People who are legally allowed to vote in a British Government and nobody else
Ever complained about a foreign government?
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Ever complained about a foreign government?
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tornado2007 11 | 2270
6 Sep 2007 / #92
Ever complained about a foreign government?
on a person level yes, but not while i was living or working in that county.
There is a big difference between somebody coming to the UK and complaining and saying, the working conditions are rubbish or, i can't believe i'm working so other people can sit about and claim benefits, the government just don't know how to deal with problem x and problem y.
These people do not need to be in the country, therefore do not need to be experiencing of having these problems.
Its different me having an opinion on say, Bush's stand on Iraq and what should be done. As it does not affect me personally and i have not put myself in that position of not liking or having a problem with it. People who have come to the UK and complained have put themselves in that position and can change it by leaving.
The Hungarians at work go back to Hungary to see the dentist.
what has that got to do with the price of bread :)
No passport required.
don't understand what you are referring to and what part of the conversation it involves
I don't need to be in the UK.
Thanks be to the EU!
However, you have overlooked one little fact...
You're arguments are pretty illogical, considering your dependence of the nationality of the person making the argument.
Seen the title of the thread, Mr. Twister?
Thanks be to the EU!
However, you have overlooked one little fact...
You're arguments are pretty illogical, considering your dependence of the nationality of the person making the argument.
don't understand what you are referring to and what part of the conversation it involves
Seen the title of the thread, Mr. Twister?
tornado2007 11 | 2270
6 Sep 2007 / #94
I don't need to be in the UK.
Thanks be to the EU!
Thanks be to the EU!
EU or not you are in the United Kingdom, most of which is governed by the Labour party, different from Poland or any other European country. EU or not this governed by politicians voted in by the citizens of the United Kingdom and not the EU. seems pretty logical to me
nationality of the person making the argument.
what is wrong with that, i'm British, whether i'm Polish or English its my view.
what is wrong with that, i'm British, whether i'm Polish or English its my view
What countries are you allowed to complain about as a British citizen living in the UK?
tornado2007 11 | 2270
6 Sep 2007 / #96
on a serious note, our own country the one that we live in.
there is complaining and then there is having a view, you have a view if you live outside or are not involved directly with that country of which you are talking about.
but your getting of my point.
You are hear of your own choice, if you don't like something you can do something about it and remove yourself from that environment. where as if you have a view on America you can't directly do anything about it
there is complaining and then there is having a view, you have a view if you live outside or are not involved directly with that country of which you are talking about.
but your getting of my point.
You are hear of your own choice, if you don't like something you can do something about it and remove yourself from that environment. where as if you have a view on America you can't directly do anything about it
Mr. Tornado.
I am here because I never chose to leave.
May I now complain?
I am here because I never chose to leave.
May I now complain?
szkotja2007 27 | 1497
6 Sep 2007 / #98
yes they are but they wouldn't be coming here on their own, i would assume they would have a family
I have a friend from Lodz, single mother, two children under age of six. She arrived with no job. How would this statement affect her....
we would have no dependents in this country arriving as such,
if they need the state to help them, then forget entry.
She now has a job, earning minimum wage, her tax will not cover her childrens education or health needs. Would this be foreseen at point of entry?
ow many people who you could consider elderly (60+) suddenly decide to up sticks
Guess who came over to look after the children ?
tornado2007 11 | 2270
6 Sep 2007 / #99
I am here because I never chose to leave.
you didn't choose to leave, you were born here or what?? why did you come here if you didn't want to??
I have a friend from Lodz, single mother, two children under age of six. She arrived with no job. How would this statement affect her....
she would not be allowed in, it would be down to the Polish government to support her
She now has a job, earning minimum wage, her tax will not cover her childrens education or health needs. Would this be foreseen at point of entry?
she would not have got in in the first place.
Guess who came over to look after the children ?
again N/A they would not be allowed in the first place.
this does seem unfair, so maybe in the checking process there could be some kind of job centre involved so that a job could be set up for the mother. I'm not sure how this would work so please don't ask me, why not ask the home secretary?? lol, although i don't think even the home sec would no :)
I am English.
I didn't want to tell you because I was enjoying your arguments.
I didn't want to tell you because I was enjoying your arguments.
tornado2007 11 | 2270
6 Sep 2007 / #101
fair one, you know you reminded me of school where once we had a vote on whether we agreed or disagreed with the statement, we were made to go against our vote and construct an argument for the side we had voted against.
It was really cool and i enjoyed it :)
I'm guessing your view differs from mine on the Immigration and the EU situation then?? I' feel like its been me vs the forum all night, lol :)
It was really cool and i enjoyed it :)
I'm guessing your view differs from mine on the Immigration and the EU situation then?? I' feel like its been me vs the forum all night, lol :)
I want people to come here and work.
I want people from here to work.
I happen to enjoy work myself.
There is a need for a social security net for those who need it.
To allow people to work, social security is required to support workers and their dependants.
It is all about balance.
I also believe in the EU as a means of international stability, co-operation, trade and sharing of ideas.
I want people from here to work.
I happen to enjoy work myself.
There is a need for a social security net for those who need it.
To allow people to work, social security is required to support workers and their dependants.
It is all about balance.
I also believe in the EU as a means of international stability, co-operation, trade and sharing of ideas.
tornado2007 11 | 2270
6 Sep 2007 / #103
i agree put paramount to all that is the overall welfare of the UK, controlled immigration is one step towards that.