Paulina
14 Jan 2014
Paulina
14 Jan 2014
Travel / Are there any films in English shown in Polish cinemas? [9]
Of course o_O (they come with Polish subtitles)
movies shown in cinema, preferably in Krakow!! are there any in English language
Of course o_O (they come with Polish subtitles)
Paulina
13 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]
Klo, I was writing about Protestants in the past. I wrote that I don't know what it's like nowadays.
Edit.
Look, all you need to do is to google it:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_%28Calvinism%29
econ.upf.edu/~alaoui/alaoui_sandroni_predestination_protestantethics.pdf
mtio.com/articles/aissar89.htm
Can all posters please keep to the thread topic
Klo, I was writing about Protestants in the past. I wrote that I don't know what it's like nowadays.
Edit.
Look, all you need to do is to google it:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_%28Calvinism%29
econ.upf.edu/~alaoui/alaoui_sandroni_predestination_protestantethics.pdf
mtio.com/articles/aissar89.htm
o Unconditional Election: God's choice of certain individuals unto salvation before the foundation of the world rested solely in His own sovereign will. His choice of particular sinners was not based on any foreseen response or obedience on their part, such as faith, repentance, etc. On the contrary, God gives faith and repentance to each individual whom he selected.
Can all posters please keep to the thread topic
Paulina
13 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]
No, maybe I've simplified things a bit, I've read about it long time ago, after all, but I'm sure Predestination was present in Protestantism (maybe it isn't nowadays anymore, I don't know).
PP, I don't think IQ results are reliable. Don't know about those PISA tests.
That sounds like Jehovah's Witness, but predestination is definitely not part of the dogma of the vast majority of Protestant sects.
No, maybe I've simplified things a bit, I've read about it long time ago, after all, but I'm sure Predestination was present in Protestantism (maybe it isn't nowadays anymore, I don't know).
Poles are mathematically gifted and are highly intelligent . PISA tests and their results are taken into account (contrary to what some of you say ) when calculating the final results of IQ scores .
PP, I don't think IQ results are reliable. Don't know about those PISA tests.
Paulina
13 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]
What are you talking about? It clearly looks like the Westerners on this forum are rubbishing data that doesn't present Poles and them as they wish to be presented and how they would like to see Poles. It seems to me that if it actually somehow turned out that Poles are more intelligent than the British you guys would get an instatnt seizure lol Your blood vessels in your brains would simply pop ;D Well, it really looks like McDouche's would lol
Hold on a minute, partner. What about "history and science"? Those are your words.
So you don't think the British are more intelligent than Poles and Germanic peoples are more intelligent than the rest of Europe?
You're not too bright, Harry, are you? :)))
Oh, I'm sorry, would "chauvinism" fit better? :)
Of course, based on what I've read about IQ tests, I agree completely.
I don't think IQ tests are reliable. I never thought they were. I was just playing along lol
I think this is a reasonable article on IQ:
(And, yeah, I've found it before I joined this discussion in case someone wondered ;))
Indeed.
It didn't open mine, since on this forum we're used to people from Poland rubbishing data that doesn't present them as they wish to be presented.
What are you talking about? It clearly looks like the Westerners on this forum are rubbishing data that doesn't present Poles and them as they wish to be presented and how they would like to see Poles. It seems to me that if it actually somehow turned out that Poles are more intelligent than the British you guys would get an instatnt seizure lol Your blood vessels in your brains would simply pop ;D Well, it really looks like McDouche's would lol
The Stamford-Binet IQ tests that 'polish patriot' favoured produce those inaccurate results, however as I said, they're flawed.
Hold on a minute, partner. What about "history and science"? Those are your words.
No human group has more or less innate intelligence - IQ tests measure learned intelligence. I seem to remember saying that half a dozen times here.
So you don't think the British are more intelligent than Poles and Germanic peoples are more intelligent than the rest of Europe?
Always amusing to see a racist trying to be clever and failing miserably, or are you so utterly ignorant that you consider Egypt and China to be 'white nations'?
You're not too bright, Harry, are you? :)))
Check out the meaning of xenophobia.
Oh, I'm sorry, would "chauvinism" fit better? :)
All those IQ tests and researches need to be treated with a great dose of skepticism.
Of course, based on what I've read about IQ tests, I agree completely.
I don't think IQ tests are reliable. I never thought they were. I was just playing along lol
I think this is a reasonable article on IQ:
(And, yeah, I've found it before I joined this discussion in case someone wondered ;))
However you are not so smart after all when you fail to see or refuse to see what she is doing.
Indeed.
Paulina
13 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]
LOL
Wow. This is probably one of the most xenophobic threads on this forum. It really opened my eyes.
I thought before that you people consider Poland less "civilised", less "developed" than your countries. But now it turns out that you think Poles as a nation are more stupid than you. And that it's "in our genes" lol
Who needs Nazis if we have you?
