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Polish parents hang themselves at their Lincoln, UK home


Mister H  11 | 761  
11 Jul 2008 /  #1
A Polish couple hanged themselves within days of each other at their Lincoln home as they struggled to settle in Britain, according to a report in the Sun newspaper.

Dorota Trukawka, 43, was found hanged by her 11-year-old daughter Anna. She called her brother Michael, 20, but he was unable to revive their mother.

Then eight days later, on June 7, their father Dariusz, 49, was found hanged by police at the family's house in Wragby Road after he failed to attend a meeting.

fenlandcitizen.co.uk/latest-east-midlands-news/Polish-parents-hang-themselves-within.4280577.jp

This is beyond words.
wildrover  98 | 4430  
11 Jul 2008 /  #2
very sad . and i think a little selfish...their poor daughter...no matter how bad life was i could never do such a thing when a child is depending on me....There must be so many people who knew them wishing they could have done something to help....very very sad.....
noimmigration  
11 Jul 2008 /  #5
Why do poles keep killing themselves ? you would never hear of a brit who lost their job abroad hanging themselves. Then again usually british eople working abroad are highly skilled and in a good occuation, but the comparison is the same.
Barney  17 | 1624  
11 Jul 2008 /  #6
You seem to be lacking in humanity at all levels
noimmigration  
11 Jul 2008 /  #7
No its a serious question, I have read many accounts of poles killing themselves because of silly reasons. This couple couldnt find consistant employment what do you expect when your a low skilled immigrant who probably cant speak english.
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
11 Jul 2008 /  #8
Then again usually british eople working abroad are highly skilled

Are they?
noimmigration  
11 Jul 2008 /  #9
why would a british person move somewhere to make LESS money in unskilled employment. Give me examples of mass immigration of unskilled british tilet cleaners, street sweepers etc.

Give m an example of british couples killing themselves because they could not hack the job markt, leaving chidren behind in a foreign country.
osiol  55 | 3921  
11 Jul 2008 /  #10
Give me examples of mass immigration of unskilled british tilet cleaners, street sweepers etc.

Australia.
noimmigration  
11 Jul 2008 /  #11
Australia

That called a working holiday, just like what australians come to do here. Working holidays are generally only for a few months, the british also cannot claim a glorious amount of benefits paid by the australian tax payer.
Barney  17 | 1624  
11 Jul 2008 /  #12
There is only one thing worse than an idiot...........someone who argues with one!

I dont mean you PD or osiol
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
11 Jul 2008 /  #13
They do this to their 11 year old Daughter, how could they? I dont know who is worse,the mother for putting the whole family through that or the father who,no doubt wracked with loss after his wifes death,still should have put his kids first before his own suffering.

Lets hope those 2 kids,and a 20 year old in that situation imo is still a kid,have some support over here in this awfull time for them.

Most shamefull thing is I suspect the little girl will now be blaming herself for this in the way kids tend to.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
11 Jul 2008 /  #14
this is such a sad way for people who went in search of a better life to end their story

RIP
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
11 Jul 2008 /  #15
No its a serious question,

No its not you are just being a fanny again.

The suicide rate in Scotland for males between 91 and 2004 was 50% higher than the rest of the UK.

Give me examples of mass immigration of unskilled british tilet cleaners, street sweepers etc.

In the 80's at every tube station in London there was a Scottish guy begging for money.
Germany was full of Scots doing anything they could to get some cash.

Get an education idiot.
osiol  55 | 3921  
11 Jul 2008 /  #16
That called a working holiday

Lots of them stayed there. I have a lot of distant family in Australia. Most started with very poorly paid jobs.
noimmigration  
11 Jul 2008 /  #17
In the 80's at every tube station in London there was a Scottish guy begging for money.
Germany was full of Scots doing anything they could to get some cash.

pathetic lies, The couple that hung themselves did so not out of shame. They killed themselves because they were WEAK
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
11 Jul 2008 /  #18
Rightly or wrongly they did it because they couldn't see any other way.
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
11 Jul 2008 /  #19
They killed themselves because they were WEAK

Will you please stop spewing shite noimmi.
Barney  17 | 1624  
11 Jul 2008 /  #20
flayme.com/troll/
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
11 Jul 2008 /  #21
Will you please stop spewing shite noimmi.

actually although i don't agree with much he says, he does have a certain point, people who kill themselves do so because they cannot see any other possible way out of the situation they are in. If you apply this to anything else in life, for example, you are struggling at work, the equivalent is quitting your job. To be honest to me that is being a quiter, being weak as you cannot deal with the situation in hand.

