History / Esperanto - an effort by a Pole ... [122]


Harriet is, for the first time in his life correct, the guy didnt have an ounce of polishness in him, he was a russian jew who just happened to live in a polish city.

Life / Do Poland take care about their Culture ? [39]


No Arab hordes here, i've seen about 10 pakis in the past six years in Wrocław.


Not at all given that minorities here are about one foreigner per 10.000 Poles.


Good news for you, its probably the whitest country on the face of the earth.


They can hide more of them under the counters! Them pakis are shifty bastards.

History / Esperanto - an effort by a Pole ... [122]


LTB you're a cretin, Zamenhof was the son of a Russian and a Jewes, how is he a Pole? He was a russian jew.


Yes it is.

History / How Polish history is viewed by other countries textbooks [124]

Of course, that was the region he was born in and loved, just like some of my famiy was born in Wilno and loved it, but he wrote it in polish, his parents were both polish and his first language was polish (he couldnt speak lithuanian).

So yeah he was Polish.

History / How Polish history is viewed by other countries textbooks [124]


Nope, he's Polish.

History / How Polish history is viewed by other countries textbooks [124]


His father took part in the Kościuszko's uprising, spoke fluent Polish and despite being a Frenchman considered himself a Pole saying it openly in most letters.

Work / Polish schoolteachers are being crushed by the system [24]


Create a new one that takes kicking the crap out of kids into account, thats the missing cog that makes the current education system go boink.

Work / Polish schoolteachers are being crushed by the system [24]


Just got into a trollish mood lately, anywho i completely agree with Varsovian, our teachers got it uphill hardcore, i still think backhanding a kid is a solution more often than not.

Work / Polish schoolteachers are being crushed by the system [24]

Domestic violence and sexual abuse is the answer.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


Neither was intact in any way whatsoever, France had to resolve most of its troops risking nation wide revolution and Germany had plenty of fight in it except that half of it sided with communists and the economy was gone.

Russia did not need economy to wage war because Russia is Russia, Poland had the only intact army capable of repelling Russia in 1920 which is the whole point.


What US occupying force? America recalled most of its troops except for three cavalry divisions, UK simply dissolved its troops outright to avoid economic collapse.


You mean that rabble that had years and years of experience fighting Germans and each other? That rabble that b*tchslapped the tsarist armies, the expeditionary force, the ukrainian army (which was elite by any standards)?

Sorry but thats again the voice of western bullcrap historiography, the Red Army at that time was an extremely efficient fighting force, thats not the same as being shiny, civilised or simply cool looking but they were efficient.

At the same time the West had no desire or capacity to wage war, not the kind of war the Soviets were waging.


Shooting up your own civilians is easier than shooting up an enemy who fires back.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


No, not on account of goverments having enough machineguns to stop it.


Not really, in Germany and France it was just that most of the army remained intact.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


With communism rife in Germany and France depopulated and exhausted? And with their resources and German/French industries they'd have a fleet within four years, the kind of fleet that'd make Royal Navy surrender by just looking at it.


And do what? They could count on about the same amount of men as Poles did but unlike Poles they'd have milions of communists within their own national ranks, any confrontation in 1920-21 meant instant game over for Germany.


Yes they probably wouldnt, except that by that time they'd be looking at what? Five milion Red Army troops? Neither Germany nor France/UK had juice to continue and US was far away and isolationist as hell.


In case of victory Russia would have a fleet that'd put RN to shame by 1926, the fact is no one could stand up to Russia in a war of attrition and the only reason there was no such war was because Poland laid down the pain so quickly and decisively that any and all motivation for further european conquest vanished for two decades.


Erm yes it did, it stopped the Red Army from spreading it on the tips of their bayonets?

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


No, i'm trying to tell you that the West did not help Poland in any critical way and that polish independence was achieved without outside help.


Lets rephrase that shall we? Poles took advantage of the russian civil war to establish their armed forces after which they were faced with the bulk of the Red Army and won, no one helped them in any serious way, they helped themselves by picking the right moment and taking full advantage of it.


I do, in every western book about the subject you can read nonsence about how France and UK massively helped Poland, the fact is Poland took its independence by force of arms and the West just "approved" of what was already done by the Poles.


Well the West has repeatedly proven to be a bunch of idiots when thinking in macroscale but i agree to them 1920 war was Polands issue even if Polands loss meant they'd have to start learning russian in Paris, London and Berlin.


