Is the Administrator of the P.F. a Native Pole ?

1 - So be against dozens of Muslims coming here to "Seek a polish girl to marry, convert and them dump her after have my EU visa" is Racist?

2 - Even if it was (it is not), since when Islam is a race?

3 - I Agree that probably very soon i will be banned by you or Pam. How dare someone like me not agree with the Anti-Catholic Left-Wing environment that you are trying to impose to all here?

So you know Polish, so do a lot of people that are not Polish, not saying you are not, saying your point is pointless again.


I can't pound on my chest that I do.


Meaning: I can't pound on my chest (brag, be a big shot) because I don't know the Polish alphabet.
Chill out as I won't be intimidated. You ought to know that by now and I am not befriending you, I just want to show you

politely where you are wrong.


Only if you pay the extra to have it made anonymous Tom, go read it for yourself.


Then how could I have contacted Pam with such information ?????
And now when you go to WHOIS the Polishform info. has been privatized where it wasn't the previous time Ilooked. Hmmm


That would mean whoever is paying the bill for the Polishforum domain has requested (for an extra charge) to have that information made private, which it now is, as everyone can see, so YES IT HAS.


No, it proves that my point is not false and that you are in denial for some strange reason.
Bottom line is, WHO really gives a flying fukc besides someone that wants to argue to intimidate and that sure the hell isn't me if you read the thread.

I just didn't care to have been called a liar which I am not. Got it !


Really ! Read your own words Pam and let your readers decide WHO is making things up.



So YES MAdear, You did in fact say that.......there it is, written in stone not to be denied.
Now since you are not the dog in this fight I suggest you go to porch before you embarrass yourself anymore.

If this a low jab at me then sorry to disappoint you but I don't think I banned anyone in my life, we were only deleting bots' accounts and we didn't have any "suspension" system, only warning system (and noone ever got enough warnings to get banned, I think lol). Our mods were doing just fine only with that :)

Furthermore, here I'm just a user and I'm free to write things I want and take sides if I want, but I couldn't allow myself to do that when I was an admin/mod at my forum. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't like to be a moderator on this forum :)

Also, I didn't allow myself to make petty comments about my users' names, for example.


Or you can get bored when after a few years you stop being as interested in the topic of the forum as you were before and you let someone else take your place, someone younger with deep interest and fresh passion :) I still have the "title" of the owner of the forum and access to the administration panel though :)


Who are "we"? Is your name Legion? :))


Yes, probably. They would be disappointed, though :)
On the other hand, I remember once bluesfan and delphiandomine were telling me that I should be a mod, when there was some sort of vacancy and I quite often disagreed with delph :) What were their reasons then?


You know, there was this user on our forum, a pretty nasty girl but with a strong character and interesting personality and very "different views". She even called herself "the devil's spawn" and it turned into a sort of nickname of hers lol She was our "arch enemy" on that nasty forum we evacuated from :) She first posted as a guest, we knew it was her though and in the end we managed to encourage her to register and she became a regular poster. She did keep her "different views" though :) We've became friends and I even met her two times in real life although we live in different cities. I even mentioned her on this forum: https://polishforums.com/love/addressing-laws-boy-girlfriend-parents-73216/2/#msg1464182 ("My friend who graduated from Japanese studies"). I've also met with other forum members - we had a forum meeting in Warsaw. At that time I was "the bridge maker" and a "mediator" type of person :)

Sorry, Admin, but you don't know me and you don't know what I'm capable of ;)

Maybe you got irritated because I'm not the biggest fan of your forum, but you shouldn't take it personally and be able to take criticism as there is no 'established truth / authority / opinion' so my opinion is worth as much as yours, right? :)


Maybe there are those who are "equal" and those who are "more equal" on this forum :) We are all hypocritical and biased to some extent, I've met very few truly objective people during my discussions on the internet. They are usually scarce on both sides :)


That's unfair, Vincent, and not really true. Off-topics are a norm and not abnormality on internet forums. They happen often and it doesn't have to mean the users involved "have no respect for other members threads".


So, if this post of Harry is left intact:
https://polishforums.com/news/poland-successful-case-low-criminality-74053/2/#msg1473687

Does this mean I can respond to:

"You wish to deny that some Poles do want to prevent Muslims from settling in Poland? Oh dear; are you ever going to learn that its a really bad idea to automatically jump to attack any foreigner who says anything negative about Poland? All you do then is make yourself look foolish."

Or not?


;D
TheOther, you should really really really come to Poland and talk to Poles ;)) Or even just read the Polish internet. You have no idea what you're taling about... ;)


It may be the case, but it doesn't have to be. Someone may leave their country and be as blind and nationalistic or biased as he/she was before.


