strzyga
29 Nov 2011
strzyga
29 Nov 2011
Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]
:D
Pam, you really have a knack for picking up proper everyday speech. It clearly works for you. I really enjoy the Polish intrusions in your posts.
Get a book if you want, but don't worry too much about absorbing everything at once. Just use it whenever you feel you need to get something straight.
I really think it's much easier to work with Polish grammar when you already have a stock of phrases and sentences memorized. Then the grammar begins to make sense. It certainly doesn't to a beginner.
The Polish internet or youtube could work wonders for you.
Gumishu's lecture is great and very, very comprehensive, but it might give you shivers so it's best to treat it as a source of reference for the future.
piekarnik, most,pociag, albo noz....boze!
:D
Pam, you really have a knack for picking up proper everyday speech. It clearly works for you. I really enjoy the Polish intrusions in your posts.
Get a book if you want, but don't worry too much about absorbing everything at once. Just use it whenever you feel you need to get something straight.
I really think it's much easier to work with Polish grammar when you already have a stock of phrases and sentences memorized. Then the grammar begins to make sense. It certainly doesn't to a beginner.
The Polish internet or youtube could work wonders for you.
Gumishu's lecture is great and very, very comprehensive, but it might give you shivers so it's best to treat it as a source of reference for the future.
strzyga
27 Nov 2011
strzyga
27 Nov 2011
News / Poland please don't give up your hard won democracy to the EU. Or give up the zloty! [24]
That was just constitution. We'd had democratically elected kings long before that.
Really and I thought the good old USA was the oldest democracy in the world followed by Poland number two.
That was just constitution. We'd had democratically elected kings long before that.
strzyga
27 Nov 2011
Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]
What can I do for you, Pam? :)
It seems you're learning to communicate in Polish in the most natural way - the same each of us acquired our native language. If it works for you (and I see it does), then it's fine, you don't need to know the cases' names in order to be able to use them.
This way of learning has its limitations but you might be able to communicate quite freely before you hit the wall, so where's the problem?
If you feel like buying a book and studying grammar, by all means do it, but if you prefer spending the time on conversations with your Polish friends, you'll probably gain even more so don't feel bad about it. Books will always be out there, they can wait till you've got nothing better to do.
Cheers :)
my polish friends and lokator understand me, therefore maybe its not too bad! strzyga na pomoc!!
What can I do for you, Pam? :)
It seems you're learning to communicate in Polish in the most natural way - the same each of us acquired our native language. If it works for you (and I see it does), then it's fine, you don't need to know the cases' names in order to be able to use them.
This way of learning has its limitations but you might be able to communicate quite freely before you hit the wall, so where's the problem?
If you feel like buying a book and studying grammar, by all means do it, but if you prefer spending the time on conversations with your Polish friends, you'll probably gain even more so don't feel bad about it. Books will always be out there, they can wait till you've got nothing better to do.
Cheers :)
strzyga
25 Nov 2011
Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]
verbs are tough, take a lot of practice.
20% - not great!
verbs are tough, take a lot of practice.
strzyga
25 Nov 2011
Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]
bierzesz
śpi
śpię
ok
idziecie
śpisz
ok but you used jechać, not iść
ok
myje się
ok
spotykam tego mężczyznę
spotykam
spotykamy się ze znajomymi
spotykam
spotyka się z
1. (ty) bierzasz kredyt na dom? (brac).
bierzesz
2. On zawsze bardzo krótko śpie - tylko 5 - 6 godzin. (spać).
śpi
3. W niedzielę zawsze (ja) śpi do dziesiątej. (spać).
śpię
4. W weekend (my) jedziemy na wyciezkę do Zakopanego. (jechać).
ok
5. (Wy) Idiecie dzisiaj z nami do kina? (iść).
