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Ironside   
20 Apr 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Yeah, yeah, heard that many times from you. Fact is, only you and several more fanatics believe this.

Wishful thinking eh?son
Ironside   
20 Apr 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

But not, however, a majority identifying as Poles.

Neither were Lithuanian!! Anyway at the time that would be subject of the Crown, not Poles !

Those circumstances are two neighbouring countries with some shared history who are both in the EU. If the UK and Ireland can get on without rancour, so can Poland and Lithuania.

I don't care about shared history they do not respect it much and change it to suit their fantasies. I care about Poles in this supposedly EU country. Yet nobody is doing anything about that.

I would like to know why ?

Grateful to Poland? Protected Lithuania?

Clutching at straw ? Get real ! Without Poland your Duchy wouldn't had lasted a decade! I really wish that Poland choose Piast from Warsaw as a King.

However wishful thinking and past misgivings are not important here. The facts and history is as it is and in that Poland supported the Grand Duchy very existence.

Few huts? By middle 14th century, Vilnius already was a big city and a capital.

eh? figuratively speaking, a big city ? I see you are speaking figuratively also.
The point is Wilno started to develop when Poland and Duchy enjoyed peace and trade, not before !

Which is nothing but a propaganda

We already heard your lies. Fact in 1930' that wouldn't be called discrimination but we have 2012 .

There were no poles until late 16th century.

Is that is extract from the Fairy Stories you call the Lithuanian history books. hahah!
Ironside   
19 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

I believe there is no need for this debate to go any further.

Yes run away as you have lost that debate. You simply have no arguments and you know that. I'm the one being rational and reasonable.

Who would vote for these cretins?

not him !

sad-wizerunek-mordercy-z-biura-pis-jawny-to-ryszard-cyba
Ironside   
19 Apr 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

And not as many Poles either.

Noticeable community already.

The way to defend a group of people is not to attack the territorial integrity and even the very capital of the country they are in.

Generally speaking you are right but here we are faced with specific circumstances and very specific attitudes.
Ironside   
19 Apr 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

I should think the Vilnius of Kazimierz Jagiellonczyk wasn't exactly Dubai.

No there were only few muslim!

ou mean the decision of what was at that time the lawful government of Lithuania with the assent of the lawful government of Poland.

You should reconsider your understanding of lawful because as it stands now you are contesting the Novembers Tribunal.

Mind you, perhaps you have a point.

I miss your point here ! We are talking about discrimination against minority in Lithuania. I would think that for once you would agree with me but obviously few Poles aren't noble enough minority to be defended.
Ironside   
19 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

It's you who are reinventing his words, you are making **** up

Do I? I remember how triumphantly those words were spoken and repeated, now you want to give them a new meaning,pathetic.

Besides Polish/Russian relations are not dependent on Poland, they are dependent on Russia.

Really ? Why Tusk and his cronies were crying foul and denouncing policy of late president to resist Russian atempt at subjugate Georgia as worsening relations with Russia. Surly those relation depend on Russia according to you, the only course of action left is to bend backwoods for them, still according to you, are you saying that what Tusk's government is doing, is that your

diplomacy

in action ? I would say that is a plain and simple case of treason if that what you say is true.

Obviously PIS must think that Russia is fantastic since they trust Russia more than the Polish government.

It even doesn't means anything!?

recent headline: "PiS to pożyteczni idioci Moskwy" I couldn't have put it better myself even if i tried.

Yes you are an idiot without effort, I grand you that, it is a gift.I admit that you are a very gifted individual.

Anybody who is an impartial observer can clearly see that I refuted every one of your claims

Really ? Give me an impartial observer any-time and we can rock ! So far I refute your refute as a futile factual fallacy !

ou are making no sense,

To be sure what happened with the plane experts need black box and wreckage. You said yourself that Russian cannot be trusted and impede ..et..

Why are you so coy?

