Life / Poland, maybe the world's last bastion of faith [67]

I agree with that and there is much self-righteousness in such people. My family in Poland are Christians but don't feel compelled to go to church. They are not self-righteous folk at all.

Life / Poland, maybe the world's last bastion of faith [67]

They don't feel real kinship with their fellow parishioners?? What do you mean? How can you tell?

Life / Poland, maybe the world's last bastion of faith [67]

I could take you up on quite a few things but I won't. It's good that Christian values are upheld here and I like your positive sentiments. Are you a Christian yourself? If so, may I ask the denomination!?

History / Warsaw Uprising - The Forgotten Soldiers [117]

vimeo.com/8350695, video of David Jakubowski, Polish Army captain in Warsaw and Holocaust survivor. This man is a great source of info.

Life / Polish pride. PL stickers, flags and the white eagle! Where does our obsession come from? [79]

I don't like the words 'have to' :)

Life / Polish pride. PL stickers, flags and the white eagle! Where does our obsession come from? [79]

Bzibby was being sarcastic here, I feel. Wasn't that clear?

Life / Polish pride. PL stickers, flags and the white eagle! Where does our obsession come from? [79]

They won't live here because they have set up shop elsewhere, delph. Are you proud to be Scottish? Will you be going back there to stay?

History / Today is the 1st of September (WWII start in Poland) [138]

What happened to the Dutch, M-G? ;) ;)

History / Today is the 1st of September (WWII start in Poland) [138]

Did you expect anything less, southern?

History / Today is the 1st of September (WWII start in Poland) [138]

Surrendered? They were onboard with the Nazis through people like Ante Pavelić, southern. They welcomed the Nazis in.

History / Today is the 1st of September (WWII start in Poland) [138]

Why on Earth would they be pro-German given what the Germans had done to them over the years? It doesn't make any sense, M-G.

History / Today is the 1st of September (WWII start in Poland) [138]

WB, hardly anybody was a man of their word in those times of broken international agreements. It was all about maneuvering and taking steps that could be taken.

Crow, just curious. What prevented Serbia from sending troops up to Poland to help out in the WWII cause?

News / Crash of Tu-154 at Smolensk-North--could it have been a bomb in the Polish plane? [233]

interesting for those that can read Polish.

It concerns heights and statements made, inter alia.

Life / Polish pride. PL stickers, flags and the white eagle! Where does our obsession come from? [79]

Bzibby, you just can't compare different times. Go to the glens of Scotland and you won't see battles anymore. I don't need to fight but my fellow countrymen did all those years ago and that brings pride.

Polish pride comes through a sense of shared values and ID. Plastic Poles are welcome to join in on that ;)

History / Poles organized the first strike in US in 1619 [72]

CK, please do some reading on the Polish Constitution and then we'll talk, ok?

History / Poles organized the first strike in US in 1619 [72]

Please read Joel Feinberg, CK. Read up on civil disobedience and its legitimacy.

CK, that was amongst the most naive comments I have ever read.

History / Poles organized the first strike in US in 1619 [72]

Poland is one of the foremost defenders of European values. Not only have they defended their own corner over the years but they have also fought battles that meant sth in the broader context of Europe.

The Poles are people of principle and will fight til the last :)

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

We are all led to conclusions based on available and selected data, M-G. I dare say that you are highly accurate in the case of those that you have traced but we are dealing with telephone book figures when it comes to others. Why would Nazis want to maintain accurate records of their 'prizes', M-G?

History has taught us the legal maxim of 'res noviter veniens ad notitiam'. Stories emerge, to varying degrees of credibility, but I really believe that films have, in their propensity towards exaggeration and hyperbole, distorted accounts to a material extent. Documented accounts vary significantly as to number and nature too.

All in all, we are led back to the humanitarian position that it was an abominable operation that was callous and inhumane in the extreme. Laymen need know no more!

David Irving has made it his life's work so who am I to refute him to any degree of cogency? I wasn't lousy in historical studies but I wasn't any great shakes either.

Seanus (humble in his ineptitude here)

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

Well, he did challenge those that doubted him to prove him wrong and nobody has cogently done it so far. I'm not saying he is right, M-G, just that many haven't stepped up to the plate.

He does seem to doubt the sincerity of multiple witness statements but he is very thorough in his research at the same time. You must admit, M-G, in the absence of an effective and dependable recording system (as we alluded to above), people will conjecture, fire in the dark and distort according to whatever interests and agendas they are serving.

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

Fine, present evidence that David Irving has unearthed in an academic setting but don't launch straight into jokes at the expense of those that lost their lives in Treblinka and elsewhere. As I've said to yehudi, M-G, I really don't know enough Jews to comment but that is neither here not there when it comes to Treblinka, Auschwitz and Daschau.

The taking of innocent life is wholly unjust wherever you are!

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

The premium one is the best as the name would suggest :)

The midrange and low-end beers are ok here. Kasztelane and another beginning with K got me interested in the whole pasteurised/unpasteurised thing. One is and the other isn't. It turns out that unpasteurised fits the Polish model better as it doesn't last for that long (like the bread) but tastes better.

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

I think I saw sth akin to that too, Wrocław. VERY disingenuous to throw together a haphazard list rather than anybody actually doing sth about it. When will people ever learn, life is life and not a tick in some box. I just have the awful image of a doctor coming in and asking the Nazis for details of what they had done.

M-G, my sincerest condolences for your loss(es)!!! I guess you pulled a few strings to get what you needed in terms of info. I'd've done the same.

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

Nah, it's really crisp. Trust me, I've tried beer from all over the world. I've been in 21 countries and have tried at least one beer from those countries. Also, I've tried beer from many countries I haven't been to. I can safely say that Goolman has the crispness of many more expensive ones I have tried.

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

£omza is very good too. Perhaps the unsung hero of Polish beers. Have you tried Goolman Premium, McCoy?

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

M-G, that was the biggest problem. To the Nazis, they were indiscriminate killings and not to be recorded but wiped from the face of the Earth. I went to Auschwitz and listened in on the details and methods of killing but Treblinka is known only to me by name and some sparse coverage in my History course at secondary school.

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

How about you, Wrocław, do you know of any victims? I just can't see how this discussion can take off without treading on toes or upsetting people.

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

Really? Aha, I forgot that you have Jewish roots. My apologies for the oversight. I know now why my parents-in-law's German relatives had such a guilt-ridden conscience. He refused to join the SS Wehrmachten and didn't want to see Poles or Jews die for nothing. Such trying times!

Sorry, M-G, I've only recently jumped onto this thread and have only read a few comments.

Food / What's your favorite Polish beer? [870]

Żubr represents great value for a 6% beer. However, Perła Premium is lighter and crisper. They are both really good!

History / In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland [104]

I did come across it, M-G, yes. However, I had read before that sth was up regarding the financing of the madman.

Wrocław, what more can be said than, 'I pay my respects to those that needlessly lost their lives'? I don't think anyone here has relatives that perished there but the tales don't make for good reading.

Travel / Hospitality, Scenery, Food, Clean Streets: My POSITIVE experiences in Poland (!) [39]

Some eggs here are really tasty :) Turkey is good, that's true enough! Do you have a steak joint up in Wrocław, WB?