Just because these people have hung themselves and its all sad sad because they are dead, do you really not think there is an element of weakness there?? i mean not everybody when they get to a life crisis decides that the game is up. I mean look at the homeless or the people who lose their jobs, house, wife etc etc in the space of a few weeks. These people fight on where as the two in this story, with respect, did not fight on. So therefore there is an element of weakness.

I don't particularly mind what names you call me or what you throw my way, i've not just 'spouted s**t' i've made my point clear and i think in a mature way.
szkotja2007  27 | 1497  
11 Jul 2008 /  #22
i've not just 'spouted s**t' i've made my point clear and i think in a mature way

Lacks a bit of insight.
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
11 Jul 2008 /  #23
do you really not think there is an element of weakness there??

Would you call medal wining honest to god war hero s as weak? Not trying to be provocative but, how many ,say Falklands veterens have killed themselves. Its not always about any inherant "weakness" .
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
11 Jul 2008 /  #24
some people are so wet, the term troll is just used against people you disagree with, its a stupid 'internet' slang term which the sad people who tour all the forums out there use. Its like all these abbreviations. harden up you online wimp and stop posting your sorry little stabs at people, if you've got something to say about him, just do it.

Its easy to jump on a bandwagon when somebody says something you disagree with, therefore you can join forces with lots of others and rip into them. Fight your own battles and let PD and Wroclaw do their thing.

T

P.S. i know you were not calling me a troll and i woulnd't even care if you did :) I just can't stand the little picks that some people have at one another, just out and say it for god sake!!!

Would you call medal wining honest to god war hero s as weak? Not trying to be provocative but, how many ,say Falklands veterens have killed themselves. Its not always about any inherant "weakness" .

some people are better in certain situations, these war heroes from the Faulklands etc were in their element, they were trained to do what they did, they had been readied for that day from their early years. However you take a soldier out of the military and stick him in civi street and its not the same. They cannot deal with it and sometimes feel they have no clear path, so yes there is an element of weakness there too.

The comfort zone i would call it.
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
11 Jul 2008 /  #25
I don't particularly mind what names you call me or what you throw my way, i've not just 'spouted s**t' i've made my point clear and i think in a mature way.

I have never had reason to call you names. Am I missing something here.

We have spoken about suicide and all that goes with it in another thread.

My iq is actually 122 (mensa tested)

I would have thought that was low for a lawyer.
tornado2007  11 | 2270  
11 Jul 2008 /  #26
I have never had reason to call you names. Am I missing something here.

We have spoken about suicide and all that goes with it in another thread.

no no, sorry my mistake, i just wondered as you sometimes call noimmigration names whether or not you would turn on me as i have a similar but not the same opinion as he does.
Michal  - | 1865  
13 Jul 2008 /  #27
There might have been other reasons why they could not return to Poland. They might have been on the run for some reason. No normal person kills themselves over a shelf filling job at Tescos!
wildrover  98 | 4430  
13 Jul 2008 /  #28
They might have been on the run for some reason. No normal person kills themselves over a shelf filling job at Tescos!

And what would you know about normal people....?
Foreigner4  12 | 1768  
13 Jul 2008 /  #29
i can't judge these two as i've never been either of them but i have to wonder about what caused them to make this decision.

i don't think killing oneself is inherently wrong, i mean if it's one person's life then they can do whatever they want to with it, including ending it if they see fit. but they had someone who really really needed them and one can only guess how their deaths and how it happened will affect her and those she in turn affects. that's the sad part.
JustysiaS  13 | 2235  
13 Jul 2008 /  #30
i read that article and to be honest it made me really angry... poor kids, especially the little girl. that is not what you do when you struggle with money, especially when you've got kids. i'm sure that if they asked for help they would get it, either here in UK or in Poland. i don't know what else to say, just hope that the kids get loads of support and counselling.

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