By 1920 the Whites were over, Poland had to take on the bulk of the Red Army.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


It was organised exactly under occupation conditions, it was organised at the same time everywhere which means that the occupiers found themselves outnumbered and outgunned virtually overnight.

I see where you're going though.


Thats another western myth, apart from the "Blue Army" the West did nothing, Poland won its independence using only domestic resources.

One could of course argue that the Blue Army helped and it did but it was 72.000 men in a force of more than 730.000 so no, not only did Poland regain its independence without western support but it held its shape and form despite western opposition.


No, the correct sentence would be "some weapons" more than 80% of polish arms were those captured from Germans, Russians and Austrians, the only significant injection of western equipment was with the Blue Army which while ceirtanly of some help was neither neccesary nor critical.


Are you talking about the tiny intervention force? Thats hardly helpful and it was not meant to help Poland either, it was meant to help the whites who were enemies of Poland by the way.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


More or less.


Poland did, though to be honest it did so by re-organising its underground forces into an army.

Lets recount what it did.

It defeated Prussian and Ukrainian armies simoultanously, then it defeated Soviet Russia.

Also lets be honest, in 1830 Poland had every chance of stomping Russia face down into the mud, the leadership failed though.

Also South America has multiple examples of rebels overthrowing govts though i'm not sure if these monkeys count, their goverments last as long as a smell of a fart.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


Of course i do given that there were no police or civilian hunters that "helped" all the police and civilians who could fight got drafted into the military, they were organised, armed and commanded as soldiers of the finnish army not paramilitary.


I'm relaxed, however when i see an obnoxious anti-polish lying b*tch like Delphia i just feel better dropping a few dung bombs here and there.

As for Poland? Quite a few times it did fantastic, lets not forget that Poland regained its independence in 1918-19 not by international agreement but by its very own show of force/uprising/war effort.

In 1830 Poland challenged Russia in a manner that half way through the war had France and UK completely certain that Poles will defeat Russia and roll over Prussia, the leadership failed true but if Poland showed anything its that it was a dangerous place to occupy and a difficult place to hold, ultimately impossible to keep too.

History / My Great Grand father took part in the Battle of Warsaw! [90]


What finnish paramilitaries you liar? Learn history, Finnland had a powerfull army with even more powerfull fortifications.

History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]

Neither, marsh camo came in four different patterns but hey you're the big one on the uniforms you should know right?

As for the spares Ishtatu they got pin-up lighting bolts to go with camo.

History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]


Got any more rubbish you wish to share with us?


As well as m43 Ostfront marsh camo which is what this is.

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History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]


Revenge works if used with excessive force, you either wipe someone out or learn to see their better half if they have one, Germans have one and its water under the bridge now.


Yes there is need for markings, the 1943 pattern uniform was worn by panzergrenadiers and SS, this guy is clearly Wechrmacht, SS always had their markings, they carried an asston of spares too.

History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]


I believe in mass responsibility as far as nation-wide crimes, every single German initially profitted from invasion of Poland, food prices dropped by 70% because confiscation of polish harvest from people who were left to starve for example.

Germans as a nation were willing to go to war and pay the price for regaining their pride with the lives of half of Europe, for that they should have been exterminated.


Thats not relevant, the vast majority profitted (untill the bombs started falling) and just for that as well as for quiet acceptance they needed to be shot, the few innocents who'd get killed would get sorted by God afterwards.


Why? I never made it a secret that i hold a grudge towards Nazi era Germany, grudge big enough that i dont care if a random German was firebombed along with his family.

That doesnt stop me from admiring Germany as a historical entity and BB can attest to that, i enjoy their architecture, music and much of their history but if i and Uncle Joe would exchange minds my first order would be to kill every man, woman and child in Germany untill there's none left.

There's crimes big enough that they justify mass responsibility in my opinion, its by gones now of course but i will never ever have pity on german soldiers, these people enabled the spread of death and concentration camps, no pity at all.

If it was me i'd bring back the time tested polish practice of impalement or skinning alive or whatever, anyone who was serving in Wechrmaht deserved a long and painfull death by default.

History / Polish flag over the Reichstag first? [399]


No myth BB, there was never an order but there's enough "suggestions" in official reports, SS was not big on prisoners, big on executions though.

The guy on the pic is not SS he's a Wechrmacht panzergrenadier.


And whats wrong about that? You know my opinion, every German of the WW2 era whether man, woman or a child deserved death,civilians a quick one and soldiers needed to be skinned alive, the longer they died the better.