Because you are shoot yourself in the foot every second post and you don't even notice it,

Ah why they got the black box in the first place eh?
(Chicago Convention) \

What not to understand, Poland should be in possession of the black box and wreckage in the first place and investigation should be done by Poles, it was our Presidential plane, according to Chicago Convention there is no question about it ? So why Russia got it all and refunds to hand it over ? I think that you have already given an answer here simple Tusk and his government are bending backwoods to accommodate them !

Why not be open instead masking yourself in a lie,

What lie ? Are you sane ?

do you believe that smolensk was an accident or do you agree with your leader that it was an assassination?

I belief in God and I have no leader. You mistake me for your kind, gang of nobody's!

o what is it an accident or an assassination?

I don't know and I would like to find out but I can see that I can count on the Polish government to clarify that issue in the same degree I can count on the Russian government to do it.

Sad really.
Ironside   
18 Apr 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Go get some history book and read when was Vilnius founded

Who cares about few huts in the forest. I'm talking real town, son.

That isn't any basis for today's borders.

The only basics for today's border was the Stalin's decision !
Ironside   
18 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Well some lame excuses and then one post with nothing but personal abuse!
Seems to me that you have no arguments except for repeating the line of PO propaganda and lies.

They have the transcripts, and are on record saying that the black boxes are not necessary to the investigation.

Ah really ? Russian are to be trusted just because you say so and only with the crash investigation thingy?Other than that you cannot trust them at all.

Strange that Russian needed the black box,then. they could content themselves with transcript. :D
Ah why they got the black box in the first place eh?
(Chicago Convention) \

Didn't you mother teach you that lying is a sin? Tusk said no such thing, he only said that Polish/Russian relations have been the best they had been for a very long time-big difference. It also happens to be true.

BS! He said what he said reinventing his words - nice!He was boasting that his government is so good at diplomacy and he said what he said.

Don't use words meaning of which are vague for you like true or the true !

Polish/Russian relation have been good when Yeltisn had been president.
night!
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

In the same way the Poles should be grateful to the Germans.

I'm laughing now :D well actually is a quite sad, !

by Grand Duke Gediminas befo

In the medieval times there were no one capital, there were few castles used by a ruler. Wilno as a town and a city is an creation Polish and Lithuanian union.

Kazimerz Jagielonczyk made Wilno into his capital.

the Lithuanian STATE

There were not Lithuanian state but Grand Duchy of Lithuania a country multi-ethnic from the start to the end! Ethnic ( as you understand them today) Lithuanians were always minority.

So Poland is not a foreign country to a Lithuanian because everyone knows we are EXACTLY the same in every shape and form, language, culture, tradition, genetics it is all exactly the same.

No because constitutions from 1791 accepted by both deputies and senators from the Crown and Grand Duchy of Lithuania made from Poland and Lithuania a one country !

The territory included Vilnius, the historical capital of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Let that sink in :)

Keep it but give all right and privileges to the Poles living there or your chauvinistic, narrow-minded and annoying attitude will cost

your

historical capital. Warsaw population 3mln people Lithuanian about 3,5 mln - let it Sink in!
(Bloody Samogitians from their backwoods ! )
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

In every way they can.

Are they ? So Tusk's government has been lying all the time about great relation with Russia ? What else they have been lying about ?

Because the majority of the conclusions made by the Russian report are correct, especially in relation to the fact that the crash was an accident

I see, Russia is impeding Poland in every way she can with only one exception, the report on Smolensk crash is to be trusted. Would you care to explain when in that one thing only they are to be trusted?

Polish side took no part in the investigation, surrendering all investigations rights on Russia. Yet, they report cannot be really confirmed because they are refusing for two years to return the black box and the plane wreck.

I find that behavior suspicious.
Yet you say that Russia is impeding Poland in anyway she can but she can be trusted with (so called) final report on the Smolensk crash. I would like to use this opportunity to say that you are a pathological liar.

What are you even talking about is clearly a pile of **********. The fact that you say so doesn't make it true. Parliamentary resolution are common enough in politics - end off!

Lately Russians asked for information about pilots killed in Smolensk. Specifically they asked about their involvement with intelligence agencies, also they ask about their families involvement. Polish government fetch said information for the Russian government without murmur !