*smh*
Jon357, I want you to repeat now: "White people are more intelligent than black people - it's supported by both history and science."
Write it down. I want to see it :)
As far as I know Jews taught their kids to read and write so they would be able to read and study their holy scriptures and read them out loud in the synagogue.
At the same time Poland's society was mostly illiterate pheasants working for their noble masters and were getting to know the Bible from priests' sermons and paintings on the walls in churches.
So I think one of the main factors was education, upbringing. Not genes or even "ethnic intelligence" or whatever.
In that time Poland was the granary of Europe. The land was fertile, the nobles had it good. I guess they didn't need many inventions if they could just send grain to the West and get money for that.
What you guys seem not to take into account is that one needs more than intelligence to achieve success.
You have to have the right work ethic, the drive, ambition and yes, the right circumstances and opportunities.
For example, I've read that the success of Protestant countries is attributed to the Protestant attitude to work and being rich. It has something to do with Predestination, if I remember correctly. Basically, it was believed that a certain number of people were destined by God to salvation and the rest to damnation. If someone was rich and successful it meant that the grace of God was upon him/her and he/she will be saved. Or something of this kind.
Germans definitely had the ambition and self confidence (sometimes even too much for my liking) and work ethic and with development comes science etc.
No, to be honest, I doubt that by some strange miracle they have "more intelligent" genes than, for example, their neighbours - the French or their other neighbours - Poles.
Why? You're posting the same map all the time lol
Really? Where are those surveys? Links, please :)
You're giving me some random map from some random blog of some random guy o_O
How do we even know if this map is based on a legit survey and that it's reliable?
I'm giving you results of research made by a guy whose work is mentioned in most of articles about IQ I've read. He spent 30 years on his research.
And I can give you maps too lol:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequality.png
Remember, we've discussed Africa and black people on chat, right?
You see Africa on that map?
It looks like black Africans are the most retarded people on the face of the Earth. It doesn't sound nice, does it? Is it true, though?
The white people have contributed far more to science and engineering than the blacks have. That is a fact. Most of the scientists who are considered the fathers of quantum mechanics were white. Our understanding of electricity and magnetism is because of white men such as Maxwell. Space rockets, automobiles, aircraft, calculus, etc. are all from brilliant people of the white nations.
WHITE BRAIN POWER.
LOL
Of course I've picked on blacks because you're so fond of them. So, McDouche, what do you think?
There was not even one black Nobel prize winner in science:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_Nobel_Laureates
That's a fact.
And what about India? People from India are less intelligent than Europeans? Then why every time I see some programme taking place in the UK there are Indian doctors everywhere?
LOL
Wow. This is probably one of the most xenophobic threads on this forum. It really opened my eyes.
I thought before that you people consider Poland less "civilised", less "developed" than your countries. But now it turns out that you think Poles as a nation are more stupid than you. And that it's "in our genes" lol
Who needs Nazis if we have you?
*smh*
Jon357, I want you to repeat now: "White people are more intelligent than black people - it's supported by both history and science."
Write it down. I want to see it :)
Ashkenazi Jews all over Europe faced much worse hardships and they have contributed greatly to science.
As far as I know Jews taught their kids to read and write so they would be able to read and study their holy scriptures and read them out loud in the synagogue.
At the same time Poland's society was mostly illiterate pheasants working for their noble masters and were getting to know the Bible from priests' sermons and paintings on the walls in churches.
So I think one of the main factors was education, upbringing. Not genes or even "ethnic intelligence" or whatever.
There were many moments in history that Poland was doing fine but still not much scientific advancements were done.
In that time Poland was the granary of Europe. The land was fertile, the nobles had it good. I guess they didn't need many inventions if they could just send grain to the West and get money for that.
What you guys seem not to take into account is that one needs more than intelligence to achieve success.
You have to have the right work ethic, the drive, ambition and yes, the right circumstances and opportunities.
For example, I've read that the success of Protestant countries is attributed to the Protestant attitude to work and being rich. It has something to do with Predestination, if I remember correctly. Basically, it was believed that a certain number of people were destined by God to salvation and the rest to damnation. If someone was rich and successful it meant that the grace of God was upon him/her and he/she will be saved. Or something of this kind.
Germans definitely had the ambition and self confidence (sometimes even too much for my liking) and work ethic and with development comes science etc.
No, to be honest, I doubt that by some strange miracle they have "more intelligent" genes than, for example, their neighbours - the French or their other neighbours - Poles.
Stop posting the same link over and over that you have in chat.
Why? You're posting the same map all the time lol
Most other IQ surveys show that Poland is generally far below most of central and western Europe
Really? Where are those surveys? Links, please :)
You're giving me some random map from some random blog of some random guy o_O
How do we even know if this map is based on a legit survey and that it's reliable?
I'm giving you results of research made by a guy whose work is mentioned in most of articles about IQ I've read. He spent 30 years on his research.