You should be grateful Stalin didnt just decide he wants Germans extinct, any sort of mercy or understanding towards Nazi Germany and its general populace is bloody stupid.

Germany started the war with a full intent of exterminating 200 milion people, you wanted to make Warsaw and Moscow into water reservoirs after gassing/expelling their populations, sorry mate but if german soldiers were tortured i can only hope the f*ckers died a long and painfull death.


Why did he have to ask for their lives though? Sorry the odd human being among Germans circa 1936-1945 does not justify any sort of leniency.

Germans of WWII were not human beings but rabid monsters who deserved total extermination and got away with much less, they wanted to kill 200 milion people, wipe out their often millenium long heritage, they had plans to create human farms ffs!

Germans of WW2 should have been exterminated, anything less was a lucky break for them and needs to be treated as such.


Its not the war itself Germany is blamed for, if it was just war people would get over it quickly, its the idea to wipe out half of european population and degrade the survivors to the level of human farm animals that ticks people off.

Soviets might have killed slightly more people but they were nowhere near as creative and you could survive under soviet rule, under Germans you were either soap or a farm animal.

People and countries play pretend games called politics but BB lets be honest the world will never forget what Germany did or plan to do, ever, though adult people wont be stereotyping the words German = Nazi are embedded in global consciousness for good.

Genealogy / I am interested in tracing any of my Polish-Lithuanian relatives Sadowski [23]


No Bronisław Sadowski was ever a Mayor of Wilno, game over.

History / Silesia occupation [49]

Given that the entire family was from the polish Piast dynasty i doubt it.

History / Silesia occupation [49]


Thats not EU strategy, thats german strategy.


Regionalism in EU/german approach equals authonomy for regions and Śląsk does not have a history as a region, not one you're looking for anyway.

History / Silesia occupation [49]


Have you been talking about Silesia wanting to gain authonomy?


Yes you were, nobody in Katowice wants it, there's no move towards such you're not only pulling stuff from your arse but lying when caught selling ignorant bull.


No such thing as a discrete historical entity, Śląsk was never not once in its history a separate entity, whether historical or political, its interwar "authonomy" was never a true authonomy since its foreign policy and business relations were regulated by Warsaw.

Also what would be the benefits of regionalisation in Poland? I can name a number of disadvantages such as incorporation of said regions by neighbours, using the theme of regionalisation to decompose and partition our country.

History / Silesia occupation [49]


Name 3 :)))))

I love making you my b*tch, my best friend is the son of the vice secretary of Sillesian authonomous movement, his name is Piotr Gaca, i can discuss the none existent interest in silesian authonomy all day, especially given how you have no idea whats happening:)

Also i enjoy how to cover the fact that you're attempting to discuss a subject you're completely clueless about you bring around UK which is completely different than Poland.

In Poland there's no push towards authonomy of any region, i'll help you out the city councilmen of Katowice are members of the authonomy movement and they (you can search yourself a bit of research will do you good) are the only public spokesmen for the shrinking movement.

History / Silesia occupation [49]

The problem with regionalism in Poland is that no one wants regionalism in Poland, if we added the various regional movements i doubt we'd scrape 50.000 people together in a nation of 38.2 milion, various Kaszubian authonomy movements had a whopping 600~ members when combined, out of a region with a few milion inhabitants.

An interesting note is that many of these very few activists for authonomies are german, a point could be made that regionalism, as far as Poland is an attempt by Germany to break polish political coherence in an attempt to nab this or that, note that Sobieski openly used a german name for Śląsk when speaking about authonomy.

So a polish autonomous region suddenly gets a german name?

History / Silesia occupation [49]


Yes there were very concrete proposals formulated discussed and rejected by the crushing majority who were offended by the small groups hint that you could be Silesian first Pole second, Silesians consider themselves Poles first.

Just because YOU are an idiot who wouldnt bother to research the subject before opening his yapper doesnt mean stuff didnt happen, it did.


Increasing interest by whom? The Silesian authonomy movement decreased from 90.000 members in 1999 to 42.000 in 2010 so not only is there a decreasing interest but its not even 2% today, in fact its not even one percent.

Sorry but you're still an ignorant idiot now go do some research.

As far as Poland is concerned regionalism is a non issue, there's virtually no drive to it internally.

History / Silesia occupation [49]


First of all there's no move, a move implies increasing interest in a cause, there's none, and yes there's a reason ,the reason is that 98% of the regions population is against it.


Well given the polls approximately 2% of Śląsk inhabitants want autonomy, case closed.