idziecie
6. Do której godziny (ty) spicie w sobotę. (spac).
śpisz
7. Pan Wojek jedzie jutro na konferencę do Zzczencina. (isc).
ok but you used jechać, not iść
8. Jutro (ja) idę do muzeum. (isc).
ok
9. Andrzej mili się zawsze bardzo dlugo. (myć się).
myje się
10. Czy (wy) bierzecie kredyt na samochód? (brac).
ok
1. Często (ja) spotkam się z tego mężczyznę w parku.
spotykam tego mężczyznę
2. Nigdy cię nie (ja) spotykać na uniwersytecie! Nie studiujesz już.
spotykam
3. W piąki zawsze (my) spotkamy się z snajomymi w kluie.
spotykamy się ze znajomymi
4. Wiem, że Agata pracuje w centrum, bo często ją tam spotkytać.
spotykam
5. Czy Andrzej często spotka się Anią.
spotyka się z
strzyga
25 Nov 2011
Travel / How expensive is it to live in Poland in one week? [28]
Students are a special breed, able to survive on 2 packets of instant noodles or 2 beers a day and without many goods most people deem necessary. They have some discounts, help each other out and some of them have parents who support them if not with extra money then with extra food. Anyway, with 500 zł a month you're just able to survive if you know some useful tricks.
Students live on 500 pln per month in Krakow.
Students are a special breed, able to survive on 2 packets of instant noodles or 2 beers a day and without many goods most people deem necessary. They have some discounts, help each other out and some of them have parents who support them if not with extra money then with extra food. Anyway, with 500 zł a month you're just able to survive if you know some useful tricks.
strzyga
25 Nov 2011
strzyga
25 Nov 2011
Travel / How expensive is it to live in Poland in one week? [28]
Are you talking about coming here just for a week or a week of regular living?
In the first case, yes, if you don't eat out but buy groceries and prepare your own meals. Then it's possible. But no socialising, unless it's one beer or so.
If it's about all expenses of everyday living, then no,it's not enough, even excluding the bills.
Could someone please tell me, is 100 Zloty sufficient to live for a week in poland.
Are you talking about coming here just for a week or a week of regular living?
In the first case, yes, if you don't eat out but buy groceries and prepare your own meals. Then it's possible. But no socialising, unless it's one beer or so.
If it's about all expenses of everyday living, then no,it's not enough, even excluding the bills.
strzyga
25 Nov 2011
Language / Biernik czy narzędnik (Accusative or Instrumental) [65]
ofc it's Locative, not Instrumental, sorry, but you'd know it anyway :)
mówimy / śpiewamy / piszemy / myślimy o kawie, matce, książce - we're talking/singing/writing/thinking about... - Instrumental
ofc it's Locative, not Instrumental, sorry, but you'd know it anyway :)
strzyga
24 Nov 2011
Language / Biernik czy narzędnik (Accusative or Instrumental) [65]
As others have already told you, it should be wysokiego mężczyznę and polskie piwo, the rest is fine.
Mężczyzna ends with -a but is masculine (as kolega) and piwo ends with -o so is neuter.
Seems that's a different o, like there are two kinds of z.
In English that would be, relatively, for and about:
proszę / walczę / staram się o kawę, sukces, uczucie - I'm asking for / fighting for / striving for... - Acc.
mówimy / śpiewamy / piszemy / myślimy o kawie, matce, książce - we're talking/singing/writing/thinking about... - Instrumental
As others have already told you, it should be wysokiego mężczyznę and polskie piwo, the rest is fine.
Mężczyzna ends with -a but is masculine (as kolega) and piwo ends with -o so is neuter.
Lyzko: "Proszę o (małą) kawę.", nieprawda?After o why don't you use locative. eg. mówimy o kawie.? We are talking about coffee.
Seems that's a different o, like there are two kinds of z.
In English that would be, relatively, for and about:
proszę / walczę / staram się o kawę, sukces, uczucie - I'm asking for / fighting for / striving for... - Acc.
mówimy / śpiewamy / piszemy / myślimy o kawie, matce, książce - we're talking/singing/writing/thinking about... - Instrumental
strzyga
21 Nov 2011
Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]
I'm not RD, but here are some examples: piec, biec, strzec, strzyc, wlec, tłuc, móc.
No one spotted that mistake so I must intervene. ReservoirDog could you give me examples of Polish verbs' infinitives which end with "c"? It's always "ć"!
