British people more intelligent than the Poles?

londynek

I spotted the headline on the sidebar and clicked it in anticipation for the usual whining and moaning by the Poles.. I was not disappointed :D

My favorite comment:

obviously not all

not all what?

That made my day :D

Brits are brainy, but not as brainy as the Poles, according to Professor Richard Lynn of the University of Ulster.

Average adult IQ in Europe:

1. Germany and the Netherlands: 107
2. Poland: 106
3. Sweden: 104
4. Italy: 102
5. Austria and Switzerland: 101
6. Britain: 100
...France and Romania: 94
...Serbia (lowest): 89

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brain y.html

Lynn published his research in 2006 and didn't take into account a large influx of Poles to Britain. The question is: has the influx od brainy Poles improved the British IQ score or not?

no, the question is if high national IQ scores are correlated with economic success and the answer is, not really.

Since you know the answer, why do you ask the question?

I wasn't asking, I was stating or do you see any question mark above?

but nothing can beat your whining and crying about Poles coming to the UK and taking jobs and benefits

Not to brainy yourself are you?

how much influencing can 5% of the population achieve haha

Do you know who "£ojciec Rydzyk" is? :D
As usual, you didn't get the sarcasm...

According to this rank Germans are less intelligent than Poles, lol.

IQ has many measuring models. Having lived in UK I find Critic crossword puzzles I.e. in Evening Standard to be high IQ. Having travelled between Poland and English world, I noticed the crossword puzzles in countries outside UK to be fairly low level.

Try The Listener crossword - an absolute killer. Worth mentioning that cryptic crosswords work better in some languages than others.

i consider Poles to be more intelligent.

Do you know many of either, Crowie?

What was this ranking for ? What did it measure ?
Probably you did not understand the subject which was tested in this ranking .
Maybe this ranking measured cognitive abilities not IQ ?
The most strange criteria of that ranking was such as :
1 that professional educator was very highly regarded by the state
2 teachers have a lot of freedom to work with children
What does the level of intelligence have to do with such criteria as above stated ?

Rather a lot, really.

the other research says Poles are more intelligent than the British, and some of the most intelligent in Europe, so?
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brainy.html

Nope, they're less intelligent than Poles:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brainy.html

:)

Rather nothing :

this is 2013 ranking of countries in IQ scores , Poland ranks 7-th
.iq-tests-for-the-high-range.com/statistics/iq_by_country.

You realise that's the flawed Stamford-Binet scale. Not really used any more. And for that matter only one range of it!

No surprise though that you choose an older and less respected test that suits you.

Also PISA scores are reliable to assess national intelligence :
the latest 2012 PISA scores :
steve.blogspot.com/2013/12/graph-of-2012-pisa-scores-for-65_4.

China cheats PISA authorities by submitting dates from some cities not a whole country , that`s why you have to disregard chinese cities or regions , if Poland gave away scores from Warsaw . Krakow or Poznań our country might be the first .

China is Cheating the World Student Rankings System


Read more: World Student Rankings: China Is Cheating the PISA System | TIME.com world.time.com/2013/12/04/china-is-cheating-the-world-student-ran kings-system/#ixzz2qDQ6GUTi

In the latest PISA ranking ( disregarding scores from cities or regions of racial groups , Poland ranks 9-th with 1 point below Canada . Having in mind that countries like Lichtenstain are like cities ( 36 000) , Estonia (1.3 mln) Polish school students scored incredibly well for a nation of 38 mln. Countries with similar population scored far , far behind including UK , Germany , France , Spain .

The scores of large populated countries are like that :
1 South Korea 2 Japan 3 Poland ( 38 millions and 4 Canada 34 millions)
Poland and Canada scored the same but more Polish children were taking tests so I value higher Poland as more populated country and this factor impedes final performance of highly populated coutries like US for example .

You do realise that the PISA scores are selected university students? I wonder what the results would be like if they were spread across some of Poland's less esteemed higher education establishments. The type that some countries give university status to and others don't.

The findings of the original posts seem the most accurate. They certainly cover a fairly rounded set of criteria.

Interesting that you're getting so worked up about it that you're spending time copying and pasting stuff about students.

It seems to me they say more about education in the said countries, rather than about intelligence of nations.

In a way yes. More about the structure of education; what is and isn't a University and precisely who is included.

The scores don't have much value because a whole bunch of participating countries prepare their students specifically for the PISA test.

The English are highly literate but I don't know if that's an accurate measure of intelligence. Are they bright?

Stop posting the same link over and over that you have in chat.

Most other IQ surveys show that Poland is generally far below most of central and western Europe.
jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/europe-iq-1200-lynn20121.png?w=538&h=406

The Germanic people have contributed far more to science and engineering than Poles have. That is a fact. Most of the scientists who are considered the fathers of quantum mechanics were German and Austrian. Our understanding of electricity and magnetism is because of Brits such as Maxwell. Space rockets, automobiles, aircraft, calculus, etc. are all from brilliant people of the Germanic nations.

Note: I am talking about people who are culturally Germanic. I know some Poles (especially from the northwestern territory) are of Germanic descent.

Germany has much more representation in the sciences because they've been politically much more stable than Poland. Poland has been occupied for about a quadzillion years which doesn't encourage research. Poles are intelligent, but it doesn't mean that they're right or they make the right decisions. They've had a difficult time governing themselves over the centuries. But that is no indicator of the populations' intelligence.

Exactly. Put tomorrow Britain or particularly England in the similar situations and analyze Engleze as a rat in a laboratory. For example, imagine them as Russian gubernia for a century, then they restore their state. Then, imagine them under Spanish occupation for 50 years, then they liberate. Then, imagine them under the Egyptian yoke for also 50 years, then they liberate. Then, imagine them under the Turkish yoke for let`s say about 150 years, then they liberate. Etc... All that in the period of less then 1000 years