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Stop the Polish from entering the UK (yet another thread)


osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #121
britts are not hospitable

Speak for yourself.
But you might wear your a*** out in the process.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
7 Oct 2007 /  #122
Netherlands, Belgium, France, Italy and Spain

exactly countries that can offer us things back, these are main members, so to speak.

Now if you will excuse me, I have some French cheese to go and eat.
I will continue later.

yum yum

That is rubbish. Trade between nations is not done by a couple of politicians shaking hands and that's it.
You would simply add huge areas of burocracy to deal with so many different countries.

all you need to do is organise trade, not that difficult in the grand scheme of things, its just as part of the EU you are all under one warm sheet :)

I'm not sure what you mean.
If you mean the cost of trade without any decision making in return being your preference.

what i mean is that there are nations of the EU who take take take and don't give back :) i'm sure thats clear enough :):):)

So some industries in the UK lose out because their trading partners are seen as insignificant?

you could trade company to company without the EU, it is just costing us money, the EU that is, if we wanted to trade with european companies we would do so same as we do with America and Asia etc

Trade between member states is not restricted as it is with outside countries.

yeah i know that but its only worth trading in this way with some of the members not all of them.

And now it is easier and we have more bargaining power.

yes and at the same time filling the pockets of the Eastern Europeans with free money :)

that we depend on?

no i'm sorry, we need Russia (gas), we need the US (Lots of things) we need parts of Asia (oil) we don't need Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc etc
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #123
the EU who take take take and don't give back :) i'm sure thats clear enough

At the moment, they take and give back.
Without membership, they take and don't give back.

we don't need Poland, Romania, Bulgaria

We need enough other countries in the EU, especially the ones I already listed, plus Germany, etc.
If the economies of these countries grow and become successful, we will need them.

You have a very simplistic view of economics and international trade.
You seem to have conveniently ignored the social benefits of the British government being pushed into giving us things like the minimum wage, you have ignored how the UK can benefit from outside countries wanting to deal with the EU and using the UK as a base. This works for all member states, including Poland.

You have also ignored the historic benefit - cohesion amongst European states putting an end to armed conflict between countries. If there had been no EU, you can't tell how European countries might have progressed without common political direction.

It might not have turned out so nicely.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
7 Oct 2007 /  #124
At the moment, they take and give back.
Without membership, they take and don't give back.

what do they give???

You have a very simplistic view of economics and international trade.
You seem to have conveniently ignored the social benefits of the British government being pushed into giving us things like the minimum wage, you have ignored how the UK can benefit from outside countries wanting to deal with the EU and using the UK as a base. This works for all member states, including Poland.
You have also ignored the historic benefit - cohesion amongst European states putting an end to armed conflict between countries. If there had been no EU, you can't tell how European countries might have progressed without common political direction.
It might not have turned out so nicely.

i take your points and you make them well, surely however we can trade with who we like, we are in the power position, we can pick and choose so to speak.
isthatu  3 | 1164  
7 Oct 2007 /  #125
Will the colonials please tell my why they are in a Polonia UK thread. As for all this "brit" this and "brit" that.....will the septics also please note that for most of the time you mean ENGLISH(a strange breed of mostly germanic stock with a tendency to weak chins and fwa fwa speach patterns)and the rest of us,the Scots,Welsh and some of the Irish dont appreciate being lumbered in with them,mind you,like siblings we fight amongst ourselves but unite against outsiders, we dont call you lot Canadians or Mexicans so please have the decency to diffirentiate between the nations in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Roofer,learn to speak English before you claim to be the last bastion of Englishness please.
randompal  7 | 306  
7 Oct 2007 /  #126
a strange breed of mostly germanic stock with a tendency to weak chins and fwa fwa speach patterns

haha classic
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #127
isthatu

fwa fwa fwa
roofer1  - | 16  
7 Oct 2007 /  #128
osoil, tipical they have been tearing the arse out of uk for years i think i no who to pull up and who to let go and that would not be the pols and for the eu if the uk had let it happen you would be run by germans and french im sure you would not be to happy about that
isthatu  3 | 1164  
7 Oct 2007 /  #129
btw,some of my post was meant to be ironic. truelly ironic that it was aimed at Americans..........;) I genuinly think a lot of Americans,and possibly others read our sardonic humour/humor as standoff ish,its not,we love you guys,honest.
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #130
we are in the power position

As an EU member, yes.

what do they give

EU money does come back to the UK, especially poorer areas.
We get to play a part in making legislation at all levels.
Free movement of goods and services - it works in our favour too.

International relations are not simple. They never have been. Membership of the EU makes it much easier between member states.

Roofer,learn to speak English

He's doing well - he can still type even after his knuckles have been dragging on the ground all day.

Has anyone seen Osoil?
roofer1  - | 16  
7 Oct 2007 /  #131
isthatyou i love it goood shot he he im not numerik but nor was henry ford dont confuse me now
isthatu  3 | 1164  
7 Oct 2007 /  #132
sorry roofer,it is below the belt to judge by someones spelling,not cricket.
But as I am free to judge your opinions,as you are mine,let me put it another way. Your neo nazi esque rants are not the last word in English opinion about anything other than the ill informed hysteria drummed up by rags like the ***coughspit***daily (hate)mail.

