Ironside
21 Nov 2011
Ironside
21 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
bingo, culturally they aren't Polish.
culturally
bingo, culturally they aren't Polish.
Ironside
21 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
get a life stupid.
good!!!!!
Are you for real John ?
You must be kidding I took you for a smart guy!
All abuses and no content at all.
get a life stupid.
Ignored.
good!!!!!
Would Jesus have wanted the RCC to be a for-profit organisation?
Are you for real John ?
You must be kidding I took you for a smart guy!
Ironside
20 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
Nope, their are not! Do you really want to go into definitions of who is Polish or who is not?
Why are you diverting discussion from priests in Poland to some mythical sums you seems to know much about?
Even if the RCC have some sums it doesn't effect priests in Poland and their financial standings.
As you well know the RCC is world wide organization with the Vatican, and they have a many dealings and issues, are you surprised that they have money as well ?
I'm not and do not see point in perusing that line.
I would be much more interested in the east-coast establishment that made fortunes on Poland and Poles after 1989,also Poland's so called busy-men with fortunes too big for their own good.
And your point is ? You have nothing to say and nobody is taking you seriously anyway.
I don't care what I sound like to you. I'm done with you. Go and enjoy that anti-polish site full of shyte !
For readers unfamiliar with the issue discussed:
So called racjonaliści can claim whatever they want it doesn't make it so, they are in fact what I said their are.
Ironside:
anti-polish
They ARE Polish. As far as I know, all of them.
anti-polish
They ARE Polish. As far as I know, all of them.
Nope, their are not! Do you really want to go into definitions of who is Polish or who is not?
I-S, there are ways and means of getting hold of such figures but my point is that there is almost always an undisclosed sum. The RCC didn't get rich purely from donations from your regular church-goer. How did their coffers get so deep?
Why are you diverting discussion from priests in Poland to some mythical sums you seems to know much about?
Even if the RCC have some sums it doesn't effect priests in Poland and their financial standings.
As you well know the RCC is world wide organization with the Vatican, and they have a many dealings and issues, are you surprised that they have money as well ?
I'm not and do not see point in perusing that line.
I would be much more interested in the east-coast establishment that made fortunes on Poland and Poles after 1989,also Poland's so called busy-men with fortunes too big for their own good.
All abuses and no content at all. Try harder, if you want to be taken seriously by anybody. Or go to the Radom Abuse thread and don't come back.
And your point is ? You have nothing to say and nobody is taking you seriously anyway.
But they are NOWHERE close to your description of them as a "leftist anti-polish site". You sound like a little sick lazy puppy, who does not care about facts but yet who loves voicing his opinions nevertheless.
I don't care what I sound like to you. I'm done with you. Go and enjoy that anti-polish site full of shyte !
For readers unfamiliar with the issue discussed:
So called racjonaliści can claim whatever they want it doesn't make it so, they are in fact what I said their are.
Ironside
20 Nov 2011
Po polsku / Co potrafią zaśpiewać Polacy? [15]
typowe...
Nie znasz sie na jakosci i kulturze.
Co za skansen
typowe...
Nie znasz sie na jakosci i kulturze.
Ironside
20 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
Well, not surprising, hateful dumb **** !
Do not ask me about details, I just summarized a big article from Racjonalista.
Well, not surprising, hateful dumb **** !
Ironside
19 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
mainly peeps, they pay for weddings, funerals and such, there is also monies collected during mass but thats suppose to be for maintenances of church and such.
If a priest is working at school he is getting pay like other teachers and he have to pass all required curses for teachers - and yes then he is paid by gov like other teachers.
:)
iron, who is paying them then?
mainly peeps, they pay for weddings, funerals and such, there is also monies collected during mass but thats suppose to be for maintenances of church and such.
If a priest is working at school he is getting pay like other teachers and he have to pass all required curses for teachers - and yes then he is paid by gov like other teachers.
:)
Ironside
19 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
Can you kindly take a notice of the thread topic, there is nothing about RCC in Germany.
Also, the way they are finance the RCC in Germany differ from those of the RCC in Poland.
Notice that circumstances in Germany and Poland are different.
