt in the wounds of those who don't since those who do speak English spend a lot of time trying to make the rest of their compatriots feel stupid - stop doing that, just ask what you want and if they can't find anyone who speaks english then shrug your shoulders and leave)

Second, it's very often impossible to be polite in two cultures at once. You can be polite in your native culture and (possibly) offend people here, or you can adapt to local practices while feeling rude. Your choice. Which is more important to you a) getting what you want b) being in the right according to your own culture's rules. Usually in Poland you're not going to have both.

Third, the nice think about my first point is you can yell back when you get frustrated and people won't get very upset (even if they return the yelling with more yelling). If anything they'll like you better as someone who stands their ground and doesn't give up (Polish people generally like determined people and don't have much use for wishy washy people).
mafketis   
15 Jan 2010
Language / Too many English words in the Polish language! [709]

I attached he says the Greek word for winter is something like 'khimona"... couldn't this be the root of zimno?

not sure, according to my source, the Greek word can be transliterated cheimonas, with ch roughly as in German ich, ei = Polish i and accent on the o (written with omega instead of omicron). It's a masculine word.

for purposes of historical reconstruction, the n in zimno doesn't count as it's an adjective ending (not sure what if anything the n in the Greek example does).

I also notice Greek choma for ziemia, so there just might be a connection between initial Greek ch and Polish soft z or it could well be coincidence (I'd say it's a 50/50 chance either way).
mafketis   
14 Jan 2010
News / Poland rejects H1N1 vaccine [28]

It's a good thing the Polish government rejected the phoney baloney vaccine. This is the first, and maybe only, time I've agreed with Kopacz.

globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16667
mafketis   
14 Jan 2010
Genealogy / What is a scultetus/soltys in Poland? [15]

Very roughly, a sołtys fucntions roughly like the mayor of a small village.

Different legal and governmental traditions between the US (and different parts of the US) and Poland mean that there is no precise equivalent for lots of administrative terms and offices but 'mayor of a (small) village' is close enough, without actually studying the structure of various layers of local government in Poland (which I can't imagine you'd want to do).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schultheiss
mafketis   
13 Jan 2010
Food / Liqueurs in Poznań [8]

The larger Piotr and Pawel stores (like os. Kopernika and Stary Browar) also have good selections.