And I can give you maps too lol:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:National_IQ_Lynn_Vanhanen_2006_IQ_and_Global_Inequality.png
Remember, we've discussed Africa and black people on chat, right?
You see Africa on that map?
It looks like black Africans are the most retarded people on the face of the Earth. It doesn't sound nice, does it? Is it true, though?
The white people have contributed far more to science and engineering than the blacks have. That is a fact. Most of the scientists who are considered the fathers of quantum mechanics were white. Our understanding of electricity and magnetism is because of white men such as Maxwell. Space rockets, automobiles, aircraft, calculus, etc. are all from brilliant people of the white nations.
WHITE BRAIN POWER.
LOL
Of course I've picked on blacks because you're so fond of them. So, McDouche, what do you think?
There was not even one black Nobel prize winner in science:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_Nobel_Laureates
That's a fact.
And what about India? People from India are less intelligent than Europeans? Then why every time I see some programme taking place in the UK there are Indian doctors everywhere?
Paulina
13 Jan 2014
Language / I truly admire you / You truly admire me? How do you say this in Polish? [9]
You're welcome :)
Yeah, but you know what, when I'm thinking about it now, it seems it is a general rule.
W takim razie naprawdę Cię podziwiam :) Powodzenia!
Nawzajem :)
Oh, wait a minute, I forgot about questions. In questions it would matter whom you're talking to but not who's talking - in Past Tense and Conditional Sentences with "would".
Past Tense:
You truly admired me?
Naprawdę podziwiałaś mnie? (talking to a woman)
Naprawdę podziwiałeś mnie? (talking to a man)
Conditional Sentence with "would":
You would truly admire me?
Naprawdę podziwiałabyś mnie? (talking to a woman)
Naprawdę podziwiałbyś mnie? (talking to a man)
Thank You so much!
You're welcome :)
I noticed your "In the example you've given..."
Yeah, but you know what, when I'm thinking about it now, it seems it is a general rule.
and I will continue my struggle with the verbs until i get it, properly.
W takim razie naprawdę Cię podziwiam :) Powodzenia!
All the best
Nawzajem :)
Oh, wait a minute, I forgot about questions. In questions it would matter whom you're talking to but not who's talking - in Past Tense and Conditional Sentences with "would".
Past Tense:
You truly admired me?
Naprawdę podziwiałaś mnie? (talking to a woman)
Naprawdę podziwiałeś mnie? (talking to a man)
Conditional Sentence with "would":
You would truly admire me?
Naprawdę podziwiałabyś mnie? (talking to a woman)
Naprawdę podziwiałbyś mnie? (talking to a man)
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
Language / I truly admire you / You truly admire me? How do you say this in Polish? [9]
1. Naprawdę cię podziwiam./Naprawdę mnie podziwiasz?
2. Naprawdę cię podziwiam./Naprawdę mnie podziwiasz?
3. Naprawdę cię podziwiam./Naprawdę mnie podziwiasz?
It's all the same (a man or a woman - it doesn't matter in this case).
Oh, I guess I should give some explanation:
In the example you've given in the Present Tense it doesn't matter whom you're talking to and who's talking.
It would matter who's talking in the Past Tense and Conditional Sentences (the ones with "would" in English), but not in the Future Tense, but, again, not whom you're talking to - it's not important in your example.
Present Tense:
I truly admire you. - Naprawdę cię podziwiam. (f/m)
Future Tense:
I will admire you. - Będę cię podziwiać. (f/m)
Past Tense:
I truly admired you. - Naprawdę cię podziwiałam. (f) / Naprawdę cię podziwiałem. (m)
Conditional Sentence with "would":
I would truly admire you... - Naprawdę podziwiałabym cię... (f) / Naprawdę podziwiałbym cię... (m)
Example: podziwiać
1 (I'm a woman talking to a man) I truly admire you / You truly admire me?
2 (I'm a man talking to a woman) I truly admire you / You truly admire me?
3 (I'm a woman talking to a woman) I truly admire you / You truly admire me?
1 (I'm a woman talking to a man) I truly admire you / You truly admire me?
2 (I'm a man talking to a woman) I truly admire you / You truly admire me?
3 (I'm a woman talking to a woman) I truly admire you / You truly admire me?
1. Naprawdę cię podziwiam./Naprawdę mnie podziwiasz?
2. Naprawdę cię podziwiam./Naprawdę mnie podziwiasz?
3. Naprawdę cię podziwiam./Naprawdę mnie podziwiasz?
It's all the same (a man or a woman - it doesn't matter in this case).
Oh, I guess I should give some explanation:
As there are no swedish/polish grammar to buy, I'm having difficulties to understand when it's necessary to end the verb in a certain way -depending on whom you're talking to.
In the example you've given in the Present Tense it doesn't matter whom you're talking to and who's talking.
It would matter who's talking in the Past Tense and Conditional Sentences (the ones with "would" in English), but not in the Future Tense, but, again, not whom you're talking to - it's not important in your example.