To answer the OP question - no they are not and they pay taxes too.
Where they paid by the gov in Ireland?
is but one of many links. Religion is a tool and banks buy into it. It is a lever for them to manipulate. Banks are most clearly supplicants.
Can you kindly take a notice of the thread topic, there is nothing about RCC in Germany.
Also, the way they are finance the RCC in Germany differ from those of the RCC in Poland.
Notice that circumstances in Germany and Poland are different.
To answer the OP question - no they are not and they pay taxes too.
I'm not suggesting anything - I'm asking.
Where they paid by the gov in Ireland?
Ironside
19 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
Are they ? thats a news for me,,,could you elaborate ?
I-S, check as many sources as you want. Priests are on the payroll of prominent banker
Are they ? thats a news for me,,,could you elaborate ?
Ironside
19 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
John with all due respect you are talking rubbish!
Yep I do ! you are suggesting that their are paid by gov because their are priests - thats not true!
I think that a good exercise for you would be try to live for a while without salary.
was referrring to their salary payment. They have strong backing by bankers btw. Why? Due to the ability of a priest to hold a group together and steer them. They are an invaluable asset to the banking industry as priests can control people.
John with all due respect you are talking rubbish!
So priests are paid by the state then? definitely? Is anyone disputing this?
Yep I do ! you are suggesting that their are paid by gov because their are priests - thats not true!
I was referrring to their salary payment.
I think that a good exercise for you would be try to live for a while without salary.
Ironside
19 Nov 2011
News / Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland. [86]
Nope,
Ask bankers !
What deductions ? Priests even those who doesn't work at school pay taxes - if somebody say something different - its lie.
do you have f.e. obligatory taxes for church in poland in your income tax? like in germany?
Nope,
so why bring money into the equation?
Ask bankers !
I don't have a problem with tax deductions for religious orders,
What deductions ? Priests even those who doesn't work at school pay taxes - if somebody say something different - its lie.
Ironside
19 Nov 2011
News / Polish Independence Day-Beware? [59]
Provocation with an active involvement of Polish gov.
In fact those so called riots were only a sideshow of the Independence March.
Provocation with an active involvement of Polish gov.
In fact those so called riots were only a sideshow of the Independence March.
Ironside
14 Nov 2011
USA, Canada / Going back to the Old Country of Poland after more than 25 years! (from USA) [249]
Most of the old town was rebuild by Poles after WWII. so I guess is Polish architecture now, yes?
The town hall in Wroclaw is German architecture and not Polish, no?
Most of the old town was rebuild by Poles after WWII. so I guess is Polish architecture now, yes?
Ironside
14 Nov 2011
USA, Canada / Moved back from Canada to Poland:). Here are the reasons why. [868]
talking about your hubby ?
Boys are sucky babies in this country.
talking about your hubby ?
Ironside
11 Nov 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]
You mean they are never wrong ?
You mean they are never wrong ?
Ironside
11 Nov 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]
Have you got medical degree as well Sean?
Have you got medical degree as well Sean?
Ironside
9 Nov 2011
Life / The Blame Game (Have you ever noticed that a Polish person is never wrong!?) [205]
Is that to be supposedly an Polish triad ?
Come on...
I understand what you mean! I have met one particular "never wrong", a Polish girl I worked with.
Is that to be supposedly an Polish triad ?
Come on...
Ironside
5 Nov 2011
Ironside
4 Nov 2011
News / Monument gets erected when a clique rules in a small Polish town [29]
Blabbering again are you?
You sure that your little machine works right?
Never heard of them, probably some gov funds sponges.Who cares except for GW and its sheepish readers.
Have they been afraid that their participation in exhibition would have had unpleasant consequences for them?
Whats wrong with that? He presented his views. Do you find it blasphemous in some strange and twisted way?
You can dish out but you cannot take it eh?
This "bust affair" was an example of unfair, or even scandalous, appropriation of public space.
Blabbering again are you?
You sure that your little machine works right?