What should I try? Living in another country?
TheOther, I know people who can be painfully objective about their countries. They don't have to live abroad but I agree that at least visiting other countries and knowing other languages so you can discuss with people of different nationalities can be an eye-opener. It was like this in my case with my discussions with Russians - during those I've discovered a completely different world view and I've realised how different people and nations can be. However, that doesn't mean that Russians are always right, does it? :)

TheOther, I don't think you realise that you're preaching to the choir.
So I don't know what your problem is with me exactly. It's as if you were completely not listening to me.
I'm not saying that foreigners can't criticize Poland or Poles. Poles themselves do that quite often lol I've explained more than once what's my issue with certain people and attitudes on this forum, I've given examples. I honestly don't know what more I can do and in what better way I can explain this. Maybe I'm just beating my head against the wall...


TheOther, are you seriously saying that there are no anti-Catholic/anti-Polish people on this planet called Earth? :))

Admin, mods, I've already asked about this in this thread but noone answered - why was this thread deleted?
polishforums.com/news-4/poles-ban-ritual-slaughter-67104/

Here you go again, barging into another thread and ranting about something other than the subject of the thread. I'm afraid it is true you have no respect for other members threads. Shame that you claim to be an administrator on another forum as well, I would have thought you would have known better. If you must come here to rant, please do it in an appropriate thread, or in the bin. It would be less work for us.


It's not rocket science, they wanted someone on their side so that they could troll on the forums, without the worry of getting banned. Sorry to break this to you.

Vincent, take a deep breath and read the title of this thread: "Is the Administrator of the P.F. a Native Pole" :))
None of the comments I've responded to were on topic in this thread. Including comments by the Admin himself :)))
And yet you attack only me for "barging into another thread and ranting about something other than the subject of the thread".


It isn't true :)


Well, I am, but it's a honorary position nowadays - I very rarely read it anymore.
And as a "former" admin and mod I think you should take a look at the thread title and maybe then you will realise you're not being objective as a mod. That's just constructive criticism, Vincent, I have nothing against you, so don't get offended :)


Vincent, again, all the comments I responded to are "a rant" since they aren't on topic of this thread.


They were wrong then if that was the case :)

With you personally? None whatsoever. This is a WWW forum, not real life.


Then why are you constantly arguing with people about what you think are negative remarks about Poland? Why on earth are you so defensive all the time?


Sigh! I was saying that you need to learn to accept different opinions and views; even if you don't like them.


Yes. There's a whole world waiting for you outside of Poland ... :)

*beating my head against the wall*

*thump, thump, thump*

TheOther, in one thread one Pole wrote that Germans are racist towards Poles and he wrote that he knows this from "an experience" :) What was your reaction to that?


I hope by "different opinions and views" you don't mean things like "Poles are stupid" or "All Polish women are wh0res/crazy/cheap sluts" or "There was something in Germans that made them Nazis and it's still there and we should be ever watchful, they should be always watched carefully" or "Jews are greedy, they all have big noses and they want to rule the world" :)))


TheOther, I'm not going to move to another country just so you would consider me worthy enough to discuss on an internet forum :))

Oh for the love of Mary Vinny, isn't that EXACTLY what you just did. (Do as I say, not as I do.)


It's my thread and I suggested that Paulina should take this forum over as the administrator because she has constructive information on and about Poland because she IS POLISH.

Someone that I would call an AUTHORITY !
YOU on the other hand, being one of the two British moderators here, have been here since 2007 starting ONLY ten threads in that time making it very easy to sit back and critisize others while they don't have that option because YOU post nothing here besides bullying members with your authority.


Not true, they wanted someone to level the playing field.
What do you think the Brit's Bullying Boys Club has been doing here without worrying about getting banned by the British moderators that show EXTREME prefential treatment toward Brit memebers and Brit's opinions. ???????

And that ain't one mans opinion Vinny. You mod's have heard this complaint endlessly yet refuse to nip it in the butt.
It is past the point of being a GLARING blatanty exposed problem.
I would be ashamed to pick up my paycheck for your bias moderating.
And when "WE" stand up to it "WE" get banned because of the one way street here.
Thank you Paulina for your input as it needs to be heard so Native Polish members could possibly start making this a Polish run Forum instead of being dominated the Brit. proggresive Left-Wing environmentalists that are trying to impose their immoral beliefs in a Christian Catholic country.