Present Tense:
I truly admire you. - Naprawdę cię podziwiam. (f/m)
Future Tense:
I will admire you. - Będę cię podziwiać. (f/m)
Past Tense:
I truly admired you. - Naprawdę cię podziwiałam. (f) / Naprawdę cię podziwiałem. (m)
Conditional Sentence with "would":
I would truly admire you... - Naprawdę podziwiałabym cię... (f) / Naprawdę podziwiałbym cię... (m)
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
Love / Hi! I was wondering if Polish guys like latinas and if they would ever date one? [18]
Hi Alexandra :)
If you mean Polish guys from Poland then I don't think they would have problems with dating Latin women. Quite on the contrary, I suspect lol
But if you mean Polish Americans - then I have no idea.
Hi Alexandra :)
If you mean Polish guys from Poland then I don't think they would have problems with dating Latin women. Quite on the contrary, I suspect lol
But if you mean Polish Americans - then I have no idea.
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
Genealogy / Old street map of Tarnowitz / Tarnowskie góry required. Can anyone help? [5]
It would be helpful if you'd given the name of the camp instead of stars.
I'm not sure if you mean Bismarckhütte camp (Auschwitz branch) or Polenlager 209 (Polenlager Königshütte).
I suspect both don't exist anymore.
Bismarckhütte camp was liquidated in 1945. I don't know if any buildings remained but apparently this was the location (the star on the map of Chorzów on the right):
My father was interned in a concentration camp in Chorzow called ***********. Have you heard of it? If so do you know what part of town it is located in.
It would be helpful if you'd given the name of the camp instead of stars.
I'm not sure if you mean Bismarckhütte camp (Auschwitz branch) or Polenlager 209 (Polenlager Königshütte).
I suspect both don't exist anymore.
Bismarckhütte camp was liquidated in 1945. I don't know if any buildings remained but apparently this was the location (the star on the map of Chorzów on the right):
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]
It seems to me they say more about education in the said countries, rather than about intelligence of nations.
The findings of the original posts seem the most accurate. They certainly cover a fairly rounded set of criteria.
It seems to me they say more about education in the said countries, rather than about intelligence of nations.
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
UK, Ireland / British people more intelligent than the Poles? [53]
Nope, they're less intelligent than Poles:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brainy.html
:)
British people more intelligent than the Poles?
Nope, they're less intelligent than Poles:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brainy.html
:)
Paulina
12 Jan 2014
Language / Do these sentences make sense in Polish? [12]
I can imagine ;) It's a difficult language.
You were right - "cry" is "płakać" and "dress" is "sukienka". But as XxxYyy already explained in Polish we inflect the nouns - their form changes slightly depending on the context.
So:
"This dress is yellow" will be "Ta sukienka jest żółta".
But "What have you done with that yellow dress?" will be "Co zrobiłaś z tamtą żółtą sukienką?"
Well... Buy a Polish language course book where rules of Polish grammar are explained (noone will be able to explain it to you here, because that would be a lot of explaining, the grammar is rather complicated), maybe some computer course (interactive learning is more fun), watch Polish TV (if you don't have it, then watch stuff on the internet).
Eh, I'm finding Polish somewhat challenging to learn.
I can imagine ;) It's a difficult language.
How come my sentences never make sense? I mean, I thought 'cry' was 'płakac'. I though 'dress' was 'sukienka.'
You were right - "cry" is "płakać" and "dress" is "sukienka". But as XxxYyy already explained in Polish we inflect the nouns - their form changes slightly depending on the context.
So:
"This dress is yellow" will be "Ta sukienka jest żółta".
But "What have you done with that yellow dress?" will be "Co zrobiłaś z tamtą żółtą sukienką?"
Can anybody give me some basic tips?
Well... Buy a Polish language course book where rules of Polish grammar are explained (noone will be able to explain it to you here, because that would be a lot of explaining, the grammar is rather complicated), maybe some computer course (interactive learning is more fun), watch Polish TV (if you don't have it, then watch stuff on the internet).
Paulina
11 Jan 2014
News / Ania Lisewska, Polish Woman, Wants To Have Sex With 100,000 Men for Guinness World Records. [55]
Those are a chauvinistic comment and a blanket statement.
If McDouche and Wulkan have the right to make such comments on this forum then I have the right to comment on them and call them what they are - a chauvinistic comment and a blanket statement.
May I know which of the mods has a problem with that and why?
Poles have another thing to be proud of.
yep, we're always proud of our full of whhores country :-)
Those are a chauvinistic comment and a blanket statement.
If McDouche and Wulkan have the right to make such comments on this forum then I have the right to comment on them and call them what they are - a chauvinistic comment and a blanket statement.
May I know which of the mods has a problem with that and why?