Krzysztof M. Bednarski
Marcin Berdyszak
Hubert Czerepok
Ryszard Grzyb
Józef Robakowski
Aleksandra Ska
Marek Wasilewski
Marcin Berdyszak
Hubert Czerepok
Ryszard Grzyb
Józef Robakowski
Aleksandra Ska
Marek Wasilewski
Never heard of them, probably some gov funds sponges.Who cares except for GW and its sheepish readers.
We do not want our participation in this exhibition to be understand as a support for the views expressed by the curator.
Have they been afraid that their participation in exhibition would have had unpleasant consequences for them?
I belong to a group of suspicious beings. I believe in the theory about the assassination, that most pessimistic scenario. The Toruń's exhibition wishes to show the scale of anger that was born after April the 10th - to present that it is still alive. You can of course discuss whether I am right. I encourage you to do so.
Whats wrong with that? He presented his views. Do you find it blasphemous in some strange and twisted way?
You can dish out but you cannot take it eh?
Ironside
4 Nov 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
Lets better foucus on Poland's beloved leader Tusk, his gov and this plans for Poland for foreseeable future.
Whats that would be ?
Lets better foucus on Poland's beloved leader Tusk, his gov and this plans for Poland for foreseeable future.
Whats that would be ?
Ironside
3 Nov 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
Aren't you obsessed with your version of truth in history and seeing racism in every shadow.
have with truth in history and racism.
Aren't you obsessed with your version of truth in history and seeing racism in every shadow.
Ironside
3 Nov 2011
UK, Ireland / Is moving to UK now a good idea? - antipolish prejudice of the Brits [231]
cheap shot and one I expected.
busted
cheap shot and one I expected.
busted
Ironside
2 Nov 2011
UK, Ireland / Is moving to UK now a good idea? - antipolish prejudice of the Brits [231]
I don't think that somebody seriously thinks along the line - you (UK) screwed Poland during WWII and now you own me - job, benefits, gold watch ....!
What Poles may say facing hostility of hosts who do not care and have no clue about much - is we have a right to this or that!
Meaning we are not criminals or illegals, those rights were given to us by the UK government. You have a problem with that ? Go and tell that to Cameron.
Easy for you to say - when have you been invaded lately ? lest see ...just a blink ago 1066 eh?
When you have been in serious possibility of invasion on your own soil - twice in 1806 and in 1941.
Drastic eh?
Poland had not been given chance to recover not from internal strife but from external enemies.
the word powers united against Poland in 1939 is not a joke its reality that bites.
How long have you cried about few bombed cities ?get real and get a grip man!
he problem is, a lot of recent immigrants (and PF posters) really do seem to think that the UK owes Poland something...
I don't think that somebody seriously thinks along the line - you (UK) screwed Poland during WWII and now you own me - job, benefits, gold watch ....!
What Poles may say facing hostility of hosts who do not care and have no clue about much - is we have a right to this or that!
Meaning we are not criminals or illegals, those rights were given to us by the UK government. You have a problem with that ? Go and tell that to Cameron.
You should have tried harder then,simple really.
Easy for you to say - when have you been invaded lately ? lest see ...just a blink ago 1066 eh?
When you have been in serious possibility of invasion on your own soil - twice in 1806 and in 1941.
Drastic eh?
Poland had not been given chance to recover not from internal strife but from external enemies.
the word powers united against Poland in 1939 is not a joke its reality that bites.
How long have you cried about few bombed cities ?get real and get a grip man!
Ironside
2 Nov 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
its been pay off and opportunity to few, doesn't mean that it was right thing to do !
They were in power for like what? - three years - and they should be able to fix all wrongs in Poland while PO cannot even build few motorways on time for four years.
Oh, hang on - they're in the pocket of the trade unions, who just so happened to benefit handsomely from the breakup.
its been pay off and opportunity to few, doesn't mean that it was right thing to do !
Perhaps ask yourself why PiS didn't do anything about it while they were in power
They were in power for like what? - three years - and they should be able to fix all wrongs in Poland while PO cannot even build few motorways on time for four years.
Ironside
1 Nov 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
Poland lead by great and competent PO's gov and Tusk a fact that he abuses his wife is only to his advantage, a cool dude (according to pawian).
Happy hours !