Paulina, you do know that your intellect is a thread to these Brit mods. don't you ?
That is why I ask if the administrator was a native Pole.
I am convinced that he is and can't understand why he doesn't hire some native Poles to moderate.
I have yet to meet a single Pole here who wants Muslims to migrate to Poland, I have not met one single Pole here that approves of gays , I have not met one Pole here that is a racist yet god forbid if they post their opinion on those subjects they will get hammered by the gang of Brit's or have their post deleted or worse yet get banned.

That is why I wondered if the administrator was a native Pole.
Happy Resurrection Day for He has risen.

WHY haven't I been able to edit for the last two days ?
Time says I have time left to do it.

Johnny, delphiandomine was one of the members of that Brit's Bullying Boys Club ;) A very prominent one too, Harry's pal and all :)
I think he's suspended now.
So take it easy a bit.


There were Polish mods in the past. Lenka, for example :) But she resigned, as far as I remember.


Here I am :)


Johnny, I already wrote that this mainly is an expat forum. You're fighting a losing battle here. One that was fought quite a few times before, I think.

It is pretty clear who's the target audience for the Admin. This is an English speaking forum and there will be few Poles here even as users.

This forum will never be "Polish run". There will be an odd Polish moderator from time to time and that's all. You're all wasting your time.

Better learn Polish and visit Polish internet :))

And the basic thing I think you should realise, Johnny, is that it looks like it's Admin's forum (if I'm wrong, then someone correct me), he runs things here, he clearly has his own idea for the forum and from what I've noticed during my 7 years on this forum he doesn't really care what others want this forum to be and doesn't seem to take much heed to users' opinions. He either has no business in making this forum "Polish run" or he simply can't find Polish moderators knowing English well enough and willing to do this not easy and rather ungrateful "job" :)

There was a Polish moderator not that long ago - gumishu. I don't know why he isn't a mod anymore though.

As a moderator I am entitled to answer any question a member has asked on a thread In which I may have been involved. A member asked why a certain thread was closed. That's what moderators do, if they know the answer.


I might not have posted much, but I've put in many hours of my spare time, trying to keep the forums clean. Just because I'm not making threads doesn't mean I'm not putting work into into the site.


But the two Paulina mentioned, were two notorious British trolls. Guess it's time for you to look up recipes, on how to get egg from your face.


No idea, noone else has complained about this.

I give up, Paulina - you're absolutely hopeless.

Comparing it to politics... if I was a typical Russian person, I'd want Putin to administrate the forum; otherwise, I'd prefer someone neutral without a hidden agenda to do it. If I knew Putin is a moderator, I'd be afraid to express my true opinions because the authority will always have an advantage over me ;)

Jesus...
I was mainly joking, TheOther. Did you see those two smilies at the end ":))"?
On the other hand - in what way would you like me to respond to your comment? I know there's "a whole world waiting for me outside of Poland" lol

I did visit other countries. But I live in Poland. So? Why should I move to another country? To learn the opinions and views of other people? I have the internet for that :)

The EDIT button is at the very bottom of the page now. Easy to overlook.

Regarding your hopes that this forum will be "Polish-run" (that includes Polonia members) one day: I really hope that will never happen because PF would turn into a Polish version of Stormfront within a week.


Why would he? It's his forum. If you don't like it, leave. Simples.


To broaden your horizon for example? To experience other cultures? To see that things can be done differently than in Poland? To understand that not everything your politicians at home tell you is the truth?


I would call you blonde if you'd really mean that... :)


... should read "that includes certain Polonia members"

Happy Easter everyone!

Well, there are different styles of running a forum, some admins care more about what users want, some less ;)


That's what I'm trying to convey to johnny reb...


TheOther, do you think it's some kind of Belarus or North Korea here in Poland? That nothing from outside gets inside and vice versa? We live in the EU, people often know what it's like in other countries. Many Poles have family members working or living for good abroad. I myself have a relative working/living in Germany, a friend who lives in the UK, I know people who worked in the UK, my best friend from high school lived in France, another one worked in Italy, my cousin was on practice in laboratory in Germany. Even my grandma worked in the US in the commie times lol I visited other countries too, mainly those in the West. Polish media quite often inform what is said, written abroad about Poland, Polish politics. We don't live behind the Iron Curtain anymore or in some kind of a bubble.


You think I wouldn't like that? :)


But that's true, the internet can be pretty enlightening :)) Maybe you should try it - learn some other language and take the plunge :))

Oh, I forgot - I also have family in the US. In Chicago, of course :)))

Thank you for the heads up and I am listening.


That was then, this is now.
On the flip side I understand that you and Pam's job has nothing to do with a popularity contest.
What I meant was when I personally got abuse nothing happened but it seemed as soon as I dished some back WALLA,
another warning. (kind of like entrapment)
As far as people posting off topic........my gosh, 90% of the threads here have off topic posts in them yet when I respond to an off topic post, WALLA another warning. For the life of me I don't understand that.