I'm not RD, but here are some examples: piec, biec, strzec, strzyc, wlec, tłuc, móc.
strzyga
21 Nov 2011
Language / 'lubię, lubisz' - Infinitive [86]
Ona lubi słuchać muzyki.
Czy wy lubicie słuchać muzyki?
You've got two verbs here. Just conjugate the first one and leave the second one alone. The first one (lubić) does the job, takes endings and so on. The second one does nothing, regardless of the person it remains in the same form - infinitive (słuchać).
The infinitive in Polish always ends with c or ć. It's the basic form of a verb, before you start to conjugate it. This is the form you can find in a dictionary.
If you look at the English sentences:
I like to read
He likes to read
We'd like to read
you can see the same principle in action: two verbs (to like and to read), the first one is conjugated (like, likes), the second one remains in the basic form (to read).
In essence, when do I use the verb in full - as in the first example (słychac), or słychacie, or (chodzic) or (chodzi) last example.
Ona lubi słuchać muzyki.
Czy wy lubicie słuchać muzyki?
You've got two verbs here. Just conjugate the first one and leave the second one alone. The first one (lubić) does the job, takes endings and so on. The second one does nothing, regardless of the person it remains in the same form - infinitive (słuchać).
The infinitive in Polish always ends with c or ć. It's the basic form of a verb, before you start to conjugate it. This is the form you can find in a dictionary.
If you look at the English sentences:
I like to read
He likes to read
We'd like to read
you can see the same principle in action: two verbs (to like and to read), the first one is conjugated (like, likes), the second one remains in the basic form (to read).
strzyga
20 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
More abuse and still no arguments. I remember you wanting to shoot people, now it's burning with napalm. If you have an anger management problem, go see a therapist, I've no time for that. Ignored.
And your point is ?
More abuse and still no arguments. I remember you wanting to shoot people, now it's burning with napalm. If you have an anger management problem, go see a therapist, I've no time for that. Ignored.
strzyga
20 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
yep. The inventor of the glorious method. Although he used sunflower seeds, IIRC.
All abuses and no content at all. Try harder, if you want to be taken seriously by anybody. Or go to the Radom Abuse thread and don't come back.
Onufry!!!
yep. The inventor of the glorious method. Although he used sunflower seeds, IIRC.
I'm not going to waste my time on you Mr racjonalista its radical leftist anti-polish site and whoever finds that site reasonably balanced is full of shite and only discussion with you can be with a little help of napalm.
All abuses and no content at all. Try harder, if you want to be taken seriously by anybody. Or go to the Radom Abuse thread and don't come back.
strzyga
20 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
Seanus, have you ever seen a drunk admit that he's drunk?
Or maybe they do admit it in Scotland?
Not in Poland though. It's written in our national code of behaviour. I'm surprised you don't know it yet.
Oleum, jako lżejsze, idzie do głowy?
I am also drinking hard tonight but I am still perfectly sober. :):):):):)
. Come on, pawian, that sentence didn't make sense ;)
Seanus, have you ever seen a drunk admit that he's drunk?
Or maybe they do admit it in Scotland?
Not in Poland though. It's written in our national code of behaviour. I'm surprised you don't know it yet.
Whenever I go an a drinking spree, I eat a few tins of sardines before the binge.
Oleum, jako lżejsze, idzie do głowy?
strzyga
20 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
yeah, I haven't noticed you've explained it before.
A fair one, methinks. Definitely a step in the right direction.
yeah, I haven't noticed you've explained it before.
Tusk seems to have made a good decision here.
A fair one, methinks. Definitely a step in the right direction.
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Po polsku / Co potrafią zaśpiewać Polacy? [15]
Sokoły mają coś w sobie. Ja to zawsze śpiewam jadąc samochodem, gdy zaczynam być śpiąca. Dobrze niesie i ożywia.
Sokoły mają coś w sobie. Ja to zawsze śpiewam jadąc samochodem, gdy zaczynam być śpiąca. Dobrze niesie i ożywia.
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
As nobody's bothered to answer the simple question so far, I'll try to. The priests who teach religion at schools and those who work as chaplains with the army, at hospitals etc. get regular salaries from the state. Those who stay at parishes, are supported by the faithful - they collect money during mass, for funerals, weddings etc. and get a salary out of this money, it's controlled by the curia.