Yet you are talking here some sad stories out of your ass.

How can a party that trusts the Russian Duma more than the Polish Sejm ever be taken seriously again?

How can such liars like Tusk and PO could have ever been taken seriously beats me!

Poland's approach to Russia is based on reality and practicality

You mean to say that Tusk's government approach to Russia is based on servility and fear. I wonder what you and your boss are hiding. :D

You said that last time and you were proved wrong and I was proved right.

You do realize that you can be right many times and all it takes is for me be right once.
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

And just because Tusk can't get the Russians to cooperate,

Really, seems to me they are cooperating pretty well !
Still they haven't returned the back box and wreckage of the plane !
There obvious questions which should be asked at the point !

is a an appeal to the Russians to undermine Polish sovereignty-ala the Targowica Confederation which called on the Russians to help restore Poland's Golden Freedom.

Expect for your boss line of propaganda, you must be aware that what you are writing here is not only logical but also factual fallacy !

you are making the assumption, that the Russian powers that be are willing to cooperate with the Polish government,

I make no such assumption. We are talking here about Parliamentary resolutions! ?I see it as a pressure put on Russia! Seeing as the Present government of Poland is unable to do anything or for the matter willing to do anything I don't see all that harm to Poland.

Government isn't Poland nor is any party.
In fact government's action and inactions are incriminating and damming even in the eyes of casual observer.

The Russians do not want to cooperate in this matter however,

Why would they refuse to cooperate ? According to Tusk our relations never had been better.

they are only too willing to meddle in Polish affairs and impede and hamper Poland.

In what way they impede and hamper Poland in this case ? Tusk's government is praising their Russian counterpart and is supporting the Russian Commission explanations as to causes of the crash ? We can even say - Tusk and PO authorized that report.

Suddenly there are problems and Russian are bad and impeding ?

So your assumption at best, can be described as naive, and at worst as stupidity on stilts squared by infinity.

Really ? Are you talking about assumption I never made ?Maybe about something else?
I don't think myself to be particularly bright but do I strike you as stupid ? lol Your boss and PO are doomed, you cannot make that much of the blunder and expect naught of it!
Ironside   
15 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

So what makes them think that Russia will do a better job? Why should the Russians intervene in internal Polish affairs?
There is plenty of precedent for such treasonous behavior in Poland's past.

You have no clue and that is the prove.
They wanted only appeal to the Russian Parliament to influence their government to give back to Poland the black box and wreckage of the plane.Which that should do in the first place.

Tusk and his government are obviously unable to solve that issue. They had two years for it, They are inept and that is obvious, Your conclusion are straight from PO's propaganda booklet. Are you unable to think for yourself or you just man of the party.
Ironside   
14 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

there is nothing more to investigate.

hurray !!! Miranda has spoken ! Now we know.

Stay on topic. A thread about the crash already exists.

Sorry jon, mods rule.
Ironside   
14 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

by calling on the Polish parliament to ask for Russian intervention.

Parliamentary resolution directed at Parliament of the foreign country are not unheard of!
Asking for the Russian Parliamentary intervention is not a treason, its politic.
If you want talk about treason. Let say that plane of a head of state crashed on the foreign territory. According to the international law, such country have a right to investigate fully.

What would you call a government which not only renounced any attempts at investigation of the crash but willingly left investigation in the to foreign country hands but haven't even attempted to recover black box and what is left from the plane?
Ironside   
14 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

do you really want to go into it?are you pillock?

Yes and that probably explains why I predicted the last election correctly and you didn't. Should I remind you of some of the comments you made prior to the election?

Predicted ? go ahead an remind me!
Ironside   
11 Apr 2012
UK, Ireland / My dream about UK. Please help. [86]

As for first steps... What should I do at first?

Find a job first, as to family - are you sure it is a good idea?
Ironside   
11 Apr 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Oh yeah losing your ancient capital and half of your people's homeland to a foreigner and accepting it NO

Use the quote function next time.
That is what I'm talking about , you are so wrong on so many levels that I will came back to answer this one latter.