I have met some really cool people in this forum and exchanged e-mail addy's.
Hopefully some day I will be able to sit down and have a beer with them in Poland so there has been more good then bad.


Well maybe not leave but definitely time to take a break from it.
Thanks for the advise.
Bless ~

And also very deceiving.


Oh, I actually speak two more languages besides English. Does that count? :)


What gets in from the outside through other people is always filtered. You need to form your own opinion - best done by living outside the comfort zone that is your home country. Trust me, I've been doing this for almost my entire life.


Don't know. Are you really ready for something other than a short vacation?


Who would have thought ... :)

'Thanks' to such attitudes and cluelessness the good grassroots movements that would benefit the people get killed before they even start. Because there's always an idiot who will claim that 99.9999999999% proof is not quite 100%. Well, some of them are paid trolls but I assume you're not one of them.


Let me repeat it again because: Nobody paid anything extra, the WHOIS info has never beed anonymous.


Again, it has never been privatized. There are dozens of tools to check it; some of them require login to see the full info, but I'm not here to educate you; go and research it online if you want to waste more time.


Then don't use the tools you don't know how they work or if they work at all. If your goal is to take a picture of Jupiter but you don't care to invest into professional equipment to achieve that - do not announce to the world that Jupiter doesn't exist because your disposable camera didn't catch it.


Now I'm not even sure if you know what a WHOIS info of a domain name is. There is nothing to be denied; IF the WHOIS info was anonymized, you'd see the domain registrar's (or host) address. Please don't mention it any more unless you educate about the basics of domain names and WHOIS info.


I know a forum that has more moderators than actual users; if you need a link PM me ;)


Well, thank you. That's the goal of PF - to allow anyone to have their voice. Let's say, you are a devout Catholic - no problem, express your extreme opinions (that meet the forum rules); but at the same time allow others who don't always share your views to tell their side of the story.


Moderators (both the current, past, and the future ;).


You may be right; I don't track or am interested in forum personalities.


It was (as far as I can tell) corrupted when DB was rebuilt a few days ago..


Good moderators do not have to post much; just the opposite.


As expected.. You hear someone is 'British' then he/she must be...{enter_stereotype}.. or that someone is POLISH then he/she is {enter_stereotype}.. it's like discussing with a brick.


Could you elaborate what you mean by being "Polish-run"? Based on your posts, I'd guess the leading points would be something like that:

1. If it is Polish or Poland-made, it's the best in the world, no questions asked. Period.

(for example, if there were 10 moderators formally based in Poland but none of them has been on the site for a week to do the moderating job it would still be better than 1 moderator from Germany who actually shows up and does the job well)

2. All discussions that confront the established status quo in Poland should be avoided.

3. All complaints or bad experiences about Poland should be avoided or deleted.

4. Posters who share personal views of moderators or administrators should be treated with utmost respect and, when possible, given moderator privileges.

5. To make the moderating process simple, a list of stereotypes about nationalities and religions should be created and followed (this would be especially useful to those who have been given moderating privileges but really aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer).


I believe that's the gist of the problem. Look at the point #1 above.. you will never find out about the real life from the Internet or the media; the only things you'll have left are stereotypes or 'research' done by inept people.


It is not about information; it's all about experience. Now you have a certain stereotype about Black, Asian, Muslim, Indian people.. it's all from second-hand and static information (or misinformation). But have you actually worked or gone to a wedding party or a funeral ceremony and sat with a Black, Asian, Muslim, or Indian people? I did and it has been much more truthful experience than even the most objective media can present. It's not even only about people - in fact most stereotypes brought to you by the official knowledge are twisted (do you think you know Mexican or Chinese food just because you visited 100 Mexican or Chinese restaurants in Poland? - then go to a restaurant in Mexico or China to realize how brainwashed you were ;).

You voted for Obama didn't you.............

Good on ya! I've been trying to get that across for quite some time now but it seems that people don't want to listen or simply refuse to use their brain.

Each member here knows which warning codes they personally have, in addition to forum staff.
Members cannot see which warning codes other members have, so how would you know that "nothing happened"?
Other posters could equally say that you had abused them, but " nothing happened".
You will have received warnings for a reason, the same as other members.
Just because you don't see red writing on posts so much these days, doesn't mean that we've sat back and done nothing about it.


We work hard to remove off topic posts here, but generally all the thanks we get is abuse from members who are p1ssed that their posts have been removed in the first place, or suggestions that " conversations should be able to flow freely ". In addition, you have to remember that none of us can be here 24/7, and that an off topic post might have been posted when none of us were here to remove it.