Paulina
6 Jan 2014
History / Communism, was it the best form of government Poland ever had? [68]
Damn, people... Jon357 and WB - it's funny reading your comments, considering that none of you lived even a day under that system...
And what did it achieve?
It fu*ked up Polish economy and people's mentality and Poland got big debts. We'll probably have to deal for quite some years with this. You couldn't debate things in those times - everything Poles did was great and wonderful (as long as it didn't have anything to do with nobility), there was only one line and hence - Poles have problems with dealing with their history.
PRL seems so great in your comments: "access to housing, free education, hospitals", but when I was a little kid I had only two sets of baby clothes - one blue and one red. Both bought from Czechs. It was ridiculous.
Jon357, we still have free education and hospitals in Poland. And you foreigners complain about the quality of both. As for "free housing" - I grew up in one room apartment - living in one room with my bother, mum and my dad.
I wonder if you'd stand one month under that system. If you complain about Poland now, you probably wouldn't stand a week.
That economy was simply unsustainable.
What do you mean by "plenty"?
People with left-wing views are the traditional electorate of SLD.
I doubt that. Communism failed. Or maybe it never existed, as some claim. Whatever...
Even China turned to a kind of "state capitalism."
Hopefully people will come up with something better in the future than communism.
Or maybe one day people will be ready for such kind of utopia. But it doesn't seem to me we live in such times.
Damn, people... Jon357 and WB - it's funny reading your comments, considering that none of you lived even a day under that system...
Don't be silly. Unless you can think of any government, at any time in Polish history which achieved more.
And what did it achieve?
It fu*ked up Polish economy and people's mentality and Poland got big debts. We'll probably have to deal for quite some years with this. You couldn't debate things in those times - everything Poles did was great and wonderful (as long as it didn't have anything to do with nobility), there was only one line and hence - Poles have problems with dealing with their history.
PRL seems so great in your comments: "access to housing, free education, hospitals", but when I was a little kid I had only two sets of baby clothes - one blue and one red. Both bought from Czechs. It was ridiculous.
Jon357, we still have free education and hospitals in Poland. And you foreigners complain about the quality of both. As for "free housing" - I grew up in one room apartment - living in one room with my bother, mum and my dad.
I wonder if you'd stand one month under that system. If you complain about Poland now, you probably wouldn't stand a week.
That economy was simply unsustainable.
You'll be waiting a long time. Plenty of people in PL supported the party, and plenty still do.
What do you mean by "plenty"?
Nevertheless, it would be naive in the extreme to assume that the people who vote. SLD nowadays were all party members before
People with left-wing views are the traditional electorate of SLD.
That homeless man will become ever more frequent as capitalism engulfs people with its perpetual profit at all costs driven agenda. Give it another 50 years of capitalism and the people will practically be begging for communism back.
I doubt that. Communism failed. Or maybe it never existed, as some claim. Whatever...
Even China turned to a kind of "state capitalism."
Hopefully people will come up with something better in the future than communism.
Or maybe one day people will be ready for such kind of utopia. But it doesn't seem to me we live in such times.
Paulina
6 Jan 2014
Love / Poland's virginity market [17]
Really?:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bristol/somerset/3429769.stm
thefrisky.com/photos/8-women-who-auctioned-off-their-virginity/
Harry, I think it's more about szczecinianin's recent choice of stories.
He probably wants to stir up, just like Polonius3 did.
That's why I think I'm going to stay away from his threads from now on. Don't feed the troll, people.
Only Jewish women sell their viriginity like this.
Really?:
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bristol/somerset/3429769.stm
thefrisky.com/photos/8-women-who-auctioned-off-their-virginity/
Interesting that the article is based on a piece in Poland's premier newspaper, but for some reason Barney ignores that fact and tries to yet again have a pop at the English.....
Harry, I think it's more about szczecinianin's recent choice of stories.
He probably wants to stir up, just like Polonius3 did.
That's why I think I'm going to stay away from his threads from now on. Don't feed the troll, people.
Paulina
5 Jan 2014
Life / Polish people and racism. [943]
It's hard to say, but I don't think so, to be honest.
Poles in general aren't accustomed to people of different races. There are some in the biggest cities, but not as much as in the West, for example.
The city where I live is rather provincial and I've seen very few Asians here.
I remember walking during the Night of Museums around the city in 2012 when swarms of people took it to the streets and I guess thanks to that I saw three (wow! xD) Asian men. They were walking next to a pub and there was a group of noisy people outside of it. I must admit that because of this forum I started thinking that Poles are some horrible racists and I expected those people to say something nasty, since those Asian guys were talking loudly and drawing attention. But only one Pole said something. You know what he said? He said: "I wonder what it would be like to visit China, you know...?" And he said it with such longing that it disarmed me completely xD
I don't even know if those men were Chinese, though. They could be Vietnamese, but I don't really know what the Vietnamese language is like.
I'm sure there are some racists but I think people are usually just curious.