As to being "stuck in a trench" with anyone,roofer,when was the last time you faced this dilema? Have you any idea just ho many VCs were won by Indian Army soldiers not to mention Ghurkhas,or are they the "ok sort of darkies" rascists are fond of dragging out to show just how ethnicaly tollerent they are?
osiol  55 | 3921  
7 Oct 2007 /  #133
surely however we can trade with who we like, we are in the power position, we can pick and choose so to speak

No.
A bit.
On whose terms?

dont confuse me now

It would be very easy if you actually listened to anyone.
AmirahJanowitz  
7 Oct 2007 /  #134
I agree with KD sledz is a good guy.
slick77  
7 Oct 2007 /  #135
Michal are you from Poland?
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
7 Oct 2007 /  #136
No. He is the oinker/kmiot.
slick77  
7 Oct 2007 /  #137
That explains everything...
AmirahJanowitz  
7 Oct 2007 /  #138
yeah micheal stop knocking the Polish people you are making the British people look bad.

you are a funny guy greg.
Rizikake  - | 1  
7 Oct 2007 /  #139
As an Englishman, I would like to apologise for the likes of anyone who dislikes the Polish and other Eastern-European residents. The problem we seem to always come down to is the fact that most of the English people of this country lack a fundamental understanding of economics as wells as politics.

It is a shame to see that the Polish and other are being used as a scapegoat for the slack-jawed society, which is modern day Britain. We have a record amount of unemployment in this country, concerning the white Anglo-Saxon residents, and the Polish are being blamed for this; "Native born residents are being passed over for job opportunities, over the Polish." These jobs wouldn't be being taken by Polish if those lazy bastards actually got of their backsides and actually did some god-damn work.

I respect you guys because you come here to work and work twice as hard as any Englishman could ever do. As well, you are also the nicest and most honest out of most cultures that I have ever had the fortunes to meet. Another thing that people fail to realise is that immigrants generate well in excess of £2 Billion in revenue to the country every year. We can not, we simply can not, ignore or deny that the economy is being strengthened by just the minor presence of Polish and other countries.

The British people are sick of so many eastern European immigrants in this country and there are more and more attacks on the eastern Europeans everyday.

These are the same kind of people that are on the unemployed list, drink themselves into a state everyday, and then later that day break into your house or vandalise your car for "just a laugh" - ******* pricks.

I have unfathomable respect for the Polish. Respect.

PS. I'm slightly drunk; forgive my ranting and more than likely incomprehensible English.
AmirahJanowitz  
7 Oct 2007 /  #140
good for you rizikake I like the british too.
at least you support the polish people you understand.
how they been through. thanks.
ukpolska  
8 Oct 2007 /  #141
PS. I'm slightly drunk

That explains your tree hugging love for Poland :O)

Another thing that people fail to realise is that immigrants generate well in excess of £2 Billion in revenue to the country every year.

This is well and good and a very important point, but what is happening in Slough in the UK is that there is a large turnover in migrant jobs; consequently, the vital money that should be going into the local economy is recycled somewhere else and the local services are on the brink of collapsing.

tv-links.co.uk/listings/9/5249
file: Immigration, Part 2, Part 3
MrAmerica  - | 12  
8 Oct 2007 /  #142
It must be a sad miserable life in England when all you Brits come to a Polish forum
and put down a race of hard working people.
Tell me are any of you even Polish???
I highly doubt it!
ukpolska  
8 Oct 2007 /  #143
It must be a sad miserable life in England when all you Brits come to a Polish forum

The same can be said of MrAmerica above, where unlike you, I live in Poland.
MrAmerica  - | 12  
8 Oct 2007 /  #144
I`m not putting down the Polish unlike the British that infest this forum
ukpolska  
8 Oct 2007 /  #145
MrAmerica

Looking at your posts, you seem to be a bit of a Brit basher, so I will treat your comments as so and ignore them *done"
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
8 Oct 2007 /  #146
given the global perception of america and the people who call it home, it is a tad insolent when they start critisising others, especially their superiors...

the audacity of it
jareck  
8 Oct 2007 /  #147
This is well and good and a very important point, but what is happening in Slough in the UK is that there is a large turnover in migrant jobs; consequently, the vital money that should be going into the local economy is recycled somewhere else and the local services are on the brink of collapsing.

to be honest the state of the british services were not in any good shape prior to immigration of our polish brothers and sisters, if you look at figures availble from ministry of health and other government agenices you will see that actually there is a much better atmosphere in the nhs, schools, and transport service,

in uk there are large immigrant populations who actually get the job done, they dont moan as much as the british public. i dont think any group should be blamed, the authorities have the power and money to make change. europe is a land for all that is our right our value
ukpolska  
8 Oct 2007 /  #148
to be honest the state of the british services were not in any good shape prior to immigration of our polish brothers and sisters

good point!!

they dont moan as much as the british public

To be honest I think any country would moan with such high numbers of immigration to a country :O)
truebrit  3 | 196  
8 Oct 2007 /  #149
in answer to trubrit, trubrit my ar... should be turban the paki and ne.... have been ruining britain ever since they got here and the prisons are 80 per sent full with the other lot sure there are plenty of english drunks as well as polish but they both eng/polish have had there arses torn out by different people trubrit my arse the only thing the people you singing the praises about is a uk passport plenty of of f..k all else they sent more money out of the country than they put in half the phone calls pass thoughg f..king india piiss off i would not like to be stuck in trench with you or your mates give me pol every time drunk or sober a-hole

Thanks for the entertainment roofer! I enjoy reading the funny posts of retards.Judging from the spelling in your other posts you are certainly not English yourself because you cannot actually write English.
ukpolska  
8 Oct 2007 /  #150
Judging from the spelling in your other posts you are certainly not English yourself because you cannot actually write English.

I think the sad reallty is that he is British :O(

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