Tusk's announcement was not about taxing the salaries but about pension and health service contributions (ZUS), which to date have been covered by the Church Fund (Fundacja Kościelna), established in 1950 as compensation for the lands and property taken from the Church by the state. Since 1990, the Church has been recovering the lost property or its equivalents and the Fund during this time has been financed solely by the state budget. So Tusk now aims to liquidate the Fund, and the priests would have to pay the ZUS contributions by themselves, or the curias would have to cover it.
The CC is not opposing the idea. They say they're ready to work out new solutions.
So priests are paid by the state then?
As nobody's bothered to answer the simple question so far, I'll try to. The priests who teach religion at schools and those who work as chaplains with the army, at hospitals etc. get regular salaries from the state. Those who stay at parishes, are supported by the faithful - they collect money during mass, for funerals, weddings etc. and get a salary out of this money, it's controlled by the curia.
Tusk's announcement was not about taxing the salaries but about pension and health service contributions (ZUS), which to date have been covered by the Church Fund (Fundacja Kościelna), established in 1950 as compensation for the lands and property taken from the Church by the state. Since 1990, the Church has been recovering the lost property or its equivalents and the Fund during this time has been financed solely by the state budget. So Tusk now aims to liquidate the Fund, and the priests would have to pay the ZUS contributions by themselves, or the curias would have to cover it.
The CC is not opposing the idea. They say they're ready to work out new solutions.
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
yes it has :)
nie wiem - as this is information concerning RD (I don't have the information, I'm not aware of RD's gender).
nie znam! (or umiem/potrofię)*has this gone full circle?* :-)
yes it has :)
nie wiem - as this is information concerning RD (I don't have the information, I'm not aware of RD's gender).
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
It's not a mistake strictly speaking - it's understandable but doesn't sound natural, no Pole would say "zawsze próbuję" in this context.
"Próbuję" is rather timid, "staram się" sounds more positive and I think that's what you need :)
It's not a mistake strictly speaking - it's understandable but doesn't sound natural, no Pole would say "zawsze próbuję" in this context.
"Próbuję" is rather timid, "staram się" sounds more positive and I think that's what you need :)
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
a cookie for putting ja in the parentheses!
but it's better to say: staram się!
:)
a cookie for putting ja in the parentheses!
but it's better to say: staram się!
:)
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
what a kerfuffle ;P
so now let's get it straight:
I know you are male.
But is ReservoirDog female?
what a kerfuffle ;P
so now let's get it straight:
I know you are male.
But is ReservoirDog female?
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
look under "kartofle" - this is called a visual translation ;)
kerfuffle ... :-/I have no idea :D
look under "kartofle" - this is called a visual translation ;)
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
USA, Canada / Going back to the Old Country of Poland after more than 25 years! (from USA) [249]
the picture looks a bit like a mosque :)
has the needle always been there?
the picture looks a bit like a mosque :)
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
Really, there's nothing wrong with "umieć", it's just a regular word. The advice ReservoirD is giving you sounds like "never use can in English as it sounds infantile, use be able to" - might be just some idiosyncrasy of his.
Really, there's nothing wrong with "umieć", it's just a regular word. The advice ReservoirD is giving you sounds like "never use can in English as it sounds infantile, use be able to" - might be just some idiosyncrasy of his.
strzyga
19 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
XD
Listen to me and use "potrafię" ;)
XD
strzyga
18 Nov 2011
Language / Wiedzieć,Umieć and Znać When does one use the verb(s)? [30]
???? why don't you like it?
potrafię is more pompous
"Umiem" is sh.t. word, better to say "potrafię" :)
???? why don't you like it?
potrafię is more pompous
strzyga
18 Nov 2011
Po polsku / Co potrafią zaśpiewać Polacy? [15]
Majteczki w kropeczki, ho ho ho ho? Ale to chyba na weselach...
Zagadka - jaką tradycyjną piosenkę uwielbiają śpiewać Polacy na wakacyjnych potancówkach?
Majteczki w kropeczki, ho ho ho ho? Ale to chyba na weselach...