As for the political issues, I don't think it matters that much, since Poles lived under the communism and know what it's like. So they can probably even feel some solidarity.
I've heard about some rumors? that Polish people are unfriendly towards Chinese people, especially those from the mainland, and consider us, erm sort of, not worth contacting with?
It's hard to say, but I don't think so, to be honest.
Poles in general aren't accustomed to people of different races. There are some in the biggest cities, but not as much as in the West, for example.
The city where I live is rather provincial and I've seen very few Asians here.
I remember walking during the Night of Museums around the city in 2012 when swarms of people took it to the streets and I guess thanks to that I saw three (wow! xD) Asian men. They were walking next to a pub and there was a group of noisy people outside of it. I must admit that because of this forum I started thinking that Poles are some horrible racists and I expected those people to say something nasty, since those Asian guys were talking loudly and drawing attention. But only one Pole said something. You know what he said? He said: "I wonder what it would be like to visit China, you know...?" And he said it with such longing that it disarmed me completely xD
I don't even know if those men were Chinese, though. They could be Vietnamese, but I don't really know what the Vietnamese language is like.
I'm sure there are some racists but I think people are usually just curious.
As for the political issues, I don't think it matters that much, since Poles lived under the communism and know what it's like. So they can probably even feel some solidarity.
Paulina
31 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
OMG... The fact that the same word is used doesn't mean that one can invent whatever crappy title they are capable of inventing o_O
Not as much as your title. That interview is very long and if it wasn't for your title I probably wouldn't have paid much attention to that tiny fragment.
She's not writing on this forum and she's not inventing crappy titles.
It was just a fragment of her metaphor.
I did some googling to have a look at titles in Polish press and news portals.
Who chose to stress the "farts"?
Let's see...
" I live and work outside Polish . When I go wrong strikes me as a wave of air, something like a closed room without interruption let go of someone farts . This is something that is stuffy ," - said on Radio ZET Agnieszka Holland.
Surprise, surprise... :)
And now, who chose to stress her message? :)
True, but still, it is free of work in those regions.
And it's free of work in the whole of Sweden. The same with Finland, I think. I'd have to check the rest of countries I mentioned.
She used the word 'fart'. It wasn't something I invented out of my imagination. What more is there to say on the subject?
OMG... The fact that the same word is used doesn't mean that one can invent whatever crappy title they are capable of inventing o_O
Because what she said was 'coarse'.
Not as much as your title. That interview is very long and if it wasn't for your title I probably wouldn't have paid much attention to that tiny fragment.
If you don't like what Agnieszka Holland says, then have a go at her, not me.
She's not writing on this forum and she's not inventing crappy titles.
It was her metaphor, not mine.
It was just a fragment of her metaphor.
I did some googling to have a look at titles in Polish press and news portals.
Who chose to stress the "farts"?
Let's see...
" I live and work outside Polish . When I go wrong strikes me as a wave of air, something like a closed room without interruption let go of someone farts . This is something that is stuffy ," - said on Radio ZET Agnieszka Holland.
Surprise, surprise... :)
And now, who chose to stress her message? :)
Only in some lander with Catholic majorities.
True, but still, it is free of work in those regions.
And it's free of work in the whole of Sweden. The same with Finland, I think. I'd have to check the rest of countries I mentioned.
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
How do they count this? I've counted there are 13 public holidays in Poland and 16 in Germany o_O
I wrote that you don't understand what I wrote.
And if you understood what she said then why this coarse, stupid, scandalizing title?
(I do understand what she said, szczecinianin, I'm Polish, I live here and I'm a native speaker of Polish).
You have no idea what interests me and you have no idea about my intentions, as usual :)
Technically, only the UK has more Paid Entitlement Days than Poland.
How do they count this? I've counted there are 13 public holidays in Poland and 16 in Germany o_O
I understand perfectly what she said. You could, if you too if you really wanted to.
I wrote that you don't understand what I wrote.
And if you understood what she said then why this coarse, stupid, scandalizing title?
(I do understand what she said, szczecinianin, I'm Polish, I live here and I'm a native speaker of Polish).
As I wrote, what interests you is not what either she or I wrote, but rather the respective identities of the writers
You have no idea what interests me and you have no idea about my intentions, as usual :)
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
Btw, is this true that Epiphany is free from work in Germany, Greece, Spain, Italy, Austria, Sweden and Finland?
Btw, is this true that Epiphany is free from work in Germany, Greece, Spain, Italy, Austria, Sweden and Finland?
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
No, I'm not wrong, szczecinianin. You just don't understand what I'm writing or you pretend not to understand.
Oh, I'm not shooting the messenger. There's nothing new in what Holland is saying, other people before her had such complaints too, there's no revelation there, she's not discovering America.
And if you haven't noticed - I was even defending her.
:)
Holland, when asked who's making Poland so suffocating, said: "We're making it this way."