A new great joke:
Nobody really knows if this money has already been spent or if it is still on accounts.
Poland lead by great and competent PO's gov and Tusk a fact that he abuses his wife is only to his advantage, a cool dude (according to pawian).
Happy hours !
Ironside
1 Nov 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
Right, nobody knows, thats money and public money they should known exactly their numbers and gov should too. Why they spend fortunes on office jobs what are those people doing spreading pro PO propaganda ?
Thats money baboon, not your pay paid in peanuts.
Why do you think that I'm supporting PiS? Is that because you are supporting PO?
Why do you think there is some many firms instead of one PKP ? All those firms which grew miraculously on public property and each have to generate monies for their offices and owners and staff.
Its no business its robbery.
Comparing unions to that is funny, it shows that you are biased.
Unions just see clearly whats going on and show them bastards F U!
What intelligent people ?
him ? :D
boletus are you having boner while writing here all that insubstantial stuff ?congratulation ......and you lost hope.:)
Nobody really knows if this money has already been spent or if it is still on accounts.
Right, nobody knows, thats money and public money they should known exactly their numbers and gov should too. Why they spend fortunes on office jobs what are those people doing spreading pro PO propaganda ?
Thats money baboon, not your pay paid in peanuts.
Why are you such a bad publicist for PiS?
Why do you think that I'm supporting PiS? Is that because you are supporting PO?
But for starters - why does Przewozy Regionalne need 3 ticket checkers on every train?
Why do you think there is some many firms instead of one PKP ? All those firms which grew miraculously on public property and each have to generate monies for their offices and owners and staff.
Its no business its robbery.
Comparing unions to that is funny, it shows that you are biased.
Unions just see clearly whats going on and show them bastards F U!
that intelligent people will believe their BS.
What intelligent people ?
So, to win, you must change yourself. For the sake of the Law and Justice, and under the leadership of Jarosław Kaczynski. Ot i
wszystko."
wszystko."
him ? :D
boletus are you having boner while writing here all that insubstantial stuff ?congratulation ......and you lost hope.:)
Ironside
1 Nov 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
If you are for real then you have a long way ahead of you to understand whats whats in Poland:)
And blaming Tusk and PO when PKP Grupa SA is still very much in the hands of lazy moustaches is deceitful at best.
If you are for real then you have a long way ahead of you to understand whats whats in Poland:)
Ironside
1 Nov 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
rynek-kolejowy.pl/27559/27559_Rzad_odda_Unii_5_mld_zl.htm
rynek-kolejowy.pl/27559/27559_Rzad_odda_Unii_5_mld_zl.htm
Ironside
31 Oct 2011
News / GERMANS WANT TO GERMANIZE KOPERNIK (COPERNICUS)! OUTRAGE! [1016]
Where this silly idea of your have taken roots ?
Gdańsk was funded by the Duke of Poland in early 980's.Important center for Piast dynasty, Germans could be there at the time as slaves.
And Copernicus was Polish in the sense that he was loyal subject of the Polish Crown. This quest for his ethnic DNA is not only stupid but also pointless and racist - you lot should be ashamed of yourselves.
I-S (He was Polish in spiritual; and cultural sense of the word.)
but the Baltic's the Baltic. And Gdansk is Danzig.
Where this silly idea of your have taken roots ?
Gdańsk was funded by the Duke of Poland in early 980's.Important center for Piast dynasty, Germans could be there at the time as slaves.
And Copernicus was Polish in the sense that he was loyal subject of the Polish Crown. This quest for his ethnic DNA is not only stupid but also pointless and racist - you lot should be ashamed of yourselves.
I-S (He was Polish in spiritual; and cultural sense of the word.)
Ironside
31 Oct 2011
News / Poland Parliament elections in October 2011 [944]
Typical, you waste time on unimportant scrambles while ignoring the fact that Poland will have to pay penalty to EU, namely 5 billions euro folly of Tusk's gov.
Ziobro is planning to create his own party
Typical, you waste time on unimportant scrambles while ignoring the fact that Poland will have to pay penalty to EU, namely 5 billions euro folly of Tusk's gov.