Two issues, it wasn't YOUR capital and they weren't foreigners !Let it sink in !
That is an example of your history - back of fiction mixed with BS and wishful thinking !
Don't blame you but it is time to think for yourself !
Ironside   
11 Apr 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

When the Nordstream pipeline was planned the Polish-German relations under Schröder and Kaczynski were really bad, so Schröder made that egoistic move.

I would put it down to Polish-German relationship at the time, Schroder got himself a cushy job with this move and given his history there could be something more in this.

The Polish fears to be encircled and isolated again were underestimated from the German side.

It is not about feelings, its about reality do you think that Russia would invest monies to build that costly pipeline just for fun ?

The problem is, believe it or not, Germans don't want to lead Europe! It was so easy to let the Americans, Brits and French do all the politics and Germans only do business.

They are in the position to do it whether they like it or not so they should be doing a good job or be a major screw up once again.

Then please correct me with valuable data if I should be wrong.

Wilno and area had indisputable Polish majority, Grodno and area I think still has, As for Lwow - in Ukraine Poles are were living in so called pockets, it means if you would drive from Przemysl to Kiev before the WWI you pas areas with majority of Poles than Ukrainians and again Poles and then Lwów (Poles) and than ........Zytomerz (Poles) and to Kiev. I hope you got the idea. Hence you see one of the reasons for difficulty with border not to mention that Ukrainians are one of the youngest nations in Europe without state till 1991.

So, such maps can are only approximative, east of the border there was significant number of Poles>
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Mother_tongue_poland_1931_census.png/466px-Mother_tongue_poland_1931_census.png
Ironside   
11 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

As PO and PiS fight the same old battles which young Poles are tired of, the way is clear for Ruch Palikota to shake up Polish politics

Really ? What a dick !In what way that git will contribute something positive for Poland. Shake ? :D
Ironside   
11 Apr 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

Did Poland really make such a "terrible deal" when its borders were shifted west?

that simply not true !

t hard to understand that Poles feel nervous about Germany?

Hey, people who are nervous are those who remember the war.
The point is that Germany is building that pipe around Poland - very queer!
Also they seems to underestimate importance of Belarus and Ukraine. Also there is a big miscalculation among Germans politicians, they think they can ignore Russia or deal with Russia as if independent Poland still were there ! Blunder! If they ever be real leading country in the EU that should start dealing with Russia not from the Germany-only perspective.
Ironside   
11 Apr 2012
History / Which countries are Polands friends, which are Polands enemies? [75]

Communism industrialized Poland but it is not only about that, It also about quality of work done, purposefulness and effect. Not to mention other social and cultural costs.

I assure you that independent Poland would do much better job.
In 1939 after only 18 years of independence, Poland had been made progress every which way. Before the war and only after 18 years Poland's economy was on par with economy of Italy, and better than Spain's not to mention Greece's.
Ironside   
10 Apr 2012
News / Presidential elections and debates 2015 Poland [472]

Nope. Only basic healthcare was like that. The advanced medical treatment was for the communist military, militia and party members. My uncle had to pay huge bribes to be qualified for an operation of bypasses in 1980s. Fortunately, he had the money to pay.

How it differs from nowadays ?
Officially medial care was free for all.

Somehow. However, finer kinds of food like coconuts or pinceapples, not to mention lychees or mangoes, my beloved fruit, were available only in the picture in an encyclopeadia.

Hurray ! pawian can eat his exotic fruits ! I suppose everything is well then !

Somehow, I always hated apples and tried not to eat them. :):)

Apples are great !
Ironside   
8 Apr 2012
News / Failures of Poland and Tusk`s government [191]

I want to work till I am 67. Even longer, if possible.

You can work till you die for what I care. However many people would like to it what they have been promised.
Cheating them out of it is not only ugly thing to do to but immoral.

No expressways and no motorways ready for Euro 2012.
What you say pawian - great government eh?