So, yeah, that's pretty general :))
No, I'm not wrong, szczecinianin. You just don't understand what I'm writing or you pretend not to understand.
Perhaps this will happen when people start listening to the message without shooting the messenger.
Oh, I'm not shooting the messenger. There's nothing new in what Holland is saying, other people before her had such complaints too, there's no revelation there, she's not discovering America.
And if you haven't noticed - I was even defending her.
I'm sure you are not excluded from Agnieszka Holland's perceptions of her homeland.
:)
Holland, when asked who's making Poland so suffocating, said: "We're making it this way."
So, yeah, that's pretty general :))
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
LOL
I see you haven't understood a word of what I was writing :)
Well, szczecinianin, thanks for showing us why not everyone can be a good journalist in a quality newspaper.
Please, constrict yourself to writing/editing that blog... lol
*sigh*
It means the same. You are not interested in what was said, only who said it. You are merely proving yourself yet again incapable of objectivity, even with regards to some quite simple and easily understood words about the expulsion of air from the anus.
LOL
I see you haven't understood a word of what I was writing :)
Well, szczecinianin, thanks for showing us why not everyone can be a good journalist in a quality newspaper.
Please, constrict yourself to writing/editing that blog... lol
*sigh*
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
No, they don't.
If you wanted to convey what she said then you'd write sth in the lines of: "Life in Poland can be suffocating". Or more accurately: "Poland can be suffocating" since she doesn't live in Poland.
But in order to do that you would have to listen/read and understand what she was saying and convey it in the title. What you conveyed in your title was "Life in Poland smells" lol That's not what she meant.
So, yeah, I guess a journalist of "Daily Fail" or "Fakt" would write sth in the lines of "Agnieszka Holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts'", but a good journalist who understands what he's listening to or what he's reading would title it the way I did.
May that be a lesson for you, young padawan lol ;)
Nope. I mean what I write.
And what she said involves smelling some unpleasant odor as well. The two statements mean the same.
No, they don't.
If you wanted to convey what she said then you'd write sth in the lines of: "Life in Poland can be suffocating". Or more accurately: "Poland can be suffocating" since she doesn't live in Poland.
But in order to do that you would have to listen/read and understand what she was saying and convey it in the title. What you conveyed in your title was "Life in Poland smells" lol That's not what she meant.
So, yeah, I guess a journalist of "Daily Fail" or "Fakt" would write sth in the lines of "Agnieszka Holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts'", but a good journalist who understands what he's listening to or what he's reading would title it the way I did.
May that be a lesson for you, young padawan lol ;)
You are merely attempting to find a way to criticise me (a foreigner) without criticising a famous film director (Polish), even though all I did was to summarise what she said.
Nope. I mean what I write.
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
No, szczecinianin, she described pretty precisely what she meant, while "sniffing farts" is smelling some unpleasant odor and that's it.
So, your thread title is primitive and scandalizing. It does certainly draw attention and I guess that was your intention. With such talent you could work at Daily Fail, I think :)
No, szczecinianin, she described pretty precisely what she meant, while "sniffing farts" is smelling some unpleasant odor and that's it.
So, your thread title is primitive and scandalizing. It does certainly draw attention and I guess that was your intention. With such talent you could work at Daily Fail, I think :)
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
No, Dougpol, it was just an intolerant, offensive comment.
And listen, I don't care if this holiday is free of work or not, it wouldn't bother me if it wasn't, it's a minor holiday anyway, but do you have any proof that majority of Poles don't want it to be free of work? Any polls, surveys, anything?
True - but that was the gist of what Holland was saying
No, Dougpol, it was just an intolerant, offensive comment.
And listen, I don't care if this holiday is free of work or not, it wouldn't bother me if it wasn't, it's a minor holiday anyway, but do you have any proof that majority of Poles don't want it to be free of work? Any polls, surveys, anything?
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
That's not what I was writing about. I meant this comment of yours: "Have your silly catholic prayer days". That was unnecessary and made you look like an intolerant retard who's still wearing his short trousers...
Btw, do you have any polls about whether Poles want this holiday or not?
Millions of catholics want nothing to do with 3 Kings as a Kaczynski legislated holiday, and that is a documented fact, so get off your high horse.
That's not what I was writing about. I meant this comment of yours: "Have your silly catholic prayer days". That was unnecessary and made you look like an intolerant retard who's still wearing his short trousers...
Btw, do you have any polls about whether Poles want this holiday or not?
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
When? Where?
Polish Patriot, I think you're exaggerating and demonizing her. While I did have some "wtf moments" during watching "To Kill a Priest", I've also seen "Europa, Europa". Admittedly I saw it years ago, but I don't remember any Polish character in that film and the way Germans were portrayed in it - well, I wouldn't call it a picture of a good German lol o_O
Actually, as far as I remember, I've read that both Germans and Jews had some kind of issues with this film.