I do remember an occasion when I gave you a warning for an off topic post, but the other member in question was given a warning too.

Once again you just presume that you are the only person who has been disciplined.

LOL People are tedious when they wear their heart out on their sleeves, whether they be catholics, protestants, Smiths devotees, PIS supporters, Born again christians, Chelsea supporters etc etc.....

So, yes, anybody, and that includes Poles, who bang on about their catholicism is to be pitied.


If you are alluding to the likes of Harry et al that is palpable nonsense. Nobody is being aggressive Paulina, apart from the racist cliquely posters of Polish blood here, who routinely complain about the wrongs that the muslim world has wrought upon them - posters who have never worked with a muslim, let alone had a drink with them - and yes, a lot of them do drink :)

You might consider, since you are proficient in English yourself, that English is by definition a language of debate, where straight talking has its' place. With such a large corpus of language there is simply no need for the "flowery" discussion that often constitutes a Polish forum of this kind - there is nothing overtly "aggresssive" here - just opinion.

And as I oft said, aka Agnieszka Holland, Poland ain't so bloody perfect that a little critical comment doesn't go amiss from time to time. Positive criticism too off course!

I would say that Harry and Jon have provided more accurate and reliable information in answer to specific questions about Poland than any other member. I, myself, have offered advice to a lesser extent, living as I do in a more rural environment.The amount of aggression and paranoia expressed by a certain fundamentalist protestant Christian from the USA is as amusing as it is boring. This is a forum about Poland. Britons will inevitably have a strong presence here because there are quite a few living here. The Admin, it seems clear to anyone who doesn't wear a tinfoil hat, is a PolAm. I suggest disgruntled members start their own forum.

On the point of us Brits and our evil, secular opinions, certain posters would be surprised to visit the modern Poland they know so little about. Try Radio Maryja if you like your Catholicism red in tooth and claw, but young Polish people, i.e. the future, well, you won't find too many of them of them espousing the intolerance and bigotry of the likes of Father Rydzyk. Oh, and I'm not not sure about RM's views on apostasy. Better not.

Well, if it weren't for the PolAm Admin creating and maintaining this site then none of us (including all the carpetbaggers) would have a forum like PF to enjoy at all. So hats off to another PolAm for doing something to promote Poland!

Yeah, lets take ONE bad example and say that he represents Catholicism.

So What about i say that all atheists are Stálin lovers, brainwashed Socialists?

Sounds Ridiculous, no? So it is exactly how you sounded.


It is funny, you post that and seconds later you say that no one here is being agressive except for Paulina. Hypocrisy at its best.

Levi. Read what I said, not what it would be convenient for your prejudice for me to have said. Coming from a devout Catholic family, I would never accuse all Catholics of being bigots, even though I chose to go my separate way in terms of belief system.

Skip that nonsense. You are only making excuses for your policy of sitting back and thumbing your thumbs, As long as people are posting and there are some info about Poland you don't care one way or the other. It is all about money, so don't be pretending otherwise and talking fibs and porkies to people.

the only reason you are so open to some posters here is because their provide some valuable info about Poland, valuable for foreigners that is, what office and paper a foreigner might need in Poland and such so they are free to produce a lot of trash for 95% of the time they spend on PF.

Its like you would have been a landlord and a had few tenants, you would value more those with a long term contracts and not matter what they would have done be in privileged position.

On the other hand fi they would behave like that in your house you wouldn't be tolerating such bad manners for a second.
So please spare us hypocrisy, double talk and BS and just run this site in the way you see fit without sermon on openness and morality as you are terrible preacher.

Travels and meeting new people do work for some people but some are dense and no amount of interacting will ever change their way or views.

Seem like you and the other are alike like two peas in the same pot in that regard.
You think you are better Tomie - you are to petty by a long shot for that to be true.
Good luck and happy Easter to you.


What are you dabbling about? Do you even know? Coming from countries where people had been murdering each other because of religion for generations you would think that you would keep your mouth shut when you came to the country that have done without all that keeper. Maybe you could learn something as in Poland there was the same religion but not killings - so maybe it is nit about religion but about people and culture.

Lolek, your post is nonsense.

Well said, (even with the patriotic back slap). Its certainly not easy to create a forum such as this. It remains a vast resource of information....like it or not.....agree with it or not.

That was me saying that. I would prefer to stay out of this ridiculous thread please.

If you or the admin decides that you need to feed the troll johnny rep and actually reply to his "demand" to know where the admin is from, suit yourself. Don't bring my quotes into it. Thank you!