And if she thought Poles are such xenophobes then I guess she wouldn't say this in that interview:
Quote from: radiozet.pl/Programy/Gosc-Radia-ZET/Blog/Gosc-Radia-ZET-Agnieszka-Holland
The fact that you're paying taxes doesn't entitle you to be an intolerant as*hole offending me and other Catholics in my own country.
And I'm not telling you not to defend Holland.
She expressed sympathy for the SB murderer of the priest .
When? Where?
Polish Patriot, I think you're exaggerating and demonizing her. While I did have some "wtf moments" during watching "To Kill a Priest", I've also seen "Europa, Europa". Admittedly I saw it years ago, but I don't remember any Polish character in that film and the way Germans were portrayed in it - well, I wouldn't call it a picture of a good German lol o_O
Actually, as far as I remember, I've read that both Germans and Jews had some kind of issues with this film.
And if she thought Poles are such xenophobes then I guess she wouldn't say this in that interview:
To jest bardziej skomplikowane. Mnie się wydaje, że Polacy tutaj znowu są mądrzejsi niż politycy, którzy ich reprezentują i potrafią rozróżnić zwykłych Rosjan, czy rosyjską kulturę na przykład i sztukę od tego, co reprezentują rosyjskie władze na różnych etapach. To zresztą widać. No nie wiem, widać po tym, jak wyglądają te stosunki międzyludzkie tam na Pomorzu, gdzie z Kaliningradu ludzie przyjeżdżają bezwizowo, widać to, jak przyjmowane są filmy rosyjskie na tym rosnącym coraz bardziej festiwalu "Sputnik", no widać to w wielu, wielu sytuacjach. Także ja bym, ta antyrosyjskość jest podsycana, znowu cynicznie i w celach stricte takich politykierskich.
Quote from: radiozet.pl/Programy/Gosc-Radia-ZET/Blog/Gosc-Radia-ZET-Agnieszka-Holland
I am entitled to be angry and to defend Holland - because I was paying taxes here and ZUS, while Polish Nationalist aka PP was still in short trousers.
The fact that you're paying taxes doesn't entitle you to be an intolerant as*hole offending me and other Catholics in my own country.
And I'm not telling you not to defend Holland.
Paulina
30 Dec 2013
Life / Agnieszka holland compares life in Poland to 'sniffing farts': [97]
Where is she critical of cultural life? Maybe you mean social/moral conventions?
I think your thread title is insulting. Looks like you want be a leftist version of Polonius3 lol
Holland didn't compare life in Poland to sniffing farts. She said that when she comes to Poland a kind suffocating atmosphere hits her, a wave of bad air as when someone keeps farting in a closed room. There's something that makes the air stuffy.
That's what she said.
And then she goes on talking about political life and the influence of the Church, about Wajda's film about Wałęsa, about film about Smoleńsk tragedy, etc. etc.
She talks from the viewpoint of someone with leftist/liberal views.
With some things I disagree (for example, when she talks about Tusk - after all his party wanted to introduce some kind of recognition by law for same-sex couples) and with some things I agree (for example about Polish politics, about the fact that Poles are wiser then their politicians, etc.).
What I also usually don't like and don't really understand - whining about what Poland is like and... living elsewhere, instead of staying here and changing it.
Because you wrote it in an offensive way.
World-famous film director Agnieszka Holland sharply critical of Polish political and cultural life:
Where is she critical of cultural life? Maybe you mean social/moral conventions?
Is this insulting or just plain talking?
I think your thread title is insulting. Looks like you want be a leftist version of Polonius3 lol
Holland didn't compare life in Poland to sniffing farts. She said that when she comes to Poland a kind suffocating atmosphere hits her, a wave of bad air as when someone keeps farting in a closed room. There's something that makes the air stuffy.
That's what she said.
And then she goes on talking about political life and the influence of the Church, about Wajda's film about Wałęsa, about film about Smoleńsk tragedy, etc. etc.
She talks from the viewpoint of someone with leftist/liberal views.
With some things I disagree (for example, when she talks about Tusk - after all his party wanted to introduce some kind of recognition by law for same-sex couples) and with some things I agree (for example about Polish politics, about the fact that Poles are wiser then their politicians, etc.).
What I also usually don't like and don't really understand - whining about what Poland is like and... living elsewhere, instead of staying here and changing it.
Why offensive?
Because you wrote it in an offensive way.
Paulina
29 Dec 2013
Life / Christmas carol singers - is this a Polish Christmas tradition? [13]
A certain set of morals and lifestyle? What do you mean by that?
or other people considered by the person using it to have a certain set of morals and lifestyle
A certain set of morals and lifestyle? What do you mean by that?
Paulina
29 Dec 2013
Life / Christmas carol singers - is this a Polish Christmas tradition? [13]
Isn't "pikeys" an ethnic slur for Travellers?
dressing like the KKK no thanks they were probably pikeys from the osiedla nearby
Isn't "pikeys" an ethnic slur for Travellers?